All this brings me great sorrow. It is so very unnecessary.
Why are we so divided? Why are we so choked with venom, with… hatred? As a movement, we need to keep our eyes on the higher truth, on the deeper purpose behind this acrimonious bickering. We need to put all selfishness, all negativity, all rancor behind us. We — or, more specifically, you — need to stop with the yelling, stop with the name-calling, stop with the slander, and acknowledge and realize the truth, accept the facts, and move forward so together we can achieve victory in November.
You need to admit that your favorite candidate sucks.
I fully realize that this may be a very hard thing for you to do. I understand. After all, it is quite clear that the chief reason you support your favorite candidate is because of your own personal failings and inadequacies.
I am not unsympathetic. There are clearly no rational reasons to support your favorite candidate, so it is only logical to rummage in the danker, smellier corners of your soul for the origins of your bizarre and inexplicable preference of a presidential candidate who sucks. Please be assured however that I do not judge you harshly for the fact that you surely like to molest squirrels while high on crack cocaine. This is likely only the melancholy if inevitable consequence of your upbringing in a family of dysfunctional, alcoholic leprechauns. With therapy, you may heal. Perhaps.
Or maybe you support your favorite candidate, who sucks, merely because you are very young. I admire your enthusiasm. I do. Come here while I give you an affectionate pat on the head and congratulate you on your puppy-like if unreflective capering and frolicking. It is to your credit that you are too wide-eyed, naïve, and childish to comprehend how badly you have been deceived by the empty promises of your favorite candidate. Who, I must soberly inform you, sucks. Now scamper off and do as you are told by your betters.
On the other hand, it is not inconceivable that you have taken a shine to your sucky favorite candidate because you are a hideous decrepit fossil whose mummified soul is withered with jealous resentment towards the hope for a better future embodied in the candidate you fail to endorse. You may feel that you possess some wisdom born of experience, some knowledge of how politics and "the real world" operate: lamentably, so would say many another pudding-like corpse, were it able to converse. Please roll your wheelchairs aside and let the young and unwrinkled lead: for, you see, your favorite candidate… sucks.
How can one possibly avoid concluding that you are consumed with identity politics, or at least the politics of identity? That sucks, as do you. Your continued support of your favorite candidate, who sucks, will ensure that the Party splits, that we lose the election, that cats and dogs will live together, that sexism and racism will endure forever, and that American Cheese – the Cheese of Patriotism – will no longer be available in portions individually and lovingly wrapped in plastic. Thanks a lot, asshole.
Because, after all, what is crucial is that we find exactly the right person in order to shape our movement. What would be stupid (ha!) would be to strive to build a movement that might instead influence our leaders. What on earth could possibly the danger in placing all of our eggs of hopes and dreams for a better life for ourselves and our kids in the basket of a single American Politician? Whenever has one of those people failed us? My favorite candidate, clearly, may be safely trusted to carry that basket into a Better Tomorrow. Your favorite candidate, who sucks, will likely drop the basket, break the eggs, and then fuck the shells.
Please comprehend, if you are able, that I am only informing you of my superior judgment in these areas for your own good. After all, were you as capable as I am of perceiving the inner truth of what it means to be a Liberal and a Democrat, you would not be so deluded as to support your favorite candidate. Who sucks. I do not expect you to be grateful — but that is as may be. My lonely contemplation of my perspicacity is reward enough.
By the way, if you choose to take issue with my comments about how your favorite candidate sucks, I welcome such debate. But please — do not be impolite.




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crap?
Ther!
Is that the new zed?
I know mine does, what does does yours?
:)
Hey Thers…
My candidate sucks worse than your candidate.
So there.
I know mine does, but what does yours?
There. That’s what I tried to type.
Thers!
My gawd what a speech!
Hi all.
Sorry Peterr, but I think I have proven that it is your favorite candidate who sucks. Conclusively.
What if my favorite candidate isn’t in the race…? *g*
my candidate sucks – crap
lol. i was waiting to read that if i hated all the candidates it must be a bad case of projection.. or something.
I’m not divided.
heh – I’m a trend-setter, not a trend follower.
Actually, just sayin’ hi to Thers, whose posts started as crap-o-the-week, if I recall correctly.
Not in the race? That SUCKS!
LOL!
Suz!
Thers!
Bonne Soir, Ma Cheri! How’s your back?
Yes, Rachel has it right, the similarities between GWB’s campaign and Barack’s. That is the one thing that really bothers me.
Nooooooooo….Rachel Maddow is saying Obama is like W.
What if my favorite candidate isn’t in the race…? *g*
Oh, that candidate sucked.
Oh yeah? Why I oughtta . . .
OTOH, maybe I oughtn’t. I’ve got to work tomorrow, and that would likely weigh on my conscience — not a good thing for someone in my line of work.
*g*
Nice post.
It feels like I am being suckered again.
If you guys shoving and pushing this guy down our throats (I am not against Obama, just hesitant) turns out to be the same kind of flame out as Kerry, the USA is forever changed.
There is no way you can convince me you KNOW him.
I’ll be around, but I am not convinced.
forked still
It sure does… Nader! *ducking*
Oh please. That’s simply ridiculous.
WTF????????????
My gawd what a speech!
yup. Can you imagine hearing the President of The United States of America, speaking like that, directly to the American people, every few days, or weekly; whatever…
I’m more than willing to take a flyer on this guy – even though he sucks.
That SUCKS!
Then the race sucks.
No, it’s not.
Running to the center and appealing to the other party’s voters by speaking in moderate terms. It bothers me, but I can understand why he does it.
yeap
Where is the speech on the web – anyone?
But his theme song has been Sign, Sealed, Delivered not the song that started the talk about the similarities. Doesn’t matter because my candidate blows monkey chunks.
If he wins the general and has long coat tails we might see some accountability for the Bush debacle and and a re do of all the terra related nonsense.
Can we can the department of homeland security?
All this stuff could be solved if Hillary would just kindly drop out now. Seriously. If you look at the charts of the polls and now results of the various contests so far it’s stunning. Why would she want to pull some tricks to stop this? Isn’t it obvious most Democrats want Obama once they get to see the two head-to-head?
Maybe Hillary could run under the CT for Lieberman Party.
I agree with that, ‘cept I do like the fact that the Dem turnout is blowing away the Repug’s turnout…!
My hands are clean. Of the 2 still standing (Ds)for Prez I have no favorite.
On the other hand, if you are talking about congressional races, I have my favorites.
Chief among these, Donna Edwards to clean Al Wynn’s clock.
Let me get this straight…you just spent a WHOLE posting telling me how both ME and my candidate SUCKS and you want USE not to be impolite!?!? I have seen examples of hutzpa before but………….
I tried to eat the rich but they’re tough and stringy. I guess you could stew them for a few hours, but there’s really not a whole lot of taste there.
I live in a divided household, so I guess that means that both of our candidates suck, but even my Hillary-loving Bride declared, “He’s won”, after hearing that speech.
It will be.
huh pushing? shoving? a little much considering all the candidates suck (ala the theme of the thread)
My candidate is rubber and yours is glue! or should it be the other way around? Whatever… My candidate is Democratic, other than that it makes little difference this year.
I hope Huckabee sweeps tonight. Looks like he has a good chance to do so as of right now. Nice if McCain won the nomination of a seriously split and unhappy party.
So far, whenever I worry about inter-Democratic bickering, the GOP manages to out-trainwreck us. I hope that trend continues.
I really do not care between HRC and Obama. I don’t care if there is brokered convention. I don’t care if the superdelegates decide. I don’t care whether some psychic resurrects fat old farts smoking ceegars and spitting tobacky into spitoons from 1900 to decide it. Makes no difference. We all know the presidential nomination process, the state primaries, is a broken system that often seems run as much by state tourism boards as anything else. So why get too wrapped up in it? It will do what it will do, and I have had my shot in my states primary, and I will hope for the best.
In my opinion, both Obama and HRC are cautious centrists who have not shown much leadership in the Senate. My man, Edwards had hs own issues. Need to stop looking at the presidential candidates as saviors and super heroes or heroines who will rescue us and our sick political system. They are potentially useful political tools to get the ball rolling on making big political changes required to keep this country a functioning representative democracy that operates under the rule of law. That is the real threat, and even a super hero/heroin president cannot fix that alone.
Getting a veto- and filibuster- proof congress with more and much much better Democrats is more important. That is my conviction. Either Obama or HRC OK for nomination.
If not HRC or Obama, it will be McCain (or whatever ideologue fossil crawls out of the GOP tar pits).
Ahem.
I can take you dissing my candidate, who sucks.
I can take you trashing my political hopes and dreams, which also suck.
But when you go trashing my dairy products, talking about “portions individually and lovingly wrapped in plastic”, that’s where I’ve got to draw the line.
Real cheese comes in blocks. Real cheese must be lovingly sliced, not unwrapped. There’s a special circle of hell waiting for the inventor of “processed cheese food product.”
As that great preacher once said, “Blessed are the Cheesemakers . . .”
Totally OT but terribly cool: NASA World Wind
Matter of fact, they all suck
(with apologies to Pink Floyd)
i meant to type “super hero/heroinE president”
Let me get this straight…you just spent a WHOLE posting telling me how both ME and my candidate SUCKS and you want USE not to be impolite!?!? I have seen examples of hutzpa before but………….
Chutzpah. With a “c.”
Your candidate sucks.
With teeth.
it was my understanding the entire post was tongue in cheek
OK thanks, you guys must have cable. Sometime, maybe, my time will come…..
Spellcheck sucks too.
It might show up on MSNBC momentarily…
Oh man. Did you catch the speech he just gave? There were a lot of specifics and they were mostly quite Liberal. Did you notice the earlier comments of people claiming he’s taking Edwards positions now? How about the plan to create a Wikipedia-type vehicle, streaming video, and other innovative ideas to make government more transparent than ever before? Have you looked at the Issues page of his Web site? There’s some great stuff in there, in addition to some bland stuff, and it’s all quite detailed.
There’s hardly anything in there Shrub would support.
He closes with Shrub’s old theme song after that–why I don’t konw.
it was my understanding the entire post was tongue in cheek
with bite.
What awaits cheese-in-a-jar?
And don’t you have a book to finish? BTW, looks like the slot will be Sunday mornings…
WHAT!?!?!
Humor, at the Lake?
Sarcasm, at the Lake?
Parody, at the Lake?
Who could have anticipated . . .
Absoluely. Keep all official State Foods, flowers, Songs, Themeparks, and Birds and Critters out of it, otherwise there will be poltical blood spilt and vicious feuds that poison our great great grand kids.
And dissing some state’s cheese… that is.. I can’t find words. That is just monstrous. Next people will go after the regional BBQ and chili and pie, and… unthinkable.
That would seriously suck. Politely speaking.
Ouch!
Obama’s speech
Yucca Mountain.
Why on earth would the Dems..either one…be afraid of going “toe to toe” with the most hated and unpopular candidate (in his own party no less), who is a terrible debater to boot….
What BS.
Yawn.
Thanks – did you get my Eshu comment – in terms of the toobz stuff – somewhere on another post?
I think it will.
But that doesn’t mean some of us don’t need to put the knives away…
Should of just stuck with Stevie Wonder
Never apolgize!
Sucking sucks.
Bite your tongue!
OK, good, keep me honest! (this is more fun…..)
Here, effing here!
What sucks is that the amounts these candidates have to raise and spend every few days would win us five more house seats, every two weeks, two more senate seats. That’s what sucks!
All this to watch a barely diginified political version of American Idol…
Well, yes. Everything except the cheese part.
There’s a special circle of hell waiting for the inventor of “processed cheese food product.”
Ahh, but Peterr, you’re missing the inherent beauty and genius of “processed cheese food products”.
Look at the ingredients – there are enough preservatives in there that – I figure – if you eat enough every day, “you’ll never die, and you’ll never grow old”
h/t Wilford Brimley (I think)
Yes…and I responded, saying Eshu had nothing to do with it. And also said I blame your institution. And I also asked if you got Jane’s email…
okay well let’s just have it out now:
BBQ sauce:
Sweet diabetes inducing stuff from the south; even worse with the mustard or the vinegar stuff that has just the right kick?
Well, I think that depends on what you’re sucking on.
It may not be a zero sum game, i.e. getting people in the habit of giving for a political candidate they believe in primes the pump – both for more money later, and for voting.
Wait…aren’t we talking about American Idol? Oh…wrong blog.
If you want to talk cheese, you’ve got to find yourself a good cheese shop.
You won’t need to be embalmed either.
I try not to eat anything I can’t pronounce. Except maybe haricots verts.
You’ll also never go to the bathroom … *g*
cheese?
Leonard Pierce at Sadly No has been hilarious with his CPAC series — the “American Milk Solids” cover is inspired.
My place would blame me (I use outlook, non-authorized). No to the new email, but it may be over Ohio :-)
There goes another fucking moniter!
I am total lets make peace person this year. Either Obama or HRC fine.
Except sorry about the heroin president typoe. Fox will get a hold of that… I can see the ticker now: LEFTY BLOGGERS WANT HEROIN PRESIDENCY!!!
That will be right under a picture of John McCain with (D-AZ underneath).
Wonder if there is a drug problem at Fox?
Not up yet, but give it an hour and search Google Video.
Great minds . . . *g*
That sucky suck suck suck candidate of mine won the Virgin island with 905 of the vote.
You’ll also never go to the bathroom … *g*
ok – I give – that one cracked me up….
BTW, it’s -8 F air temp in Minneapolis right now, not factoring in the wind chill factor. And that wind is howling right now…
My typing sucks 90%
sucks
Natch … they appear to have no problems getting enough …
Hey Biodun, I think I figured it out!! Ta Dah!!!! In your email you have lots of other web links, and my junk mail program takes umbrage at that, and won’t let me send it back out (supposed to stop viruses I think). So next time, I would hit respond but will copy and paste on a new one.
Hi Thers. Good evening dear friends.
Thanks!
Sorry LoundounLib nailed it here
Frank Rick thought Hillary’s Town Hallmark sucked royally. Ya wanna talk Shrub tendencies!?! Now this blows:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02…..ref=slogin
Absolutely brutal review, and very fair and accurate I might add.
hey tex
Hot off the YouTubes: Obama’s speech
All we have is some runny Camembert.
Uh oh…
snack is ready
That really sucks.
According to MSNBC 50% of Obama supporters polled would vote for Clinton but only 1/3 of Clinton supporters polled would vote for Obama! Wow! That will change.
Hi Betsy! Fireworks at Chinatown in half an hour.
Let’s hope so, Pete!
on Greystone? Or up on Lamar?
I’ve decided to rip off this sucky thread and start a new business selling T-shirts that say “Your Candidate Sucks.” It’d never go out of style. I expect to make enough dough to buy a presidency for myself someday.
Hilarious Thers.
If they’re not doing drugs, they should bloody well start.
I lived there in the very late 60’s, and I remember the cold…gawd…When I was in my hippiedom we used to go to Dinkytown to hang…I lived on the corner of Franklin and Hennepin for awhile..
It was about 78 here today…my condolences.
Yeppers! The Weather Channel here in St. Paul is showing the wind at 29 mph (gusts to 38) and the windchill at -31.
Even the snow thinks its too friggin’ cold!
Actually, it’s not unexpected and it might actually be a good sign.
In order to end the strike on Monday they would have to lift the strike before the membership votes on the deal. If the membership does approve the deal everyone could be back to work on Wednesday.
Lamar.
If you go, have fun!
well, harrumph! my favorite candidate gave a very sucky speech tonight…! and yes, I too suck…
Mi-Tee fine crap you got there, Thers…
Want me to come get you?
I just read a music review of a band called MJO, where the writer mentioned that one of the band members was wearing a shirt that said, “Your Favorite Band Sucks.”
Then the writer said, “MJO is my favorite band.” Nothing else.
Ouch. Grade-A snark there.
Got to go, everyone.
But even if your candidate sucks, I still wish you a good night.
Thanks for the speech link. Boy what an amazing speech. He has humor too (calling Cheney the black sheep of his family) OMG – now he is onto triangulating. Wow. This is his most brilliant speech ever.
I’ll concede that Obama sucks. I feel really sorry for his wife and daughters having to live under his thumb.
YES! I will call you.
So, my candidate, who is not in the race, sucks. Your candidate not only sucks, but really blows as well. Your candidate has that in common with certain types of vacuum cleaners. Now, a vacuum cleaner that really sucks is a tool that can be put to good use, in the right circumstances. Can we say the same of your candidate, who undoubtedly really, really sucks?
g’nite peterr
G’ntie Peterr. It all sucks. But I’m not going to let it get me down.
Well, I’ll see yer -0, Biodun, and raise, er, lower you 10…it’s -10 in fridgery Fargo… wind’s a’blowin’ and we’re lookin’ at 22 below real temp and -50 wind chill by morning. It’s either a three-dog-night or we’ll keep warm on the wave of fire coming from Clinton hq when they read Rich’s column.
You gotta be kidding. Compare living with Obama to living with Bill Clinton.
I like how he said that being related to Cheney is embarrassing because when you find out you’re related to somebody famous, you wish they were cool.
Richmond, did you see my YouTube link at #106?
Speaking of Minneapolis…
This most definitely does not suck:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=12qBoy2rhVw
but I won’t vote for you as per my demographic that would never be happy with your candidacy
Darn, looks like Huckabee won’t sweep. Too bad. Look at Paul in the northwest GOP though!
LA
GOP (88% reporting)
Huckabee 44%
McCain 42%
Paul 5%
Romney 6%
WA
GOP (78% reporting)
Huckabee 24%
McCain 25%
Paul 21%
Romney 16%
Airportcat- have you gotten the kitty vote on this yet? ;)
I did – thanks a zillion. I was so curious about it I opened it up and started watching. I gave a general thanks, but should have singled you. Many thanks.
(We’re continuing the updates in the post below – folks can check in there when they want details)
great post Thers. (It totally sucked.)
I mean I hope it sucks the wind from the sails of all of the blowhards pimping for their candidate.
(Sorry, poor choice of words…)
I’ve noticed two things trolling around the blogs the last few days:
dems very contentious about WHICH dem will win in November and
repubs ready to concede and blame McCain for not being “expletive” enough.
we all dislike “poor losers” – poor winners we should not be.
Yes. Frank Rich. I believes he’s on our side.
Oh wait… He wrote scathing reviews of Gore and Kerry. Never mind.
Yup. He also said, “it is never OK to torture. I will close guantanamo. I will restore Habeas Corpus.” Jeez someone is really saying this. Beyond belief. Even JFK wasn’t this good in his oratory.
11-0, that the vacuum cleaner (the Hoover) really sucks, and 12-0 that the shop vac (the Ridgid) really really sucks loudly and blows as well. Somebody voted twice on the Ridgid, haven’t figured out yet who it was.
It’s not that cold here, but there are 38 knot gusts in the terminal forecasts for tomorrow afternoon:
KHPN 100317Z 100324 VRB04KT 1SM BR SCT010 OVC025
TEMPO 0305 1/2SM -SHRA FG OVC004
FM2000 28028G38KT P6SM BKN060
Garsh, Richmond, wasn’t looking for that *g* Just glad you got to see it. My work here is done. Good night all!
Thanks kindly as always, my friend.
Night Loudoun!
Yeah. That would suck.
I never believed in my life time I would hear someone say these sorts of things.
i’m sorta afraid to ask this question… but it’s been on my mind for a couple of days, and it’s saturday night, so maybe you-all will let me get away with it….
part A: when was the last time that a politician won national office and governed anything like the campaign promised?
like Carville on the head of a crawfish
Yep.
Thanks for not being shy with it.
yes. i know.
my question sucks.
That’s understandable. Because I suck.
it would suck more if we lose.
And My Yahoo is really pissed that your program is calling my websites junk…and demands an apology…
*g*
AirportCat! I had no idea there were so many kitty votes in your household! Great to see you/ hear from you. xxoo VG
Noron sucks.
Obama just swept 4 states by large margins, and she’s saying…why can’t Dems make up their minds as to which sucky candidate they want???? Two seconds after Maddow pointed out that Dem turnout was 73% higher than the sucky Puke candidates.
Terrific post this morn…
I know this SUCKS but I just DUGG this suckey post…
Me either, frankly.
part B: so why is every little thing anyone associated with one of major candidates says more important than what happened last week on fisa, on torture, on who gets to say what the law of the land is?
but campaigns suck and governing sucks, so it’s a wash
I’m so drunk, i just don’t care. I like my candidate because…well…because
It is minus 12F here, blowing (not sucking) 55, gusting 80 right now. It has been friggin’ cold here since January 30. Tuesday, the night of our caucuses, it was anywhere from zero to minus 60F in places that drew 25 times the numbers some predicted. We ALL got a good glow from the turnout, even if some people thought one or the other of the candidates suck.
yeah and so do your shirts :) Actually the shirt idea is excellent
With a mouth full of metal next to a very powerful magnet…
[In Blackadder voice]
ok – my DVR is backed up a little – but it seems to me that there’s a sea change at MSNBC – Rachel seems to be the authoritative voice, and *then* the others (including Pat Buchanan) join in to discuss.
Client calls at 11:30 on Sat night – geez – I thought I was away from that when I got out of family law… *s*
that sucks.
That’s called the Wedge neighborhood now, full of yuppies…and grunge folks, and an artsy crowd pretending to be in NYC south of 14th Street, wearing nightcrawler black…all te time.
According to MSNBC 50% of Obama supporters polled would vote for Clinton but only 1/3 of Clinton supporters polled would vote for Obama! Wow! That will change.
No. First of all that was only in Louisiana. Secondly, the question was about satisfaction, not whether they would vote for the candidate.
aww sucks for you
Hey ET.
It was pretty cold here too, I had to put a sweater on for a while.
Nor I – except after the Wall fell.
Then I did expect to something like this.
From the Stazi.
It can happen here – and it has.
(BTW, for all partsians of teh sucky Sens – this is not sucker-specific. Hosers.)
That figures.
And, AirportCat, are you still in sucky Texas?
sure, that sucks.
but trying to ruin everyone’s fun here?
that really sucks.
Noron sucks. She’s pretty, but she sucks.
part B: so why is every little thing anyone associated with one of major candidates says more important than what happened last week on fisa, on torture, on who gets to say what the law of the land is?
—
My opinion, because horse races are fun, even if they are between egotistical horses’ asses (tip of that hat more toward GOP there, but we might find out it applies to our folks too -though I hope not),
and
what happened last week on fisa, on torture, on who gets to say what the law of the land is
REALLY sucks, and is depressing to think about (especially with dweebs like Pelosi and Reid in charge, or pretending to be in charge)
Three words: Supreme Court Judges.
Everything sucks except my vacuum cleaner.
Do you not love how that suckbutt Pat Buchanan then said it was black voters that would not vote for Hillary?
I bet that this will become a talking point. Any takers?
I think Jimmy Carter campaigned as an honest down to earth guy with moral fiber – and governed that way. I actually campaigned for Eisenhower (tiny kid then) and I think he did the same. I think JFK spoke about the future and being more, and giving back to our country. We reached the moon, many of us went to Peace Corps in his era. So, yes, it can be done.
Is she free tonight?
Yeah, let’s impeach a few of those bastards and then appoint a bunch more.
Plus, as I noted earlier, Obama is bringing in an awful lot of new voters, and pulling lots of independents and quite a few Republicans. And, there are quite a few of the later two who would not vote for Hillary.
Hey I love your handle, since I used to live in airports when I was traveling nonstop…
Noron sucks. She’s pretty, but she sucks.
Her peripheral vision, however, is other-worldly.
do you think any of the current batch of candidates is doing it?
Noron just said Kumbaya…and somehow it didn’t come out right…
thanks, nahant – i suck at remembering
Change and Hope.
Do you believe? Barack’s basically becoming a candidate I’ve been waiting for for years. I’ve been hearing people complain about corrupt politics my entire adult life, yet they keep electing the same goddamn people year after year saying those people “know how Washington works.”
I really like that Barack hasn’t played the games in DeeCee for years. He’s grounded. They were still paying off student loans just a few years ago even. Considering where he’s come, and where he is now in such a short period of time, I tend to believe him when he says he can get some big changes made to the system.
Oh yea the BigMoney will fight back hard with all they got, but Barack’s got the right attitude, and obviously he knows how to accomplish things, otherwise he wouldn’t be where he is now.
That’s my take on it anyway…
sucking is usually not free – i believe a dinner and a movie is required up front
You just made me spit all over my laptop.
Hugs Prairie! Keep warm.
Part of the reason that progressives remain divided is because we have such diverse interests. Conservatives are united by fear. Whether they fear losing their power position, or scary dark-skinned people, or poor people, or people with different religious beliefs, the conservatives are terrified, and that gives them a common drive, if not always a common direction. Progressives aren’t afraid. We have interests that go in many directions.
And right now we don’t have very good leadership. Oh, our campaign leaders may be quite good, but progressives as a whole, well – can we look to Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi for progressive leadership? Not hardly. Conservatives seem quite willing to line up behind the Coke Monkey in the White House and his Evil Handler – who do we line up behind?
Still, I’m hopeful that the conservatives own divisions, as well as the long-awaited comeuppance for thirty years of compassionless self-centered policies will finally catch up with them this year. And I’m hopeful that whatever Democrat is elected president will have the ability to offer the kind of leadership that progressives are hungry for.
Well none are president yet. And, the problem for Congress, and really bringing change there is that the leaders we have in place now in both houses are milk toast. So, even the progressives can’t do anything but sit on their hands. I think someone like Obama would shame them into action, and he would speak so well in public, that the population at large would shame them into doing something. And, I LOVE his open government idea with having negotiations on C-Span.
Baaad Doc… BWaaahaaaahaa. On the other hand, welcome to the tiny, single, hetero-male contingent here at FDL.
We may be small (in NUMBERS, goddammit), but we are here, nonetheless.
SUZ LOL
Hmmm – am I reading this the right way?
Now I get it: Suck is the topic of this thread. duh. I’m slow sometimes…
I gotta think of something that sucks…
I’m wearing insulated boots, long johns, carrhart jeans with flannel lining, a flannel shirt with quilted lining, a down vest and a down coat. Oh, yeah – a Norweigan ski hat, and those funky wool gloves with no finger tips, so I can type.
I’m out in my shop, where the huge Charmaster woodstove is barely keeping it at 50 degress.
Yeah, Pat was pushing that idea hard. Rachel kept him in line, though. Thank goodness for Rachel.
innocent look
ok.
i guess i just think it sucks worse to ignore it.
and we seem to be doing that… and i don’t know why. is caring about that stuff on hold until after november?
i’d just like to know, because for 2 days i’ve keep coming back here looking for the kind of analysis and deconstruction and planning the next step of the fight that i remember we used to do. and if that’s not going to happen until november, i could save a lot of time by knowing that up front.
Nothing is free and that sucks!
Do you ever wonder that if it is blowing really hard where you are, it has to be sucking really hard somewhere else to equalize the difference?
That is hilarious…and you suck for not getting it!! I’ll bet you thought we all sucked pretty good, huh?
I had to go back to 187. I miss our old ziggarats!
yes, back in sucky TX … our household seems like this at times … mostly I read and lurk, it’s rare that I have time to get in a comment thread … good to see you back from sabbatical
All this talk about sucking got in the mind to do some bird watching:
http://dsf.chesco.org/ccparks/…..allows.jpg
Thats like the old question of why New Jersey has tides……
GOD SUCKS!!!
depends…on whether she’s free with time, or money, or both. Hint hint. This is our code, remember the last time I said hint hint?
I’d rather blog.
no. i don’t.
both obama and clinton practically ran out of dc after voting on the economic “stimulus” bill – so they both missed voting on fisa.
and that doesn’t count because of some great speeches?
where are the firepups i used to know? what happened?
Um, if Christy was here she’d probably be a little offended by that…just guessing of course.
Seems there was bunch happening about this last week.
Agood way to find out if your candidate really sucks is to ask each candidate to name their 5 best friends.
Hey – peeking’s no fair!
No such thing as a free lunch, eh?
Sucks, we’re out of wine. Sending husband out to get a bottle.
i believe there is a little blue pill that *helps* with that (ducking)
well it really sucks where I am.
who here is getting blown?
I’m not only smart enough to understand your question, but also obviously not smart to come up with an answer…*g*
Way past my bedtime. I get pieces of it. :-)
From MSNBC’s website bio of David Shuster
Gee, do you guys think this might have something to do with why Josh Marshall’s TPM is reporting that Hillary isn’t satisfied with a “temporary suspension or half-hearted apology…” She wants him fired.
With that I’ll say loud and clear, “Hillary sucks!”
we have been ’sucked’ in … or we just suck
LOL. Shows what generation you are in. The younger kids (coming of age in the Bill Clinton era) have different views of this, alas. (not kidding!)
or we suck at sucking
I agree. periodically looks like FDL sucks on that front. But usually they have the phone and fax numbers and e-mail addresses up. I didn’t see that this week, but I was busy so maybe missed it.
I thnk Reid and the Senate GOPers had things so fixed in their FISA deal that there was not much to be done anymore -the fix was in and that sucked the root.
I e-mailed alot. Now I am getting lots of sucky junk e-mails from sucky congresspeople who ignored my pleas!
Well, in that case Winnipeg definitely does not suck, because it sure as hell is blowing.
You got me beat though ET – windchill never made it lower that -47F today and the blizzard warning is over!
did you ever see Larry Craig in the men’s room? Now that would suck!
Video leaked of Howard Dean discussing what to do about Hillary with Obama-backing superdelegates:
http://videos.emule.com/play/c…..tch–(_bs515rZOdk
I always wondered what the Lake was like late Saturday night when Jane, Christy, Siun, LHP and the other adults were asleep! Fun!!!
I’m still considering changing my handle to “naughtybits” – ya think anyone would notice?
Very good question. I’d like to know the answer in the case of our 2 candidates – assuming each of them has 5 BFFS.
Dude, relax, it’s Saturday night.
We just had a massive voter turnout on the Progressive side and it’s looking really good for us.
The Republican Party is splintering and will not recover from this election for decades.
A black man just won the presidential primary in fucking Nebraska and Louisiana.
We’re always mentioning popcorn around here, so let’s enjoy it for few minutes.
Tomorrow is another day.
I feel the same way, selise. But this place changes a lot. I see you commenting at places where banter isn’t a large part of the topography, and enjoy {{{very much}}} reading your comments at those blogs.
I think fdl is at a point where we can’t quite figure how our synergy works. I feel I’m partly responsible for not handling stuff that came up last summer and scared people away, uh, more adeptly.
But, even if this IS the topic, fdl doesn’t suck. And – I’m glad you brought this up!
none of my comments were in any way about christy’s posting. if i ever did have anything to say about that, i would either take it up with her or stfu. but i don’t.
Wow!! That sucks!!!
shhh! lets just keep that little secret between just you and me, k?
187?
I’m not at 187. Did I miss a frame of reference? Now I’m worried…The MN wind-chill is affecting my cerebral cortex. I meant earlier not on this thread but earlier in the conventional sense: about four weeks ago. What did I start doing about three weeks ago, Richmond?
Sorry, but Nancy and Harry have effectively removed impeachment from the Constitution.
Do the “Virgin Islands” deliver 72 delegates?
She’s never free, Kirk. Her husband and twins are “pimping her out.” Don’t you know that?
Dang links:
“ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related ”
Honestly, I’ve overcome some pretty big hurdles in my own life, and I totally understand and connect to Obama’s message. Having that attitude has been a big reason for these accomplishments, just as Obama says for himself.
What realistically could a first term Senator do to stop these crooks and traitors in Congress and the White House, outside of filibustering all the time, a la Mr. Smith? He can radically change things from the White House.
Since he “says” all the right things (about FISA, Habeus, Iraq, etc.) and has a life history that shows his heart is in the right place, I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
Of course!! Though they might think we were related LOL
i fixed your link – there must be a space before and after the html coding or else it thinks it is part of the coding so i separated your “’s.
It sucks that it was 73 degrees today and my face was sunburned from working out in the yard….
And that SUCKS….BIG ones!
Not in 2009 they haven’t!
Yeah my candidate sucks, but at least it’s not Crazy train. And I never voted for Bush so in that light I guess my candidate isn’t so bad after all.
That and the 32yo blonde who is sleeping while I am blogging.
Me too just. I know who Bush’s 5 best friends are: Condi, Rove, Murdoch, Limbaugh & Blair
ARGGG!
LOL
When the cats are away…except AirportCat is here. I still can’t get over that handle. Brilliant!
OK. I thought you were lamenting the FDL that was, and how now it’s too focused on trivial matters. I was pointing out there was a bunch happening here last week about those issues. Just seems reasonable that in the heat of a Presidential Primary season, the balance might shift a little.
My candidate must really suck if he’s not even a candidate any more. So I don’t even have a candidate. As for the other two (is Gravel still running?) I guess they both suck. As Bill Murray said in Meatballs, “it just doesan’t matter.”
That may not be true. I guess the debate (cordial, of course) from now on will be framed in terms of who sucks less. I’ll be following closely.
AirportCat- LOL- thanks for that reminder of the “Cat Herding” video.
Really is apropos the Dem mind set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMgZ0pyGS4
I never have and never will vote for any member of the Bush family.
Ann in AZ: Good find. Wow.
Well, for this lucky guy in Kodiak, just when it was blowing so much, things REALLY sucked, he got sucked out of his sinking boat….
spew
imo, last week was as bad or worse than when the MCA passed.
it wasn’t just any week. it wasn’t even a pretty big week. it was off the scale.
and i was just wondering if there would be a chance at some point to discuss what happened when mukasey testified before the HJC or hayden/mueller/mcconnell testified before the HPSCI, or the FISA votes…
maybe not. that’s cool. just wanted to ask. sorry to be a downer when you-all are having fun.
i’ll catch you later.
Only if everybody else blows
Themselves up.
{{{{selise}}}}
Thanks Suzanne. The link to the “Burn the Witch” scene from Monty Pyton’s Holy Grail is my feeling about some of the horrible comments re: Hillary that I’ve seen recently — many from Obama supporters. I haven’t exactly been a big fan of Hillary in the past. And I thought I’d feel good about having so many decent Dem candidates running this primary season.
But instead I feel sickened by all the unnecessary nastiness from some peopel who seem to need to bash Hillary to justify their support for Obama. (You don’t have to despise and insult the Patriots to root for the Giants, do you?) I’m not even sure who I’ll vote for in our state primary. Does it even matter at this point?
People seem so swept away by Kennedy-nostalgia, inspiration, hope, change, blah blah blah… I find it creepy and depressing. As people were projecting onto Obama what they want to see to make themselves feel better. I really, truly hope my impression is incorrect in the end.
You’re way too serious here. We can’t be that intensely serious all the time. We need time(s) out…Otherwise, well I won’t say it. Let’s just say it has to do with labor-production and labor-reproduction (the latter, that is, human restoration and rejuvenation after an intense production).
I agree all the way.
I’m sure all that stuff will get discussed. I don’t think now, though. I watched all that testimony the other night. The three stooges made me angry and ill and sad. arrogant pricks. Mukasey was a major disappointment. He’s got the smirk down pretty well. he’s fitting right in.
Hi suz – ygm
Looks like CNN has called Louisiana for Huckabee on their website!
Wow…this really sucks!!! From 1998:
“On camera, a tireless Fox News correspondent, David Shuster, relishing his first break in three months from the Washington grand jury inquiry into Mr. Clinton’s sex life, talked nonstop about Whitewater, with no time for memorabilia. Mr. Shuster was back at his roots, rhetorically returning to real estate from sex, authoritatively dishing the latest scraps about the Little Rock grand jury and its repeat summoning of a shackled Susan H. McDougal, an important Whitewater figure. But for all the news-cycle drumbeat, Ms. McDougal seemed mainly to personify the sense of deja vu that increasingly haunts the Starr inquiries.
The rest of the nation may be in a state of ennui about the various Clinton investigative dossiers, but not Mr. Shuster, 30, who revels where others are confounded by details of a story that first sprung him from the local television station KATV to prime time in Washington.
”McDougal’s family claims that 12 Arkansans would never convict her,” Mr. Shuster told viewers, his baritone ringing confidently, with a metallic edge. ”But of course, it was 2 years ago that 12 Arkansans did convict her of fraud,” he added, neatly weeding through the tale to show its possible relevance to the President and the First Lady.”
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f…..A96E958260
Patriots?
We. Stomp. You. OUT!!!!!!
http://digg.com/football/Strah…..good_video
(Michael Strahan do it)
Ya know, when you put it that way, you got a point. Appreciate the perspective. Certainly could’ve used a little less Shuster and Rezko no doubt.
Shuster sucks.
AH Ah no more of that crap… win gracefully not with venom spewing forth from you mouth (keyboard?)
Youtube on waterboarding:
My Dog Talks About Mukasey and Torture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUWaffZCjhI
Well, we took a little step toward “healing” tonight, as Obama clearly got the “mo” that can give us the “unity” that we hear so much of, from the Clinton supporters. :o)
In fact, if he can take Maryland and Virginia, and a few more states, then I might get out MY dog-whistle, and start toodling the “Unity” concerto, to encourage Sen. Clinton to pack it in. :o)
Would that kind of unity be Okay, Thers? :o)
Got that right.
ding…
I don’t know…the Shuster stuff is starting to stink.
Louisiana is next to Arkansas.
Huckabee has a deathgrip on the snakehandler vote.
I understand turnout was higher in northern LA than in southern.
QED, Louisiana goes into Huckabee’s column.
SHEESE!
It took forever to skim all these comments .
Thers, just so ya know, my favorite candidate of the day really does suck, but I am glad he beat Crazy Train today!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.
GO Squirrel Muncher!
You’re absolutely right. At the same time, I’m learning thatt some people are just not capable of chillin’ or that’s not what they come her for. Or both. You gotta just deal with ‘em the way you think best. Ignore ‘em. Or tell ‘em t’ chill. Or hold them up to ridicule. Nah. Forget that one.
Thers,
You are not alone in your superiority – apparently 16% of us realize that our candidates suck.
maybe that explains why he didn’t do better in Alaska – we don’t have ‘em. Uh, snakes.
OTOH, he did well among the bear-handlers here.
Well, you can find my take on some of that stuff right here.
Obama doesn’t suck. He is going to bring us to the center where we can all join hands with republicans and hope for the best. It is about time.
Frank Rich doesn’t suck, he is Chris Matthews favorite opinion writer at the NY Times.
Hillary doesn’t suck, she gave us Bill, and she is a pimp. And it’s hard out there for a pimp.
FDL doesn’t suck, because it lets me mingle with Obamicans who have enlightened me to hope and a new day.
So what sucks?……..
Hi, Busted. “Squirrel Muncher”? LOL!
Were you able to go to the caucus today?
There was a good comment at my place today, The only reason Squirrel Muncher is still running is because no one would pay any attention to the Republican race until after the convention without him.
I liked that thought process.
Oh, and BTW, that’s my blog, and it sucks.
thank you.
and if i may say, great looking page
CCMask; regarding bush’s friends, I’ve got $20 bucks that says if we nominate Obama, Rice will resign within 60 days, and she may not be the only one.
It will happen because when they’re watching Obama make HIS acceptance speech, they will be watching their Hillary lifeboat heading two miles down in the North Atlantic, and thinking:
“Well there goes the only rescue craft on the entire American political scene…” :o)
Man, just feel like a broken record sometimes.
Just tonight Obama went through a bunch of specifics, and referenced cases in his past where got similar measures passed. I get interested by his speeches that are obviously moving an entire nation, from all regions and creeds.
I get excited when I hear that same person saying he’s going to get universal care in his first erm, without mandates, eliminating pre-existing conditions clauses, ending the practice of PO Boxes in tropical islands to avoid corporate taxes, and many other things, which he all said tonight, that what I’m supporting.
I’m not being blinded by exciting speeches and hype.
No, long story but it’s a moot point now, I had a service call at noon and had to drop everything and go to work.
Thanks, Brian. I feel better already.
I’m going to go out and buy some hand sanitizer in anticipation of that Hands Across the Middle of the Road moment. Oh happy day!
I guess the past kinda catches up to you…He’s on of my favorites… Note I didn’t use the past tense.
Thanks, now it sucks a little less :))
hmm…
perhaps Big Pharma is right about that “epidemic” of adult ADD…..
First, I think the other night you meant to say that i reminded you of a “stereotypical” New Yorker. Not an “atypical” New Yorker. If that’s not what you meant, it should have been.
Also, I’m from New Jersey, not New York.
I don’t think it’s venemous. It IS happy beyond words.
Now, I know this isn’t a sports minded blog, but the imporatnt point is that that is my rallying cry for the Democrats this election year: We. Stomp. You. OUT!!!!
Rubber gloves for me.
I don’t agree, but I thoroughly disapprove of his recent disparaging of the Clinton family, and especially the use of the word “pimping.”
During and after the Libby fiasco, David Schuster was the epitome of what a rational reporter should be. He was well informed. He spoke the truth to power, succinctly and accurately. And since then he has been every bit the voice of accuracy and reason.
But that ended a few weeks ago, when he seemed to get inappropriatel protective and congratulative of Chris Matthews. I have no idea of what happened, but the use of the word “pimp” as a verb is inevitably demeaning to the purveyor, the prospective buyer, and the goods being sold. And that is so even on the street. Perhaps, Shuster didn’t know better.
Me too. But now I understand the sucky situation a little better, and that sucks.
New Jersey sucks, well the northern half anyway.
Before I go beddy-bye under a warm comforter (alas, with no other body) on a really cold MN night, I gotta say again that AirportCat is a really brilliant handle, IMHO, and truly really honestly doesn’t SUCK!
I prefer Obamatron over Obamican. Thanks.
The notion that Obama and Clinton are vastly different on the topic of “working with Republicans” is ridiculous. The entire Clinton DLC record is about working with Republicans. That’s why we got garbage like “Don’t ask don’t tell” instead of true reform.
Both Obama and Clinton are at this point indistinguishable on this topic, period.
Well, as long as it sucks, i’m gonna take a look.
I remember 50 below when I lived in Bemidji as a kid.
Did you read #276?? No wonder they went after him that hard. It sucks. I’ve always really liked him, and that stuff was years ago, but dayem…
The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that this is a case of the backstage chatter amongst reporters, just their off-handedness, bleeding out on camera. Not better, but understandable.
Bummer. But that’s life sometimes.
BFL I will remember that call and hope it comes true for these idiots in charge of things now… down with the current crop of republicans…. Suz is not on that list of course :>)
And speaking of things that suck, John Bolton endorses McCain.
That all sounds really terrific. Hope it all comes to pass.
Maybe it’s because I’m Jewish, but I don’t get as excited at the spectacle of a stadium full of people being moved by an inspiring leader as some do. Feels too culty for me.
You say you’re not blinded by exciting speeches and hype, but the rest of your comment sort of implies exactly that. You get excited by Obama’s campaign speeches and the reactions of others. Unless we assume that “specific” promises in campaign speeches will be fulfilled that could just be talk and hype, no?
OH yeah New Jersey sucks to… GOD made it so! Thats why they have tides./
There’s a headline for ya,
The Walrus Boards The Crazy Train…..
Colin Powell doesn’t suck anymore, because he will endorse Senator Obama in the general election.
You huckleberry! You have a link for Phil Rizzuto. I don’t remember him as a player. Just announcer.
LOL!
TIme to eject this whole gang of criminals from office. Eyes on the prize people.
Ain’t goin’ there, ain’t goin there, ain’t goin there.
….. and that’s why we moved to Flori-DUH.
I have to ‘fess up, it’s really not that brilliant … I work at an airport. I share my home with a lot of cats, some of which were acquired at the last airport I worked at. Sometimes, the truth sucks.
OK, I’m out. Lot’s to do tomorrow.
Until that time, Eustis, until that time…
Just curious. Is the 32 yo blond your equal? You are a really smart guy, and I assume you about 55-60 years old.
I like Barackite
That was not for you Egregious, by the way.
Colin Powell doesn’t suck anymore…
Whether he likes it or not, Colin Powell will suck until the day he dies.
How many passes does one gte on selling out your country, and being the worst kind of liar – the one who people assume that they can trust and respect?
Fuck Colin Powell.
Yeah I figured.
Just curious. How do you ever pick any candidate for anything? Everything they say is just “talk.”
What is the preferred feeling then? Shouldn’t we feel personally vested in the future of the country? how is that cultish?
do you have a link for more info? “ADD” is an issue for our family. Real or not, there are pills to fix…
CNN – here on the west coast – has Obama’s speech.
selise, I cannot believe these issues haven’t been the major news items…it’s total proof that the MSM is bought. Pure and simple.
McCandyCain is gonna get licked this Nov.
Suze is on MY list.
(Kidding.)
You know, in 2004, everytime they called a state for Kerry I let one of my kids blow up a blue baloon. Got them intertested in the election coverage and rooting for the right guy. They’re 4 years older now and balloons won’t do it. No more games. every sttae that goes blue, i jump up. Down with a thud and yell We. Stomp You OUT!!!!! After eaxch debate when ______________ (insert name of Dem candidiate here) kicks McCains ass, I’ll do the same. This is gonna be fun. And when we do win, I’m not gonna be at all graceful.
that sucks busted
sucking down Steinlager, listening to Shostakovich’s The Fall of Berlin, writing new music about George Bush.
Jay, its time to move on and reach out and embrace your adversaries, its a new day, can’t we all get along? I think Obama should pardon Bush and Cheney after he wins the primary, so we can move on from our differences. It is a new day. Its time to put aside our differences, live and let live.
Boy it sucks to have to go through more than 335 comments just to get to the end. I was watching The Commitments, which does not suck, for the couple of hours. Nothing like Irish Soul Music!
Oh I was curious, what did this mean?
jayt, man, you have to stop holding back! Now, tell us what you really think. You can do it. We’re here for you, man.
But if anyone lives there, please send bagels. Pleeeeeeeeeze.
bfl, your list sucks
Gonna get stomped out.
g’nite, Sangemon – sleep well!
And foxman, I’m sorry I don’t have any links at hand. I do wish you and family the best in dealing with the burden you describe.
BTW, my doubt is not about whether some folks have ADD – my doubt is about Big Pharma’s marketing…..
My candidate sucks, but yours blows!
I was thinking of watching the Commitments again, after seeing Juno.
You’re new here, aren’t you?
;)
Cacophony?
If our candidates suck hard enough, will John McCain blow up?
When we come to a thread and, like there’s already comments up, are we, like supoposed to read ‘em first?
I was thinking about the pathetic campaign of Bob Dole in 1996, and realized I couldn’t remember who his running mate was. It was that lame. (can you name him…no peeking)
McCandyCain’s gonna be much, much worse.
And this is really important. Not to be forgotten.
I haven’t seen Juno yet.
So long as you are grooming the next generation of democrats I will go along with that… but still win gracefully and then we can start the investigations to punish these SOBs for what they have done to our country on every front of civilization.
Not necessarily but I wanted to get the “flavor” of this one first.
thanks,
i should have been more precise.
is the “ADD epidemic” real or invented by big pharma?
see it.
punaise would be jealous … that was good!
I came to be inspired. I usually just read alot, but they mixed up my meds at the hospital, and tonight I feel the love! I have embraced Obama. I have seen the error of my ways and I want to make love to a republican…hugs everyone! Big kiss to Mr. Bonkers for helping me…..I went to the Obama website and I was converted….now I can’t decide if I should vote for Ron Paul or barrack in the TX Primary……
OMG. So much info available.
BOOM!!! splat.
All candidates suck by definition…to be a politician you have to suck a lot of folks
Yawn. It’s getting tiresome.
Who’s Ron Paul? Does he suck?
That is massive sucking or…sucking the masses
Go t’bed, man. It’s 1 o’clock in the morning. Nite bonk.
Yeah, it sucks
369 three six nine sucking by the numbers
only 370 plus comments on a thread?
totally sucks.
thanks Thers.
best wishes to all…but you suck.
John Bolton may as well lick a parking meter in Minneapolis right about now.
Or….shameless sucking candidates
…? sucking shameless candidates All SUCKS.. What’s that sound.. everybody sees who’s goin down
Nearly 400 comments on a “Sucking” post, and I haven’t noticed a single reference to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Impressive.
Oh. Whoops.
45 minutes until the store closes,,,,,nite Mr. B, look forward to being on same side in the general, nite BFL, nite nite all, last call calls….
My candidate sucks better than your candidate…so thers
And I did trust Colin Powell at that point. I believed Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. It had never occured to me that my government would lie to me before that incident. I’m still in shock.
Tongue in cheek sucking?
Just a few days ago, many of us commented how we’d like to see David with his own show. I still feel that way. He had a job to do; he did it well because he’s good with details. It wasn’t his fault that Hillary played doormat and enabled her husband to get away with playing “hide the cigar” for many years of their married life. It wasn’t Shuster’s fault that she projected the image of the poor, pitiful wife who’s always the last to know for all your little girls to use as a role model. Can you imagine being a schoolgirl whose friends, enemies, and all others she rubs elbows with daily know every dirty little detail of her father’s indiscretion and the fact that he tried to cover it up with perjury! That wasn’t Shuster’s fault either. Just as it wasn’t David’s fault that Ken Starr was
allowedencouraged to carry on a witch hunt for so many years of the Clinton Presidency. And it won’t be his fault if the whole thing happens again.I’m personally surprised that Hillary wants to rip that scab open all over again to get a pound of flesh as revenge for what went down so many years ago. She’s hated the press for a long time. I’ll grant that both Chris Matthews and Don Imus are male chauvinist pigs of the first order. I just don’t think that’s the case with Shuster. This particular incident was definitely a poor choice of words. But I’m offended that when President Clinton and Hillary have problems, they blame the press. Sometimes they need to assess their own very direct faults, and one of them is trying to have things both ways with their daughter. Chelsea even brushed off a 9-year-old reporter, because she said she doesn’t speak to the press, and that means her, even though she thought the little girl was cute. Nice!
BTW, up until this incident, I’ve always felt that no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, and that if Hill could forgive Bill, who are we to judge. I’ve also long felt that we all got exposed to this (including the children) because of a very vindictive Rethug party movement toward the politics of personal destruction. But if Hillary wants to play the revenge game, as far as I’m concerned, bring it on. However, I thought she would want to win votes; not alienate further what should be her base.
No shrubbery…hmmm no suckie
Agreed. Stupid politics. She needs to “seem” bigger than this right now.
Yer a leetle confused there homer….
Obama has that slot nailed down!
I’m guessing it’s over and Obama wins.
IMHO, the only rational feeling is outrage. We have been deceived, misrepresented, exploited, robbed, demeaned, exploited, and pissed on. Rage and outrage are the only sane feelings.
That sucks
No but she’s reasonable
They suck bigtime
Conjugating sucks:
I suck we suck
He/she suck you suck
you suck they suck
Now put that to music and you got a song that really sucks
Very good comments IMHO.
My candidate was also Edwards. The two remaining candidates are centrist and more alike than not alike.
The winner of the Democratic nomination gets my vote. My support $ went to Edwards and the remaining two don’t seem to have a real money problem at least not for now. We’ll see what that situation looks like after the conventions.
One interesting thing though. Since 1932 we’ve had four winners and two losers picked in the “smoke filled” rooms. Since 1972 we’ve had two winners and five losers picked via primaries.
Since we’ve had primaries in every state the amount of money (corrected for inflation) needed to run for president has skyrocketed completely off the charts meaning that big money plays a much bigger role than in the past.
Our four Presidents nominated by deals at conventions enacted the most liberal legislation in our history.
Our two Presidents nominated by primaries have been the most conservative Democrats since Grover Cleveland.
This time around the most liberal of our viable candidates came in third and is sitting on the sidelines.
Explain to me again how primaries are better.
Screaming hilariously
Ah, no I’m not, champ.
Hillary’s calling Traitor Joe an “Independent Democrat” right now, and thinks he should be able to caucus with Dems.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=52NDBLxW8fI
This Obama as Traitor Joe’s mentor thing has gotten out of hand. Obama was assigned to J. Low. This is a virtually meaningless tradition in the Senate in that it’s just about learning your way around more than anything. The only thing I could find that says otherwise is articles that quote Traitor Joe saying Obama picked him. We know how accurate LieberME! quotes are.
Paul Wellstone said a lot of nice things about Lieberman. It’s just part of being in the Senate and being a mature adult. Obama has very clearly for years been much more supportive of the Russ Feingolds and Dick Durbins or the world, rather than the Traitor Joes.
So yes, Hillary should run on the CT for Lieberman ticket.
Damn, Ann. Yer on a roll! Right on.
where are the firepups i used to know? what happened?
Nostaalgia…that would make a great song if it didn’t suck so much
Was that for real? It was as hateful a tirade as I have read. I used to be sickened by the right-wing hate-Clinton chorus, but now I see very little difference between them and some on the “liberal” left. Is it a generational divide? Are you aware of Shuster’s background at FOX where he cut his teeth by rabidly fixating on the Whitewater and Lewinski investigations? Yes, he redeemed himself with the Plame and Libby affair, but as Media Matters reported he was angered when his buddy, Tweety, had to apologize to Hillary and that circle-the-wagons alpha bonding with Tweety likely led to him suggesting that the Clintons were “prostituting” Chelsea. His half-hearted “apology” which was wrung out of him (check the email trail on politico.com) paled in comparison to the sincere heartfelt apology by Olbermann later in the day. In truth, I doubt that either Shuster or Tweety get it at all.
Ann in AZ: it’s only speculation that Hillary wants Schuster fired because of Whitewater. Also, I don’t think that what goes on in the Clinton marriage, and how Hillary chose to deal (or not deal) with her husband’s infidelity is any of our business; I know couples that chose to stay together after one partner had an affair, and in the cases I know about I wouldn’t dream of throwing the “doormat” charge at the injured party. I mean, if you could imagine someone as tough as Hillary Clinton as a doormat. You evidently think she should have divorced him; I think that it’s her choice.
I say this as an Obama supporter (but one who does not hate Hillary Clinton as some seem to).
I’m thinking that she’s holding out against MSNBC to pressure all of them (especially Chris Matthews) into giving her better coverage. It’s an old game in the sports world, called “working the ref”. In the end, she needs debates more than Obama does.
Are you Jack’s son?
I can’t let 400 comments go by without adding:
WE ALL SUCK!
Why does anyone care about the fact that Hillary apparently doesn’t place sexual fidelity at the top of her list of priorities? I really don’t get it. Isn’t that a private/emotional matter that has nothing to do with anything we care about from a political perspective? Maybe their relationship is founded on something other than sex? So what? Why the hell should we worry about that? That’s so primitive anyway – and there are far more important things in life.
All of that sucks too much
It’s not that your candidate sucks so much, but that you can’t tell how much you are being pandered to and manipulated. Now, somebody who can’t see that… sucks. So, as much as I hate to say it, the problem with your candidate is that you suck.
In repsonse to Ann in AZ.
Pretending you know everything about the Clinton’s marriage, and being able to declare it is definitely bogus or whatever makes you a part of the Britney generation to me, and it definitely sucks.
I’m thinking your candidate’s health care proposal has been dumbed down in pursuit of the indigent young and the Blue Dogs and Indpendents in primary season, and that really sucks.
Same way you hire people. Based on resume, references, past accomplishments that can be checked out and ALSO the things they say.
You don’t just hire the guy that tells you “Hire me, and I’ll do everything you could possibly want done around here.” Although, at some places I’ve worked they do go ahead and hire the tall athletic guy that they suspect will “inspire” all the subordinates regardless of all the above.
Ann said: “I’ll grant that both Chris Matthews and Don Imus are male chauvinist pigs of the first order. I just don’t think that’s the case with Shuster.”
I had a boyfriend in college that was a sweet guy on his own. But around his Sigma Chi frat brothers — yeesh! A pig. That was hard for my naive freshman brain to understand.
The contagion of agressive, smartass, insulting, arrogant male chauvinism is a common phenomenon and on the MSNBC set it is rampant…even without Imus around. Scarborough, Willie Geist, Tucker Carlson, Matthews…these are the worst offenders and the effect they have on their coworkers is obvious when you hear Shuster starting to blurt this crap too.
Thank you Thers. I haven’t laughed like this in a very long time. A great post. *still wiping tears from eyes*
8 years of a Repubican monkey propped up by compromised Democrats, warmongers, corporate criminals, and intolerant Jesus freaks is what SUCKS in 2008
…not our spirited discourse and process of selecting the best candidate to reverse the downward spiral set in motion by these incompetents.
OMG Thers, thanks for that (wiping tears of laughter)? May I quote you liberally? Please, if I promise not to fuck any squirrels?
I got no problem that my candidate sucks, but then again–he’s already left the race! What I’m stuck with is figuring out which is the lesser of 2 evils. Actually it’s now dow to which one pisses me off the most and right now that’s Obama! His “Hillary’s voters will cross over and support me, while the reverse isn’t true”, reminds me of the spoiled 11 year old who strikes out and in a fit of rage takes his bat and ball home–thus spoiling everyone else’s fun. For the good of the party as well as the country–he shouldn’t play that card. If he’s the nominee, I’m going to have a hard time getting motivated to show up in November–oh that’s right, my choice is living under more Repug Rule! Then again, I’m not exactly inspired by Hillary either–oh that’s right, my choice is living under more Repug Rule!. Where are those 72% who are happy with either of the candidates as the nominee? I am definitely not one of them.