UPDATE 7:15 PM PST:
Washington with 87.8% reporting at 7:00 PM PST - Obama 67.35% Clinton 31.4%
Nebraska with 99% reporting at 6:45 PM PST - Obama 68% Clinton 32%
Louisiana with 1578 0f 3,966 parishes or 38% reporting at 6:45 PM PST - Clinton 38% Obama 53% Edwards 4% (CNN calls for Obama)
We'll have a regular schedule of posts tonight Kirk upstairs, Thers at 8PM PST and of course Late Late Night Listening Pleasure. We'll keep today's vote scores updated in separate threads throughout the evening.
We've got caucuses in Washington and Nebraska, a primary in Louisianna and a convention in the Virgin Islands today. See top of post for what we know so far.
Big turnout reported in Washington and Nebraska - wow! From Washington, Northwest Progressive reports:
After convening my precinct's caucus nearly an hour ago, and screaming myself hoarse to the HUGE crowd of people gathered in my precinct, I think the appropriate word to describe turnout today is megagigantic-massive. I was not prepared for this. None of the organizers at our area were.
We ran out of chairs.
We ran out of sign in sheets (had to send someone to the copier for more).
We ran out of pens.
We ran out of tables.
We are out of everything here except for people.
And Goldy at HorsesAss says:
Our caucus location was simply overwhelmed, with every precinct running out of sign-in sheets. 49 people caucused in my precinct, more than twice what I saw in 2004, which had been by far the most crowded caucus I’d ever attended; the chart for calculating delegate apportionment only went up to 25, so we had to do the math to determine the results. It was messy and disorganized — we had to wait for the custodian to open up classrooms because the cafeteria was stuffed to over-flowing — and incorrect instructions were repeatedly delivered… but then democracy is messy, with or without the capital “D”.
And the AP reports from Nebraska:
OMAHA — Thousands of people statewide overflowed school gyms, sat in traffic and stood in groups on Saturday to be counted as part of Nebraska’s first Democratic presidential caucus.
In Douglas County, the state’s most populous county, an average of 1,000 people turned out at each of 15 caucus sites, said Eric Fought, spokesman for the state party.
Sarpy County had one caucus site for 28,000 registered Democrats, triggering traffic backups for miles and complaints from voters while changing the way officials conducted the caucus.
Law enforcement shut down Highway 370 and the intersection leading into the site — a school cafeteria — because the area was packed with cars.
The influx of people was so massive that volunteers began collecting preference cards for people who preferred Obama or Clinton, then allowing them to leave. Traditional caucus procedures allow for more interaction, with supporters standing on either side of a room trying to persuade the undecided and not-so-sure supporters of other candidates to join them.
My favorite tale of the day so far:
Seattle bakery Cupcake Royale is having a "Cupcake Caucus" to raise money for charity. Customers are casting votes by buying treats to support their favorite candidates. While Obama and Hillary cupcakes are flying off the shelves - nobody has requested a McCain cupcake. (my bold)
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Whoa. Two blowouts by Obama. I think having McCain as the presumptive nominee is making people think about who’s the better candidate in the general.
That’s priceless… ;-)
The Democrats are going to win in November.
“While Obama and Hillary cupcakes are flying off the shelves - nobody has requested a McCain cupcake. (my bold)”
That is good to hear.
Does it matter the candidate or does it have to be Obama? Can it be Clinton?
The RNC must be sh*tting bricks… We the People are speaking loud and clearly…! 8-)
This is such good news for Republicans.
Especially John McCain.
I hope blogs and both candidates realize that they now know the real opponent in November and make that old scanctimonious, sold and pandered-out, exhausted hypocrite and (sadly, due to his recent debate performaces) conscous and bald faced liar, their target.
I would much rather judge Obama and HRC on their ability to critique McCain and the GOP he represents, than to hear them sniping at each other.
I wouldn’t want a McCain cupcake either. Yuck.
I’m LOL trying to imagine what a McCain cupcake looks like.
Let me tell you something Obama. If you become our next president (we voted for you in the recent Oklahoma primary), you’d darn well better behave like a Democrat. Or you can count on being a one-termer.
Hillary is giving a very good speech on MSNBC. She doesn’t have Obama’s flair (who does?) but she’s bashing Bush big time.
no Late Late Nite?
Has anyone seen Virgin Island results - I can’t find them anywhere and they do not have a web site that I can find.
Per MSNBC exit polls, BHO leads HRC by “substantial margin.”
ps - I had my times wrong, updated to PST.
We will support Senator Clinton or Senator Obama for our next president. Whomever wins the nomination. We (my lady and I) think the winning ticket is Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama. ;0)
Why do I get the feeling that they work at a leisurely pace in the Virgin Islands? :)
Congrats Dood !
What’s in a McCain Cupcake ?
They also say Louisiana GOP race “too close to call”. McCain is really winning them over, eh? :)
Lord, my lady and I dislike George W. Bush. Good for HRC.
Maybe Hillary will settle for majority leader.
I’d be surprised if both Obama & Clinton are on the Dem ‘08 ticket … then again, I’ve been surprised a lot
this year …
You would think these polling stations would have more supplies available after it has been widely reported that voters are showing up in record numbers this election cycle.
Were there any David Schuster cupcakes or are they still being baked? Ha,ha.
Looks like the Democratic nomination may be leaving the shore with Hillary looking on on the banks.
New York Times shows Virgin Islands results are not available.
I blame Richard Branson.
Do you really want to know…? ;-)
so *here* y’all are - nobody ever tells me anything…
I took the great liberty of channeling you and Lahoma in the previous “Rocking the Vote” thread. People said I did okay… I felt safe doing that because our house agrees with your house…
Aww, Teddy, he resides in the British Virgin Isles…! 8-P
I would imagine that a main ingredient is ‘batsh*t’ … *g*
Jesus Christe! The people are finally pissed!
Hillary has been on MSNBC giving this speech for quite a while. Uninterupted. No commercials. Is that typical for a Saturday night or is this some payment for the schuster comment?
She just finished.
To early to call in LA… But, Hill is up 42% to 37%…
I’m getting this sneaking suspicion that Hillary might take Maine tomorrow. Ugh!!!! So I’m thinking I may have to go to Plan B (Plan A was to vote for Kucinich and then vote ‘uncommitted’ as my 2nd vote): vote for Obama.
I know there are Hillary supporters here on FDL, but I just can’t wrap my brain around her at all. I feel like we’re being duped by she and Bill and it’s not sitting right with me.
Not the Clenis? I thought the Clenis was responsible for everything…
Doc Murphy’s upstairs and he hit another one outta da park !!!
I blame Richard Branson.
I blame Madonna.
CNN is saying Obama is ahead.
Virgin Airways, Virgin Records, Virgin Islands….
… Virgin Mother …
Need FDL delegation to go down there and see what’s up. I volunteer to make the sacrifice.
MSNBC was saying Hill was ahead…
I thought she sounded like she would take a VP spot.
I guess it would be rude to say anything about the Clenis if a Virgin is in the room…. [ducking, running out of the room, covering her head…]
Updated above with first LA results
Well, as they’ve always said, it’s a difference of opinion polls that makes a horse race!
God. Not to be contemplated.
Teddy! I’m roaring here … VI and Branson .. bravo!
MSNBC: 41% Hill, 38% Obama with 0% reporting…
Yes, I can confirm that Marion did a great job channeling, but, we didn’t get our fried fish and cocoa.
CNN website is saying Hillary is ahead 41 - 38 % but their TV chanel is saying that Obama is ahead …
Marion- I left you my report re: GA downstairs on the earlier election thread.
I support Hillary cuz she’s smart and centered. She is far more likely to prosecute war crimes than Obama in my opinion. This is not a time to reach across the aisle.
CNN: BO,40% HC, 39%
I’ll go check…
Cupcakes?!?
That is so sexist! You know…”Hey, cupcake. How you doin?”
Hillary’s gonna demand that bakery get audited.
(Sorry, but demanding Shuster get fired after all they’ve done to make amends already, is so obviously a move to steal the spotlight as much as possible from today’s Obama blowouts. Yes, he deserved punishment, but this is getting ridiculous.)
There are still only 12 of 3,966 parishes in LA reporting - hence the confusion.
Hillary’s calculated Rovian swiftboating of Shuster is backfiring, just as predicted.
TPM Headlines:
-Hillary Clinton To NBC: Shuster Must Be Fired
-Obama Wins Nebraska (pushing 70%)
-Obama Winning Big in Washington State (CNN just called it)
Where was Hillary when Shuster was fighting every day to bring the Plame story to light?
Where was Hillary when Shuster was fighting every day to expose the crimes of Rove & Cheney?
Hillary picked the wrong guy to unload on.
From FleetAdmiralJ’s diary at the Orangerie, here’s how the USVI delegates will be apportioned.
Absolutely. That stupid bakery should have been baking studmuffins….
Politico has 41 (HC) to 38 (BO) in La. 1% reporting.
When/where did she say that Schuster must be fired? I’m turning into Missouri on this. SHOW ME.
And the fact that the exit polls are indicating an Obama win , but, the actual numbers so far aren’t bearing it out…!
Heh, they saw ‘em in half…! ;-)
Here is the Louisiana site for results: http://www400.sos.louisiana.go.....dta=020908
McCain in Norfolk today, on picking a running mate:
Sounds like Jeb! to me.
Just updated - refresh for latest from LA, etc
This is the excerpt from her letter folks are pointing to and saying she wants him fired:
Full letter here
http://tpmelectioncentral.talk.....d_shus.php
OK, she didn’t use the word, but that seems to be a direct implication, doesn’t it?
He can’t do it, can he, but it really sounds like W to me… [shudders with horror]
Hillary relied on Robo calling heavily here in WA.
I hung up on three in one day.
Maria Can’twell, Ex Governor Locke and Hillary herself on the last one.
Everything I have seen so far puts it 3 to 1 Obama, I will have to wait for the final count.
Hey good evening pups -
I’ve been lurking around, watching the Pat Buchannan’s head explode and just soaking in the schadenfreude.
So what do you say, when we have the WH and total and unobstructionable control of Congress, what do you say we impeach a couple of Supreme Court Justices?
Not necessarily - in the context of the next sentence.
Same in Mass.
Yup.
It might have been more appropriate if Chelsea had written a letter to Schuster herself. She’s a woman not a child.
Teddy:
That’s why I’m guessing she’s more into the pattern than the pimp.
I wonder if David Shuster is Hillary’s Sister Souljah. She knows — or her people know — how beloved he is in the blogosphere for being the only competent TradMed journalist on the Plame beat. By coming down so hard on him, is she showing the Democratic party she doesn’t care about what we think?
Anyway, sound off to MSNBC about Shuster here: letters@msnbc.com
Oh, yes, and not just a couple. Four!
HC=37% to OB=49% - 77 precincts reporting. Per Louisiana site
I support Hillary cuz she’s smart and centered. She is far more likely to prosecute war crimes than Obama in my opinion. This is not a time to reach across the aisle.
I respect your opinion, but the Clintons’ DLC record is quite clear. She even co-sponsored a flag-burning bill with a wingut Rethug Senator. On this particular issue (working with Republicans), there is no clear difference between them.
No. And I think Josh Marshall is an Obama supporter. Nothing wrong with that, just that the blogs need to be careful too. I don’t want to start seeing in blogs what we’ve seen in the past media.
Just wanted to say to you that I appreciate how you’ve handled things around here, since I know you’ve been a Hillary backer all along. As things continue to heat up, it’s nice that FDL, both the posters and many commenters have kept it a nice place to hang.
Thanks, from an Obamatron!
HC=36% and OB=51% - 150 precincts reporting in LA
She co-sponsored that bill so that there wouldn’t be a flag burning AMENDMENT.
Lou Hou, that is not what I remember from the time. Maybe later we could look at this.
Thanks. I think we’re mostly all about getting the freaking republicans out of business.
Sister Souljah? Or Dan Rather?
With the caveat that I think that was an absolutely asinine comment, however it happened to burst out there like a turd in a punchbowl, I’m seeing a disturbing assault–not on the media in general, but on select targeted people. Maybe I’m over-reacting?
But MSNBC/NBC did no service to David Shuster…or their viewers…taking a respected journalist and turning him into an infotainment gasbag.
Huckabee has taken the lead in Louisiana!
BO=54 HC=34 270 precincts reporting in LA
Loo Hoo, that interpretation is just a bit too “meta” for me. If you are saying that she did something so that it wouldn’t be done, then the word “triangulation” does come to mind.
BO=52 to HC=38 with 10% reporting in LA
Here’s this, assuming you respect Matt Stoller.
10% of precincts reporting (I don’t know pop %)
Well that’s not a good reason to sponsor a horrible bill, is it? So if the Rethugs propose an anti-gay amendment, we should start working with Republicans to pass anti-gay bills?
The point is she crossed the aisle to work with Republicans, which you said you’re against. I’m saying these two don’t differ that much in that one respect.
Hmmm… We’d be hurting if they closed the road next to my precinct locale, also a school cafeteria…
HRC is my least favorit candidate of the Democratic big three, none of whom are saviors, but any could win an election, so any of them so OK with me.
Too bad if Shuster gets the axe.
However, corporate media discourse is toxic and destructive and potent force against grown-up poliitcal discssion in country. I think it has cost us elections. So his comment, by itself and taken alone, was not worth firing over, but it did not occur in a vacuum. So…. too bad. He will have to find another job. Cripe,s I have had to find another job through no fault of my own, so I don’t feel sorry for the guy.
Now, important to follow through with Matthews, Dowd, OReilly and the whole sick and useless crew.
Lou Hou. I didn’t read the Stoller bit. I just remember reading about this in the NYT when it happened, and thought at the time that she was wading into all the red meat true-Patriot junk for purposes of positioning herself for a future run for the presidency. Frankly it was a turning point in my respect for her. But, I might be wrong on what went down.
It’s very like Hillary’s current argument that DOMA was signed to forestall a federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution. Bill signed DOMA to triangulate his way to victory in 1996.
Um, this was about the same time that the Patriot Act was passed. People were freaked out. I just felt like it was a good move to compromise on this. A law, not an amendment. Has anyone ever been imprisoned since this law for burning a flag?
In Louisiana?
updated at 6:45 PST … refresh?
I couldn’t agree more. The net loves David. He is one of the best and has really exposed a lot of Bush corruption; the Libby case, the attorney scandal, etc. He said he did something tacty and apoligized. I don’t think he should have even been suspended. Matthews has done far worse.
Well, that’s partly the point. There hasn’t exactly been an epidemic of flag-burning before or after her exciting law.
I believe in freedom of expression. Who ever got hurt from displaying a flag upside down, or displaying it on a teeshirt. It set up the whole government ueber alles meme.
Truer words were rarely, if ever, spoken. Huzzah!
Hillary is using the Schuster error to step on Obama’s victories today. I wonder if the gasbags will discuss both tomorrow?
Cripes, if they made that illegal they’d have to round up the entire membership of the Young Republicans, wouldn’t they?
Was Schuster fired or suspended for some time?
It is the complete and utter toxicity of the TradMed Village that makes singling out Shuster a little much. Where were her calls for Matthews’ resignation, or Dowd’s, or Noonan’s, or Quinn’s?
I agree. A flag is a symbol and nothing more. But remember when the Americans raised the American flag rather than the Iraqi flag in Baghdad?
Word has it that the WGA East is ready to approve the proposed deal and end the strike forthwith. Here’s a taste:
We still await news from the left coast. Their meeting is beginning now.
It ain’t over yet, but it’s looking good.
So it’s OK for Clinton to work with Republicans but not Obama?
Hey the media has loads of hit persons who use the title “journalist”.
The networks have the balls to have campaign advisers as commentators. That is way over the line.
Updated - latest results from LA above