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Thanks to Zell Miller, there is a rule to deal with Joe Lieberman.
Lieberman's endorsement of Republican John McCain disqualifies him as a super-delegate to the Democratic National Convention under what is informally known as the Zell Miller rule, according to Democratic State Chairwoman Nancy DiNardo.
Miller, then a Democratic senator from Georgia, not only endorsed Republican George Bush four years ago, but he delivered a vitriolic attack on Democrat John Kerry at the Republican National Convention.
The Democrats responded with a rule disqualifying any Democrat who crosses the aisle from being a super delegate. Lieberman will not be replaced, DiNardo said.
And for those who said they'd never lift their glass in a toast to Zell Miller...cheers!
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Hurray!!!
Salud!
HA-HA!
Cheers!
The worm has finally started turning.
Awww… Poor HoJo… What ever will he do…! ;-)
Will he be barred from Denver completely? If he shows up at the airport, can they arrest and detain him? Put him on the no-fly list or something?
4 delegate difference I think now so maybe the talk of who is winning can stop and policy start - ITS A TIE!
Maybe down to 3 delegates now looking at this post:
New post has been published - Lieberman Has “Superdelegate” Status Stripped Because of McCain Endorsement
Sad news is this means he will be switching to R soon (not that it matters), will he keep his committe assignments (his name written in there) or can it be stripped?
Aren’t committee assignments tied to party?
Obama won Conn because Hill was so cozy with Lie-berman. Finally hes getting some payback!
It’s about time !!!
it’s about time this judas sheep had some deomcratic position stripped from him, he’s no democrat
it’s clear he’s gonna take whatever welfare position they asign him if the repukelicans win the office
I would be surprised if that during the actual campaign for president mccain doesn’t choose him for vp or insinuate he’s gonna be secretary of state or defense
Well it sure is nice to see common sense sneak trough now and then. Especially since Joe Lieberman is not a Democrat! Does anyone have link to a list of super delegate names, por favor?
Nope, Reid had it worked out that the Chairs are named…
Lieberman has forfeited any right to call himself a Democrat, much less to receive any honors courtesies, or privileges granted by the Democratic Party to Democratic officeholders.
He’s not a Superdelegate. He’s a Supertraitor (to the Democratic Party).
Best post-Super Tuesday news yet!
Huzzah! How exciting to have RGJoe subject to a Zell Miller Rule. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
I may need a cocktail now.
So old give’em hell Zell left something positive, it is overdue but
welcome to see… after the general he will lose some of his value.
Eh, put him in the airport men’s room.
The nasal talking motherf897ker needed his mids adjusted, the tone sounded like shit.
From what I had read, I don’t think Short Ride anticipated being in Denver anyway. I think he had come to accept that his odor wasn’t too popular with Democrats.
I forget the exact quote after he had endorsed McCain but IIRC he was asked about his Senate colleagues running for the Presidency in the Dem primary which then included Senators Dodd and Biden as well as Senators Clinton and Obama and he responded “only John asked me.”
The real story is that this guy was still a super delegate after leaving the party! Unfrickingbelievable.
But why deprive Connecticut of its deserved super-delegate vote? Why not send Ned in Joe’s stead?
Hey. Champagne and confetti where we can get it! After the last two posts, this is a victory.
Leave Joe Lieberman alone!
-G
Has anyone checked to see whether LIEberman has a special-privilege parking space on Capitol Hill that could be revoked? Are there perhaps smaller, less convenient office quarters that could be assigned to him?
I like the Zell Miller rule. It sets a good precedent.
barbara’s naive question du jour: What happens to wee little Senate majority when Lieberman bolts? And why hasn’t he already done that? Okay, two naive questions. Beat me, beat me.
Yes! That’s always perplexed me! What does it take to get thrown OUT of this club?
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By the way, what was up with the childish, giddyness expressed by Chris Wallace over Karl Rove on the Daily Show?
I mean Wallace has been around a long time and he acted like a teenager at a concert. It was grotesque.
-G
Heh.
*clink*
Maybe LIEberman could be kicked off of Capitol Hill altogether. Rent him some seedy office space a few blocks away, where he would be only a “short ride” from the Capitol.
Whoa.. CT loses the delegate and not just the
manworm?I don’t get that either.
OT-Just an interesting tidbit. I’m watching Duke v UNC basketball. John and Elizabeth Edwards are there.
that’s a great friggin point, someone needs to ask how the hell he still had super delegate status
Well, what can I say… I never thought, in my wildest imagination, that I would EVER say “thanks” to Zell. Let this be a lesson to all of you — if you live long enough ANYTHING can happen. Thanks, Zell! Now, as the next order of business, can we get the little turd tossed off his committees? Harry? Are you listening?
Is Lieberman going to go to the GOP convention this summer and reuse the Zell Miller line: “What are the Democrats going to protect America with? SPITBALLS!
-G
Woo fucking hoo!
(the current news cycle is really challenging my plans for an Imbolc liver cleanse. Celtic genes will out, the stubborn little buggers)
The problem will be the super delegates.
Connecticut lost the right to a Democratic Superdelegate when it voted Joe Lie into office as a “Connecticut for Lieberman” senator.
Ned Lamont would have made a fine Democratic Superdelegate.
Well, there goes my dream scenario. First Lieberman shows up at the Republican convention and delivers a nominating speech for McCain. Then Lieberman goes to Denver as a Democratic super-delegate and provides the one-vote margin for the eventual nominee winner. A regular one person unity symbol all by himself. Now that last part is gone with the wind, thanks to windbag Zell Miller. Lieberman’s biography will always have Zell Miller as a footnote instead.
Finally the Democrats get it. Lieberman has jumped ship. If indeed he was ever on it.
I heard politicians are just policy makers for governing corporations.
Maybe RGJoe could use the time wisely whilst the Dems are in Denver: by holding hearings on Katrina contractors, or on Halliburton war-privateering, or on the missing CIA tapes, or on the empty Civil Liberties Board, or on the 9/11 Commission mole.
Dayum, but you be funny!!
You forgot to snort…
I’m down stairs shutting one of kiddos’ computers down down. I’m glad he didn’t see this about Lieberman. Want to press a kiddo button? Mention Lieberman.
goodnight again. Lahoma.
Maybe Lieberman will challenge Bay Buchanan to a duel at the Larry Craig Mensroom. Aren’t duels part of the great Zell Miller tradition?
Which crowd was Joe in during high school?
At the risk of appearing unhip (g) what is 707
Inquiring minds and all that.
Zell Miller.
Bless his heart.
Jane,
Thank you for helping to kick Joe out of the party. When he makes his Zell speech at the Rep convention there will be a major push for the state party to send a letter to give them head Harry to strip Joe of his Chair in 09. Thought you might want to know.
a crowd of one.
lots of my comments disappear into the ether… or is it moderation?
*gasp* Ya mean his job…? ;-)
the cheaters?
Night-night again, L. Snuggle happily!
With limp hotdogs? or bratwurst
LOL, upside down… From laughing so hard… *g*
LOL lying on your back with your feet in the air!
LOL, upside down
Did we answer your question, Maddy? ;-)
I am laughing so hard right njow I cjan harkly type
Man, (((((((((((((((((((((((gggggggggg))))))))))))))))))
Please help me with the math. Right now, today, exactly how many Dems, how many Reps and what — two Independents? Trying to figure this out.
Can we just rename Joe? I recommend Zell Dickhead.
-G
Just why the f*ck was Joe-Lie made Dem super-delegate in the first place after he left the Dem Party when he lost the Dem primary to form his own party to run against Lamont? I’m shocked that he had that status to begin with…
Lieberman is one of the most revolting politicians I can think of. There are quite a few miserable examples, but Lieberman ranks up there with W. and Cheney.
very loud ding
The Dem majority was most important during the organizing phase of this Congress, where we had the majority due to Joe claiming to caucus with us. That allowed the Dems to have all the committee chairs.
This can’t change until the 2009 organizing session. By then, we’ll hopefully have a lot more Dem senators and Joe will be completely irrelevant. So it won’t make any difference if we don’t have a technical majority until then.
Besides, Joe never votes with us on the important issues.
care to do a youtube yourself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Abrahm’s just played a cut of all of the Foxholes saying: “As Karl Rove has said…….”
They love their authoritarians who tell them shit don’t they?
-G
Rove is the same tool that was blabbering about having ‘the math’ in 2006.
Thank Harry Reid. Harry Reid is either a fool or a conservative turn coat.
In the Senate? 49 Rs and 49 Ds plus 2 Is who caucus with the Ds and provide the margin for the organizing resolution which named Harry Reid the Majority Leader and named all the D committee chairs (except for Short Ride as the chair of the Senate Oversight Committee - his price if you will).
Bless you!
Becarefull here folks if joe truly jumps ship and caucuses with the Repub we will lose control of the commitees. It is sure fun to see this scum bag get his but he could really screw us for the next few months if he jumps ship.
I look forward to his irrelevancy. With relish.
No oversight though. Remember how he vowed to investigate Katrina when he was running for office. He gave Bush a blow job instead.
joe lieberman, judas sheep
And you, too. Somehow, I spaced the whole makeup of the Senate thing.
I’m getting that same feeling of revulsion every time I see Harry Reid.
Linkie no workie.
Finally, some justice! This is purely “a good start.” What’s next?
I miss edit so much!!
And THANK you, too, dakine
Reply no workie either. That’s for you perris.
Thanks, Zell. Little did we know you would come in so handy. But, how does Lieberman, not a Democrat, get to be a superdeligate? It seems once he left the party he forfeited that status.
Louisiana primary coming up this weekend. Any Louisiana folks here who can shed some light?
There is some question as to whether he had it or not; some folks at the DNC don’t think he did, but DiNardo’s response seems to remove all doubt.
rove insists fireworks are gonna fly in the general election
I have no doubt he has crap to sell, true or false, he WILL create fireworks against the democrats
since the democrats WON’T lie, the rove strategy has a leg up on the smear factor
democrats have to create a strategy that will inoculate themselves from the smear tactics of lies from rove and company
they are gonna have to get that strategy prepared now so that when the crap does start flying they have something at the ready to compensate
if we know rove, and we do, it’s gonna be some huge shit he starts flinging into the fan
Irony, Zell is yer name. Thanks Mz. Hamsher for that one. *G*
Maybe someday there will be a Lieverman Rule, to govern someone who sells out for too little, or too much. *G*
Actually if he jumped ship right now it would be irrelevant, since the Senate rules and committee chairs have already been set in stone, until the next Congress…
Who was he pledged to?
How does this SuperDelegate thing work?
“how does Lieberman, not a Democrat, get to be a superdeligate? It seems once he left the party he forfeited that status.”
They probably gave Harry Reid the job of making up a list of U.S. Senator superdelegates.
“My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.” Punaise, right? I agree.
reply works, you have to enter the quote manually by hitting the quote button and pasting between tags
link button works also, you hit the button, paste your link, hit enter, then type what yuo want between the arrows at the end of the html tag
kind of complicated to explain but once you get it, you’re good to go
Who was he pledged to?
Louis Cipher
If you’re talking about Jane’s link, try it again.
Or try here:
http://blogs.courant.com/capit.....no-lo.html
So, you agree with me then, that having 40% of the delegates be ‘Super’ might not be a super great thing?
Hardly seems ‘Democratic’, although I’ve been assured that ‘there is no need to worry yet.’
Not worried, just not abundantly impressed.
Elected party officials, Senators, Reps, Gov’s, are Super Delegates, they’re not obliged to vote for any particular candidate, and can change their vote at any time…
Hey everyone - long time no see! I’d lost my login info, then couldn’t get re-logged in for a while.
All I can say about this story is BWAAAHHH!
(Oh, and I wonder if Joe might challenge Zell to a duel over this).
I don’t have a link but recall that sometime last year, Short ride quietly re-registered as a Dem in I believe it was Stamford, CT (where he residess I assume).
So technically, he is once again a member in not-so-good standing of the Democratic Party.
in order to promise power to the old timers, they were given super status for nominating presidential candidates
it’s well past it’s funtionality and needs to change but in point of fact, we don’t pick the candidates in these primaries, they are really just to tell the super delegates what we want
they have no rules, they can nominate whoever they want and according to rachale maddow, they are responsible for 40 percent of the decision votes
New Orleans was the reason that La. remained democratic. The black population was the anchor. The anchor is gone. Hard to say. Clinton may suffer from the misogny of the deep south.
The ugly thing about KKKarl and his ilk is that they plant rumors, false evidence, and run a vicious gossip machine with the express purpose of destroying the person.
Why does this work? Because little minds love ugly gossip no matter if it is false. They just love to hate. And, they hate the truth and won’t seek it out. They thrive on poison.
CNN has a brief discussion of delegates here:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI.....index.html
The one tactic that I believe would work on rove is to just laugh him off the stage. If he was laughed at all his pontifications would melt away and he would be just a republican puke nerd.
I know what you mean. But once in a while he’ll surprise you and do the right thing. He is stronger and more capable than he projects most often. But on the other hand, he can be wormy.
I can’t believe what I’m seeing at the Obama fundraising counter since the polls closed last night:
http://my.barackobama.com/page.....il/graphic
In the last 30 min., it’s gone from $4.4 million to $4.95 million !
Unreal
In the mid/late seventies after many elected officials were not selected as delegates during the McGovern and Carter conventions, the elected officials decided that they should ALWAYS be allowed to be delegates, no matter who they were supporting for President.
Hence, all former Presidents, Vice-Presidents, plus current Senators, Representatives, and I believe Governors are automatically delegates to the Democratic Party’s National Convention. There are some other as well I believe but that’s mainly it.
according to rachale maddow, they are responsible for 40 percent of the decision votes
What was Rachel referring to?
Actually, now that I’m thinking about it, it might be worth it to have Joe be a super delegate at the Dem convention. Can you imagine how long and loudly he would be booed the moment he walked into the auditorium?
It would almost be worth it to see his face.
This issue of Rove pulling a fast one is the reason I support Hillary. I’m sure she’s entirely capable of letting her witchyness shine. And that she has some serious goods.
he’s not talking about himself this time
he’s gonna release some bang zoom lies about whoever we nominate as soon as it will do the most damage
it won’t be him that releases it, it’s gonna be some new group that calls itself “the swift women against hillary”
or
“africans afraid of the bigot obama”
something like that, it will get legs because every single media outlet on the planet will run the charge and disclaim the adverstisement by leading;
“is it true?”
that’s what’s gonnna happen
Nevertheless, I’d like to see him show up. Perhaps his friend Barbara Boxer will be guarding the door.
Does this also mean that Democrats that endorsed a third-party Senatorial candidate will also be stripped of their super-delegate position…or would THAT be the “You Endorsed Joe Lieberman Rule”.
I’m also wondering what happens if Lieberman officially joins the Pugs…does the Senate Organizing Rule carry over to this current year. Or can Reid make new appointments now. Wouldn’t Lieberman lose his seniority in the Senate as a Republican (i.e. wouldn’t the Republicans consider him a first term Senator?) or would he be able to assert to them that he deserved chairmanships and positions based upon his tenure? Would he be able to kick a Republican Senator of their Committee?
Oh, I so hope that he does…he’ll be SOOOO Loved!
Sounds very 3 day old fishy to me, deals in the back room people disenfranchised and irrelevant?
If true, then we need a Joe Lieberman rule: If you resign from the party after losing a primary, you can’t be a super delegate. :)
super delegates, they account for 40 percent of the actual decision votes for picking the nominee…hard to overcome
As long and loudly as he was booed after he came back to the Senate as an “Independent Democrat?” As I recall that was a standing O…
Teeny note in local paper today that Ol’Mac is going to Munich for a security conference this weekend and taking Joey Shortpants and Timmeh Paw-lenty [I srewed up Minnesota real great, now can I screw up America some more?]
And QuakerGirl, karma for KKKarl would be to have some TMZ paparazzi followin’ him and Rush for a while…. There’s gotta be a Macaca or toe-tappin’ moment in there somewhere….
Super delegates is rubbish when you think about it. Ifr we are to have a series of primaries where the delegates are chosen then why all the super delegates?
Why? Because is is completely undemocratic elitist insider BS.
I thought there were like 100 or so but this is nuts. It defeats the whole purpose of the primaries. Whose dumb idea was that?
Can we have a front pager dig into super delegates , who they are, how the whole thing was conceived and so forth?????
So you think Lieberman has it bad……..
http://maryamnamazie.blogspot......ed-to.html