Comments on: A Date Which Will Live in Wankery

By: highllama

highllama — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:29:57 +0000

Thanks for remembering this date.
I remember sitting in the parking lot at REI in Santa Rosa listening to NPR recap Colin’s blowhole presentation and saying “fuck” to myself. I also suggested that emptywheel include this in the timeline of nefarious acts leading us into the abyss we are now in: a country despised by any rightful citizen of the planet.

Fuck Bush.
Fuck Powell.
Fuck Tenet.
Fuck Cheney.
Fuck Wolfowitz and Perle.
Fuck Reagan.
Fuck Cheney again.
Fuck Rice.

And for that matter all of the Democrats who caved and gave Bush the unilateral powers after 911 that Cheney and Co. figured they could push into Executive branch untouchability.

Treason by any other measure.

By: tanbark

tanbark — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:52:54 +0000

RedX@216; True enough, but tell that to those of his supporters who are talking insane shit like voting for McCain as a “protest”.

If he doesn’t come out and yank on those people’s leash very soon, he’s going to wind up smelling like Ralph Nader. And I was as loyal a supporter as he could have.

When he left the race, he should have explicitly told his supporters to vote their consciences, if not made a direct endorsement of Obama, whom he knows would be one hell of a lot more palatable to voters in the general, than would Hillary.

For him to even tolerate some of the stuff that’s being put up on his blogsite is incredible. Obama ran a fair campaign against him. Nothing outrageous; nothing over the line; and John should get on his site and state that. It would help with those of his supporters who are currently unloading some mindless and utterly non-factual vitriol on Obama.

Obama and Hillary are NOT equivalent, and when her supporters try to ride him like a horse, with their:

“We have two fine candidates to choose from.” treacle;

They’re talking nonsense. We have one fine candidate left, and one surge-applauding triangulator who cannot and will not take advantage of the issue on which the repubs are most vulnerable…Iraq.

By: Blue

Blue — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:31:13 +0000

Yes, let’s do recall. Remember when Powell was considered God’s gift to the electorate … ooh if he would only run for president - he’d get Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike. Were you one of those so enamored with him? How quickly we forget. Just as he did not receive an appropriate amount of scrutiny, neither has Obama. What is it? Liberal guilt - the desire to promote a minority over the critical evaluation of a candidate? Isn’t that how the Senate let Clarence Thomas slide onto the Supreme Court. One can’t argue (legitimately anyway) that Clinton has not been scrutinized but the same let’s make history meme applies to her candidacy as well.

Powell is was and will always be nothing more than a tool, a good little soldier from My Lai to Iraq. Neither Clinton or Obama are progressive candidates merely egotists taking advantage of eight years of the worst administration in history because they suspected that being female or black might be enough -and, indeed, it appears it will be.

Call/fax on FISA again today; take meaningful action.

By: Maddy

Maddy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:27:25 +0000

Laughing, with prior experience.

By: Maddy

Maddy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:26:12 +0000

I might suggest Sending that post word for word to Lewis Black, I can only imagine the comedy bit he could develop from that frivolity, and I really like to laugh.

By: Maddy

Maddy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:19:01 +0000

That was to the T

By: redX

redX — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:11:50 +0000

Zogby on C-SPAN. Ron Paul supporter sez he’ll vote D if Ron Paul is not on the ticket on account of war. Zogby sez he hears that a lot.

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Good point, either way you look at it from Paul (foreign or economic policy) the 800 lb elephant in the room is Iraq War II.

By: Knut

Knut — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:11:14 +0000

Thanks for this. Dean was the start of the rebirth.

By: redX

redX — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:08:59 +0000

If Edwards wanted a delegate stash he would have stayed in the race. He would easily have hit 15% in a number of places.

By: Bilbo

Bilbo — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:04:37 +0000

[Full Metal Jacket’]s great. Krubick wouldn’t leave England so the picked the Battle of Hue to have an urban setting. Half the film is Marine Boot Camp and the other in Vietnam. Michael Herr, the author of “Dispatches” wrote the srceenplay.

Also, the one of the major characters in part 1 (Private Pyle) is played by a very young “Bobbie” (Vincent D’Onofrio) from Law & Order: Criminal Intent. Probably my all time favorite Vietnam War flick.