Peggy Noonan’s "idiots" gave her the finger last night.
But the night buoyed Mr. Huckabee, who had been all but written off in recent weeks after his cash-starved candidacy struggled in the wake of his surprise victory in the Iowa caucuses. He defied expectations on Tuesday by winning contests in Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Georgia, the biggest Southern state to vote Tuesday. He and Mr. McCain were locked in a tight race in Missouri, a key winner-take-all state.
I’m really surprised that an evolution-denying, gay-hating, Confederate flag-loving, sexist former Baptist Minister who’s Chuck Norris’ BFF is doing so well in the South. Guess the fried chicken thing worked!
In Georgia, Tennessee and Missouri, half or more of the Republican primary voters described themselves as evangelical or born-again Christians, and in those states Mr. Huckabee, a former Baptist preacher, got about 4 in 10 of their votes.
As we’ve been told again and again, the religious right’s supposed influence on the GOP is a creation of the liberal media.
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Woo hoo!
Just took a look at Huckabee’s lawn sign. Would it be fair to summarize that his slogan is “F you”?
Hiya Blue Texan…
Democrats For Squirrels, UNITE!
Idiots For Huck!
I’m gonna have a button made!
An email I sent out this morning, copied for your post-Tuesday pleasure.
Oh man.
I spent the AM listening to the Glenn Beck show, post-Super Tuesday.
If you didn’t listen to right-wing radio this AM, you missed some
great schadenfreude. Put it this way: it started with Beck saying
that conservatives have three choices now: ”to park the car in the
garage with the engine running; to try to understand just HOW this
happened; or to rally round McCain like a bunch of good little
puppets– AND I’M NOT GONNA DO THAT!!!”
then there was a diatribe about how Beck had been ”so wrong” about
George W. Bush being a conservative, listing W’s crimes against the
party in a voice that grew louder and louder with every bullet point,
until he was practically shrieking.
After a brief rant about midgets (apparently, by beck’s own account,
he melted down on CNN last night), Beck went on an uninterrupted 15
minute rant about ”what I believe as a conservative”. When I pulled
into the parking lot at work 20 minutes ago (now about an hour ago, ed), he was still going and
for all I know he’s STILL losing his marbles. The best part was that
nothing he said made sense. It was like listening to one of those
crazy derelict people that walk through Philadelphia having intense
angry conversations with someone who only exists in their imagination.
He was like the crazy cat lady from the Simpsons, or my kid having a
temper tantrum..
I am SO excited to listen to Hannity this evening on the way home. It
is going to be even better.
It warms the cockles of my black little heart to see the Fundies at each others throats.
Shorter Glenn Beck: I’ve been wrong about everything.
Look at Missouri as the bellwether that we are told it is. The three GOP-ers split damn near even.
McCain’s strength has been in blue states, Romney has taken the libertarian states and Huckabee is lock on most of the bible belt.
The GOP is fracturing at the base.
-G
Hey BT!
And this fellow could be the next R VP candidate. VP to a 71 yr old with serious health issues.
The scary time is when they go quiet. Or when there is so much noise (e.g., the primaries/caucuses) that it provides cover for BushCo. That’s a goodie that wakens me in the middle of the night. What are those weasels up to?
Send me one.
You funny.
You betcha.
We also know that the Southern Baptists won’t vote for a Mormon in significant numbers.
Another GOP talking point busted all to hell.
-G
EPU’d from downstairs:
I think that the new president will be able to appoint a whole new FCC board. They will then need Senate confirmation, but that will be no problem, right?
Kinda reminds me of myself, you know I am seriously pissed off when I shut up.
That means I am plotting and stewing.
Hell, I’d make a GREAT Fundie by that standard!
LMAO.
My hometown (not my current home) voted almost 50% for Huck, sounds like the preachers all got together and ‘encouraged’ folks to vote that way.
I heard he had surgery recently and it went bad could he be zonked on pain meds or is he always like this?
Kudlow, Tucker, and Tweety are the GOPers I track I know very little about Beck because my stomach couldn’t take watching another GOPer even if it is only once a week or so.
Beck is crazy.
Next question.
Well, also his surgery could have confused him. After all, it was on his thinking organ…
In Athens it fell this way but we are not typical of gooberville
Candidates Votes
Rudy Giuliani 57
Mike Huckabee 1,847
Duncan Hunter 7
Alan Keyes 12
John McCain 2,437
Ron Paul 412
Mitt Romney 2,176
Tom Tancredo 2
Fred Thompson 27
So yer tellin us his show was just the same as anyother day right?
I’m thinking you’re right. Amazing how many things that are relatively under the radar have a huge impact on us.
So, if Obama is The One, with whom should he surround himself to make him BPP (best possible president)? Thing is, the bar is now so low that who(m)ever we elect is going to look mahvelous, dahlings. Simplistic, but basically true.
OOOHHH, right in the middle of drinking coffee. That was close!
Nuckles the Fundie? Hoo boy. LMAO, too.
I saw that Missouri Pie Chart last night and cracked up.
Sorry! I should have put in a snark tag or spew alert, I guess.
Going downstairs for a fresh cuppa…. anyone need a warm up?
I’ve been trying to imagine what’s going on in the Cheney camp. Who are they blaming for this disaster? Rove? They expected Thompson to be a shoo-in. Someone made a big misjudgement on that one. Who pushed him into the race? Again, was it Rove?
When that didn’t work out, they put a lot of energy behind Romney. They lined up all the right-wing media nutjobs the Cheney daughter did the morning shows, they leaked some bad stories about McCain (my fave was that he is NOT someone who should have his finger on the button) and they bashed him 24/7. And the only thing it accomplished was to make Huck a contender.
Honest-to-God, it warms my heart.
True but Peggy Noonan thinks that we Dems are divided because woman prefer Hilary and Obama got only around 30%? of the Hispanic vote.
I can’t think of a single Dem who would rather vote for a GOPer than Hilary or Obama. Unlike say Ann Coulter who hates McCain that much.
But since Bush is at 30% at least 20% of the GOP vote from the last election is siding with us on the issues. Another 5% and we would have half the former GOP vote from the last presidential election.
Why does anyone listen to Peggy?
(sure Bush won by at least 51% but I don’t trust any numbers from Ohio or Florida)
Poor GOP-ers are melting like that frigging cake in MacArthur Park.
I imagine Limbaugh will be taking the shiv to McCain’s kidney once again today.
As for Blech, he’s pretty nuckin futs. It is going to be fun, fun, fun watching how they GOP-ers try to step away from Bush, while Bush’s goons try to enforce loyalty, and how they try to patch shit together before the general elections.
-G
OOOH, please… [holds out empty cup]
Do The Huckabuck!
Live by the Fundies, die by the Fundies (heh). The GOP sold their soul and now the bill is coming due.
Let’s see… Ann Coulter has already said she’ll campaign for Hillary if McCain gets the nod. Dobson has said he’s not going to vote for McCain. Who do you think he’s gonna campaign for? This could turn into a fun game — pick the Democrat your favorite wingnut will campaign for.
The reverse midas touch. They have NO credibility left. If they say one thing people will pretty much do the opposite.
It will be fun digging through all of the media jagoff’s words the last 7 years and shove them down their metaphorical throats as they try to claim that Bush is ‘liberal’.
-G
Funny..Welcome to the Lake
I think the R “model” only worked thru W’s apparent good-ole-boy personality & 9/11. I think the Rs have no clue as to what they’re doing in prez politics (not to mention everything else), and now that’s becoming apparent (just like their incompetence in other areas became obvious earlier).
Alan Keyes???!!! Twelve people voted for Alan Keyes???!!!
HA!
I was so much happier when McCain had been written off.
A McCain-Huckabee ticket gives me gas, but that may actually be better than the little Rove protogee McCain is more likely to run with.
The only signs I saw at my MO polling place were for Alan Keyes.
Go figure.
Oh, lordy, you must be as old as I am!
The dems will all support Hill because they have learned that letting and R in is going to be more disaster. It may be a hold your nose and vote, but they won’t let 00 or 04 happen again.
And the dem will win handily. But then the shit will hit the fan and the wonks will have to step in a grab the con and issue some very radical new policies or else the ship will go under.
Lot’s of pain, some accountability and a new direction with more constitution, less lobbyists, more democracy and hopefully a lot smaller military sucking us dry.
The fun starts after the party. Then it’s wake up time for america.
From Kos poster KagroX:
“Everyone hates Bush, and they literally cannot wait for his presidency to be over. Any symbolic step they can take toward pushing him out of the White House and out of their minds can’t come soon enough for them.”
From hero to zero.
Anyone wanna place bets on how few people watch Bush’s speech at the GOP convention? Or if he even gives one?
-G
Morning eCAHN and pups,
An (R) friend called last night to complain that some of his neighbors voted for Ghouliani and he needed to know who to complain to.
Predict tons ‘o fun ahead.
I just posted this on Glenn Greenwald’s blog, but since I put a lot of work into it, I thought I would cross-post here. Very good news, in my opinion.
Link:http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/05/terrorism/permalink/efd3d6467a88d844d3ae4f6d2f71a7e4.html
Redstate voter turnout says an awful lot.
-G
We are witnessing a very a real schism in the Republican Party. It really may not survive this.
The R’s are seeing the end at least as the GOP. It will splinter into fundie R’s, Military R’s, Greedy R’s who are no longer able to get in bed together.
The Dems may become the WE party and focus on jobs, health, infrastructure and restoring rights the R’s took away. They need to do some trust busting and focus on the environment and energy solutions.. all good for the economy and people.
Can the Fed too. Restore the dollar. Cancel Nafta and pay all sorts of reparations by taxing the uber wealthy … Exxon and Chevron and MicroSoft and their CEOs. Time to pay up fellas.
Wall Street was wrong.
nah dude, he’s been recovered since early this week.
He wa in full on rant. There was a great segment where he was going on and on about ”legal darwinism”, somethign about judges passing laws that make it legal to feed mcdonalds supersized meals to obese people? I swear I am not making it up, it had nothing to do with anything.
I need to creat a log-in at his site to download the most recent show. I don’t know if I have the stomach for that… oh who am i kidding, I have three or four different emails, of COURSE I’ll log in.
But no, it wasn’t the meds: it was full on rage.
I don’t believe he gives one.
I do think that both Clinton and Obama need to start tying Bush around the necks of the Republican candidates on every issue. I think HRC said, last night, that election of a Republican would be a 3rd Bush term. I think all Democratic house and senate candidates really need to imphasize Bush and the rubber stamp Republicans.
Good morning, bjnts.
What Rudy on the R ballot in NYS?
All the D candidates were still on the ballot.
This young man does a good job describing how Huckabee makes me feel.
R’s are toast me thinks. It will be like watching the shuttle explode and float to earth in pieces.
Why are we not seeing a repeat of the poll we saw in an early primary/caucus? The one that showed a large number of people were “angry” at Bush. That was an interesting look at where the country lies, but I’ve not seen such a poll repeated.
With 94% reporting in AZ
McCain – 213,461
Romney – 154,071
Huckabee – 40,497
Paul – 19160
Rudy – 12,158
Thompson – 8,633
Hunter – 944
Keyes (Alan) – 794
Lots if independents showed up at the polls to vote but this was a closed primary. Registration is growing in the Dem column but we have been pretty evenly divided D/R/I
Thanks 1000 times for posting that.
Thanks for that.
I think the Rs don’t yet understand the tsunami that’s going to drown them. They have some clues, but are not really aware.
One example, Tony Blankley on WJ this morning talked about turnout on the D side & lack thereof on the R side (especially in connection with Huckabee success) as a “problem,” not as a disaster for the Rs.
The trouble with creating your own reality is that yo come to believe it’s so.
Watch for the most relentless and massive Repub GOTV effort ever. We may need to have Dem block wardens. Well, that and a little wiretapping.
Howard Dean has been framing it as third Bush term. Perhaps we can join in on that mantra.
-G
BT, maybe I am mistaken. If the debates are any preview, they are disappearing Chimpy pretty well.
well, he’s always nuts, but in the wake of McCain’s Tuesday wins, he just went completely off the rails. Literally gibbering like someone in an asylum. Or the Cat Lady.
it was awesome. I mean, he advocated that conservatives’ first choice in response to a mccain victory is to commit suicide.
And pardon the link to his sewer, but he put up a spoof picture of himself inhaling carbon monoxide.
Can’t wait for Limbaugh: he’s been plugging Romney for weeks!
Seeing the Huckster on TV has made me curious. Is he short or is his wife tall?
Are you saying you were happy when astronauts lost their lives in that tragedy?
SanderO I like your worldview.
Soak the rich!
Excellent (the third Bush term). George Bush, Part III. Don’t see it alone!
Hell no, but the analogy is a slo mo destruction as the R’s watch with open mouths in disbelief.
If it was Ronald Reagan he would give one.
If you don’t know how to do it then you’re out of luck
Old? Maybe I’ve just seen too many bad presidents in my life!
Sangemon, it’s “Eat the Rich”!
Republics thought there would be no consequences for them having forced George W. Bush on this nation. It’s funny watching them come to grips with the consequences.
Gotta call him back today, but my sides are hurtin from laughing.
Just meant knowing that song.
Oh, yeah, baby!
Hitler to McCain’s Hindenburg. God save us.
The is no way anyone could be stupid enough to mean that. Is there?
They are, but we shouldn’t let them. They don’t mention his name, but advocate double Gitmo, 100-year war, wealty taxbreak curall, and anti-science policies.
Engage him in a general conversation about the state of the R party, and report back if you get any new insights as to what they’re thinking of doing about it. “Know thine enemy.”
Nothing surprises me.
It was a poor analogy imo and I’ll leave it at that.
at best
I thought I’d watch Beck today but I can’t find his show. What time is he on? My guide isn’t showing him at all.
I remember it, too. Thanks for the laugh.
it is quite possible mccain can save the republican party by reclaiming it for concervatives and sending “the base” on their way
IF he wins the presidency, and THEN says to the bible belt;
STFU
if he tells them in no uncertain terms, stem cell research is NOT murder, if he tells them they don’t have to believe in gay marriage they just have to live with others who do, if he tells them they can teach their magic in religous schools but public schools will teach evolution in science class
THEN he might reclaim the concervative party and they might survive the onslaught from the neo fascists who highjacked the party
is it gonna happen?
not unless he reads the lake and hires me as his policy maker
It will be more like watching the breakup of the labor movement, other blue collar working people, African-Americans, intellectuals, Jewish people, and catholics that used to make up the Democratic majority. Now we just have to figure how to keep their coalitions broken and sustain new Democratic coalitions.
perris you wouldn’t!
One note: The breakup of the labor movement had a lot of help from the Rs. The breakup of the Rs is entirely self-generated.
perris on policy has a certain ring to it.
Meanwhile:
*8 army officers die in Paksitani helicopter crash.
*Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud declares ceasefire in Pakistan.
*Large explosion rocks eastern Somalia.
*Hamas claims responsibility for Dimona suicide bombing as Israel escalates blockade of Gaza.
*France considering military support in Chad.
-G
I can’t help thinking without those funny old touch screen voting machines and other election fraud methods that have been either replaced or are under scrutiny in many places, SOMEone’s election plans might have been thwarted! And radio just said, here in San Diego, that the counting of the paper ballots didn’t take long long hours as warned or threatened.
Of course the high turnout made a huge difference but sure nice to know the old fill in the bubble with a pen ballot still works– and it felt so good to do it and not have to use the touch screen that is always hard to read. Hooray Debra Bowen!
At the risk of sounding like a spoiler, I think the joyous celebrations of the repubs’ demise are waaay too early…there’s been a lot of planning,since Reagan era to think that it’s the end.
I do think that both Clinton and Obama need to start tying Bush around the necks of the Republican candidates on every issue.
Absolutely goddam right.
With a bowling ball.
morning friends! just thought some of you might want to know that the congressional weekly hearings list is back from vacation.
Chimpy being all ego and bully, who is gonna tell him not to make the convention speech?
uh.
Ever hear of mataphor?
selise – very impressive site!!!
bookmarking that
I agree, although I think the labor movement breakup also involved some complexities which corresponded, to some extent, with the “Reagan Democrat” phenomenon.
Yea, a mataphor, that’s a guy that fights bulls, just like we fight bullshit here on the lake.
What a yutz.
Metaphor.
Sorry.
I agree boogiecheck. If McCain picks Huck as vp, a lot of the fundies will come back. But that won’t appease the talking heads. Their affection for the fundies was never real.
Ding Ding Ding Ding!
That’s funny, Raven
This will be fun to watch develop.
And if W does end up giving a convention speech, watch it on CSPAN. Their videographers go out of their way to find audience members who are sleeping, picking their noses, looking bored.
that’s just the old site… i just took a vacation from making the weekly list, while working on something else (not to worry, you’ll see it soon *g*)
Tryin to keep it loose around here.
Howsabout the Hindenburg as a softer methaphor?
Oh, the humanity!!!
What’s a Meta for?
Well, it’s bloody well about time! A little respite from the pundits talking about political game plans.
Did anyone see scar walk off the show today? Somebody @ Kos had a diary about it, iirc.
Breakup of labor movement involved many factors, including severe self-inflicted wounds owing to incompetent leaders, being in dying industries, etc. All I meant was that there was also an outside force, unlike the Rs, who are destroying themselves from within.
why a duck.
You’ve just described Huck and his supporters; evolution-denying, gay-hating, Confederate flag-loving, sexist… I’m not surprised, I’m disgusted.
methaphor
Shit, now I’m thinking of crank labs.
I found Glenn Beck. My cable provider stuck Headline News on channel 1903. Too bad. No one’s going to see him.
Jello Jay up on CSPAN2 arguing against Feingold’s amendment outlawing blanket warrants.
With “friends” like this…
P.S. How would anyone ever know if Sherrod Brown was having a “hoarse” day?
What happened to Joey?
-G
yeah, sorry about that. it wasn’t supposed to last so long, i just got lazy.
OT
Sen Ben Nelson wants U.S. troops to attack Waziristan (in Pakistan). With Ds like that, who needs Rs?
More & Better.
Collins up on DOD hearing. Why does she talk so funny?
Another meanwhile it is back to dancing with the stars & American Idol
- ISM index tracks activity in the service sector when it falls below 50 indicates a decline in the service sector. Yesterday, the index dropped to a very low 41.
- Mac and cheese sales spike
- Dow Plunges 370 Points
- Pawn Shops Prosper As Economy Tanks
Robert Gates on C-span.
What the heck, throw in Iran and Syria too.
The US military can do anything!
-G
Or a ‘bad hair’ day.
Senator Kit Bombed (R-MO) up…
nothing to report really, I just wanted to float my new nickname for the esteemed Senator from Missouri…
Thanks selise
Gates sez we’re winning in Afghanistan & there are no more Taliban left in Afghanistan.
Will anyone point out that his pants are on fire? Heh.
I like it. How on earth is he up before noon on the day after Fat Tuesday?
The US military can do anything!
except, maybe, stopping Turkey from bombing northern Iraq.
I mean, that’s *our* job, right?
Sorry, selise -
I wasn’t fussing at you….it has just seemed like there has been a dearth of hearings since they got back to DC and Dog knows, lady, you certainly deserve a break. It’s a valuable service you provide on which I’ve come to depend.
{{{smooches}}}
How on earth is he up before noon on the day after Fat Tuesday?
Hangovers only occur when one *stops* drinking?
I agree. I know you know more than I do, but I’m starting to think that some mounting pressure from Democrats for at least some semi protectionist policies, might be advisable both as an economic policy and, politically, to bring back some portion of the remaining blue color electorate. You’ve explained the free trade vs. protectionist delimma to me before, but it would seem like some pressure for measures favored by people like Byron Dorgan might begin to put healthy restraints on random expansion of free trade policies.
Is that the side kick? I didn’t see it happen; just read about it @ Kos. If true, may he stay gone forever!
Gates sez NATO allies aren’t stepping up in Afghanistan. Geez, I wonder why that might be.
i didn’t think you were fussing – i just took it as a kinda complement that you missed it. hugs and smooches back at you!
There can be little doubt that when the GOP finally selects their candidate they will rally around him. Their ideological differences will be forgotten in the interest of holding on to the executive branch. Beck, Limbaugh, Ingram, et al will be touting the merits of the candidate and smearing the Democratic candidate. Given the ignorance of a large segment of the voting electorate they will be successful in demonizing the Democrat and lauding the Republican. The MSM will undoubtebly be carrying water for the Republican Party so to relish the apparent divisions in the Republican Party is premature and unwise. Never underestimate them. They will do anything to win.
Obama speech live on MSNBC
Republicans live in fantasyland. It’s no wonder they have mega conniption fits when reality manages to poke a little hole in the bubble.
Framing tip: Don’t use the word “protectionist” when talking about international trade. Fair trade rather than free trade seems like a good framing & involves measures to treat labor & environment fairly.
That leaves a whole host of things that can be done in the actual agreements.
They need to start tying the albatross of Bush AND Herbert Hoover around the necks of the Republicans.
marcy is live blogging fisa debate on the senate floor… sorry for the drive by, but the senate fisa debate calls me.
Al Sadr is under pressure to end his cease fire in Iraq.
February 23rd is cited as the day of decision. If he continues the cease fire he will announce, if he says nothing, that means the cease fire will lapse with his blessing.
-G
Russ up
Yeah, but the level of enthusiam & thus voter turnout, will not be large. We have buckets full of evidence of that in the primaries, so I think it’s not a stretch to project that to the general.
Understand.
Did any of y’all notice the the priority listing of “F’s” on huck’s sign? ‘Bout says it all.
squirrels for mccain?
and don’t forget St. Ronnie, who singlehandedly moved the country from the worlds greatest creditor nation to the worlds greatest debtor nation in less than his first administration. Get the linkies yourselves, this is from memory(x).
As November nears the thought of any Democrat winning the WH will be all the motivation they need. The money will start flowing and don’t forget they have the MSM in their pockets.
No, I agree. To use a George Bush type colloquial phrase, I’d rather kill a piss ant with a sledge hammer than get a nasty surprise.
NATO allies noticed that Bush can’t get anyone from his own family to step up, so why should they?
Its code words…. so was his speech last night…. one code word after another….
Feingold on CSPAN 2
But the GOP is not what it once was. 2006 has sown us that. They pulled out all of the stops—-”San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi is going to leave America open to terrorist attacks”.
They tried all of their old tricks and they didn’t work.
Yes they have a mighty machine and they know how to fight, but they are losing adherents because of their extremism and their tactics for winning elections are to stoke extremism.
So yes they are going to put up a fight, but it is with diminishing returns because of cultural demographic shifts.
-G
You mean this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2F96rCnHg
Just because all the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again doesn’t mean King George’s minions won’t try their best to salvage another stolen victory. They will do everything they can to get their authoritarian followers in line. They will stop at nothing.
These are people, as we well know, with no moral compass and no respect for American traditions. These are people who ran on 9/11 after it happened on their watch. And they won. Or stole another victory. They are able to turn the most challenging and insurmountable circumstances in their favor.
We must be alert at all times. We must help their fractured coalition stay at daggers. We must unite and push hard for the election of our nominee.
I like OKKiddo’s formulation, which goes
We must help the American people imagine this almost-impossibility. Think Bush was bad? McCain will be even worse. Impossible? Not really. A President trying to unite a disparate coalition, two-thirds of which hate him, is guaranteed to be even less of a compassionate conservative than our current loser.
Pass it on.
Tech question, please, for a mod or the MAC knowledgeable out there:
Did the Lake recently add a spell check underline flag to the comments box or is it a new feature for the most current Safari? My guru upgraded me last night and this is the first time I’ve noticed it.
Whichever, it’s wonderful!
selise and pups – i’m cooking again for 2nd night – you and any hungry pups are invited email me at name dot rifkin by way of the comcast net
FFF, isn’t that Satanist code for 666?
Huckabee is the anti-Christ!
-G
McCain speaking on MSNBC – and good god, who’s that stage left? JoeLie just can’t stand getting his lips too far from McCain’s ass, can he?
Safari does have auto spell check. To turn it on or off, it’s in Edit>Spelling>Check spelling as you type
How about this one…..
“John McCain…. more of the same”
Waccamaw @154 it is available in window pc’s using firefox
ewwwww… it’s leiberman AND lindsay
speaking of which, let’s all pitch in to get Punkinhead a decent haircut. on the teevee last night the guy looked like he’d been worked over in a back alley.
The big money is moving toward the Dems this cycle. They see the handwriting on the wall. The R’s are going to not have the catwalk they had before. And if there is a huge D turnout they won’t be able to steal the election.
The D’s are a bit smarter now about e voting, voter suppression and so forth and they are not cash poor. Bushco is going to be more worried about staying out of jail then putting some surrogates in office.
Lieberman is replusive.
Maybe I don’t need a tv in such a hurry after all.
haha, eg!
Poor Tim Pawlenty! He was supposed to be McCain’s running mate, but he couldn’t even deliver his own state of Minnesota for the guy.
Yeah, maybe not. But, if you need rugs, I hear Lindsay’s the person to see. He can get you a great deal!
sounds great!!! count me in!
I’m jumping in without reading everything as I have about six inches of snow to shovel(the sun is out and will melt it down to the concrete if I move quickly). But I got a letter from my very conservative sister who doesn’t follow politics (and I want to be gentle; she just got a cancer diagnosis).
She writes: I have liked everything I’ve heard Huckabee say, so I’m interested in why you consider him a loose cannon. Although we both know that he has no chance at the nomination.
Can you help me compile a quick and sweet list to send back to her?
It is extraordinary that after 16 years of campaigning in California, Hillary Clinton was only able to garner 52% of the Democratic primary vote. Absolutely mind-blowing. She didn’t even win SF — despite the endorsements of our Boy Mayor Gavin Newsom and native daughter Senator Dianne Feinstein.
Hmmmm, interesting. Thankee, darlin’. I don’t remember David doing that. It *was* a major Safari upgrade….like from 2.0.4 to 3.0.4 so I just thought it might be a new feature.
707!
wonderful!
well, off to the mines.
Huckabee wants to amend the US Constitution to conform to the Bible. If your sister doesn’t see a problem with that, AdAstra, I’m confounded how to convince her that his candidacy is profoundly un-American at its core.
AdAstra, nice to see you!
Huckabee list:
1. He isn’t very intelligent
2. He doesn’t know the first thing about foreign policy
3. He’d like to change the Constitution and make it conform with the Bible
Ok people, jump in here.
Hands Teddy a coke
PW-Poor Timmy, ha.
I read a story that folks who’ve known Timmy from way back nicknamed him “Moon”. He would promise the moon & never deliver. Rumor or not, it sounds like the Timmy we know & do not love today.
Thanks, but after hearing about that Carville/Frist SuperBowl ad, I’d rather have a Pepsi, thanks very much dear!
Hmmm. What’s so amusing about the “Not McCain” wing of the Republican party is that, even when they’re down to just two choices, they STILL can’t figure out who they should be FOR. That’s what killed them yesterday. They’re all against McCain, but they can’t agree on who they want to get in bed with: A flip-flopping former Massachusetts governor, or a Southern economic liberal.
In all this DOD budget hearing, no one has asked a Q about contractors. (Was away for a short while, so that may not be literally true, but it’s close.)
Thanks egreg. I think she would sort of like number three, as much as that horrifies me. On a personal level, she will be bothered by the parole issue, if I can frame that right. Wasn’t there something about a confederate flag? That will get her. Bush lost her on Katrina. Also, we’re a mixed race family and she won’t put up with racism. I know she’ll never vote for a Clinton, but we might nudge her to Obama. Or at least have her not vote!
DiFi hasn’t exactly done anything to make progressive voters happy recently, has she. So why pay any attention to her recomondations.
The Hucks first “F” is family….
1. one son hung stray dog to death while a boy scout camp counselor
2. Other son convicted for carrying a gun through TSA security
3. Released a convicted rapist, some really hinky stuff that 60 minutes had on where the rapists when on to rape and murder (?) two more women
4. signed a pledge that wives should be sub servant to their husbands
He talks in code words… look up vertical leadership….
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Veterans not entitled to mental health care, US lawyers argue
Relax, rape is just part of the average workplace environment.
Nothing to see here.
Halliburton gets secret arbitration for woman alleging rape/harrassment.
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Huckabee believes all wives should submit to their husbands
As governor of Arkansas, Huckabee commuted the sentence of a convicted rapist, who went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.
Huckabee destroyed all the records of his terms as governor before leaving office.
Huckabee would outlaw all embryonic stem cell research.
I added a bit there, in bold.
Many otherwise well-meaning conservative folks understand that people read the Bible differently. Many would likewise be upset if SOMEONE ELSE’S view of the Bible was allowed by law or churchly dictate to override their own.
I’m all for keeping church and state separate, but when reaching out to someone like the aforementioned sister who might like to conflate the two, she may understand the problem better if you ask her, “Which church do you think ought to be embedded in the state? And why that one, and not some other?”
That sometimes gets things past the “we’re all good Christians here” mindset.
The list:
-He doesn’t believe in evolution implying he doesn’t support science.
-he doesn’t read the newspaper.
-he ‘got around’ rules forbidding gifts (except for wedding gifts) by registering at a department store for his supporters to buy him things. (Which, of course, is more tacky than anything else).
-He helped cover up a crime his son committed.
-He signed a religious statement agreeing that women should be submissive to men.
-His education is not impressive. And we need a really need to elect someone brilliant.
Is it too early to start speculating on Veep picks? Hillary will pick Obama. She’s done some damage to her relationship with the African-American community, and nothing short of putting Obama at her side is going to fix it. Obama, on the other hand, will pick someone who can help him build bridges to the Latino community. Richardson comes to mind, but he’d be better off with someone with a strong military background. Any ideas? McCain appears to have already made some sort of deal with Huckabee, and he’s going to need Huck on his ticket to hold onto the South. Those primary vote counts should scare the hell out of the Republican party. If they have to fight for Arkansas, Alabama, and Georgia, they’re toast.
Excellent point, Peterr, thank you.
And I’ll thank you again, as I did on the thread when you went abed last night, for all your hard charting work last night to keep pups happy with updated primary and caucus results.
I missed the JoeScar dustup that someone referred to. And I can’t find anything at Kos. Anyone here see it?
I like Wes Clark as Obama’s Veep. He brings extraordinary military service to bear, countering McCain somewhat, as well as bridge-building with the Clinton wing of the party. I also like Bill Richardson on an Obama ticket, but his primary performance was really sub-par.
Critters are intimidated by the MIC and men in uniforms. So they won’t ask the tough questions.
Why do we need all the crap they are asking for? What are we getting in real world terms?
What will happen is we don’t spend this money on defense. Lay it out for us Sec Def. What happens to America if we tell you NO? How will it happen? Lay it out dude.
This is going to sound so shallow, but here goes. Last night on TV he showed up with a mustache & goatee. I think he’s taken himself out of running for national elected office.
My boyfriend Elmore received a similar email from a relative about McCain stating that McC is the only candidate speaking out against Torture…. he spent the evening writing just a similar email….
You — and everyone else — are quite welcome.
Clarke is horribly militaristic. He wants to attack Iran.
Where is that edit button?
it is torture
Exactly! She will only get worse considering she isn’t running for re-election.
Kennedy up on DOD budget asking about permanent bases in Iraq. About time someone asked.
wes Acxiom clark.
Lets not forget the bias that Huckabee would bring to the already volatile Israeli/Palestinian situation. We need a president that can plausibly engage the leaders in this situation from a position of neutrality. A Christian minister would have no leverage.
Gates sez U.S. does not want permanent bases in Iraq.
He then tries to sell us the Brooklyn Bridge.
One fellow I talk to in an online debate forum liked the idea of the 10 commandments in the courthouse, etc.
So I told him that’s fine, just be sure to put a shrine to the Black Madonna of Czestochowa in every courthouse,too.
He never said anything about it again.
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I heard Clark argue that an attack on Iran would be the exact wrong thing. When pressed about our ability, he said that we had the naval power to keep the straight of Hormuz open but that any Iranian nuclear facilities could not be taken out by any quick strike. He was vague about our ability to carry on another long term war, which most military men are, because they don’t want to flat out say that we can’t handle it. Still, he left no doubt that he thought war with Iran would be utterly stupid. He encouraged diplomacy.
This is why McCain should think twice about picking him. Although Huckabee is very likeable, his whole worldview will scare the independents McCain is counting on.
For later reference IRT wes clark: Final Report to the Prosecutor by the Committee Established to Review the NATO Bombing Campaign Against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
The FairTax is not fair at all. It is deeply regressive. I think factcheck.org was on this.
For some reason, I am not able to post in the next thread. It says I am not signed in.
Anyway, I just drove thru Naples Florida (about noonish) and heard JOY FM calling for a GOP hunger strike because of McCain. The lady announcer said that we need a man of God in the White House. Oy vey.