Update: MSNBC calls Oklahoma for Clinton
Larry J. Sabato’s Crystal Ball ‘08 has accumulated an incredible wealth of STuesday information in one place, on one webpage, at your fingertips. I recommend opening this page and keeping it open on your desktop as results pour in from coast to coast. We’ll likely want to refer to it throughout the day– and well into what might be a long evening.
Today really is historic, and way beyond any previous "Super" Tuesday primaries:
The only other single-day event that has ever come close to this size during the presidential nominating process came on March 8, 1988, when the first full-blown Super Tuesday featured 16 primaries, actually one more than is scheduled next Tuesday. But that one-day votefest 20 years ago was a Southern-oriented event, rounded out by a handful of primaries in the Northeast and a smattering of low-visibility caucuses in the West.
This year’s Super Tuesday, by contrast, is truly a nationwide event, the largest in scope ever held outside the November general election. It is vast and varied in virtually every way. Each region of the country is well represented. Red and blue states abound. Racial diversity is accented. Voter enthusiasm has rarely been higher, and turnout should be huge.
Well, some voter enthusiasm. Democratic voter enthusiasm, to be specific. The GOP, not so much. But I digress. Let’s return to Larry’s Senior Columnist Rhodes Cook, shall we?
Unlike 1988, no one part of the country will dominate next week’s vote. Each region will have a say, with the West (with one-third of the Democratic and Republican delegates) and the Northeast (with roughly one-quarter) leading the way. Altogether, Super Tuesday will include at least five states from each region, anchored by the nation’s first, third and fifth most populous states–California, New York, and Illinois, respectively.
The monster vote will require candidates to dip into both Red and Blue America in their hunt for delegates. The quintet of Southern primary states all voted decisively for President Bush in 2004. The five primary states in the Northeast were clear-cut in their support for John Kerry.
In the heartland, candidates will be tested in a collection of battleground states which nowadays are being described as purple, rather than red or blue. It is a group that on Super Tuesday will include Minnesota and Missouri in the Midwest and Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico in the Mountain West.
In the process, candidates will come face to face with the rich mosaic of racial and ethnic diversity that comprises the American electorate. Seven states voting Feb. 5 have populations at least 15 percent African American–four in the South, three in the industrial Frost Belt (including Hillary Clinton’s home base of New York and Barack Obama’s Illinois). Five states next Tuesday have populations 15 percent or more Hispanic–New York plus four Western states (California, Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico).
And will we have a conclusive result?
The one area where the Democrats and Republicans operate on quite different playing fields is in the realm of awarding delegates. Democrats require that delegates be elected to proportionally reflect the primary or caucus vote, with 15 percent statewide or in a congressional district needed to qualify for a share. Republicans allow for a variety of delegate allocation methods, from proportional representation to winner-take-all. And next Tuesday, most states on the Republican side will be using some variation of winner-take-all.
Yet ultimately, the big question is whether either party will have a decisive outcome on Feb. 5 as the Republicans did on Super Tuesday 1988? Then, Vice President George H.W. Bush swept every primary and all but one caucus state, essentially wrapping up the GOP nomination right there.
Or might one or both parties next Tuesday have a fragmented outcome like the Democrats did in early March two decades ago? Michael Dukakis, Jesse Jackson and Al Gore each won five primary states that day and divided the delegates–an inconclusive result that sent the Democratic contest hurdling on for weeks to come.
There are some great charts and graphs at Larry’s place; I really recommend it as a one-stop resource for how things work today, everywhere, in both parties, coast to coast. Finally, when will we know the results?
Results will trickle in next Tuesday night much like they will do in November. Polls in Georgia are scheduled to close at 7 p.m. An hour later every primary state east of the Mississippi River except New York will begin reporting their results. Polls in the Empire State will close at 9 p.m. Arizona will begin reporting its results the same hour. Utah will follow at 10 p.m. Eastern time, California at 11.
So fasten your seat belts. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride.
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Super Tuesday!
TSF!
Super FAT Tuesday!!
TUESDAY! TUESDAY! TUESDAY!
Already a scandal in the Republican West Virginia Primary! Romney says that he was cheated by a backroom McCain-Huckabee cabal!
But didn’t all three (McCain, Romney and Huckabee) collude to screw Ron Paul out of a caucus victory in Louisiana.
Boo-hoo!
Wednesday can’t come soon enough. I’m not going to stay up all night for the results. I’m going to bed and then waking up early to look at the results as I drink the morning coffee. Should piss me off for the rest of the day.
Oh, joy. Noron is reading a list of states. She’s actually rather good at that.
Hello, everyone!
Hiya!!
Go on TSF!
If Obama were white I bet the MSM would be expecting Obama to replicate his white vote victory margins in Georgia all over the South. If he were to do this…. the implictations for tonight defy words.
OT – A tornado just hit Clinton, Arkansas
Laissez les bon temps roulez!!!
And here in OR we get to wait until late May. I bet our vote will be so very very important. Not that I can even vote, being an Indie here we don’t get to chose, we just get left out.
Let the good times roll. It IS Fat Tuesday after all!
Oh, Lawdy… Is God weighing in on primary day?
Poetic Justice…??? ;-)
Throw me something mista!
Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey talking about how it’s a delegate hunt after tonight, and that Hillary Clinton never thought Super Tuesday would decide anything. He does not mention that this system was designed by her husband’s handpicked DNC chair, Terry McAuliffe, for her to win the nomination.
It’s Superneat Tuesday.
Well, what I used to do in my younger years was decide which party needed my “help” the most, register for their primary, and wreak whatever havoc I could. Go thou, and do likewise!
I like bumpy rides.
Snark, Foreshadowing, a Sign?
Repub caucus states – still winner take all?
oh oh oh!
how ’bout;
“supercaliforniiavotersexpationsareus tuesday” ?
I think so, but I’m not positive if it’s all of them.
Marion – left ya one downstairs…
Bobby Rush on MSNBC–Black Panther from way back (brings back some memories-Obama supporter…
Georgia is the least white of the Southern states that vote today: 63% white, as opposed to Alabama 70%, Arkansas 79%, Oklahoma 74%, Tennessee 79%.
Would that be the ‘Super Delegates,’ perchance…? ;-)
got my seat belt fastened!
Mardi Gras in Noo Orleans..
Btw, myself and 2 other Voisin campaign volunteers from 06 got asked to do a blog demonstration of sorts in a college “grass roots campaigning” class tonight so from 6-7 pst we will have you up on the big screen showing all the tricks of FDL and a few other blogs.
Bruce Fein is also at the college tonight giving a speech on “Who killed the Constitution?”
Super Tuesday indeed!
It’s a plot! Ingram on McCain. Shoot me now.
Fineman needs to stop talking to people like Laura Ingraham. She is a lunatic.
I don’t think you can say this system was designed by any one. Lots of states and individual politicians were trying to game the system to their own advantage (even to the point of going against the agreed-upon rules, like MI and FL), and the result of this wild mess is what we’re looking at tonight.
IIRC, in CA it was Ahnold pushing for the early primary.
I wonder if I’ll live long enough to watch an election where race or gender is not even mentioned? Not about the candidates or the voters.
That idiot Howard Fineman…on MSNBC.
Fred Thompson will be a stupor delegate.
“that this system was designed by her husband’s handpicked DNC chair, Terry McAuliffe, for her to win the nomination. “
That is the problem Terry McAuliffe designed it, Mark Penn runs her campaign and all their plans were designed to win the last election.
Gawd, I’ve sucked down way too much coffee today.
I think my coffee-maker is trying to display a plea to become unionized…
As for me, it’s a flavor I’m VERY used to! *G*
See my 37…
You’ll have to wait for the next generation…2016 or so…
Howard Fineman …you are a VERY WEALTHY media WHORE…get rid of the brown/oxblood shoepolish HAIR DYE…mebbe go to John Edwards stylist….
The paleness of MSNBC is simply embarassing. One white guy after another talking about Democratic candidates who look nothing like any of them.
OOOPS — I remember how to keep it “clean for Gene,” so I’ll try to behave, seeing as we’re known as a foul-mouthed feminist blog full of rabid lambs.
Thanks to all for the Birthday wishes. You all rock.
True, as a former Sen… But, I thought only the Dems had supers…? *g*
My my my the bitterness on this blog :)
Mike Barnicle sez the country is changing before our eyes, as Hillary’s lead in Massachusetts melted from 25% to nothing since Xmas. He finds the smiles on our faces due to Obama are stunning.
1968, eager young people, etc.
Happy Birthday Balrog!
Happy birthday Balrog!
badda bing…old stuffy white men with fake,hair fake teeth,fake morality
This, with no spew alert… I’ve now got beer in my sinuses…. 707!!!
Hi eg, how are you?
Omigawd I have voters remorse!
By last night, I had decided to vote for Hillary. I was just sick of the sexist crap she was getting bombarded with. Then when I got into the booth — I couldn’t do it! I thought of Mark Penn and Terry McAuliffe and the flag-burning amendment and the bankruptcy bill — and I just couldn’t fill in her bubble (ahem).
Later, I heard she agreed to debate on Fox, so I felt a little relieved that I hadn’t voted for her after all.
But now, I’m getting a really, really bad “that’s-not-a-moon” feeling . . . . what if Obama wins and he turns out not to be Mr. Wonderful after all?
Oh, Gah!
I want my John Edwards!!!!!!
David Gregory is also very talented at saying long lists of state names very quickly.
Can we all spell Maginot Line?
‘rog, you rock…
Raven! Happy in my new place. You guys are doing great in GA, what a turnout!
everybody’s good at something, mama told me.
Chris Matthews sez he is stunned at how female the Democratic party is.
Yup he said that.
That’s about right. GenX still hasn’t made that much of an impact on any election yet–but it’s coming. Just wont’ be soon enough for me, even though i AM GenX. (tail end of it, at 30 yrs of age.). We’re so friggen far behind the rest of the world. *sighs*
you wanna talk bitterness…Bernie Sanders said today in the Senate…to Bush Smirkartist budget guy ….1/10th of top 1 % will get a 700,000,000,000 tax break while cutting back on HOME HEATING OIL FOR ELDERLY ….he was GREAT
Happy Birthday to Balrog!
And . . . a very merry unbirthday . . . to everyone else.
Wouldn’t it be interesting that the winner (in terms of votes) in California iddn’t actually win the most delegates?
Could easily happen the way they’ve set up the delegate distribution by districts!
It was really nice today, almost 70 here in NE GA.
What makes me think that was not a compliment?
I think I might be surprised if the men on the panel let Rachel Maddow talk, Scarborough, since you asked what surprises we’re looking for tonight.
Hey, buddy! Happy Snappy.
Do not eat it. Share with weeguy.
Howard Dean was named chair of the DNC in early ‘05 and most of the primary arrangements and rules were voted on and passed by the DNC since then. If anyone is to blame, Donna Brazile can fit the bill easily enough.
What an idiot! we are about 52% of the population, you a**hat.
I don’t believe my own eyes unless it’s first verified on CNN.
oh no, don’t do that. I like me a foul-mouthed fem blog!
why is Scarbird doing so much talkin
Now that is much more important that Howie’s looks.
Tweety is one of those people who doesn’t know what he thinks until he SAYS it.
One of the nice things about nights like this is that it gives the American people a chance to see where they live.
All day I was tied up and remote from the news and the blogosphere, dipping in an out. Ann in AZ said this on an earlier thread: What was she talking about re: Michelle Obama? Can someone enlighten me?
Meaning Tweety – not you TSF
Huckabee leading in Georgia by 3 votes with 2% counted.
I want my John Edwards!!!!!!
he set the tone (sad face)
You Rock Balrog don’t let the Hobbits get you Happy Birthday!
Then again Mr Matthews, with his fixation on the maly characters of the politicians, must be soooooo comfy with the consequent manliness of the Republican Party.
Yes he did say that the democratic pary is feminine. Girly. No nacho should ever be a democrat.
sorry im truly SICK of the same cast of characters
Rachel can hold her own. When she really needs to says something, she does…
As long as nobody has died, it could be all 3.
Worst part about bein a dem is having to wear a skirt.
i don’t think i can take anymore. the madness is accelerating as the dying bulls kick harder.
so who’s in charge of keeping track of the KO vs. Tweety “Top Dog at MSNBC” primary being simultaneously played out tonight?
Come on, that’s not really what he said.
It’s a long slog- not a sprint. Some of these boneheads will wear themselves out during the first few states…PACE
Keif is such a PRO
I’ve been away for a bit, but I thought I’d check in here and see what’s happening at the lake on this Super Fat Tuesday.
I’ve heard the results of Georgia, when are some other results expected to start coming in?
3 minutes
In 3 minutes.
bout two minutes
It was near 80 here more south… 68 now.
i shall go get a libation,will ya join me?
Next set of polls close at the top of the hour, ~6 states. Results sometime to follow that.
3 MINUTES?!?!?!? How am I supposed to wait that long?
East of the Mississippi (except New York) closes in 3 — 2 — 1.
very interesting name you have. would you share what it’s about?
Survived another brutal Georgia winter!
This is my first chance to check in here at the Lake today, did anyone else catch this? A friend posted on another forum:
That has C&L video all over it!
burn one
Tweety is trapped in highschool girl bad boy phase he needs to actually date a few, rather than pine from the sidelines to get it out of his system.
I’m living vicariously through those of you who actually get some kind of say in the primaries. Here in Indiana I think we hold our primaries sometime in mid-November.
I love it when I get the
YOU ARE POSTING TOO FAST
SLOW DOWN
anybody else get them?
From Matt Stoeller on OpenLeft.com
who remembers: “Supercaliforniasurferexpertontheoceans”
Where abouts? I’m from Habersham but live in Cobb now.
I always smile at these sort of things as an indicator of things to come in November
(Hartford, Conn.) “Polls in Connecticut opened at 6 a.m. Tuesday and were to remain open until 8 p.m. Turnout records could be broken, according to Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz. Bysiewicz said local registrars were busy right up until Monday’s noon deadline to register.
From November 1, 2006 through January 31, more than 34,0000 NEW voters registered. More than 17,500 became Democrats and 6,300 registered to vote in the GOP primary.
And some 13,000 previously unaffiliated voters switched to the Democrat Party while 3,600 unaffilated voters registered with the GOP, Bysiewicz said.”
The Republican brand is losing its luster people. 30,000 new Democrats to 10,000 New Republicans. 75% to 25%.
kiddo carries it for Hil!
FOX has projected a win in Georgia for Huck.
it’s 8:00!!
Maybe- but his wife may not be co-operative.
Projections:
Illinois – Barack
OK – HRC
Pukes:
Illinois – McCain
That would be discussing this.
I stays in Athens, used to officiate hs b-ball and got up to Habersham now and then.
HEY
think progress put together a GREAT youtube and it’s a great friggin running tool for whoever runs against mccain in the primaries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..gress.org/
“the republicans are promising a third bush term”
a great meme
Romney – MA
McCain – CT
Tweety is trapped in highschool girl bad boy phase he needs to actually date a few, rather than pine from the sidelines to get it out of his system.
hell no – keep that creep away from high school girls!
(says the father of a high school girl…)
Mass for Mitt; CT for McCain. RGJoe lives to whine another day.
The HUCKSTER? Dream come true- GO HUCKSTER!!!
Well it just combines a couple of my interests. I had some good friends back in the 90’s in a band called Fancy Lizards (the theory being that according to Darwin, humans are nothing more than fancy lizards).
I also happen to be a big fan of the mystic poet, Jalalludin Rumi who was a Sufi.
Since all the simple net handles get snapped up so quickly, I combined “sufi” and “lizard” and that tends to usually be available. I used to try to get the screen name “Chris” but that’s never still available.
Bwahhahaha! Must see TV
Biodun,
I think she was referring to Michelle Obama pondering the thought of working for Hillary in the general if she gets the nomination. Initially she said she’d have to think about it. In the next breath said of course she would. Having it both ways. She’s a good politician.
I think they may have jumped the gun on that call.
We may yet get another frost — we’re not truly safe yet!
MO – Huckabee advantage
You ever read Cole Bark’s Rumi translation? He lives here and is a real treasure.
and the portulaca?
Huckabee in MO? How SWEET IT IS!!!
Goopers gettin some PAYBACK!!
Romney sayin “Wish I’d never HEARD the word “Fundamentalist”
According to Tweety….women only vote because of sex or something…nevermind issues.
Oh yea, don’t plant until after easter.
My little volunteer red portulaca is doing just fine, and growing. She thanks you for inquiring after her!
McCain takes Connecticut…
“Thanks, JoeLie, see ya!!” “Somebody get Huck on the phone, stat!!”
Just talked to an uber gooper friend. Said that he’d re-registered indie after he got pissed at Boosh for spending too much money- so he went down today and voted—-for OBAMA…Strange. This guy’s brother is one of the frothing at the mouth gooper authors you see regularly on teevee.
Another episode of “As the Simple Answers Turn”. No.
I’ve heard people calling in on Washington Journal saying the same thing.
Oh, the fundies love him here, and I think all the McCain-bashing by Rush has the GOPers looking to find a true conservative. The non-fundies have got their doubts about Mitt, so it’s looking good for Huckabee.
Not that Rush would like Huckabee, mind you — but he detests McCain.
Oh Christ, Tucker. run away
Whenever I heard the word “portulaca” I think of the scrunchy guitar riff at the beginning of the song “Shaft”
Would he be voting for the candidate he thinks would be easier to beat?
Shuster discussing the Obama campaign’s goal in Illinois: swamp the Chicago eight-delegate precincts in order to tilt them 6-2 rather than 5-3. Whether that’s happened is unclear, although Shuster sez the Obama people are seeing similar results in Georgia and are very happy.
Thanks! I agree with Ann in AZ. Michelle Obama shouldn’t have said that. Common on! Why the f*ck did she say that? So if Hill is the nominee, what, she’ll either vote for McCain (who will be the Rethug nominee) or stay home? I have not been an Obama supporter for some time now. Now I have another reason to have jumped ship. (BTW, I’m at the caucus now..and will caucus for Edwards…)
So, is Romney getting slammed because he is Mormon?
He’s a bad mo. . shut your mouth!
Tucker reduced to covering a single campaign… heh-heh.
moRON
Sorry Tweety is acting like a highschool girl in her bad boy phase. I’m sure not all girls go through this phase. Just the ones who feel repressed about something and need to rebel.
I did not mean to imply Tweeety liked highschool girls or women for that matter. You daughter should be safe, G.W on the other hand…especially if he stiffs his codpiece again.
rwcole at 140 –
I find this both unsettling and awesome.
Yes, Barks is just amazing! He did a reading back in college and I got to spend a little time talking to him. I’ve also got a couple of cassette tapes (this was back in the early 90’s) of both him and Robert Bly reading Rumi poetry with some fantastic middle eastern musicians playing in the background.
Bly introduced me to Rumi, but I think Barks does the best translations.
Betcha McCain puts Huckster on the ticket along with his abolish-the-IRS madness.
He is quite capable of doing that- but I don’t think that’s what’s going on. What he said was “I figure if the candidates are Obama and McCain- nothing is likely to happen that’s BAD for the country. Think that means Hillary.
That’s what I keep thinking as well. Maybe they are voting for him because they think he’s an easy mark to beat.
Biodun — caucusing for Edwards, I’m going to take a little vicarious redemption from that.
Oh, yeah.
AP has called Georgia for Obama on -get this- less than 3% of the vote in!
Actually “exit polls”. Delegates roughly divided proportionately – so no great advantage, other than “bragging right”.
Obama 50% Clinton 44%
http://www.npr.org/news/specia…..maries/ga/
on noooooooooooooooooze Huckadoodles wife is wearing my sweater
Chuck Todd is showing Noron his paper.
maybe he will join that women in the black dress, you know, his first lady, the coultergeist
she said she might support hilary if mccain won
hehe
if rush and the coultergeist both supported hilary, she would surely loose
Sounds like Huckabee continues to stop Mitt where McCain needs him to stop Mitt.
Noron’s got a new toy and is situated high up in the air above Tweety and KO – “hah, I fart in your general direction!!”
I find myself rooting for Obama
Great, glad you have heard him. The best thing I have seen him do was a reading about his grandkids!
my bad – you got me with the gender bender. am relieved now.
Maybe she would write in Edwards or something…just sayin’
guess you’ll have to donate it to the hospital thrift shop
NBC retracted Clinton win in OK
on noooooooooooooooooze Huckadoodles wife is wearing my sweater
Is it edible?
i’m practising sufism myself is why i asked. of those sufi poets hafiz is my big favorite. i read him every day. thanks for the response. i love the fancy lizards name. and sufilizard too. there’s also a children’s/?young adults book called ‘lizard music’ which i love by daniel pinkwater.
You have no choice burn it.
yea me too…
shizzola!!!
it really looks nice on me,accesorries would help her, well mebbe not
You have no choice burn it.
or donate it to watertiger
Can’t project for Dems: NJ, CT, TN, AL.
Can’t project for GOPs: MO, OK, TN, AL.
Tennessee too early to call? Hillary was up 20-25% ten days ago, per KO.
I just noticed Tweety is KO’s side kick on this debate coverage.
Clinton in Tennessee.
TN: HRC projected
Daniel Pinkwater!
I’m such a fan of his. I love to hear him read his books!
MSNBC saying Hillary wins Tennessee
A lot of projections coming in for the Rethugs…What about for the Dems? (BTW, my comments are mostly coming from MSNBC… Spoke too soon, just called Tennessee for Hill…
Has anyone yet said anything about turnout numbers? Are the Dems still turning out in significantly higher numbers than the Repugs?
KO just called Tenn. for Hill…
Fewer voters, easier to count.
So Tennessee, with 0% reporting and with HRC with a 1,000 vote lead, is called for Hillary…
Are these people really political reporters, or weathermen?
i have given her many freebees in the past,this one REALLY looks good on me,of course Mrs. Huckadoodle outweighs me by 50 lbs at leasst
Darwin never said that. At least not CHARLES Darwin.
They use the exit polls- and need only a tiny bit of the actual vote to verify that the exit polls are on target.
Mel aint too bright as you can see
exit polls
ARRRGH! I’m blind the Huck Married a Zombie! That blank stare those vapid eyes devoid of independent thought and will, the skin the same shade as the belly of a fish 3 days out of water.
oooooh, you’ve seen him!
Actually she said twice that she would support the nominee. She said it before and after her comment about whether or not she would actively work for Clinton if she were the nominee.
The distinction is whether she would actually “work on the campaign” with Hillary. Seems she had some qualifiers to THAT commitment “whether the nominee has appropriate policies, goals, etc.”
The Huchster does better when he borrows Chuck Norris’ wife.
I take it you missed the duck-bill plaid-y p(oh, never mind)….
No kidding! They don’t even attempt to provide “balance” with “tokens”. Even though Rachel Maddow is on Keith’s panel, it is still very white.
Isn’t Rachel white?
No no, i should have added that these were Saturday mornings on NPR where I heard him read a few chapters of several books. He has the funniest, most appealing voice. I wonder if people just go up to him and hug him all day long? lol…it’s that kind of voice.
… you go into an election with the army you’ve got …
*g*
Seems someone put a very editted segment of an interview up that excluded her response to a question before and her comments after the segment put on YouTube. The quote is out-of-context. She would support the nominee…but might not actively work on the campaign if that candidate didn’t support the ideals, positions, policies, etc. that she believed in.
Where’s the problem?
Someone said on the site where this came from that “Any Democrat must work for the election of the nominee.” I’d say that such hard work and committment requires the candidate commit to progressive policies, at least in part. Otherwise there are other candidates in the Congressional races where I’ll put my energies. Maybe Michelle has similar feelings?
sufilizard—-
Yes, Barks is just amazing! He did a reading back in college and I got to spend a little time talking to him. I’ve also got a couple of cassette tapes (this was back in the early 90’s) of both him and Robert Bly reading Rumi poetry with some fantastic middle eastern musicians playing in the background.
Bly introduced me to Rumi, but I think Barks does the best translations.
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sufilizard-
this is probably epu’d, but that was on pbs years ago, and i have been trying to get a copy of it ever since………..i gave my copy of it to gregory hines…….yes, really…….and i no longer have a copy, it was wonderful………the most memorable thing i have ever seen on tv.
and HI EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! i still don’t have the safari quitting on me issues ironed out, so haven’t been on, someone offered to help, but haven’t had the time to take him up on it, i will soon………
i can sign on, download the page quickly, then disconnect before it quits on me, is touchy…….so, hard to comment……….love you all
love,
dayna
Actually our friend Frank Darwin said that…. (okay, not really, but it was Darwin’s observations that led to the theory of evolution that would imply that we are just souped up lizards).
Hugs dmac,
Let’s try to have an Ohio meetup this summer. You want to?
You are trying to get a copy of Barks with Moyers?
margot—-yes, that would be wonderful, just went to columbus a week ago, to the aquarium store…….my email is proxima123 at frognet dot net and i’ll have you know, the last time i did that i got lots of crap mail, but is worth it to give you my email.
and raven, i didn’t know he was on with moyers, no, this one was a man, i don’t even know who, but he was from georgia, and it was just him reading with the orchestra behind him……in the mid nineties maybe…..
was exceptional
off to run an errand, be back in a few.
Okay…women are 50+ of the population.
Caucasians are 74+ of the population.
Hispanics are 14+ of the population.
Blacks are 12+ of the population.
Every other ethnic group is really small.
HRC or McCain will win.
I project HRC will win, and Bushco will create a cyber event and stay in office.
I hope I am just an idjiot and really off base (most likely).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D…..ted_States