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	<title>Comments on: Everything* You&#8217;ve Always Wanted  To Know About Increased Death and Disease Near The Great Lakes (* But The CDC Was Afraid You&#8217;d Ask)</title>
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		<title>By: njr83</title>
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		<dc:creator>njr83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dr. Murphy,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;any prognostication…  if sea levels rise will the pollutants spread faster than cleanup can be accomplished?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Murphy,</p>
<p>any prognostication…  if sea levels rise will the pollutants spread faster than cleanup can be accomplished?</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks I think I drank some of that water as a kid. Sometimes light would go all prism colors at the top of the water like when gas on water reflects sunlight. But I think I’m ok now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks I think I drank some of that water as a kid. Sometimes light would go all prism colors at the top of the water like when gas on water reflects sunlight. But I think I’m ok now.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hi things - glad you liked the post. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the news IS a scoop, but the scoop is from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.publicintegrity.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;center for public integrity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(and h/t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020808E.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;truthout&lt;/a&gt;!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I don’t know what is causing the color of the polluted water.  wish we knew what it was and how to make it go away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think a number of pollutants (and combinations) may cause a similar color.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;blergh&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi things &#8211; glad you liked the post. </p>
<p>the news IS a scoop, but the scoop is from the <a href="http://www.publicintegrity.org/" rel="nofollow">center for public integrity</a></p>
<p>(and h/t <a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020808E.shtml" rel="nofollow">truthout</a>!)</p>
<p> I don’t know what is causing the color of the polluted water.  wish we knew what it was and how to make it go away.</p>
<p>i think a number of pollutants (and combinations) may cause a similar color.</p>
<p>blergh</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“replyReply&lt;br /&gt;
View this users Facebook profile Kirk James Murphy, M.D. February 9th, 2008 at 6:35 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;jayt and Petro - thank you both.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;solai, there is indeed an increase in birth defects of the anogenital region - one of the regions in our body where “endocrine disruptors” (chemical pollutants that mimic our natural hormones) have the greatest likelihood of causinng…well..disruption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some researchers link increased endocrine disruptors to both:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(a) increased rates of infertilty / reproductive abnormalities&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(b) iincreasing rates of learning/behavioral disorders (perhaps most especially in boys)&lt;br /&gt;
reply” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Learning disorders in boys? like Attention Deficit Disorder, Hyperactivity, lower than average IQ (I don’t care what the media says his IQ is) Dyslexia? Bush might be the first enviromentaly challenged President!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“replyReply<br />
View this users Facebook profile Kirk James Murphy, M.D. February 9th, 2008 at 6:35 pm<br />
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<p>jayt and Petro &#8211; thank you both.</p>
<p>solai, there is indeed an increase in birth defects of the anogenital region &#8211; one of the regions in our body where “endocrine disruptors” (chemical pollutants that mimic our natural hormones) have the greatest likelihood of causinng…well..disruption.</p>
<p>Some researchers link increased endocrine disruptors to both:</p>
<p>(a) increased rates of infertilty / reproductive abnormalities</p>
<p>(b) iincreasing rates of learning/behavioral disorders (perhaps most especially in boys)<br />
reply” </p>
<p>Learning disorders in boys? like Attention Deficit Disorder, Hyperactivity, lower than average IQ (I don’t care what the media says his IQ is) Dyslexia? Bush might be the first enviromentaly challenged President!</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh that orange water in the picture what causes it? We had a stream just like that that led into the lakewater near my home.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh that orange water in the picture what causes it? We had a stream just like that that led into the lakewater near my home.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Arrrgh! I used to live their! Just when I think things can’t get any worse! I want the CDC the EPA and the Bushies to get sentenced to drinking the water!&lt;br /&gt;
    Sorry I’m late this post was a Scoop! Kirk it deserves to be repeated and it needs some mainstream media attention.&lt;br /&gt;
     It needs some attention from our Presidential candidates as well. Nothing else says what the difference is between LEFTY Democrats and the GOP.&lt;br /&gt;
   The GOP makes money killing people in wars or with pollution often with government cash and then they try and cover it up.&lt;br /&gt;
    We think that people come first. Granted if a Woman chooses not to have a child we think that is her choice.&lt;br /&gt;
   But if she choose to have a child the GOP would not and has not told her about the pollution affecting her chances her desire to have a child.&lt;br /&gt;
     Free choice individual need to know is more important than Souless Corporate Money.&lt;br /&gt;
    I say that if the only way you can make money is by hurting people then you are in the wrong business, a poor businessman, and you need to go to jail.&lt;br /&gt;
    This Darth, liberals don’t understand we need oil might have been true in the 70s but we also started building electric cars prototypes then too.&lt;br /&gt;
    We would not be in an oil war today if people like Darth in the 70s said sure oil is cheaper now but who wants to bet on peace in the Middle East?&lt;br /&gt;
   Get mine today Damm the future is a conservative view point. We say what if?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrrgh! I used to live their! Just when I think things can’t get any worse! I want the CDC the EPA and the Bushies to get sentenced to drinking the water!<br />
    Sorry I’m late this post was a Scoop! Kirk it deserves to be repeated and it needs some mainstream media attention.<br />
     It needs some attention from our Presidential candidates as well. Nothing else says what the difference is between LEFTY Democrats and the GOP.<br />
   The GOP makes money killing people in wars or with pollution often with government cash and then they try and cover it up.<br />
    We think that people come first. Granted if a Woman chooses not to have a child we think that is her choice.<br />
   But if she choose to have a child the GOP would not and has not told her about the pollution affecting her chances her desire to have a child.<br />
     Free choice individual need to know is more important than Souless Corporate Money.<br />
    I say that if the only way you can make money is by hurting people then you are in the wrong business, a poor businessman, and you need to go to jail.<br />
    This Darth, liberals don’t understand we need oil might have been true in the 70s but we also started building electric cars prototypes then too.<br />
    We would not be in an oil war today if people like Darth in the 70s said sure oil is cheaper now but who wants to bet on peace in the Middle East?<br />
   Get mine today Damm the future is a conservative view point. We say what if?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CDC has hundreds of terrific, exceptional people to be sure, but a lot of things have happened there to make many of them leave and a lot are unhappy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The tragic thing if you read that NYT account of the postal workers at the Brentwood Station in Washington was that one of them was begging for Antrhax treatment and being told for several days he couldn’t have gotten Anthrax because he didn’t inhale enough spores (not knowing that they didn’t know how many spores you might need to inhale).  He knew what he had; was begging for treatment and couldn’t get it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What gets really ironic, although anyone like that needs IV antibiotics from the quniolone group and very intensive pulmonary care, in big cities for a period of time right after that scare pharmacists couldn’t keep a stock of Cipro and the other members of its family.  People were buying it in droves to stock up–including physicians.  One pharmacist told me that physicians snapped it up.  That group of drugs is known to build resistance in bugs very rapidly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDC has hundreds of terrific, exceptional people to be sure, but a lot of things have happened there to make many of them leave and a lot are unhappy.</p>
<p>The tragic thing if you read that NYT account of the postal workers at the Brentwood Station in Washington was that one of them was begging for Antrhax treatment and being told for several days he couldn’t have gotten Anthrax because he didn’t inhale enough spores (not knowing that they didn’t know how many spores you might need to inhale).  He knew what he had; was begging for treatment and couldn’t get it.</p>
<p>What gets really ironic, although anyone like that needs IV antibiotics from the quniolone group and very intensive pulmonary care, in big cities for a period of time right after that scare pharmacists couldn’t keep a stock of Cipro and the other members of its family.  People were buying it in droves to stock up–including physicians.  One pharmacist told me that physicians snapped it up.  That group of drugs is known to build resistance in bugs very rapidly.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Too many of their scams have an all-out, go-for-broke quality.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve just been hoping that, as is often the case with those who think there’s no tomorrow to deal with, there’s much more resiliency and sheer size in the system that they have thought.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many of their scams have an all-out, go-for-broke quality.</p>
<p>I’ve just been hoping that, as is often the case with those who think there’s no tomorrow to deal with, there’s much more resiliency and sheer size in the system that they have thought.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have one of those booklets that warn of polluted fish here in Mi too. Or at least we use too. In the past year I have looked for an updated version, but haven’t found one yet. In Mi’s booklet there were many different warnings like don’t eat bottom eating fish, don’t eat fish a certain length (the longer the fish the older it is, the more toxins the fish could have), only eat this type of fish once a week, only eat that kind once a month, etc. The known toxins for each type of fish was listed. After reading that booklet who would want to eat fish at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have one of those booklets that warn of polluted fish here in Mi too. Or at least we use too. In the past year I have looked for an updated version, but haven’t found one yet. In Mi’s booklet there were many different warnings like don’t eat bottom eating fish, don’t eat fish a certain length (the longer the fish the older it is, the more toxins the fish could have), only eat this type of fish once a week, only eat that kind once a month, etc. The known toxins for each type of fish was listed. After reading that booklet who would want to eat fish at all.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;kirk the doc says–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;”one thing I’ve learned from ecology is that every niche is important.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In bringing change, some folks will focus on local action - some will focus on central power (state / Federal / WTO).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see change coming most rapidly when those seeking change fiind the niche that best fits their situation, and then work for change while respecting and celebrating the work towards the same goal conducted in all the niches.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey - an ecological organizing model for eco-protection.  What’s not to like?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;      on the small town radio show here the talk lately has been whether to vote on a republican ballot to make national change (ronpaul fans) or to vote democratic to affect the sheriff and prosecutor offices locally……..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i call in to remind people that they have themselves talked about change in their own homes first.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you change yourself, then that affedts your family, that affects your neighbors, that affects your block, that affects your community, that affects your city, that affects your state, that affects your country……….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it is always most important to change yourself first, then you know where your convictions lay/lie, then you can influence what matters to you……….that’s how it happens………that’s how empowerment happens, and it may be someone else or some other thing that spurs/inspires it in you, but it still comes from you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;go get those epa reports people, they’re just waitin’ for you to read.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kirk the doc says–</p>
<p>”one thing I’ve learned from ecology is that every niche is important.</p>
<p>In bringing change, some folks will focus on local action &#8211; some will focus on central power (state / Federal / WTO).</p>
<p>I see change coming most rapidly when those seeking change fiind the niche that best fits their situation, and then work for change while respecting and celebrating the work towards the same goal conducted in all the niches.</p>
<p>Hey &#8211; an ecological organizing model for eco-protection.  What’s not to like?”</p>
<p>      on the small town radio show here the talk lately has been whether to vote on a republican ballot to make national change (ronpaul fans) or to vote democratic to affect the sheriff and prosecutor offices locally……..</p>
<p>i call in to remind people that they have themselves talked about change in their own homes first.</p>
<p>you change yourself, then that affedts your family, that affects your neighbors, that affects your block, that affects your community, that affects your city, that affects your state, that affects your country……….</p>
<p>it is always most important to change yourself first, then you know where your convictions lay/lie, then you can influence what matters to you……….that’s how it happens………that’s how empowerment happens, and it may be someone else or some other thing that spurs/inspires it in you, but it still comes from you.</p>
<p>go get those epa reports people, they’re just waitin’ for you to read.</p>
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