Some people might think that one of the things that makes this country great is that every person, no matter their situation, has the potential to hold someone responsible for their harmful actions, in a court of law, before a jury of their peers.
But that is not necessarily the case. And this is not just the inability to obtain a lawyer to take a case, it is an absolute prohibition preventing a person from asserting another harmed them and to attempting some appropriate recovery to make things right.
And in one case in particular this injustice, intertwines with Bushtopia, the world we have facilitated in Iraq and how far we have gone to protect the corporate parties that have made it even worse:
A mother of five who says she was sexually harassed and assaulted while working for Halliburton/KBR in Iraq is headed for a secretive arbitration process rather than being able to present her case in open court.
A judge in Texas has ruled that Tracy Barker's case will be heard in arbitration, according to the terms of her initial employment contract.
Barker says that while in Iraq she was constantly propositioned by her superior, threatened and isolated after she reported an incident of sexual assault..."whether it is wise to send this type of claim to arbitration is not a question for this court to decide."
"Sadly," wrote Judge Miller, "sexual harassment, up to and including sexual assault, is a reality in today's workplace."
Well, it's a good thing we can't do something about it then, huh judge?
But the case reveals more about the world than just Cheney's old company being able to pull yet another fast one in Iraq. It is a reflection of how the law has changed in the last generation for all of us.
Millions of people have had arbitration agreements stuck under their noses, or have signed off on large and cumbersome employee handbooks with such provisions in them. By doing so they have allowed themselves to be deprived of a jury trial for legal violations that have not yet occurred or been imagined. Instead their case is shuffled into the private and quiet world of arbitration, with arbitrators unfamiliar with the violation they are alleging and limitations on their recovery more restrictive than obtainable at trial. A fine economic and social deal for the employer -- naturally.
The Supreme Court created this new "contractual limitation" seventeen years ago and bit by bit, little by little, it has expanded to the point where preemptive restrictions on an employee and limiting a company's exposure for not even yet committed harmful acts, is commonplace. Ironically, because of an even older Supreme Court decision, this is not a problem for union employees when it involves individual rights like this case.
And, of course, it has happened despite those "all powerful" trial lawyers.
It's a great system for corporations -- recognized as a person under the law -- just like you. Only better.
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Attaturk!
348.
Out here on the perimeter, there are no stars.
Goodnight, Attaturk and all.
Why are our Presidential Candidates silent on this Halliburton/KBR is linked in the voters minds to Darth. If we make enough noise the GOP will have to defend rape. They will have to defend the idea that getting a job with Hal means signing away your rights as an American.
We want the GOP to defend on this issue God talk about choosing a battlefield as Sun Tzu would say this is perfect for Hilary or for Obama if he wants some female votes.
Plus its Right!
Good morning, pups. It’s Collins, Cohen and Kristof today. Collins says Hillary Clinton would be winning the women’s vote this year even if she’d been a man. Although that’s a concept she says she would rather not dwell on. To give credit where credit is due she does call Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and James Dobson nuts. Mr. Cohen says a district-by-district battle for the Democratic nomination is what the country needed to reignite dulled senses and cowed hopes. Mr. Kristof asks “Who Is More Electable?” and says that voters in many states have only just begun to be acquainted with Barack Obama, and more familiarity may breed more comfort.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the Thomas’ English muffins are all hot and crispy. Have a good day.
Our Dems including both our Presidential Candidates have bent over for Bush on everything about ending the war, they claim that there is nothing they can do.
Well they can do something about this I want the Judge’s picture on Nancy Grace I want his picture on MSNBC! I want our Dems on their shows talking about this!
Nancy Grace and Don Abrams both claim to be Lawyers lets see if they can stop talking about missing white women for awhile and help a woman who is still alive and needs our help.
I do not care if your only a small commenter on a blog or a big talking head if everybody adds in their voice even Darth will listen.
Darth’s daughter was on tv a day ago why didn’t anybody ask her how she felt about this!
Oh right the MSM sellouts in order to get guests like Darth, his daughter or Henry Kissenger on tv have to agree ahead of time not to ask them questions about things like freakin WAR CRIMES!
Is having them on as guests really worth it? God their evil could desecrate a Church.
that’s like writing;
“sadly, we live in a time where one person might kill another person”
what the frig is wrong with this guy?
Every American has the protection of the law and in criminal cases I thought the Prosecutor could go after a case even if the victim declined to go ahead with the case. I have never heard of a judge saying in a criminal case that arbitration with the company and not a trial is the proper venue.
In what world does Halliburton/KBR get Special Rights that take away an Americans right to have their day in court.
Yes I know corporations are people too! But when did their rights become greater than a real person’s?
I hope she takes this to the Supreme Court not that I expect Scalia to rule differently I just want to impeach Scalia for being insane!
Same thing that’s wrong with most republics. Dog forbid corporations/businesses should be held accountable for their transgressions.
We need to give the judges address out on the radio. The GOP should know what it feels like to have their own scared. They have no problem doing it to us and in a case like this I think such action is called for.
Veddy interesting…..scar “has the day off.” Inquiring minds want to know.
Never did get an answer as to whether anyone at the Lake saw him when he supposedly walked off the show yesterday.
We need our people to insist that Hal pay for any counseling and or medical treatment she needs now until the case is decided.
We need our people to fight for the rule of law for Americans in Iraq before we fight for Iraqi rights.
We can’t even rebuild New Orleans but we want to rebuild Baghdad?
Lets get our own house in order first we can’t help anyone if we are this messed up.
Bush would know that, if he had ever gotten treatment for his drinking problem. Alkys can’t help anybody until they get centered or else they risk dragging down the people they want to help and themselves/America.
Why did he walk off I must have been asleep? Did someone say something mean:).
We need our Presidential Candidates to call for a public airing of the facts of this case even if it embarrasses the White House.
We need them to call for a quick trial before the election no more of this after the election crap law enforcement has been pulling to protect Bush.
After Scooter trials got delayed after the election Bush felt free to free Scooter. Lets see if Bush will free his friends before an election!
Bush wants this to go away quietly we need KO, Rachel etc (do we have anybody else?) to start hammering on this every day. There can be no secret trials in kangaroo courts for Bushies.
The law applies to everyone equally or it applies to no one!
I just read something to that effect on another blog; have no idea whether there’s any truth to the story.
morning!
excellent post… and ties in the fisa debates in congress. so much more important to protect our corporations than our people.
Can Tracy Barker appear on KO’s show or is she bound by the arbitration agreement to keep silent?
Is this the judge’s doing or does Halliburton/KBR actually make their employees sign a contract in blood (their own I presume) since corporate vampires have no blood.
Did Tracy give up her right to a trial in Criminal Matters when they are committed by her Bosses? Did she sign away her rights to Freedom of Speech to talk about her own life and what happened to her?
I think this whole issue needs a Supreme Court challenge.
Well we can hope:)
Good Morning, Firepups!
It’s overcast and mild here in central Jersey, with the first glimmers of light. My first day back to work after more than a week. Let me be an example: get your flu shots, people. I was as sick as the proverbial dog, and still have an awful cough (which is being treated with opiates, thank you very much–hooray for codeine!). Now Mr. NJP is sick, so it’s my turn to take care of him. And my sister has bronchitis. It has not been a healthy winter for us.
Thanks for the muffin, Marion, and the cup o’ tea. Gotta go. Be good to one another, since the corporations won’t be good to you.
Work for peace, every day.
Yeah can we really trust Darth not to order wire taps on Tracy’s phone calls to dig up blackmail when there is an election coming.
Do Barack and Hilary really think that Darth is not listening to them before an election? Where if Dems get control of the White House they might find out about Darth and Bush’s war crimes?
First joke of the day?
All of our family went through this before Christmas. On the good side it is one hell of a diet, I lost 15lbs. Gotta love that chicken soup.
Hey, by this point in time, I’ll count any bloody day he’s gone as a blessing. *g* I tune in at 6:00; if he’s there, hand me the clicker.
We need someone to ask Dana Perino the White House Press Secretary if George Bush thinks that Tracy Barker is getting a fair deal.
When Dana says the President has no comment on such matters we reply even if it involves a fellow Texan?
What if it had happened to his daughter?
Indeed. Now that the administration has embraced torture to the extent that they say they will do it again (as if they stopped!), women are being stripped searched by male deputies (Ohio) and violent crime is on the rise once again, domestic abuse is increasing in leaps and bounds. Welcome to “New America”
Good Morning!
here’s what’s coming up on Washington Journal:
7am - Stephen Dinan, Washington Times Political Reporter
7:30am - Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI), Armed Services Subcommittee Chairman
8:15am - Lou Cannon, Co-Author, “Reagan’s Disciple”
9am - Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Africa Subcommittee Chairman
9:30am - Newspaper Articles & Phones
George W. Bush is a war criminal
The War Crimes Act of 1996, makes violations of Common Article 3 of the (Senate-ratified) Geneva conventions a federal crime, and Common Article 3 prohibits “cruel treatment and torture” of detained persons. And, per the (Senate-ratified) U.N. Convention Against Torture:
Article VI of the U.S. Constitution makes Senate-ratified treaties (together with the Constitution and “the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof”) the supreme law of the land.
It is complicitous of Congress to let this war criminal continue his reign of terror. Along with Bush, our congressmen now carry an ever increasing moral and legal burden for which they may some day have to pay the price.
Morning, Elliott… I’v been up since 4 AM CT…*g*
I want the Supremes to be unpopular in the public eye so we can impeach them for all the conflicts of interest they ignored in Bush vs Gore.
Nobody but Congress can I think can call out the Supremes for conflict of interests. I want Scalia, Clarence, and Sandra Day O’Connor to know that history in their own lifetimes has judged them as worthy of being expelled from the Supreme Court.
I want them to know that there are consequences for the actions you take in life nobody not even a judge is beyond the law!.
Ignoring the law with a decision so corrupt in Bush vs Gore that you have to say the case can NEVER BE USED AS A PRECEDENT IN A FUTURE TRIAL seems to me a reason to expel them.
Plus your right it would be funny hearing Scalia justify a Corporations right to a Special Trial in a rape case.
Do you work at (or outside your) home? Just curious…
DING
I work where I can B!
You have a problem with a “just for now” legal ruling? Sounds about right in the new bushworld.
Biodun, how much time have you spent in Paris? I hear it’s kinda nice there
There are a lot of french there.
We need to turn this question against Bush so now that you tortured them just what was so important?
Did they have any knowledge of WMDs? Did they know where Ossama was (not that Bush has tried at all to get Ossama since Afghanistan).
Did you get any information? Why if torture really does work are we losing the war?
Don’t you think the fact that we do torture has turned the Iraqis against us?
I read Neil used to hang out with Obama’s mother years ago at some sort of political meetings. Apparently it was a fairly radical Liberal group, and Neil speaks very highly of her.
Now this was at some site dedicated to proving Obama is stealth radical Socialist Muslim, so not sure if it’s accurate at all.
If the Neil and Ann Dunham part is true, I think that’s pretty cool!
They executed a coup against the United States, which is likely a capital offense.
Exactly! And Mukasey testified to the effect that whether or not harsh interrogation was a crime depended on that importance of the information obtained. It would follow that we need to investigate whether or not a crime was committed, which would depend on knowing the exact information obtained and evaluating its “importance.”
We can’t even point to the Iraqis torturing a single American, else I’m sure I’d have heard about it by now. Sure they kill prisoners but they do it quick.
What does that say about our morals vs theirs?
Crises is the true test of morality after all it is easy to be good when times are easy. But when God tests you like he did Job will you still cling to the Lord and his Ways?
If when under pressure you give up your morals were you ever really a good man?
Bush has used fear to scare not tempt us into evil.
Speaking of “procedure” in courts… I came across an article that said the a “summary judgment” is unconstitutional. And this is a procedure used all the time to dismiss a claiment’s case.
“whether or not harsh interrogation was a crime depended on that importance of the information obtained.” No there is no theory of morality that says the end justifies the means except Anarchy, maybe Satanism and apparently the CIA manual under Bush.
A person of true faith would risk destruction rather than sink like an animal to survive.
Did the CIA know for sure ahead of time that these suspects who had not been convicted in a court of law knew anything that would justify torture.
Mukasey is so going down at the Hauge if he ever steps out of the country.
I wonder if Hughes list has a running tally of who might be guilty of war crimes which crimes how many crimes and the excuses given?
Great quote!
Good morning Attaturk & Pups!
Here’s a sign that appeared in the window of a funeral home in Philadelphia (can’t confirm it…it was sent to me by the owner of Sancho Press (www.sanchopress.com), who is a veteran:
“WE WOULD RATHER
DO BUSINESS WITH
1000 AL QAEDA TERRORISTS
THAN WITH ONE SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER!”
Not sure what this has to do with Attaturk’s post, but it reminded me of it. LOL More coffee maybe?
For example, in the constitution any legal action involving more than a sum of $20. This means that the US Tax Court is UNCONSTITUTIONAL because the court does not have a jury and all trials are before a judge.
The voids the 7th amendment and your right for a jury of your peers.
Seventh Amendment:
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Elliott -
Have you noticed there’s a new face as moderator on Washington Journo? Too soon for a real feel of what he’ll be like but here’s hoping they canned Greta permanently.
Is this the same woman who was locked in a container for 24 hours after being gang raped by employees? Or was that Blackwater?
in addition, and this point is missed by everyone, we get LESS information through torture, not more
ya, we might find something out we wouldn’t have found out but we lost more then we gained
there are much better techniques that yield more, faster, better info then torture
they JUST want to torture
the purpose of torture is NOT to gain information, as I said, we get more, better information when we don’t torture
the purpose of torture is to create the environment of fear
for that purpose it works
it also works creating more insurgents against your cause, it works preventing the occupied from accepting you as a benevolent
THE PURPOSE IS TO INSURE NEVER ENDING CONFRONTATION
that is the purpose and THAT’S the way the democrats have to discuss this issue, that the president is gathering less information, that he’s squandering good sources and making it impossible to gather information we need
that he HARMS national security through his policy of war crime
“A mother of five who says she was sexually harassed and assaulted while working for Halliburton/KBR in Iraq is headed for a secretive arbitration process rather than being able to present her case in open court.”
We need a snappy name for this Secret Arbitration Court that nobody has heard of so that the press can refer to it. I suggest the Bush court. Or the no Bush daughter will ever go to this court court.
I noticed that too!
I’ve heard him before tho.
He’s the voice that takes calls from the public when Washington Journal isn’t “in session” — like after the State of the Union speech. Interesting to put a face to that broadcasting voice he has.
What has happened over the years that the constitution, which is a document which protect INDIVIDUAL rights, has been largely ignored in the interest of the state to control the people.
Now we have a supreme court which seems to is hardly acting to preserve the constitution, rather the interests of special powerful groups.
I want to start calling it “the corporate owned roberts court”
and referance it like so;
“as soon as the corporate bought roberts court is disolved, all of his corporate decisions will be reversed as having violated the constitution, taken power from Americans and out it in the hands of corporatists”
every single democrat needs to put him on notice, we know what he’s doing, he’s being watched and history will not only record but reverse all of his decisions
Perris this is true that they are not seeking information and that torture is a tactic of the state to intimidate perceived enemies.
Since it is so abhorrent and inhuman it is seen as the ultimated weapon against individuals who sacrifice their lives for a cause.
Torture is simply cruelty on steroids and cruel and unusual punishment is also forbidden by the constitution. And that applies AFTER a trial and guilty verdict.
The use of torture by the USA in “interrogations” is completely over the top, since defendants do not have to speak without a lawyer present.
Interrogation, as practiced by the CIA, FBI and others goes against the constitution as well.
We need our constitution back.
Yeah we need to impeach the Supremes first to handle your concerns because it does not matter if the Dems pass any laws against corporations if the Supremes will just declare them illegal.
that’s exactly what’s going to happen, any law that forces corporations to pay their own bills will be reversed
and whenever there is a lower decision the corporatists don’t like, it will be sent to a bush/reagan appointed judge and if that is not possible it will wind up on the desk of alito and roberts
Corporations are not person either.
What has happened is that corporations have been given personhood and uber rights in our country.
We need to do some serious work at restoring the letter AND the spirit of the law.
This government by its spying is violating the 4th amendment every day of the week.
We have a government which has ignored the most fundamental laws.
Different person but your right just what is going on in Iraq? Sure rape happens but since when do corporations get sued for rape unless it was the boss and the company is trying to cover it up?
We need more facts about this case!
I don’t know why we, the people, can’t sue the CIA and DOD etc. for violation of the 8th amendment? Why do WE have to specifically injured? Why can’t we sue because they have harmed the NATION by violating the constitution?
Boy, you’ve got a good ear! And speaking of broadcasting voices….do you find most of the female broadcasters (TV) these days have this very unpleasant nasality that just grates? Maddow sounds pleasant; Amy’s good; but my favorite is Mary Sue Tuey (sp?) who handles sections of The Village (folk) on XM radio. Her voice makes me feel like I’m being wrapped in the most wonderfully warm duvet on a freezing morning.
Three years and then some. I went to school there, at the University de Paris-VIII (where all the radicals were/are), then at Vincennes, and now at St-Denis…*g*
I’ve also spent some time in Toulouse and Tours…
Excellent post Attaturk!
Good morning Firedogs!
Where in the world is Joe Scarborough this morning?
Just what kind of freaks get Iraq war contracts is Satan vetting these companies for Darth himself?
Catching up on a yesterday discussion. Someone was asking about getting mammograms and being encouraged to do so, as paying for it was a problem. This is a site that helps donate mammograms. Merely clicking on it helps supports those donations, no purchase necessary.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.....s?siteId=2
They may also know where the mammograms they pay offer can be had. Can someone remind me of the thread and the poster? Maybe Christy? Even better, the commenter?
Me and Waccamaw were wondering the same thing.
Per Mika, he “has the day off.” And may he have many more!
I want to emphasize that under Common Article 3, whether it’s torture or not:
CRUEL TREATMENT OF DETAINEES IS A WAR CRIME.
And, war crimes are federal crimes per the War Crimes Act of 1996.
Yeah Bush is going Down!
Arbitrations clauses are unconstitutional.
I agree but in reality only if we get a new Supreme Court.
“Representative government and trial by jury are the heart and lungs of liberty. Without them we have no other fortification against being ridden like horses, fleeced like sheep, worked like cattle, and fed and clothed like swine and hounds.”
—John Adams, 1774
Well, if the judge ruled that the case should go to trial rather than arbitration, it would make the Baby Halliburton cry.
Arbitration….in my small town, you can’t get in to see a doctor without signing a binding arbitration agreement. Maybe they’ve canceled their malpratice insurance. But 50 miles down the road, no piece of paper with microscopic printing. The doctah culcha…I’ve got mine, and YOU are out on a limb without a parachute.