John Dean succinctly dissects why skepticism should greet assertion of state secrets:
As one commentator nicely states it, the state secrets privilege was "born with a lie on its lips." When the government says "national security," the federal courts seem to cower. Yet anyone who has worked in this area knows that seldom is nation security truly at stake when the government claims it to be. Typically, the invocation of national security borders on being a hoax.
And, as emptywheel has pointed out recently with regard to the CIA tapes controversy, the Bush Administration has so overplayed its hand and its overuse of classification demands for the trivial — I’m looking at you, Dick — that the cry of "wolf" no longer gets the desired rise.
What is at stake in this argument is nothing short of balance of powers considerations — and the need to bring an unchecked, unilateral executive power grab back to reality:
Prof. David Cole of the Georgetown University Law Center, one of the nation’s preeminent constitutional lawyers, told IPS, "The administration has argued on the merits that the president has unilateral executive power in the ‘war on terror’ to violate even criminal laws, and when it has been challenged on that assertion, it has argued that the courts can’t even rule on that assertion of power because the alleged criminal violation is a ’state secret’."
Cole’s view is echoed by Prof. Peter Shane of the Ohio University law school. He told IPS, "The expansion of executive power for its own sake has been a political priority of the Bush administration since the beginning. Consistent with this agenda, the administration has been conspicuous in its defense of the executive’s secret-keeping authorities, even where disclosure of the information sought would not seem to undermine any public interest. This is true not just for state secret claims, but for the full scope of conceivable executive privilege claims."
He added, "The current Supreme Court is so solicitous of presidential power that there is absolutely no prospect of real reform initiated by the current judiciary. If there is to be change, it will have to be at the initiative of Congress."
And that, in a nutshell, is why the fight in Congress over the state secrets legislation, over not granting telecom immunity, over a whole host of issues is so important: because there must be tension, must be limits and testing of them, between the branches of government. I keep turning back to Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine, and trying to piece together the disperate threads of what has been — and what should have been — in terms of accountability and constitutional strength.
And it comes back, again and again, to the fact that so much of the public has been cowed into a submissive "don’t want to rock the boat" attitude wherein questions are raised furtively among friends, but real discussion no longer takes place to the extent it needs to do so in the public square. We see this on the Talking Head shows, we see it in so many of the media who do more infotainment than real news, we see it in the immediate wall of divisiveness that a "left versus right" framing takes the debate, instead of focusing it on the actual issues.
There are fundamental questions underlying all of the assertions of state secrets in the past few years which need to be asked. So, I’m asking:
1. What exactly has been done in our name at the behest of the President of the United States? How far is his administration willing to go to keep it secret? And how many innocents have been caught up in this mess of rendering, never-ending detention, and failure to follow the basic precepts of human rights law?
2. When will the hypocrisy of selectively leaking certain portions of top secret information while simultaneously decrying any real exposure of the whole truth be called for the bald-faced lie that it is on its face? Over and over again until you stop?
3. How, exactly, do we "win" by destroying the very notions on which this nation is founded? How is it a victory to destroy due process?
4. By allowing wholesale assertion of the state secrets privilege, the Bush Administration is given a blank check of power with no means of oversight nor any check or balance to its conduct. This is not what the Founders foresaw as the duty of either the legislative or judicial branches. The state secrets legislation is a good step back toward the proper direction. But more is needed — including, but not limited to, standing up to the petulant demand for immunity for telecoms as CYA insurance for Dick Cheney and his Article II power-grabbing minions in order to protect the secrets of its behind-the-scenes machinations to undo FISA, among other legal limitations on executive power. When exactly can the American public expect lawmakers to find their spines and stand up for the rule of law?
Because, as Henry Lanman accurately said in Slate:
The Bush administration has fought at every turn to limit scrutiny of its conduct since Sept. 11. And, unless courts start to reject its assertion, the administration may have found in the state secrets privilege the ultimate tool for making its actions invisible.
Isn’t it time we all started demanding more sunshine?
Part I of State Secrets and Lies.
(YouTube of "Let The Sun Shine In" from Hair.)
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Christy again!
No responses. How can I resist?
Damn!
Christy – Very good work indeed on these two posts this morning.
Dunno how you come up with these dynamite, meaty, and robust posts, Christy…*g*
Thank you for this and many teaching moments here at the Lake, Christy.
Priceless.
Can congress amend or end the war powers act? I mean this seems to transcend partisanship. I think restoring balance to the branches would be popular with true conservatives. If there is no remedy in the courts,then there has to be in congress.
Let’s not forget one of Bush’s early executive orders changing the release of presidential records. Twelve years after a president’s time in office ended, many papers were made available by the National Archives. Now it’s twenty.
Bush assumed he’d be in office eight years and made sure Reagan’s and his father’s papers would never see the light of day while he was president. Nice, huh?
Outstanding writing this AM Christy. Thanks so much for your research, writing and commitment to the truth (also for your continuing to inspire us to be involved).
Yeah, I wanted to also get into signing statements, but there was so much that it started getting way too long. Froomkin has been all over the signing statements issue the past few days, as has Charlie Savage (bless him!). And their work on it is well worth reading. Will try and get to that later in the week…sometimes, it’s just tough to keep up with all of the atrocities at once, sad to say.
Aw, shucks…now you are making me blush. Thanks.
Thanks, Fern. Thanks Biodun. Must be the good coffee this morning…I added a little cinnamon to the grounds before brewing today. Quite nummy.
Sad but true. Bush is hiding too much to get into one post! Thanks for the heads up on Froomkin.
This administration likes it’s “get out of jail free” cards, don’t they? When this crap finally ends, when someone opens the records, all of them, it’s going to be ugly. But it needs to be done to cleanse the American soul.
Christy, have you seen this
from CQ Politics, titled “State Secret Abuses Come to a Boil”?
Just a reminder folks, for copyright considerations please remember to do two things: (1) always link up your sources and (2) only pull an excerpt, not a long or complete segment of someone’s else’s work. Thanks!
Yep — it’s linked above and in the last piece as well.
I forgot to add, I saw that at Laura Rozen’s War and Piece.
Oh dear, beg your pardon. Need more coffee!
No problem, it’s a lot to digest on a weekend morning. But I wanted to set the table for the FISA arguments in this context for everyone. And I do hope that folks are still FAXing and calling on that — whatever improvements we get, we will have earned them with an awful lot of work exerting pressure on these issues. Good on all of you for doing the necessary hard work to get us as far as we have.
Had it not been for everyone pressuring their elected officials for the last two years on the FISA issue alone, the Bush/Cheney Administration would have long since swept everything under the rug. Kudos to all of you!
Agreed. Great work Christy! The work that you, Emptywheel and Greenwald do keeps me thinking all day and has been an inspiration to action. Keep it up!
OT from the last thread-that cushy Belkin lap desk looks wonderful. I went with the iLap for my macbook. It’s good, but I wish I’d shopped around a bit before buying it. This is my first laptop and I had no idea there were so many options out there.
btw, here is call and FAX information for anyone who wants it.
Mr. ReddHedd found the lap desk for me, and it really is quite comfy, I have to say.
what biodun said. If post has your byline, its an automatic Must Read Entire Thing.
For what it’s worth I argued against the SSP a couple of months ago over here. When you start thinking about it, it gets harder and harder to support.
And may I suggest that we digg this post and that post to spread the word?
State Secrets in the Homeland!
Love the youtube with this post. Quite appropriate.
The quickest and most direct way to get the answers to these questions is for the House Judiciary to begin an Impeachment Inquiry. There may be screams of ‘Executive Privilege!’ from the White House, but they will be ignored. I wonder if Nancy Pelosi is secretly worried that Bush would defy Congress in this, too, and what recourse would we then have?
Just felt right, somehow. Glad you enjoyed it.
BTW, for those of you with primaries on Tuesday, how are things looking where you are?
In Georgia, I’d say Obama and Huckleberry Hound. These folks here “don’t feel like they” can’t vote for no pagan or liberal.
here in Minneapolis/Edina/St. Louis Park, my youngsters (21 & 24) are planning to caucus. They’re Obama/Al Franken supporters. I plan to caucus for the first time in my life. I support Franken, was an Edwards supporter so we’ll see what happens. I live just over the Mpls border in Edina, a rich republican stronghold. It’s getting rather purple these days.
The StarTribune, which has turned into a right-wing rag, headlined Obama & Romney’s appearances attracting supporters here yesterday. It noted that almost 20,000 Obama supporters showed up at Target Center in downtown Minneapolis (my daughters were there); it noted “crowds” meeting Romney in Edina, i had to go online to find out only a few hundred people showed up for Romney. Yet Obama & Romney were given equal billing on front page. I can’t believe my roomie still subscribes to that rag. *spits*
This was on C-SPAN2 at 10am ET and will be repeated at 5pm ET. Woman of the House: The Rise of Nancy Pelosi
Author: Vincent Bzdek.
I listened to most of it. The author & audience do not share our sentiments about Madame Speaker. They are all very flattering. It’s very much worth a listen if you want to see the world thru Pelosi’s eyes & those of her supporters, something we have a great deal of trouble with.
Short version: preserving D unity & liberalism.
That, as much as anything, tells you why “impreachment is off the table.”
Amen! And this would be an excellent post to Spotlight! More sunlight!!!
Bob in HI
BTW, for those of you with primaries on Tuesday, how are things looking where you are?
umm, from here in Indiana, where the primary is May 6, we’re looking – from afar…
You’re welcome, Christy. I’ve always been curious about the kinda coffee you drink…*g* And you know you remain an inspiration for me. Again, your research is always impeccable. My challenge is not to take it for granted, since I always expect it and I’m never disappointed each time. Thanks much for everything! Even though I’ve said all this before, it clearly doesn’t hurt to say it again from time to time…
through futility lenses
I don’t think that the opinion on Speaker Pelosi is unanimous here, either, FWIW. It’s not a single issue consideration for me, for example — there are a lot of things to like as well, I just don’t get nearly enough time to highlight them. Her office has been really helpful to me, for example, in getting information about the civil rights and pay equity legislation that is percolating up through the House and Senate at the moment — which we’ll be discussing tomorrow, among other things, for the First Monday series. It’s important legislation to them — they’ve done a lot of work pushing it among the Dem caucus, but that goes on behind the scenes and the media doesn’t report on that “in the trenches” work much at all because it’s isn’t glamorous or infotainment-y enough.
Obama & Clinton visits this last week (big turnout for each)….. two by Clinton in one week and Michelle Obama will be in Tucson tomorrow…. that is amazing for AZ… Lots of their TeeVee commercials on all the networks and cable. The Gov Janet has cut several commercials too which are running for Obama.
Moveon called last night asking me to vote for BO…. only sign was a single Hillary sign otherwise it is Ron Paul signs everywhere….. some professional and lots of homemade signs. Oh did see two Romney signs yesterday…..
Saw a single McCain commercial this weekend…. first pic is a young McC with Reagan and then with the left side of his face in deep shadows…. just want everyone to remember he had extensive radical surgery for skin cancer a couple of years ago…. It is a question to ask especially in view of who will be his VP pick…..
wish I’d thought of that… *g*
Yes, I can see how a coupla hundred and 20,000 seem fairly equal. *g*
Obama supposedly has MN wired. My critter Keith Ellison (MN-05), Minneapolis, is a supporter. And so is Betty McCollom, the critter for MN-04, St Paul. So Obama will carry the Twin Cities for sure. Outer state, we’ll see. I plan to caucus for Edwards, since I can’t make up my mind between Hill and Obama.
Cut ‘em some slack. The difference is only two orders of magnitude.
OT, will be planting a victory garden this year in preparation for the Republican collapse of the economy. When will the Dems begin to hang the albatross of Herbert Hoover around the Republicans necks. Why anyone would think that they are stewards of the economy is beyond me.
Betty McCollum…
1,744 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Best way ta get ALL the shit outta the closets and into the sunlight is for Conyers ta start an impeachment hearing…ya might get some a the truth about 9/11 into the arena before the elections too. It’s the best way ta get rid of some fascist fellow travelers in the Democratic congress.
KEEP THE FAITH…THE TRUTH AND DEMOCRACY WON’T LIVE WITHOUT SACRIFICE!!
Tangentially related, and I had to share. I’m reading Among the Dead Cities by A.C. Grayling. I’m at a part where he’s talking about establishing the procedures for post-war [WWII] prosecutions of war criminals.
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Tell it to Mukasey.
i’m glad that pelosi’s office give you good access – but as far as governance goes, i think she is horrible. i don’t like her policies, i don’t like her dishonesty and i really don’t like her bullying.
So… we have a new FISA law proposal that transfers liability from the telecoms to the government in every pending and future lawsuit, yes?
What would be the expected court argument for the Feds’ attorneys? “Your honor, we move for dismissal because to pursue this would compromise state secrets.”
I think the Dems are getting rolled on this one. Again.
I’m coming late to this really fine post, Christy. You’ve encapsulated the constitutional issues which seem like they ought to be apparent to every adult American.
I have wondered whether the makeup of the Supreme Court and probably most federal courts after radical conservative appointments during the past 30 years, has been a key factor in Congress’s hesitance to pursue impeachment or draw lined in the sand with the executive branch. If I remember Watergate correctly, a large number of executive branch contentions had to be challenged in court by Senate and House committees before evidence sufficient to support impeachment charges could be accummulated. At that time, the court rulings were generally protective of the Consititution. The loss of such consitutional issues, when brought before ultra conservative courts, would be a major setback, and possibly fatal to the restoration of the Constitution.
Possibly, they think the best way is to tread water until some restoration of balanced courts can assure victory for the Constitution. I don’t know, just trying to figure the reluctance to go to battle over these fundamental issues.
to link my comment on pelosi with the issue of secrecy and non-accountability as it relates to the dems historic role in this are two recent great reads from robert parry:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/012908.html
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/013108.html
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My point wasn’t the access on this — it was that her office has been working very hard behind the scenes on the civil rights legislation issue, but they haven’t tried to take any public credit for it at all. That actually happens much more than people know — and one of the reasons they stay behind the scenes is that she is such a lightning rod on the right and on the left, and they know they can be more effective in the short run by not making it about reputation rehab for her but instead sticking to doing the work.
And I thought people should know that, because, frankly, I think that’s a more admirable way to do business than making it about ego and reputation.
well, i can’t see what good her office has been doing – but i can she how the house leadership fucked us over on fisa last august. i can see how the house dem leadership fucked over rush holt twice on the first go around on the restore act last fall.
i’m not taking about ego – i’m talking about evidence. ‘cuz i just don’t see it.
Yes, and again, I was talking specifically about this particular legislative issue and a number of others that they are trying to pass. They aren’t perfect — far from it — but we don’t do ourselves any favors demonizing them entirely when there are instances where they are working toward goals that we all want to see happen.
Carrot and stick…
… continuing…
what i’ve been seeing is, lots of talk about how hard they are trying to do right – but every single time the leadership could actually do something to help, they manipulate the process to make it look like they are trying – but in fact, they are insuring failure.
christy, you may very well be right… but i can’t dismiss the evidence in front of me without some better evidence. i really hope you can give me more than “working very hard behind the scenes,” otherwise you’re asking me to believe you instead of my lying eyes.
Well, as I’m trying to fix lunch for my family and managing a 4 year old’s temper tantrum at the moment, you’ll have to take me at my word until I can give you more. It’s been all I could do to get posts written this morning…someone is less than happy with Momma’s constant computer time this morning. So you’ll have to give me a little time to line out something more thoroughly.
christy! i wasn’t expecting a fully documented thesis before nap time! lol…
more just trying to explain why i’m not quite with you on this one… maybe i will be tomorrow. especially as i find more time to read. i don’t think the process of convincing someone (me or anyone else) usually happens in one discussion or one post… it’s a process – and i promise to try to keep an open mind. because your opinion is one i take very seriously, even when i think i disagree.
Am just feeling a bit stretched thin today, I think. Thanks, selise…one of those days where I don’t feel like I’m satisfying anyone, but running in place fast as I can. Ya know? *g*
the government has been shielding it’s members since 1870. they belong to a club, an elite group that is bonded by blood or by deeds. when the public comes to grips with that then maybe we can start to heal this country and all that we have harmed along the way. but my guess is that it’s never going to happen because below the surface it’s so ugly that most dare not face it. from the attempted coup of 1933(i’ll add that most of the families involved with that are still running the show today)to operation northwoods and phoenix to the assassinations of jfk rfk mlk malcolm x etc. the list goes on and on and this country always puts the past behind us to “heal the nation” as they say. but really what they’re saying is “we will protect our members at any cost”. there is no chance of righting this ship until the american public says “enough”.
i’m sorry to hear that, and i’m VERY sorry to know that i contributed to it.
sometime i focus too much on the details of the argument (argument as in analysis NOT argument as in fight), and forget that people (me too!) will naturally take comments personally. it doesn’t matter much if i don’t mean it personally, when i haven’t communicated that.
anyway, it’s been a long time (too long) since i last said thank you.
thank you christy! thank you for all your posts and all your work behind the scenes (about which i have no doubts, unlike some body i mentioned above).
please, please don’t think my love of argument is any way expressing dissatisfaction – on the contrary, it’s the way i learn the best – when my perspective is questioned and i question alternative perspectives. i know that i really need to find a way to express that clearly up front, instead of explaining after i’ve already caused aggravation.
…. and i don’t know if you caught my comment a few days ago… but really do hope that some day you write a book about all your experiences that you are going through now. especially the stuff you feel you can’t talk about now – maybe someday you will be able to. in any event, please take good notes now… just in case!
I sincerely believe that this is the one pledge that should be asked of both Democratic candidates, and the sooner the better, ” Will you pledge to restore transparency to and shed sunlight on the choices of the executive branch to the present, the future, and, most importantly, THE RECENT PAST?”
A candidate who demures from this statement should not be elected, period.
I feel we keep going around in circles, or what I call a closed loop situation. We complain, have very good answers to resolve those complaints, get no appreciable response by our politicians, raise more complaints, etc, etc. My point being is we are getting nowhere, and haven’t for the past 7 years.
Hope and a need to “hang in there and keep trying” is said many times here and on numerous other progressive blogs. But discouragement has started to take hold at a level that is new even to this blog.
So working on the belief that actions speak louder than words, I would to like to reintroduce a suggestion that I have made a couple of times before, on this and a few other blogs. A country wide boycott or strike, on purchasing anything other than that which is essential.
As is so happens, having such a boycott would fit in nicely with the current economic crisis, since people have fewer dollars to spend. But more importantly, it would affect primarily those who are making money off of other people labor. And if the concern is that people would be laid off because demand is less, that is happening already.
Since consumer spending constitutes a large percentage of GDP, a month of so of boycotting would indeed get the attention of politicians and the business world. But most importantly, it would tell the American public that indeed, they do have power, and if wielded effectively, can have a very profound and positive effect.
Addendum the my remark. It probably better applies to Christy’s “not so perfect world”, but the larger point was an attempt to get the politician’s attention, whatever the cause.
How, exactly, do we “win” by destroying the very notions on which this nation is founded?
Thank you. Very good question. I wish to see Bush answer it.
Great posts, Christy, and the only attention being given the vital votes Reid is insisting on tomorrow. Between the equal distractions of the Super Bowl and Super Tuesday, not even the liberal blogs and news sites have breathed a word about the rule of law being destroyed tomorrow in the US Senate.
I’d especially like to respond to Crosstimber’s comment: “You’ve encapsulated the constitutional issues which seem like they ought to be apparent to every adult American.” Ought to be, but aren’t because half the population doesn’t know what the constitution guarantees, the media doesn’t cover these “process” issues, and the public is told over and over that such things are boring. But Tom Brady’s every syllable is momentous. Sunday’s NY Times did not say word one, in news or op-ed sections, about these impending votes and the underlying issues of legality and rights. I guess Risen’s subpoena stopped any further discussion–at least until after McCain’s inauguration. America needs a cold shower. Gatorade, anyone?