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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Message of Hope, Change, and Unity Is the Weakest Part of His Campaign</title>
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		<title>By: independant</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/07/obamas-message-of-hope-change-and-unity-is-the-weakest-part-of-his-campaign/#comment-1259375</link>
		<dc:creator>independant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you honestly think that the economy is solid right now, that we’re winning the war in Iraq/against terrorism, and that the position of the U.S.A. abroad is strong, then vote for the GOP candidate in November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you honestly think that our economy is unstable, that we’re losing in Iraq/against terrorism, and that the position of the U.S.A. abroad is weak, then vote for the Democrat in November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you honestly think that the economy is solid right now, that we’re winning the war in Iraq/against terrorism, and that the position of the U.S.A. abroad is strong, then vote for the GOP candidate in November.</p>
<p>If you honestly think that our economy is unstable, that we’re losing in Iraq/against terrorism, and that the position of the U.S.A. abroad is weak, then vote for the Democrat in November.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: deminutah</title>
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		<dc:creator>deminutah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks to the media bias and younger generation(who do not really look past the feel good speeches and good looks), Sen. Obama has gotten away without having to provide any details about what he means by “Change” and what he would do for universal health care.  If he is the nominee, he would not be able to get by with his current approach and fight the republican machine.  Even as it is he looks significantly inexperienced compared to John McCain.  Obama’s performance on one-on-one debate with Hillary showed that he really can not argue on issues.  His mantra about Iraq will not do him any good against McCain as it does with Hillary  because McCain is proud of his stance and all of the republican applaud his hawkish position.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that it is time that saner democrats wake up and seriously look at  Obama’s positions on issues and make sure that he good enough to win gainst Mccain.  Finally, Obama reminds me of the Robert Redford character in the movie “The Candidate” where he gets elected on slogans “there has got be a better way” and  “better way with McKay”.  When he gets in his first question to his aide was “what do I do now?”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dem in Utah&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the media bias and younger generation(who do not really look past the feel good speeches and good looks), Sen. Obama has gotten away without having to provide any details about what he means by “Change” and what he would do for universal health care.  If he is the nominee, he would not be able to get by with his current approach and fight the republican machine.  Even as it is he looks significantly inexperienced compared to John McCain.  Obama’s performance on one-on-one debate with Hillary showed that he really can not argue on issues.  His mantra about Iraq will not do him any good against McCain as it does with Hillary  because McCain is proud of his stance and all of the republican applaud his hawkish position.</p>
<p>I think that it is time that saner democrats wake up and seriously look at  Obama’s positions on issues and make sure that he good enough to win gainst Mccain.  Finally, Obama reminds me of the Robert Redford character in the movie “The Candidate” where he gets elected on slogans “there has got be a better way” and  “better way with McKay”.  When he gets in his first question to his aide was “what do I do now?”.</p>
<p>Dem in Utah</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
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		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well said, swopa&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;obama’s manipulation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;of voter ignorance - and of voter hope for a better future&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;really bothers me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s not leading;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s exploiting the emotions of millions of supporters.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said, swopa</p>
<p>obama’s manipulation</p>
<p>of voter ignorance &#8211; and of voter hope for a better future</p>
<p>really bothers me.</p>
<p>he’s not leading;</p>
<p>he’s exploiting the emotions of millions of supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: RedHen</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedHen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To paraphrase George Lakoff, the quality of leadership is an issue. The ability to unite the country is an issue. Trust is an issue. Moral judgment is an issue. Adherence to democratic ideals — rather than political positioning, triangulation, and incrementalism — is an issue. Inspiration, a call to a higher purpose, and a transcendence of interest-based politics are issues. Change and unity and the smarts to make it happen for the right reasons- not bad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase George Lakoff, the quality of leadership is an issue. The ability to unite the country is an issue. Trust is an issue. Moral judgment is an issue. Adherence to democratic ideals — rather than political positioning, triangulation, and incrementalism — is an issue. Inspiration, a call to a higher purpose, and a transcendence of interest-based politics are issues. Change and unity and the smarts to make it happen for the right reasons- not bad.</p>
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		<title>By: hyerstandard</title>
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		<dc:creator>hyerstandard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow this site is quite one sided regarding the whole Hillary and Barack race. Oh well, everyone has their favorites. You want to know what I think is Hillary’s biggest problem?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;—-&gt; THIS:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Aaron Tonken, former Hollywood fund-raiser, current federal penitentiary inmate in California.In 2000 he hosted a fund-raiser that took in more than $1 million for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign.onken originally drew interest from the FBI for failing to report some donations from the event to the FEC. Although he was never charged for election-law violations, in 2003 he pleaded guilty to stealing from charities, including, according to an ABC News report, the Betty Ford clinic. He is currently serving a five-year sentence for mail and wire fraud.The self-described con man got his start in Hollywood as Zsa Zsa Gabor’s dog keeper. He sold stories about her to tabloids and snuck tourists into her dilapidated, dog feces-ridden mansion while she was out of town.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is just one, of about 15 that we could go over. But being as though we are all Democrats we should probably not rip our candidates to shreds b/c one is going to have to run in the general election.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this site is quite one sided regarding the whole Hillary and Barack race. Oh well, everyone has their favorites. You want to know what I think is Hillary’s biggest problem?</p>
<p>—-&gt; THIS:
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<blockquote><p>Aaron Tonken, former Hollywood fund-raiser, current federal penitentiary inmate in California.In 2000 he hosted a fund-raiser that took in more than $1 million for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign.onken originally drew interest from the FBI for failing to report some donations from the event to the FEC. Although he was never charged for election-law violations, in 2003 he pleaded guilty to stealing from charities, including, according to an ABC News report, the Betty Ford clinic. He is currently serving a five-year sentence for mail and wire fraud.The self-described con man got his start in Hollywood as Zsa Zsa Gabor’s dog keeper. He sold stories about her to tabloids and snuck tourists into her dilapidated, dog feces-ridden mansion while she was out of town.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is just one, of about 15 that we could go over. But being as though we are all Democrats we should probably not rip our candidates to shreds b/c one is going to have to run in the general election.</p>
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		<title>By: SueN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SueN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“meaning….to get money from average Americans, Hillary is going to have to work hard at it.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I  fail entirely to see how this ties in with Hillary’s age. Is she too old “to work hard at it”? Or is she too old to be attractive enough for average Americans to give her money, perhaps because your “average American” is enamored with youth? And no, I did not view your comment as having anything to do with her personal life; just with her perceived age. Incidentally, isn’t Kucinich out of the race?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“meaning….to get money from average Americans, Hillary is going to have to work hard at it.”</p>
<p>I  fail entirely to see how this ties in with Hillary’s age. Is she too old “to work hard at it”? Or is she too old to be attractive enough for average Americans to give her money, perhaps because your “average American” is enamored with youth? And no, I did not view your comment as having anything to do with her personal life; just with her perceived age. Incidentally, isn’t Kucinich out of the race?</p>
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		<title>By: MSSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I beg to differ.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find the outreach to “all of us” impressive and hopeful. It’s one of the strongest aspects of the Obama campaign to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not see Obama reaching out to George W. and taking on all of George W’s ideas. Instead, I see Obama taking an issue — like nuclear nonproliferation, say — looking for anyone on the ‘other side’ who has a reasonable interest in finding a better solution than what we’ve got — and then negotiating a solution that moves us and them towards a better place. In Illinois, I just read, Obama got the state legislature to demand that all police videotape arrests and ‘confessions’ to protect defendants; he worked for a long time to get conservatives and police to sign on, and got a unanimous bill with most of the conditions he wanted; he did not sell out, he got action.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For those who worry that ‘hope, change and unity’ is a BS giveaway… take the time to look again. Maybe you’ll agree with me that there is positive, meaningful reality there. That all the Bush “blue sky” rhetoric has made us mistrust “blue sky” words when they really do mean something. What a shame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ.</p>
<p>I find the outreach to “all of us” impressive and hopeful. It’s one of the strongest aspects of the Obama campaign to me.</p>
<p>I do not see Obama reaching out to George W. and taking on all of George W’s ideas. Instead, I see Obama taking an issue — like nuclear nonproliferation, say — looking for anyone on the ‘other side’ who has a reasonable interest in finding a better solution than what we’ve got — and then negotiating a solution that moves us and them towards a better place. In Illinois, I just read, Obama got the state legislature to demand that all police videotape arrests and ‘confessions’ to protect defendants; he worked for a long time to get conservatives and police to sign on, and got a unanimous bill with most of the conditions he wanted; he did not sell out, he got action.</p>
<p>For those who worry that ‘hope, change and unity’ is a BS giveaway… take the time to look again. Maybe you’ll agree with me that there is positive, meaningful reality there. That all the Bush “blue sky” rhetoric has made us mistrust “blue sky” words when they really do mean something. What a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The results of the next 8 primaries should be very sobering.  The future is building on the past.  May the candidate with the most pledged and legal delegates win. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The results of the next 8 primaries should be very sobering.  The future is building on the past.  May the candidate with the most pledged and legal delegates win. :)</p>
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		<title>By: tsmith911</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsmith911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama vs Clinton&lt;br /&gt;
Flowery, poetic rhetoric vs specific solutions to real problems&lt;br /&gt;
Stuttering before answering vs detailed answers at the ready&lt;br /&gt;
Criticizing the past vs proposals for the future&lt;br /&gt;
“Her voters will vote for me, my voters might not vote for her”. vs “We will all come together as Democrats.”&lt;br /&gt;
8,630,272 votes vs 8,914,026 votes.*&lt;br /&gt;
*All primaries and caucuses through Feb. 5.&lt;br /&gt;
George H W Bush vs Bill Clinton&lt;br /&gt;
George W Bush vs Al Gore&lt;br /&gt;
George W Bush vs John Kerry&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m ready for another smart, informed, and prepared President.  I’ve had enough of flowery rhetoric, searching for answers, criticizing the past instead of building for the future, and the ‘I, me, mine’ outlook/lookout of so many people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grow up America…we need to get serious for the country and for the world.  If we don’t stop this “my way or the highway” attitude so many Americans seem to have acquired since Bill Clinton was President then our nation and our world are in serious peril.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama vs Clinton<br />
Flowery, poetic rhetoric vs specific solutions to real problems<br />
Stuttering before answering vs detailed answers at the ready<br />
Criticizing the past vs proposals for the future<br />
“Her voters will vote for me, my voters might not vote for her”. vs “We will all come together as Democrats.”<br />
8,630,272 votes vs 8,914,026 votes.*<br />
*All primaries and caucuses through Feb. 5.<br />
George H W Bush vs Bill Clinton<br />
George W Bush vs Al Gore<br />
George W Bush vs John Kerry</p>
<p>I’m ready for another smart, informed, and prepared President.  I’ve had enough of flowery rhetoric, searching for answers, criticizing the past instead of building for the future, and the ‘I, me, mine’ outlook/lookout of so many people.</p>
<p>Grow up America…we need to get serious for the country and for the world.  If we don’t stop this “my way or the highway” attitude so many Americans seem to have acquired since Bill Clinton was President then our nation and our world are in serious peril.</p>
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		<title>By: mutatio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mutatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I just gave him $500.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great, now maybe he can afford some specifics. ;-) lol jk&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I just gave him $500.”</p>
<p>Great, now maybe he can afford some specifics. ;-) lol jk</p>
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