Update II: NBC news calls Georgia for Obama.
Update: Jim Geraghty says that Massachusetts exit polls reveal a dead heat between Obama and Clinton. Marc Ambinder warns against reading too much into unreliable early information.
The insiders knew, even before last week’s California debate, that Barack Obama was surging in Clinton strongholds like California, coming from a 20-point deficit to a statistical dead heat. Hillary Clinton still stands a definite chance of prevailing in California but only because of the thousands of absentee ballots cast before Obama’s stunning close.
Yeah but see here’s the rub. According to the new Field Poll:
While many will have their hunches reading the tea leaves here as to who will win the California primary, this one is simply too close to call, and the race will be determined by those who actually turn out and vote. It is not just the margin of error of the poll here of static statistics, but a volatile and unpredictable electorate and the closeness of division in those who have already made up their minds. For those who have surmised that Obama may have a steep road to go up because of early vote by mail voters, consider this: Amongst all mail ballot voters who have or are expected to vote, the results are 32% Obama and 31% Clinton—hardly decisive at all.
Predictions are a dicey business so I’m going to leave it to Jerome Armstrong, who’s got a pretty good track record going so far:
States
Clinton: CA, NY, NJ, MA, MO, TN, AZ, CT, AL, AR, OK, NM, DE, UT, AK
Obama: IL, GA, MN, CO, KS, ID, ND
I go with Clinton winning 15 and Obama winning 7 states. Where Obama could change the narrative, is with a win in California; that would make it a battle all the way to the convention.
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Summary
With 1681 delegates and 23 states and territories involved, it’d be a futile adventure to try and nail down something more specific than just a guess at who takes which state.
But I have expected that a nomination of Clinton would become obvious on Feb 5th. I see polls all over the place, and still mostly Clinton leads, so there’s not a real reason to change that prediction: that Clinton wins at least 15 states and takes a 150-200 delegate lead after Feb 5th.
However, I don’t think Obama is going to be finished off by any means. Its impressive– how tight that Obama has pulled to Clinton nationally on some polls and his campaigns fundraising in Jan. That was remarkable. I’m with what I think is becoming a consensus: that a Dem ticket made up of these two candidates would be formidable for 2008.
If California does go to Obama, his position on driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants (he favors it, she doesn’t) could have an impact on last minute deciders, but that is a pure guess. That’s the only caveat I’ll add.
Okay, place your bets….
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350! I predict it will all be good for Republicans.
let them eat polls!
I turned out and voted for Hillary if that means anything.
in California that is.
Were the polls in California where you voted as busy as they were here? The poll workers were stunned. They had lines out the door before voting started, and had been busy all day. There were lines when I got there at 4:15, although short lines.
I think the 15-7 ratio should be reversed in favor of Obama… If not, 13-10 for Hill, as a worst case scenario for Obama…
I’ve decided to stick with FDL and Indecision 2008 for all my Super-duper-incredible-awsome-monster Tuesday coverage.
Seems well rounded enough.
Ya got me…
Considering the passion of the youth voters…could be Obama, but the earlier mail balloting is a major factor too.
Even.
Don’t know about the Dems…
However,; If McCain wins’em it is split down and melt time for the GOP
since my guy Edwards is out, I voted for Obama today and am slowly getting on that bandwagon. I’m looking for an upset in CA.
Agree that Clinton will take more states- and more delegates- but when they add em all up she won’t have a massive delegate lead- less than 20 percent.
Yes the polls were very busy. I live in a 95% Latino neighborhood and they were waiting in line at 2pm which is usually a slow time.
Hmm . . . predictions.
Freezing rain, starting in about an hour. That’ll change to snow sometime around 10:30, and continue all night.
Estimated accumulation? 1/4 ice, with 5 inches of snow on top.
Ice is not fun, especially in KC where folks don’t particularly deal with it well. But at least it didn’t come during the day.
I’m truly facinated how people can get themselves whipped up about the state of their candidate in the polls. After New Hampshire and the number of undecideds in these polls how can anyone say that they know what’s going on? I’m taking the wait and see approach.
I have been thinking for a while a unified ticket would be best. Let’s hope it would bring about more Obamish foreign policy and Clinton’s domestic side on balance, and not the opposite.
But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. My only prediction: primary related headaches will continue past tonight.
That is all!
We voted for Obama….still missing Edwards
Jane: Predictions are fine but I get really nervous when voters and party take a state like New Jersey for granted. Voters may think it’s all taken care of so they let others do the heavy lifting. NJ has the potential to be a very flaky state. There are vast red suburban areas and highly concentrated urban areas. I think it’s going to be much closer than anyone thought.
Just urge people to get out an vote. It really does matter, no matter what the polls say.
“I have a Dream vs I have a Plan” that’s so true. I want to see HRC go down in flames, but I’m not sure about The Obama-rama quite yet.
John Edwards, the media screwed you, and perhaps all of us by sucking the oxygen out of your campaign.
Good. Busy voting places are a good sign. What I really want to see is the Dem/Rep voting numbers. So far we’ve been creaming them in turnout. I hope that trend continues.
The one true Poll number that I’m eagerly awaiting is the difference between the Dem turnout compared to the Repug turnout… I predict a 2:1 landslide… *g*
I am having a very difficult time not going to the polls and voting for Obama. I’m still convinced that voting in Indiana and not in California is my best choice this election cycle.
Gretchen Clearwater vs Baron Hill is a more important race for me. We must get the Blue Dogs out.
Wish I’d have the chance to vote for Edwards—officially in OR out. Someone said yesterday, I think it was Kos that if this goes on past today, then we can expect the two of them to camp out in PA for the next big one. That means we will have them here for more than a month! What a nightmare.
That is how I feel. Obama is starting to grow on me.
Well, we’re supposed to get ‘em in Texas next since we’re March 4 I believe.
I miss Edwards too….
But I ended up voting for Obama (absentee ballot)….
Hey at least I feel confident I thwarted the absentee ballot theory by one vote…
I sympathize. I was living right across the river from Cincinnati, Ohio during the 2000 election. I can’t begin to tell you what a nightmare it was to turn on the television. NOTHING but attack ads. Phone calls. Mailers. People at the door. You poor things…
They’ve gotta hang in Ohio- ta get used ta the feelin.
My young republican niece sent out a mass e-mail this morning urging everyone to go and vote. She challenged everyone to guess who she was voting for. I replied does it matter in your case? Ha, ha.
There’s three ways to “win” today:
Since California’s results may not be known until Thursday, we may not have a winner in arena two or arena three for a couple days.
Counting right is important. It is much more important than counting fast. You’ll hear lotsa complaining from the media about California not being able to count fast. But counting right is what’s most important, and our new Secretary of State, Debra Bowen, has made sure our votes here will get counted right.
Here’s the complete schedule of coming attractions.
Primary poll-closing times:
7:00 p.m.
Georgia
8:00 p.m.
Alabama
Connecticut
Delaware
Illinois
Massachusetts
Missouri
New Jersey
Oklahoma
Tennessee
8:30 p.m.
Arkansas
9:00 p.m.
Arizona
New York
10:00 p.m.
Utah
11:00 p.m.
California
Caucus starting times:
New Mexico (D) — open 2 p.m. to 9 p.m.
North Dakota — open 3 p.m. to 9 p.m. (D), 7:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. (R)
Minnesota — 7:30 p.m. (D), 8:00 p.m. (R)
Kansas (D) — 8:00 p.m.
Colorado — 9:00 p.m.
Idaho (D) — 9:00 p.m.
Montana (R) — 10:00 p.m.
Alaska — 10:00 p.m. (D), 8:30 p.m. to 12:30 a.m. (R)
*West Virginia Republicans hold a convention today, beginning at 9 a.m.
The Potomac Primary (MD, VA, DC) is in a week, and there are other primaries scattered through February.
Well, good for her urging people to vote. I hesitate to ask who a young Republican might find appealing… I’m still trying to wrap my mind about the concept of “young Republican.” Has she told you what it is about the Republicans that draws her to them? I’m baffled.
Isn’t because they have to hand count ballots because machines were decertified…?
AH-greeeed!
Twenty minutes till the Georgia Peaches show us how the Goober’s crumblin down there.
A nightmare for the candidates, maybe! Just imagine all those UU congregants in Pennsylvania inspired by their ministers to participate in a month’s worth of Obama & Clinton townhall meetings: “When are you ending this occupation? When are we getting truly universal health care?”
heredity.
everyone’s forgetting the super delegates me thinks
supposedly the super delegates are responsible for 40 percent of the votes that matter…this was on rachael maddow who previously thought they only added up to 20 percent, the guest pointed out the netric which demonstrates they are responsible for as much as 40 percent though
so if it’s close, the dnc decides
There are lots of fifty year old young republicans. Who says goopers ain’t optimistic?
I don’t want to host either of them. And I’m probably the most politically active in the district if not the state.
With Rendell being the ultimate machine politican, and with Philly being a machine town, how Obama’s support will play out could make for some interesting dynamics.
I’ll be watching http://www.theyoungturks.com all night. They have continuous coverage. Ted Kennedy just finished up.
Hillary going to Fox News is a knife in the back. That was so unnecessary.
Heh, Denver ‘08 might be as raucous as Chicago ‘68…
Well, you can’t really count on that! Both my parents were rock-ribbed Republicans, and my dad sent me subscriptions to the National Review for as long as he lived. Fat lot of good it did him, other than give me ammunition!
The prediction that is most important is total GOP votes in the Primary vs Total Dem votes in the Primary. The more people we get to vote in the primary than the GOP gets the better.
No matter who the nominee is…just as long as they don’t blow it by giving into Bush on the War, FISA etc.
Yes, SecState Bowen decertified many localities’ touchscreens, so they are hand-counting and tabulating. But watch TradMed make fun of this, government not being able to do anything right, etc etc.
Bay Buchannan on MSBNC: Mike Huckabee is “a vicious little sidekick of John McCaon”
I swear, she just said that.
The super delegates will stripe the votes of the people and put Hillary in place.
But you’ll have a wonderful chance to pester them, upfront and personal.
Retail politics, I think they call it in New Hampshire.
Yeah, NPR, I think, did a rather annoying story this week about the CA voting machine decertification, with a poll worker whining about how using paper was “going backwards” and they might not have the results until the next day. They emphasized that the certification review had shown that it would require very sophisticated hacking to mess with the results, which just isn’t true. Just obnoxious.
With the gooper race supposedly locked up, there may be a big crossover vote to the dems in states that allow it.
Repugs get nasty when they don’t get their own way.
Bay is a paid Romney operative. Did she admit that?
The super delegates are largely elected dems. I don’t know that they favor Hillary.
Here’s the thing.
I don’t care.
I can’t believe I’m typing these words, but I don’t. The sadness goes well beyond the words.
Her father is a staunch republican and she is married to a republican christian part time minister. I think she gets most of her ideology through their church.
Hmmmm… We got a war on? Yep. We got a bunch of young people who want change? Yep. We got a Chicago Mayor named Daley? Yep. Let’s just pray that the air will be thin enough in Denver so cooler heads prevail!
I don’t see how republicans influencing our candidate selection helps us one bit
Tom Ridge on MSNBC (to Bay Buchannan): “Why can’t this be a debate about real issues?”
It doesn’t- but it’s one reason that dem votes may outnumber goopers.
I love it when they put Bay “Mother Bates” Buchannan on.
Why has the GOP decided to Hate McCain and back the flipflopper? McCain as a vet with more experience in the Senate he could give us trouble.
Mitt with his hedge fund Bain Capital to be noose around his neck with the market going down.
I will be caucusing for Edwards in MN in a little over an hour…Caucus will last perhaps 2 hours, then I’ll get back home and turn on the teevee…
I don’t get the feeling that Ann Romney is….how can I put it…happy or enthused…just a general gut feeling.
I wish to heaven our Sec. State would decertify our touch-screen thingys. We used to have paper ballots with scanners to count. New machines. I think we used them for 2 years. Then out they went… I absolutely HATE touch-screen machines, and I trust them about as far as I could throw a grand piano.
“mother Bates” good shot- so does Pat run the Motel?
Hmmm. Because if it were, the GOP would be going down in flames even faster?
Or was that meant to be a rhetorical question, Tom?
Well, she also said “conservatives don’t start pre-emptive wars.” Poor woman is obviously on drugs.
why do we allow it?
I DON’T want candidates republicans think are good ones and I DON’T want them to vote in spolers either
so no matter what, it’s a bad idea all around
As if her party is nearly over?
wow – thought Bay Buchanan was gonna pop a vein there…
Ha!
Bain has a huge stake in Clear Channel. Ergo Rush, Hannity, BillO et al. shilling big time for him.
The caucus hates him so he’s not getting any love there.
Dobson says he can’t support him.
He’s wrecking all that the reich wing has been building up for the past 30 years. At least he’s wrecking what’s left that W didn’t already wreck.
oops, that was a resonse to rcole at 61
Also, if they’re too far off what the people want they may face a vicious backlash. And defeat when running for re-election. Yeah, I know, I’m an incurable optimist…
Or…I can’t believe you dragged us into this sh*t and blew that much of our money!!!!
40% of GOP voters feel the economy is their most important issue.
Must be having problems getting good help.
Lots of people makin more money than they ever expected out of gooperism…
Rush would be a Chili Taster in the Wal Mart plant if it weren’t for convervatism.
Looks like MSNBC took Noron off the exit-poll beat. Maybe she couldn’t handle the sheer volume of numbers.
This is a common opinion, but BlackBoxVoting.org has shown that the optical scanners are as bad and could be worse than the touch screens. Easy to read paper ballots, clear chain of custody and hand counting appears to be the most honest voting possible.
http://blackboxvoting.org/
They’ve won substantial settlements against Diebold and know this stuff inside and out.
Maybe they are all heavily invested in the stock-market!!!
I have two Obama supporting daughters, neither of whom have voted yet. It’s almost 4:00 here in California. I also polled the (mostly Hispanic) kids in my class today about who their parents are voting for. Almost all Clinton. A few anglo kids said their parents would vote for McCain, and all military parents are voting democratic.
Georgia has had “on-site absentee” voting for a week. Anyone who has waited until now to vote is either a serious undecided or a serious procrastinator. It is no problem that the polls close @ 7pm.
Patrick Buchanan: The Pity by the Bay.
Nora seems plenty bright enough- but she got stuck on doin the “cute” act and then reached 45.
Her face froze in that perturbing grin.
“Voted their values.” WTF does that really mean? I vote my values too. I value life, hence I vote against people who start illegal wars. I repeat, WTF???
Rachel Maddow introduced on MSNBC as the “new competitor for air time with Pat Buchanan”.
The Scar then comes on air with “yeah, well, good luck with that!”…
I’m such a fan of JoeScar… *s*
I predict the GOP will be looking for any sign that white women won’t vote for Obama, Hispanics won’t vote for Obama etc. The GOP will use any difference in voting totals to say that the Dems are divided by race and gender. That is my prediction of the GOP meme/talking point for the next few days.
The GOP talking heads will not mention their minority voter turnout.
But, give ‘em credit, they’ve got Rachel on… *swoon* I liked Tweety’s remark to Pat… ‘Your arch-nemesis…’ ;-)
At least with the optical scanners you had the piece of paper that I had touched and marked with my black marker. With the touch-screens? Nada, zip, zilch, bupkus, if there’s a question about a recount all they can do is vomit back the same crap.
Chuck Todd is now talking about the “two coastal areas of Missouri.” It’s gonna be a long night.
The GOP minority vote IS white women.
She gets off on bad news.
2 mins to go for GA…!
What ever happened to Newt ‘08?
DAYUM! Really? If that happens here in Georgia it will be a blow-out. I do think a number of the military families are voting for Paul in the primary here. What they’ll do in November I don’t know.
For those wanting to see the numbers coming straight from the state, here’s Georgia’s results page.
Here’s somethin on Nora’s husband:
Chef Geoff Tracy, the moving force behind the two restaurants bearing his name, is still waiting for George W. Bush to keep the campaign promise he made while running for president in 2000.
Tracy’s wife, NBC-TV White House correspondent Norah O’Donnell, was covering then-Gov. Bush at the time and told him that Tracy was about to open a restaurant near American University. Bush promised her that if elected, he’d come to dinner.
patrick g. ryan
Chef Geoff Tracy at his restaurant on 14th Street.
——————————————————————————–
“Every Christmas we get invited to the White House Christmas party, and she reminds the president of his promise,” the 31-year-old Boston native said while waiting for his wife to return from a weeklong trip with the Bush campaign shortly before the Republican National Convention. “And he laughs and says, ‘Well, I guess we’ll have to chalk that up as another broken campaign promise.’”
I just got off the phone with John Laesch. He’s been out campaigning all day and he said it feels really good– so good that so far one of the union PAC’s that had agreed to give the Democratic winner $5,000, brought the check over to him already!
Or some of us just like to go and vote on, you know, the day the election happens. Just saying…
CNN just projected Obama won in GA
Didn’t go to that conference that Bloomberg held… ;-)
This morning he ridiculed the plight of the polar bears by saying something really sarcastic about the poor, little polar bear cubs floating around on bits of ice…in the same tone as W’s mocking comment “Please don’t kill me” when the woman in Texas (whose name I forgot) was asking for mercy…
Perhaps that’s Bush’s way of acknowleging that he was selected, not elected.
That was quick. How bout the Huckster- I’m rootin fer him to win- following a Putney Swope sort of story line.
absolutely!
More exits:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/177150.php
If I’ve learned anything the last few years, it’s not to get too excited by exit polls, but Obama’s doing really well so far. Obviously long way to go…
Aargh, no edit… Didn’t Newt attend …
BIG fingers crossed on that one. John will make a great rep.
Fantastic! The Blue America races are where we really have an impact. More and Better!
MSNBC calls Georgia for Obama; too close to call on the GOP side.
I used to do that, but since the same machines are used every day, I figured I would avoid the crowd. My polling station in Marietta is so busy, and since there are only 2 check-in machines used per site, it didn’t make sense to stand in lines for 2 hours today when I can stand only 30 mins by voting early.
There must be a lot of Bushies out there having conniptions over McCain.
Bwahahahahahaha…
I attempted to nap again, wasn’t going to happen. So i’m gonna see if i can stomach the soup that i’ve had for a while. i’m actually getting grumblings of appetite so we’ll see. Been fun watching the fireworks of all this between naps. *grins* I have ot say, if Obama or Edwareds had been on the MI ballot i would have voted for either of them. I was in the uncommitted camp in the MI Clusterfuckup of a primary.
Gonna make an appointment for the doc tommorrow, before i head into work. I wouldn’t be so leery of this if i didn’t have asthma. I’d just fight it through. But i do have that, as an added joy. The only reason my cough has edged off, is because of the cough suppressant prescribed to me on sunday. If it wasn’t for that, i’d still be bringing up a lung and all my insides. (i am so glad i’m not voting today. i’d never make it!)
Gotta love it!
Great news, Howie. Any word from Mark Pera’s campaign?
The last GA exit poll had Obama at 75%, Clinton 25%. Wow.
Three-way Tie…! Bwhahaha…
They can rally behind the Huckster. He prays almost as good as Bush.
Mitt hasn’t bought Clearchannel yet Rush Limpballs stock price dropped below the buyout stockprice ahead of a take over rummor? I thought stocks go up ahead of take overs? I wonder what lies Clearchannel must be hiding in their books to make Mitt nervous?
Does Rush have Clearchannel stock options that might explain why he and all of talk radio is backing Mitt.
But Mitt still won’t close this deal something must be wrong with clearchannel.
“Major Investor Backs “Clear Channel Sale
by Erik Sass, Tuesday, Feb 5, 2008 8:01 AM ET
CLEAR CHANNEL COMMUNICATIONS’ LARGEST INSTITUTIONAL shareholder, Highfields Capital Management, gave a vote of confidence in the company’s planned sale to Bain Capital and Thomas H. Lee Partners last week, with its purchase of millions of shares bringing its ownership of the company to 7.7%. Previously, Highfields owned 5% of the company’s stock.
Highfields made the purchase shortly after one radio analyst, Jim Boyle of CL King and Associates, voiced concern that the company’s sliding stock price might have Bain and Thomas H. Lee reconsidering their planned $20 billion purchase.
The two private-equity firms agreed to pay $39.20 a share to take the company private, but general weakness in the radio industry drove the price as low as $28.00 in recent weeks. They have until June to break off the deal, if it hasn’t gone through by that date.
The Highfields buy on Wednesday and Thursday seems to indicate the big shareholder is still betting the sale will go through. And by buoying the stock price up to $30.70 on Thursday ($30.91 at press time on Monday), Highfields may help reassure the private-equity firms, which are said to be leery of paying too high a premium for the stock.”
http://publications.mediapost……_aid=75770
Obama got 43% of white voters in Georgia, significantly better than his 23% in SCarolina last week.
Yay! Barak in Georgia!
I live in the reddest of red districts in California — CA-04, home of John Doolittle. When I voted at 11:30 a.m. I was the 46th person to vote. They said they were surprised how low the turnout was.
The Republicans are demoralized — even in this Mormon enclave (where I though Romney would be a hit), they just aren’t coming out to vote today.
Standing in line for 2 hours? Vote early! My (new) precinct has LOTS of machines, and efficient, well-organized poll workers. Even so, there were short lines at 4:15 when I voted after work. They were stunned at the turnout today, and ran out of “I Voted” stickers at noon.
Menage a trois.
hi LindaR!
romney is determined to spend all his money and I really don’t want to disabuse of that priviledge, I think he needs to stay in the race till he spends another 50 or so million of his own money
that’s good for the economy to be sure
I’m just saying
Tag won’t like that at all.
One of the things I’ve not seen anyone talk about yet is the age demographic in GA. The Atlanta area has a *huge* young adult population…singles and starter families from all over the region come to the Atlanta area for the job opportunities.
I took me 5 minutes at 8am and that was because they forced me to fill out an evaluation!
When I walked by our polling place this afternoon, it was empty. But the lady whose garage they use said there was a line outside when they opened this morning, which never happens.
While I’m interested in the statewide winners, I’m even more interested in the delegate numbers. So far, I’ve heard that Obama won Georgia, but no clue about how the delegate races broke down.
When folks post results — either actual or “called on the basis of exit polls” — it would be nice to get the delegate figures as well as the voting numbers/percentages.
Hi there!
Good point!!
Mitt is the stimulus package.
Ewww…! I tell ya tho, it’d be a three way tie on the Dem side too, if Edwards was still in…!
Heading out to my Mpls precinct in a few minutes… going with Obama in place of Edwards (However, I’m still going to put my Edwards bumper sticker on the car when in comes in the mail!)
“Younger voters seem to get Barack Obama, older voters don’t” is the word from JoeScar. “Obama won Georgia because of blacks voting” says AssPress. Well, this 62 year old white woman voted for him. Skroo all dem pundits.
Do they ever let Rachel talk?
Voted mid-afternoon in Somerville, MA (near Cambridge); long lines; heavy turnout. First time I’ve ever voted and was still undecided afterwards!
Perris, for some reason my comment to you regarding r-s voting for dems got lost in the ether.
I thought it wrong when ‘we’ did ‘it’ in Michigan, though many thought it way ‘cool’. A well known Blog’s ’spokesman’ was gleeful at the propect of throwing monkey wrenches at ‘them’ and had much support.
Of course the argument is that ‘they’ always do ‘it’ anyway so …
Hypocrisy becomes us …
Shuster said we should have those numbers for Georgia within 20-45 minutes.
Banjo Boy needs to stop trying to ignite a war between African Americans and Latinos.
They use someone’s garage?! For real? Not a public space??
lol
Heh, speak of the devil…
And a grumpy 58 year old honky male too!
FYI, talk radio here in Los Angeles (KPCC/NPR) reports that there are many problems with “decline to state” voters being given the wrong ballots and/or not knowing/not being instructed that they have an extra “bubble” to fill in on their ballots or else their votes will not be counted. If unaffiliated voters don’t fill in the bubble, their vote won’t count. If registered democrats fill in the bubble by mistake, their vote may not count. (These are paper InkAVote ballots.) Considerable problems with uneducated poll workers on this issue. KPCC reports that the Obama campaign may make a legal challenge based on this issue, so that votes can be counted regardless of whether the bubble was filled in or not.
Ding!!
Not every state opens it’s polls with a “Genie” opener.
SanFran is the first place I’ve ever lived where I voted in a garage. I’ve never voted in a school or church here. Only people’s garages.
So “bubble” is the Son of Chad?
Actually, any campaign could…!
All these white men talking about race and gender on MSNBC. As a *gay* white man, I am so over MSNBC’s penile paleness.
We proudly vote in Garages in San Diego as well. Maybe it was a Reagan idea. Nice opportunity to see your neighbor’s tools.
Well, at least you have one of those penile thingies…
Lou Dobbs says that with 0 precincts reporting that the GA Rep vote is too close to call.
Ya think?
*groan*
707! I’ll bet! How does one get selected to be a “polling garage?” Volunteer?
Campaign presence on NYC’s upper east side has been Obama. Overall though, I think Hillary will win NY without too much trouble.
SuperDuperTuesday-wide, I would be very surprised if either one puts it away. Just not possible with proportional delegate awards. My guess is Hillary plus 120 delegates v Obama after all the votes are tallied Thursday.
I thought that was very strange indeed. I almost missed that when I voted but I marked the democrat bubble anyway even though I was given a democrat party ballot. If independants did’nt mark it properly which is largely Obama people, it could screw things up for him.
our polling place is the engine bay of the local firehouse. does that count as a garage? I’ve seen plenty of residential garage voting in my day.
I’ve voted in garages, fire houses, nursing homes, churches, and today it was outside my son’s kindergarten classroom.
It’s all good. The firehouse was the best, though. They put out cookies, coffee, and cocoa for the voters . . . but it sure busted up the line on the sidewalk when the sirens went off and they had to race to an emergency. The crowd gave them a cheering sendoff.
Yep. The most rabid Republican where I work is just about schizophrenic about it. He’ll probably vote for Ron Paul as a protest in the primary and for a Democrat (first time in his life) in November. He’s just so disgusted with what’s going on he’s almost in tears.
Good catch we need numbers at super red districts voter turnout for the GOP if the Reddest of the Red those who in the past were the most likely to show up to vote, don’t show.
Well all polling assumptions based on them will have to be thrown out the window.
This election could get strange it could bet a very long night if the pollsters *cough* wisdom turns out to be all wrong.
Schools are OK- but the damn urinals are too short.
Rachel always gets cut off by Buchanan or Tweets. She needs to figure a way to make that stop.
That I wouldn’t know about… But you’ll break your back trying to use a water fountain!
Ever go to a meeting of adults at an elementary school? Nothin like a six foot seven three hundred pound guy tryin to slide into onea them desks!
She’s too polite. She needs to learn to raise the volume of her voice and just keep on talking. Makes them look rude…
Don’t ya just love the product of Rove’s Math…?!!! ;-)
They’ve been on about the whole extra bubble/decline to state thing pretty much since this morning, lots of confused people calling in and many upset to learn their vote won’t count. It could turn out to be a mess, especially if the election is close. I’m sure Obama camp figures it will affect them disproportionately.
Some meetings they have to call the fire dept for the jaws of life to get the desks of the attendees.
The Pukes hate their candidates…Heh.
Hi, MSNBC was showing my polling place in Roswell, GA. Go BARACK the white female cast my vote for you.
Banjo Boy is who?
In my township we voted in a new golf course clubhouse for a couple of years.
newsflash – Tom Brokaw is becoming aware that integration, even in the south, has essentially happened….
Nice to see that he’s as on top of his game as usual.
I’m guessin Scarborough.
Of course, in SF, off-street parking is next to Godliness.
Schools are OK- but the damn urinals are too short.
Or…
(sorry – couldn’t resist)
(going to corner to serve self-imposed time-out).
Given these Georgia results, I have a new theory: Obama’s Iowa victory convinced black voters that white voters would vote for him, while his South Carolina victory convinced white voters that black voters would vote for him. Now everybody realizes that everybody will vote for him.
I really feel sorry for this poor guy. He’s got a lot of very rigid ideas about who should do what and with which and to whom, and he’s really struggling. (He winces whenever he sees me because I try to start his day off with the news of some screw-up “his” people have perpetrated. It’s shooting fish in a barrel, I know, and I do feel a wee bit guilty…)
This is encouraging for Obama supporters:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljou…..f_geo.html
He’ll probably vote for Ron Paul as a protest in the primary and for a Democrat (first time in his life) in November.
That’s exactly what I did/am doing! Not for the same reasons though…I wanted to use my RP vote as a protest and a monkey wrench. Our district is staunchly Republican, and on first glance we “fit in”, except our cars are the only ones without the Dubya stickers. I’m really enjoying watching them squirm too.
She should slap them.
can someone tell me why they hate mccain so?
Do you have any idea who designed the ballot, or why it was designed that way? Here in Georgia we have an open primary, so all you have to do is tell the poll worker which you want. Any idea why your procedure was so different?
In Cali we use everything. My cousin in Los Angeles is voting in a Buddist Temple.
Here in KC, the local news is pushing two stories. First is the storm that is rolling in – freezing rain changing to snow, with the latest predictions calling for up to 10 inches of snow by morning, and drifts up to two feet. Everyone’s glad it waited this long to arrive, so as not to screw up the election and the workday.
The second story is the election. Strong turnout in Missouri — perhaps double the 2004 turnout for the KC area. On the Kansas side of the state line, they do caucuses — the dems today, and the GOP on Saturday. (Don’t ask why.) Turnout on the Dem side is growing, and a number of caucuses have had to change their locations to larger spaces at the last minute. Between that and the storm, it’s going to be an interesting night in Kansas. (The snow is expected to be much less in KS, but still enough to make getting around fun.
Choke–!
Note to self: Skip all rwcole comments during dinner. ;)
I’d ask for the salt shaker, myself… But, that’s just me…! ;-)
There was a 45 min wait at my precinct in Central California and it’s not even 5 yet. Thank God for paper ballots.
Last time I went to SF my husband and I went back home to Marin cause we couldn’t find a parking place.
They think he’s a Liberal (gasp!) in Repube clothing.
That in and of itself is comical considering what CrazyTrain’s been saying throughout the campaign, and what he’s done in recent years.
I think HRC should send a thank you note to Saxby Chambliss.
/snark
can someone tell me why they hate mccain so?
Comes up way short on the “I hate… (fill in the blank)” factor?
ok – I’m over the Georgia democratic race – next?
CNN is saying that the GA delegate breakdown is starting to become clear. Of the 87 delegates up for grabs (that is, not including superdelegates), they’re saying Obama has nine and Clinton three at this point. Lots of counting to go, but it’s starting to trickle in.
They think he’s a…. wait for it…. ready? Swallow any liquid in your mouth… LIBERAL! Really… BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Republicans with W stickers on their cars? Do you realize how embarrassing that must be? Means their cars are close to four years old. That is so…so…democratic!
Maybe the republicans should reconsider their push for white people to reproduce more kids. The younguns these days don’t seem to be as interested in the same issues as they are. snark
In my strongly nw Illinois Repub precinct, I was the 127th democrat out of 233 total voting. Good turnout for dems so far.
Hey — we like the attention!
You never know what triggers folks’ beliefs. In ‘72 I had a girl that was campaigning with me for McGovern tell me that she and her parents were voting for McGovern cuz Nixon had gone “commie” by going to China earlier that year.
[bangs head on desk]
No offense to Georgians- but half an hour is long enough to discuss that race…
Hey — we like the attention!
oh – well it wouldn’t be a normal day if I didn’t put my foot in my mouth a time or two, now would it?
Yeah, we get to satisfy our Iowa envy for an hour! LOL
NOTHING prevents you from voting for Edwards. He’s still on the ballot in most states still…and there’s always the write in for those latter states. You won’t have the right to influence the viable candidates in the race, but nothing prevents you from voting the way you wish.
I don’t remember who they said was responsible for it. The way it is supposed to work is “decline to state” voters are supposed to be given a specific non-partisan ballot that would be good for voting either in the American Independent or the Democratic primary. So you are supposed to mark one of the bubbles to say which party’s primary you are voting in, and then mark which candidate you are voting for. The weird thing is, there also seems to be a bubble on the Registered Democratic ballots. But registered dems are not supposed to mark the bubble. And now a lot of confused poll workers have given dem ballots to indies, instead of non-partisan ballots. Muy confusing.
“Consider this: In 1998, the United States paid approximately $45 billion for its imported oil; in 2007, that bill is likely to have reached $400 billion or more. That constitutes the single largest contribution to America’s balance-of-payments deficit and a substantial transfer of wealth from the U.S. economy to those of oil-producing nations. This, in turn, helped weaken the value of the dollar in relation to key foreign currencies, especially the euro and the Japanese yen, boosting the cost of other imported foreign goods and so threatening to fuel inflation at home”
So your prediction is 15 states for Clinton and 7 for Obama? Even if this proves correct the main stream media and many of the so called “progressive” bloggers will find a way to insist that this is really an Obama victory. Even if Clinton won 22 states to none those same idiots would find a way, with a straight face, to tell us that Obama won.
“Today, a large share of this money is deposited in so-called sovereign-wealth funds (SWFs). Americans should get used to that phrase. It stands for giant pools of wealth that are under the control of government agencies like the Kuwait Investment Authority and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. These SWFs now control approximately $3 trillion in assets, and, with more petrodollars pouring into the petro-states every day, they are projected to hit the $12 trillion mark by 2015.”
The main stream media and “so called bloggers” have nothing to do with spinning how much Hillary is slipping. We’ll let you Clinton people “find a way to insist this is really” a Hillary victory.
America is waking up to who and what Hillary represents. (Complete and total compromise and a taste for Mid East wars.)
The “idiots” don’t have to say much today, the voters said it all yesterday!
OBAMA 08!