The main role of progressives so far in the immigration debate has largely been a defensive one -- trying to beat back the ugly tide of nativism that has driven most of the legislation and activism around the issue in recent years, especially within the Republican Party.
We saw this dynamic at work this week, when the focus fell on the wave of hatefulness that's been the regular drumbeat on immigration both within the media and within political circles in the recent past. A coalition of progressive reformists came out firing with a campaign aimed at stopping the drumbeat, fueled by the recognition that it has been fueled in large part by reckless rhetoric from mainstream Republicans and media figures -- most notably, CNN's Lou Dobbs, who when confronted with demands for accountability on this score has blustered and lied -- but the debate still took place largely on his terms.
However, even Republicans are starting to realize that not only is immigrant-bashing a non-starter for them -- for instance, the otherwise quite clueless David Brooks is aware enough to plead: "Can we please stop pretending that immigration is a good issue for Republicans?" -- it's a dead end for the party in the long term. Certainly, whatever advantage among Latinos the GOP might have gained under Bush's tenure has been demolished by the likes of Tom Tancredo and the rest of the GOP field.
Progressives need to recognize that immigration reform, conversely, can be a real winning issue for them -- especially for the long term. The electorate's rebuke of Republican nativists is a chance to completely and permanently alter the field of play, to get away from fighting defensive battles and to go on the offensive -- instituting a progressive approach to immigration that is both humane and effective for working-class Americans across the racial and economic spectrum.
The immigration debate, for those progressives who have already been deeply involved in it, has in fact felt rather like waiting for Godot -- we know our fellow progressives are going to be coming along any day now to join the journey toward effective reform. Still, we sit and sit, checking our watches as the clock ticks down, and we wonder.
So far, the debate has almost entirely revolved around the division between rival factions of the right: the corporate conservatives who have benefited from the status quo and would benefit even more from a "guest worker" program; and the nativist bloc that wants every one of the 12 million "illegal aliens" in America rounded up and "sent back where they came from."
If there is a progressive position, it has largely been involved in knocking down nonsense from both sides of the right, but particularly the race-baiting nativist factions. If there is a positive position, it hasn't been enunciated clearly at all -- which means that there has been precious little advocacy from the left. It's well past time for that to change.
This is especially the case because the rightist factions have managed to simply dismiss any advocacy from the left as being about "open borders" -- see, for instance, the way that Dobbs dismissed the factual evidence regarding his reliance on white supremacists and hate groups in his broadcasts by claiming that both the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL are advocates of "open borders" (actually, they're not). That is, of course, a typically false smear from the right. And elucidating a clear progressive position is the only way to overcome it.
As Rick Jacobs, the chief organizer of this summer's Dreams Across America tour -- a ride on which I tagged along for FDL -- observed at the time at Huffington Post:
The immigrant's rights movement has been more about rights than about movement. Up to now, we have seen hundreds of thousands of mostly Mexicans marching in downtown LA or other cities, opposing draconian law or demanding rights. But as my friend Paula Litt at Liberty Hill Foundation says, there is no inalienable right to become a US citizen. So the movement has brought lots of unions and people of color (read: Latino and Asian) together, it has not inspired the online activists who write blogs and checks or the white political elite who write checks to take action.
Matt Stoller has also talked about this:
What is clear is that if progressives are going to play on immigration, we need a strategy and a set of arguments. My gut says that this is going to require linking immigration and trade, since this is an issue having to do with labor, capital, and goods all flowing across borders. Our current immigration 'problems' (or opportunities, depending on whether you a big business guy who likes slave labor) cannot be disassociated from NAFTA, and I'm curious why that attempt was made.
In other words, if there's a 'grand bargain' to be struck on immigration, it should address the millions of Mexicans and Americans thrown into poverty by our trade policies, who then become immigrants or dispossessed. Regardless, the immigration debate, for it to be relevant to progressives, has to be linked to a larger narrative of economic instability. There's something about labor rights in there, but labor has so little reach now that we need new arguments.
This is exactly right, so far as it goes. However, we also need to understand that immigration encompasses much more than merely economics and trade -- it's about fundamental human decency, it's about our place in the world and our cultural and economic health, but most of all it's about the meaning of what it is to be American:
What America has always been about is our shared values -- a love of freedom and a respect for others' freedoms, our willingness to work hard, our desire to raise our families in a safe and healthy place, and our wish to pass all that on to our children and their children.
For most of the past century -- since the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924, which codified the racist desire to keep out people who were not white (specifically, Chinese and Japanese) -- our immigration laws have been predicated on the desire to keep people out, because we believed their skin color and nationality mattered more than their values. As the Dreamers and their stories make clear, it is time to find a way to welcome those who are, inside, truly American.
When that happens, we finally will begin living up to our own great ideal: the American dream.
Progressive values encompass all those things, and a progressive position on immigration will naturally be about them as well. But progressives haven't taken it because it hasn't been clear to them just how they can enunciate those things in a cohesive way that makes sense not just to them but to all Americans.
This, I think, is why liberals have largely sat on their hands on this. Check out, if you will, the comments that came in to HuffPo over Jacobs' posts, or those that poured in to the Dreams Across America blog: they were overwhelmingly nativist (with many of them claiming, without much evidence, that they really are progressives, with the less-than-persuasive caveat that they're "just opposed to illegal immigration"). It has been hard to find many liberals actually willing to engage and refute their nonsense.
It also seems clear that progressives don't quite comprehend the importance of the immigration debate -- it just seems to many of us that this is an issue raised by conservatives and is simply an in-house fight among them. But the truth is that, probably more than any other issue confronting the nation beyond the Iraq war, it is a debate that will profoundly affect America's culture and economy, and its position in the world, for decades to come.
Most of all, it is probably the greatest opportunity in many years for progressives to regain their position of cultural strength, to make tremendous gains among average Americans in the heartland, and to reestablish liberalism as a powerful force for good in the political realm.
Doing so will require two significant steps:
-- Refuting the flood of wrong-headed garbage that's been coming from both factions of the right in this debate.
-- Enunciating a clear and powerful position for progressives that encompasses their values, as well as those of Americans at large.
I'll be devoting the next two posts in this space (Thursdays at 6 pm FDL) to precisely that project. And in the interim, I'm also interested in input from other progressives. We'll have a lively conversation here, I hope, and some of it will make it into next week's installment.
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Fundamental human decency. Let’s support it. Let’s embody it. Thank you, David for a wonderful and excellent post.
Peace, all.
Hello David, Great post and I couldn’t agree more. The GOPers are weak on this point and trying not to discuss it. A perfect time for us to ATTACK and own the rights (and I would add class to your trade) issues here.
I have had a great deal of success with this subject on small redneck blogs. Simply pointing out arresting millions of hungry people vs immunizing a handful of rich folks is only good for the rich folks (employers). And they are laughing at the bigots all the way to the bank.
AP via NY Times “Arizona Illegal Immigrant Law Upheld”
Excellent, David. Thank you. I will look forward to your next two installments.
In a way this is a very important issue- it’s got gooper american whipped into a frenzy. On the other hand- it’s not much of an issue because:
1) No one’s really going to do anything about it.
2) When nothing is done- nothing horrible is going to happen (unless you count the tops of gooper’s heads exploding horrible.
It would be comforting for many americans to know that we were in CONTROL of immigration and that it wasn’t just happening out there on it’s own. Control requires regulating employment- and no one is really willing to do that.
This is not partisan in that I don’t deeply support his candidacy. But folks might want to know that Barack Obama (or a very smart staffer) has spelled out his stance on immigration reform at Latina Lista.He continues the discussion in comments, so do look through them.
This piece made me feel much better about him. I think he gets what Neiwert is saying here.
Excellent, thanks for this post, David.
Fundamental human decency. I love the sound of that. I try to behave that way. Outstanding post, David
I did like it when he said we have to stop scapegoating people for problems they didn’t cause and really don’t have much impact about. Obama clearly pointed out that the issue of young, black male unemployment is one that is historically unrelated to immigration peaks.
To falsely assert that walling off the border is going to be a panacaea for black or white unemployment in the US is just more nativist propaganda.
Thanks, everyone. I also wrote on this subject and how American values play an important role in how we should be talking about it a couple of months ago over at Rick Perlstein’s place.
As we sit here tonight, one of my 17 yr old high school students (10th grade) is sitting in jail in San Antonio awaiting deportation? His crime? Not legally entitled to be here. According to his father, he won’t finish school there, but will get a job and live with other relatives.
How does this help anyone?
Mexico needs to pay its workers more money. They can afford to pay after all Carlos Slim is the richest man in the world. Mexico has been using the we are a poor country argument for years.
Notice how the GOP always borrows that argument when they argue that America can’t afford Social Security or Healthcare.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/0...../index.htm
Higher wages in Mexico will keep more Mexicans home. So far after NAFTA Mexico has become more unstable drug gangs shoot up police troops sent in to clean up entire towns, dead women at the border, kidnapping is becoming more popular.
Under NAFTA being honest does not pay immigrating or crime is what you have to do to survive.
The EU as a requirement to join insists on a relatively balanced budget and that the applying country move toward adopting the EU’s labour laws.
We with NAFTA said screw the workers and of course those workers are coming here.
We should compare EU countries that joined up at the same time Mexico signed NAFTA and ask ourselves if I had to do it over again.
That’s terrible.
Excellent post David. Made me think. This is no different than usual. Immigration policy has almost always been driven by economics and trade, but, as you say, there’s more to it than that and, I think, always has been. Nothing wrong with us making that point.
Since alot of people on the other side aren’t happy with McCain on imigration, you think it might not be that prominent of an issue in the general election?
Hi, Dave! Great post!
You and Sara are really doing awesome stuff at Orcinus. Just tremendous.
David, great post. Americans have been discussing this situation for at least the last 30 years, it always comes up around election time with much huffing and puffing and afterwards nothing is ever done. This is one of those thorny issues we really need to work together on because it’s the only way to solve it.
If you want to end immigration tell Mexico publicly that we will not send troops in to save the Democracy/Oligarchy in Mexico or anywhere in South America.
And that the rich in Mexico and the American Corporations that invest there had better make sure that their workers are happy.
America has had enough of fighting wars for oil we don’t need another war and unless the country has nukes I don’t see why we should care what another country chooses to do.
You would think that after having Corporate Democracy thrown down their throats for so long that Mexicans and South Americans would be happy?
Provided that Corporate Democracy really was a good thing.
Plus any corporation American and otherwise that engages in violations of international law to defend their economic interests will be sent to the Hauge.
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L.
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Aloha, Lahoma and OKK!
The C-Pac crew certainly let McCain know where they stand on Immigration…
This one’s certainly complicated.
People think it’s mostly about Mexico, but it’s also worth noting that Microsoft is opening up a center in Vancouver, BC — in large part due to immigration complications in the US.
From what I can tell, the immigration debate is like a camel — two humps; one is far lower on the economic scale (and largely centered around agriculture), whereas the other is high tech and has very different economics.
I haven’t seen this ‘two hump’ view discussed much. Anyone else see it this way….?
Because depending on WHICH ‘hump’ people seem to be looking at, the attitudes vary a great deal about what should be done regarding immigration.
did he really get booed?
Some Democrats understand immigration.
Most certainly did, even after they’d been told not to…! ;-)
that looks good. thanks dcb
Let’s hold politicians accountable for bad trade agreements
! ;-), inmdeed
In my opinion this is a BIG reason why the republics do not want Crazy train as their candidate.
I wouldn’t disagree with that assessment!
Like a lot of other issues, this is one that requires serious thought and deliberation. How do we come up with a humane policy that works while also encouraging Mexico to move towards economic equity? Obviously, this a problem for some very astute and dedicated problem solvers who know how to prioritize problems. One would think that solving the problems of immigration, poverty, war and environmental destruction would leave absolutely no time for anything else in our Congress.
Today, however, I looked at the congressional record for this session. If you take a look yourself, I think you too will be duly horrified. Along with deciding whose image should appear on stamps, they’ve been spending time congratulating various sports teams, criticizing Berkeley California, arguing about whether the ten commandments should be displayed in the supreme court, designating various days as ”national _____ day” and other ridiculous time-wasting crap, especially considering the fact that we’re in an state of crisis on so many different fronts.
Would somebody please declare a freeze on frivolous nonsense in Congress - or at least limit it to a couple of days a year?
I’m going to Mexico for some dental work that my insurance will not cover. I live in North San Diego County. What are most Americans doing?
Just payed a thousand dollars for my daughter to have root canal, and cap. That’s with insurance in the United States.
going into debt
Going without… We have a severe shortage of Doctors and Dentists here on the Big Isle, Insured or not it’s hard to find timely care… The ER is the only resort in many instances and forget about follow-on care…
IU Dental School…
This place is fucked. (A term my HS buds and I used, but so much more appropriate now).
David! Thanks so much for doing this series … finding strong ways to talk about immigration is so needed!
A benefit of selling my house is that I will hopefully have the money to go to Mexico for dental care. Lost my dental insurance when I was retired.
I googled “McCain and booed” (I still do everything boolean).
He gets booed alot.
Did you dive or are you skipping that?
I look forward to your follow up posts. I think there should BE no borders or restrictions on people moving about. However, I know that’s not going to happen any time soon, and I lack useful realistic arguments and goals in moving toward that end result…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...../#comments
How about not having both parties treat the left-of-centre opposition in Mexico as if its coming to power would mean ‘Chavez on the doorstep’? That would be a start.
Finally, someone willing to mention the reason immigrants want to come here. Our terrible corporate inspired trade policies decimating jobs in Mexico which bring these people here need to be revised where those jobs will return. As to dealing with the latinos here once we recognize it is of our own doing then perhaps we could accept a more humane solution. Deporting 12 million people is not the equitable solution. Giving them some protection and/or a path to citizenship is a more humane solution. Making slaves out of those workers here is not a solution. Punishing their children is not a solution. It is not as complicated as some want to make it, if we can first address our own responsibility and a humane solution.