ES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYzzj26_qM

Hola, Eureka! Thanks for the Django.

Some serious strings, ES!

What’s on your mind tonight?

ChristineEdmondson’s got me checking this out.

(Thanks, Christine!)

Evening, all…

Howdy, Eureka Springs..

Hey PB! Where ya been?

Wow! This is so cool, and I promise to read it all. I’ve loved AW for decades for her firm loyalty to local food. I moved to France in 1978 when Mr. CE won a Fulbright to finish his Ph.D. I fell in love with INGREDIENTS.

Hello folks.

Is it all fuckery?

If I ever get to France, the first thing I’ll do is get a bicycle with two baskets on the back and toodle down to the bakery for a fresh baguette, then over to the market for some cheese, stop at the winery and head out to the country with a red checkered tablecloth to use for a picnic blanket.

What’s on my mind tonight? I might have sprained my ankle. I’ll go to my Health Partners Clinic tomorrow early to find out. If yes, I’ll probably have to use crutches for the first time in my life…

Relax and enjoy it. :)

Let me guess… You’re Katherine Hepburn.

Why yes. Yes I am. In my dreams. :)

I’ve done all that…in France, mostly in Villeneuve-les-Averon in southern France… for ten days…*g*

Yes you will!

Elevate it & ice it. Ice is the miracle drug. Ice ice ice, as much as you can stand. And if you can tolerate it, ibuprofin. How’d you do it?

Oh, work has been kicking me in the ass all last month. I’m finally resuming a more normal schedule of activities and such. Bleh.

Goosh. I wanted to be Ms. Hepburn.

elevate the foot and ice on 20 minutes, ice off 20 minutes

evening all.

hey wangdang, how busy is your morning? would you be up to give me a ride at 11?

Biodun, RICE — rest, ice, compression, elevation.

The fact of the matter is that real food makes people happy. It isn’t French, or American, or whatever, it is just fun. I’ve bored everyone here at Late Nite about how much our kids love to travel and eat (sorry). It just, is. So, how about my herb garden…

anyone hungry?

Ice, … or frozen peas. Hahaha. You can then cook the peas when they’re thawed.

Been there, done that, got restructured and two days later (yesterday) found a new job with more consistent hours (for more pay). I feel ya, girl!

Thanks, but am on scotch.

It’s in our dreams. We can all be Katherine Hepburn. Even Biodun.

hi eCAHN, that works too! (Speaking about the frozen peas…but maybe even about the Scotch *g*)

Hey, me! Worked tonight until 9:00.

I can do that. I have to pick up my final check in South Austin at 10 but it’s only 45 minutes away. Email the particulars…

I never get bored hearing or talking about food or gardening!

Yep. Everything you said is precisely what the nurse I had called earlier at HealthPartners after hours said, and also what my 17-year-old son Nelson told me tonight. He was over showing his old-fogey father how to download several-hundred songs that I had downloaded into iTunes file into my new and first iPod.

So it’s been three sessions of ice for 20 minutes at a time, with 45-mins break in-beteween.

Hiya Lou! Reminds of my friends husband’s vasectomy. He said frozen peas made the best ice pack.

ES! Hope all the scary weather stayed out of your neck of the woods.

And wang and Christine, thanks for the great link – I had no idea.

Dayam – and here I forgot about dinner…

off to the fridge (carefully)

lol wangdang ;-) and hiya!

Oh yes, and ibroprofen too, 800 mill, one every teo hours or so..

Watch the door!

Howdy, Ma’am!

800’s are the good ones, biodun. i’ve had one help a migraine not get worse. twas my favorite post surgical med.

After living in France for a year, I fell in love with markets. The French have a law that makes public the origin of all products. It is really cool that one knows that oranges come from Israel, or, Florida. Fish from France, or England. Guess it is sort of old lady.

Scotch & frozen peas, maybe. But I’d be careful about the scotch & ibuprofen.

Ha ha ha! Another foodie!

(yum yum yum nom nom nom…)

The cool thing about ibuprofin is the over the counter stuff translates to prescription. Just take four of the OTC 200’s.

Any way, I (might have) sprained the ankle when I fell this morning, and was more worried about my laptop than my body/ankle. But then the pain set in later…

Anyway, on to politics. I’m kinda new to FDL night threads. Are they more or less open?

Heh, we always referred to it as GI Candy… It helps us through the grueling marches etal… ;-)

what’s on my mind tonight?

For the first time in weeks, I do believe my mind is quite empty.

All the sprained ankle advice sounds like what I got for my sprained knee: ice, ice, ice and ice some more plus crazy amounts of ibuprofen.

Pretty damn painful, I was sure I’d done something worse than a sprain, so I was grateful it was only a sprain. I still don’t know how I did it.

We eat alot and pump quarters into the jukebox.

It’s a free for all! Have at it!

off topic is the topic, biodun

my orthopedist said not to do that due to the binders and fillers used in the OTC.

What was Alaska’s primary No.’s, I had to laugh when KO was showing something like 167 votes for Obama and 70 odd votes for Hill… ;-)

And late late nighters especially love their mod.

:::blushing:::

Yep. France is my one of my 3 countries. I have US, British, and French passports…

Wow, I hadn’t heard that. Thanks, Suz.

howdy CT,

doodle, i will call if i am too medicated or too dizzy to drive. ergh!

A serious foodie. My sister is a chef, married to a French chef. I’m an old lady librarian who spent a few years studying university food science.

Interesting…I asked the same thing about the 800mg dosage I was prescribed, and was told to use the OTC if I wanted…(which I did, I buy this stuff in bulk :-P )

How’d you manage that? (And if you don’t tell us all how to do it, we’ll attack your other ankle.)

A little something from Birdland.

Ah…I don’t have a pedigree quite like that ;-) But my mother is a fabulous cook and travels quite a bit…she’s not shy about asking people how they make things. And one of the best parts about travelling is trying the food…I usually try to lose some weight before going ;-)

WNYC today had a segment on how science is trying to combine with cooking for a better menu. Off to look for the link.

paging dr kirk murphy or alias to the white courtesy phone for a question please

Do that. Leave a message if the ring doesn’t go through. My phone’s been acting up, it doesn’t ring sometimes but the voicemail song always seems to work.

Which accent prevails?

Ah PB, I’ve no pedigree at all! Just a happy mom who has traveled a lot and learned TO COOK and bake, too.

Go here
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopa…..2008/02/06
& look for Experimental Cuisine Collective

G’night all. Biodun, hope you don’t end up on crutches — take care!

“Hola, Eureka! Thanks for the Django.”

Likewise, except that I figured out that it was the “Django Reinhardt New York City Festival”, i.e., the festival held in honor of Django. Nevertheless, well done, and Dark Eyes is one of my favorites! I used to play it frequently when I was living in Houston and playing “Gypsy” music. Unfortunately, my musical friends here don’t know that tune…

What I’m thinking of tonight is that its Ash Wednesday. For Lent, my church is going to be reading Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and I’m going to be thinking of Naomi Wolf. I’d like to read them side by side. I don’t think I’d make the same choices as Bonhoeffer, but the dilemma he faced is, in some ways, our dilemma, too.

Bob in HI

g’nite ll and any other leaving sleepy pups

Cooking is the easy part, the baking is a whole nother thing…! Ya have to be so exact… ;-)

So nice to see you!

G’nite Lou.

Bob, I see it’s your turn to experience the flash flooding…!

The numbers up here might not seem significant to people from NYC or LA, but at our local caucus in 2004 we got 35. This year, we got over 1,000. In Anchorage, the traffic jams outside the Dem Caucuses closed traffic down all evening. More people would have come if they could have gotten through the traffic, or – once through the traffic – into the doors. And it is COLD this week. Fairbanks had over 1,300 Dems caucus and it lower than inus 50 F up there yesterday. I’ve got pictures at my site and links to other pictures.

Obama got over 70% of the Dem results. Supposedly, Romney got 44% of Alaska GOPers, enought to win, but I haven’t talked to a single Republican who voted for him. They had a “Presidential Preference Poll.” You went to a place, entered your choice on the screen, it acknowledged your input, and you left. At one place, the Ron Paul people hung around all night to see the results. Over 50 people had voted for Paul, but the results on the computer showed six.

What the heck’s going on with the weather in HI?

Oh Lent & what to do. First I was aware of it was when I saw Congresscritters with black smudge on their noggins. Clearly I’m not giving up liquor. Must think of something more nobel.

Margo thanks for the pictures on the wall.. you do great stuff… don’t stop I like them!

Yes we do.

Baking is so exact, NEVER, leave the recipe.

“…frozen peas made the best ice pack.”

They do. But frozen corn kernels would probably work as well. The idea is that (a) they’re frozen, and therefore cold, and (b) they don’t stick to each other too much, so you can mold the pack to the contours of whatever body part needs the cold. Of course, if you use the same bag of frozen peas too many times, the peas eventually turn to mush, and then they’re not good for much except maybe pea paste to use in a bread recipe or something.

Bob in HI

Hey, 35, then 1000. Impressive from any geographic location.

Depends on what your baking. I’ve made some pretty sloppy (I call them rustic) looking apple pies that tasted great!

“Bob, I see it’s your turn to experience the flash flooding…!”

Not yet, but maybe tomorrow? That would not be good, because it is my day to walk to work.

Bob in HI

She is quite the talent.

Thank you nahant!

I do find this true for cheesecakes. And I’ve only baked bread a few times but never veer from the cookbook.

One reason I cook and don’t do much baking except for pies and the occasional cake mix thingy… But when it comes to cooking well thats a whole different story

margot’s eye candy is quite delicious

Over 50 people had voted for Paul, but the results on the computer showed six.

Dang, the RNC is just compelled to tinker with the vote, eh? I wasn’t denigrating the turnout, I remember how vast and sparse the population is…!

Oh, bread. I love to make braided bread with anise seeds. mmmm.

“…Must think of something more nobel.”

Well, good luck with that. But what the heck, go for it!
I’m setting my sights somewhat lower. Like a modest daily reading program.

Bob in HI

Christine, if you could only have ONE of your cookbooks, which would it be?

nothing smells better than home baked bread just out of the oven

My oven repair guy told me that those oven thermometers that you buy in the supermarket are worthless. The best oven thermometer is a cake mix. If it doesn’t bake in the prescribed time, something’s wrong.

Now here’s the business model: igniters (for gas ovens) are made badly & need to be replaced frequently. Just like computer printer mfgrs profits come from ink.

the most sublime dining experience I ever had in France was chez Michel Bras in L’Aguiole (pays d’Aubrac).

TV was just saying that 5″ an hour is falling on the Windward side and North Shore and a Flood advisory was in effect…

Sounds like some of my attempts…! Not pretty, but, tasty!

“Baking is so exact, NEVER, leave the recipe.”

Oh, pooh. How BORING! Baking is like anything else: to do it well, you need lots of reps. Do something enough times, and the inner logic of it becomes familiar. Then you only need to glance at the recipe every now and then to make sure you haven’t forgotten something, or to make sure you’re doing things in the right order. Like making bread, for example. Paying attention to the texture of the dough is a lot more important than sticking precisely to the measurements. My Mother always improvised, with bread and soup especially. I used to do it often enough to learn the ropes with bread, but never got much good with soup. But I’m rusty with the bread making. (No, we did NOT use a bread-maker.)

Bob in HI

I would have to say Elizabeth David’s French Provincial Cooking, that today I would NEVER recommend. Why? It taught me to look at ingredients in a new way, and I was so naieve. Now, the best cook book is Cook’s Illustrated.

Hi punaise! So I check your link and see something with a ‘liquid chocolate center’ that had a link that says ‘recipe’. So I click and get this! Bookmarked to my Cooking Folder, can’t wait to explore. God, I love the intertubes!

Hmmm, my relatively new gas stove(1 yro) might need it… A recent batch of Brownies weren’t up to par…

Absolutely agreed. I can do some baking, but omg it’s tough. Cooking is soo much easier..a bit of this, a bit of that, stir in some more, try a little of that YUM YUM YUM.

Yay! Sorry I’m a bit slow, though. Multitasking before I go to bed…

Paying attention to the texture of the dough is a lot more important than sticking precisely to the measurements.

Good point!

Its all in the apples… my favorite is mixing Mac Intosh and granny smiths, cook them with a little orange juice and spice to taste… Mom’s recipe, I use the apple pie as enticements to get number two son and his girl friend over to dinner…

Ditto…I love looking at your work!

“TV was just saying that 5″ an hour is falling on the Windward side and North Shore and a Flood advisory was in effect…”

Ah! Well, of course I’m on the Leeward side (Honolulu), and we almost always get less. You guys dried out yet?

Bob in HI

I think my favorite everyday book would have to be the newly revised Joy of Cooking. It would be hard, though, to give up my cookbooks. I’ve got four 3′ shelves of them.

Since yesterday was mardi gras (posted once before)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..chive.html

enjoy!

(btw linky no worky)

Soup is one of the easiest to make so long as you don’t overdo the spices, you can “doctor it up”… My adage is ” if I don’t like you don’t get it… “

Applesauce is the same way. If you get the right apples (best to use at least 2 kinds), you don’t need sugar.

You rang?

(best Lurch voice)

You guys dried out yet?

Only if it holds off for a couple of days, or rather, a month or two… *g*

WD, I’ve got shelves of them too, and we at work talk all time about food and recipes. I have many favorites, and love Cook’s Illustrated.

Well poo. Ok, everyone go to punaise’s link and scroll down for the chocolate thing with recipe link.

or

http://video.google.com/videop…..;plindex=1

kirk, is it acceptable to use 4 200mg OTC Motrin in place of the rx 800mg?

Damn, thought you got caught in the refrigerator.

Betty Crocker has never let me down, however, I do have a sizable collection myself…!

I’ll have to check into Cook’s Illustrated, I don’t have that one.

Key is whether temp is too low, caused by too long a time between when thermostat sends signal & igniter ignites. If temp is too high, it’s a different problem.

Sorry Suz,
Am I way OT? It is so late that I must leave. Help?

Too low is my prob…

Are you a master baker?

Ha!

off topic is the topic on all late nite threads – tis encouraged

sorry, that should have been all late late nite threads, christine e

Igniter is probably the solution. My repair guy (very funny person most interested in his business) carries several score in his repair truck.

No, it was just another conversation we were having about multipying OTC ibuprofin to get the same benifits as the 800 mg prescription stuff. Biodun’s possibly sprained his ankle trying to save the laptop when he fell.

Well in that case…
Cold where you are? About 55 here.

Through parental heritage, marriage, and where I was born… Covers all those three bases…*g* After the 3rd session of ice, ankle is feeling better. In another 30-45 mins. or so I’ll go beddy-bye (I’m watching a Without a Trace rerun right now on TNT), and I’ll take the 800 mil ibruprofen before I do that.

So here’s my point, eCAHN: You’ll have to fly 2 and a half three hours to Minneapolis, take a cab to my place in downtown to break my other ankle. You also have to know my code to get to my loft…*g*

I would barely qualify myself as a baker, I manage tho… Now, Cooking I receive hearty praise from all comers, my Mom and Grandma to boot!

Thanks, Suz,
Off to bed soon. See you on FB.

38.1 here and dropping with clear skies at the 627′ elevation of the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods, nahant

I’m going to try that link I found at punaise’s link again. This time the main page, you’ll have to navigate it yourselves.

GourmetVoyageurs

So which accent prevails?

OK, that’s better.

G’nite, Christine.

I became a good cook and a great baker because we were so poor! After graduate school, and two babies, it was, like, make your own ketchup!

Hey, everything’s possible for NYCers. Or at least we think so. Your code is you soc sec #. Off to google biodun.

prends bien soin de ta cheville, Biodun…

Cool, tomatoes and vinegar…! ;-)

You called??

The recipe

just responding to your question about temps

BTW, mini-tsunami in mid-Hudson. Water table above basement floor. Sump pump & dehydrator working overtime.

A mixture of all. I definitely do not have a conventional American accent. So I get all kinds of accent guesses from people: British, some French, some West Indian, rarely Nigerian. My parents were Nigerians by birth. Basically I grew up in NYC. I went to high school there.

Someone told me that the answer to that routine question (complicated for me) “Where’re you from?” can simply be answered by where you went to high school: Those are your formative years. Nowmy example of that: When I was in high school, I read in a NYTimes fashion piece: “Black is the only color for NYC.” I’ve been wearing black ever since…

Apologies for the elaboration answering a question, but you’all said these night threads are pretty much open.

This year I’m going to teach myself to can. I have tomato seeds for Costoluto, Black Krim, Persimmon, Brandywine and Speckled Roman. All organic and non-hybrid.

kirk, is it acceptable to use 4 200mg OTC Motrin in place of the rx 800mg?

sorry for delayed reply – I’m moving really carefully in the kitchen…

I don’t know what to think about the 800 mg Motrin vs 200 x 4. I do know patients who – after running out of the 800 – subsituted “2 x 4″ fully expecting equal relief, yet were surprised to find less effective relief.

I do know that – regardless of the dose – motrin and the other NSAIDS (as well as asprin) can cause big time stomach lining irritation unless taken with food (even a few crackers are far better than an empty stomach).

I’m just ignorant about the binderas and other agents in 800 vs 2 x 4 – I wonder if alias coud tell us?

In general with the NSAID’s/asprin

- patients taking lithium need to know these drugs can increase lithium levels big time. Not a big issue in someone with a chronic disease who takes teh same NSAID dose every day (assuming the original LI dose was adjusted while on the same NSAID dose); can be very risky for someone on Lithium who sudenly adds the NSAID/asprin to their meds.

- these drugs decrease platelet agreagation and thus make bleeding last longer. Not ususally an issue – but if you have a scheduled surgery/invasive preocdure, checkk with the med team to see if they want the NSAID/asprin stopped a few days befoe the procedure.

[Oh - BTW - the above is not areason just to sitch over to acetoaminophen (Tylenol). The difference between the theraputic dose and the fatal dose (the theraputic index) is not large - for some folks the dose of two extra strength (500 mg) tylenol per day is not healthy for their livers.

Again – this is all general info. Anyone who is taking the meds prescrribed by their doc or NP or RN – please check with them before making any changes.

I got a toothache just reading it…! ;-)

Oh god yes, heavy cream AND butter!

and here i was thinking it was a johnny cash kinda thing… the man in black

twas not I it was
newtonusr February 6th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
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In response to Suzanne @ 133

Well in that case…
Cold where you are? About 55 here.

I will have to go look at the recipe, but I think it also includes brown sugar, and molasses, and coffee, and such…

thank you kirk

oh crap, nevermind nahant i read it as you and not newton

and my apologies to newton

Tylenol is something I will NEVER TAKE. I’ve lost 3 friends to it.

Oui merci. On verra demain, pres huit heures du matin… je vais me couche bientot, mais dans l’intervalle, un peu de vin rouge d’abord… *G*

Mahalo, Biodun! I’ve dual citizenship myself, Canadian and American, certainly not as neopolitan as yourself, but, I went to HS in Hawaii! *g*

Your wish is my command!

Suz as always it is just fine… just checking if you were on your toes tonight :>) Hows Token? Keeping you warm….

Coffee? Surely you jest…

Oh, canning’s fun :-)

That stuff freaking scares me (tylenol). I won’t use it, I won’t let my friends use it…

token is looking gorgeous (but like a dog instead of token) – he got his beard trimmed way back at the groomers yesterday. on the other hand, he smells wonderful and his fur is so soft.

I’ve always been hesitant. Botulism, y’know?

I lost 42% of my stomach to ibuprofin back in 1994. Goddam VA doctor gave me prescriptions for 1,00-pill bottles of the stuff for my back and neck. They came in plain VA pharmacy bottles with no warnings or instructions whatsoever. Damn near killed me. I stay away from pain killers these days unless totally necessary.

OTOH, I find it impossible to gain weight.

The most assinine thing someone ever told me, in defense of Tyleno, was that aspirin upset their tummy. I told them you get over that, not so much an upset liver.

i used to make jams and jellies but haven’t done so in a good 2 decades

Tucker goes to the beauty parlor on the 14th and he comes home looking and smelling great! During the rain he sure does get that doggy smell :>( Will send picts after his appointment…

my computer stopped talking to my digital camera (or perhaps it is visa versa – its so hard to tell) so i’ve not been able to take any pictures and post them.

OK, I will be going to bed in a few (as Jane would say), but I wanted to say this (and maybe this is the red wine talking at almost 2 AM CT): I’m so glad I discovered FDL in 2006; Jane has been so supportive of me the past three weeks; you guys have been about my ankle tonight. And I simply: Love you all…Bonne nuit….

bonne nuit, biodun

Oh shit! It’s 2 in the morning. I gotta go to bed, too. Biodun, it’s great having you here!

g’nite wangdang

G’nite everyone.

g’nite eCAHN

que les bras de Morphee t’accueille

Try a different port for the camera connection, you should have more than 1 USB ports and or try a new cable for the camera, just me being the computer DR

Tomatos are very acidic and easy to work with. Jams, the sugar content also makes it easy to do. Just follow the instructions you get carefully and eat what you can within a year or two. (It can add up, I had some stuff I realized was five years old already. So label label label, too ;-).

Yes exactly. And it’s scary how many people think nothing of combining alcohol with any of these in general *headdesk*

Hmmm… I was just timed out of FDL… When I was bidding adieu to Biodun… Anybody else?

(I’m still up.) I’m going to start with water bath and work my way up to pressure canner. I want to do green beans and they are low acid.

And Tylenol… I drink too much to ever take it. But you don’t really even have to drink alot for it to really f you up.

And Happy Birthday, petwrecker, where ever you are!

OK, now I’m really going to bed.

tech crew is doing some work tonight – may be a few hiccups

Yep, crashed on me.

Really, really going to bed…

No time outs…but I’m getting random database errors on different things.

But it’s beddy bye time for me, almost midnight. So take care y’all, sleep well, stay dry, warm, cool, whatever is best for you ;-)

Aloha, WDD! And eCAHN and any others I missed…

g’nite pb and any other leaving sleepy pups i may have missed

Nite, PB!

“The most assinine thing someone ever told me, in defense of Tyleno, was that aspirin upset their tummy.”

Well, for OTC, I get Tylenol or nothing, because I’m on a blood thinner (Rat poison or, if you need the medical name, coumadin). So, no Advil, no Ibuprofen, no aspirin. Fortunately, I don’t usually need anything stronger.

Bob in HI

G’nites y’all. Got a meeting in five hours.

on espere ca…pendant trois heures seulement...*g* reves doux a toi, mon vieux…

Five hours, eh? How much of that to drive to it…? Aloha!

Woo-hoo, I’ve an empty nest tonite, the munchkins are spending the nite at friends’ houses… Wifey-poo and I will have no interruptions… *g*

On that note, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

g’nite CT

Heya Suz. *waves*

I’m finally feeling halfway decent today. Left work early because we had a nasty blizzard on the way, plus they said i was still looking a bit wan. But i’m eating solid foods again, and sleeping fairly normally. All in all, a good deal better than sunday.

have fun, CT!

good dreams, pups – and goodnight!

(ps – gladto see the news about tylenol (avoid savewhen required medically) is out….)

and can’t wait to use my late uncles’ steam pressure canner – look forward to learning how from y’all!

excellent news, alias – happy dance

you caught me on my way out the door. g’nite all

Good news… plenty of chicken soup (home made) helps the healing

nite suzanne

Well in that case good night to all you good fire pups!

nite nahant
this rwc resident bailing out, too. nite all

Baked Potato tonight. soft and heavy. My stomach pretty much told me outright today that soup wasn’t enough. I had it digested within an hour and it was growling for more. That’s usually when i know i’m on the mend. My rediculous metabolism reasserts itself. I haven’t had anything filling for almost 4 days, therefore the quick use of the soup.

Okaaay, France, foodies, Alice Waters…

If y’all haven’t discovered him and wanna let your fantasies flow, check out
David Liebovitz’ blog. Worked for Waters for years, writes cookbooks, moved to Paris and food blogs. He’s where I go when the political stuff gets overwhelming (often).

http://www.davidlebovitz.com/

Granny Smiths and Macs is the combo my Cooks Illustrated book recs. GS for texture, Macs for flavor (they say Macs alone tend to melt too much).

Not only the telcos

Yet another U.S. corporation needs retroactive immunity for cooperatively aiding our current Republican administration: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..sec-nation

Guess what, gang? I just got up…that sprained ankle seems to be gone! I got two hours sleep. Now making breakfast. An FDL miracle perhaps? As we say in French: Incroyable! Vraiment incroyable!

Merci a tous!

excellent news