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	<title>Comments on: Democratic Cave on Stimulus Package:  The Glories Of &#8220;Bipartisanship&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246894</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry Jane…does look like the Senate did break down, too. Didn’t see this article about the Senate Republicans threatening to block the bill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/us/01fiscal.html?ref=business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senate Democrats may not be able to forward stimulus bill&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Funny how the Republicans never get called on “stopping the stimulus plan” from going forward.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First I’d require the Republicans to vote down the stimulus bill. Then I’d have them have to extract the components in open votes that relate to Food Stamps and SSI. get them on the record.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then Reid should pare off the top 20% of those that were to receive the tax rebate…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That would essentially be the House Bill but without the people making over $125K.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then Reid should forward a separate supplemental stimulus bill to the floor with those folks above $125K covered+Food Stamps+ a one-time SSI increase. Expand the stimulus to the wealthier and the poorer (although not the absolutely rich). Then put that up for the Republicans to have to vote on as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Conference Committee could then work out a compromise on the first bill’s differences…and likely would give back the difference,. But the Repugs in the Senate would be on record as voting against not only the elderly and poorest of the poor, but also the better off Middle Class.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jane…does look like the Senate did break down, too. Didn’t see this article about the Senate Republicans threatening to block the bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/us/01fiscal.html?ref=business" rel="nofollow">Senate Democrats may not be able to forward stimulus bill</a></p>
<p>Funny how the Republicans never get called on “stopping the stimulus plan” from going forward.</p>
<p>First I’d require the Republicans to vote down the stimulus bill. Then I’d have them have to extract the components in open votes that relate to Food Stamps and SSI. get them on the record.</p>
<p>Then Reid should pare off the top 20% of those that were to receive the tax rebate…</p>
<p>That would essentially be the House Bill but without the people making over $125K.</p>
<p>Then Reid should forward a separate supplemental stimulus bill to the floor with those folks above $125K covered+Food Stamps+ a one-time SSI increase. Expand the stimulus to the wealthier and the poorer (although not the absolutely rich). Then put that up for the Republicans to have to vote on as well. </p>
<p>The Conference Committee could then work out a compromise on the first bill’s differences…and likely would give back the difference,. But the Repugs in the Senate would be on record as voting against not only the elderly and poorest of the poor, but also the better off Middle Class.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246846</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane…did I miss something in the last few days? THIS is a done deal????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this the result of the Conference Committee working out the differences between the two Houses? I utterly missed any news on this? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your link only discusses the HOUSE bill, not the SENATE bill. So in your posting shouldn’t there either be reference to the Conference Committee caving in (did they?) Or that this analysis only concerns the Boehner-Pelosi sell-out of Seniors on SSI, the folks who don’t file tax forms, and the people who are at the very bottom of the economic ladder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane…did I miss something in the last few days? THIS is a done deal????</p>
<p>Is this the result of the Conference Committee working out the differences between the two Houses? I utterly missed any news on this? </p>
<p>Your link only discusses the HOUSE bill, not the SENATE bill. So in your posting shouldn’t there either be reference to the Conference Committee caving in (did they?) Or that this analysis only concerns the Boehner-Pelosi sell-out of Seniors on SSI, the folks who don’t file tax forms, and the people who are at the very bottom of the economic ladder.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246822</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excuse me–They should change the name of the 110th Congress to the “Democrats Cave Congress/aka Democrats Become Bush Slaves Congress.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me–They should change the name of the 110th Congress to the “Democrats Cave Congress/aka Democrats Become Bush Slaves Congress.”</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246819</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can save and paste that Democrats Cave headline for just about any vote, can’t you?  They should change the name of the 100th Congress to the “Democrats Cave Congress/aka Democrats Become Bush Slaves Congress.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can save and paste that Democrats Cave headline for just about any vote, can’t you?  They should change the name of the 100th Congress to the “Democrats Cave Congress/aka Democrats Become Bush Slaves Congress.”</p>
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		<title>By: broadbrush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246356</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a very high mountain to climb to regain control of our country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very high mountain to climb to regain control of our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246337</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The changiness is going to take place via Barack’s faith-based bipartisanship and doncha know. I’ll just let &lt;i&gt;history&lt;/i&gt; pass me by thank you -as I did this morning rather than attending the Obamarama.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The changiness is going to take place via Barack’s faith-based bipartisanship and doncha know. I’ll just let <i>history</i> pass me by thank you -as I did this morning rather than attending the Obamarama.</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246255</link>
		<dc:creator>Praedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just once I would like to see a story about how the Dems &lt;i&gt;didn’t&lt;/i&gt; cave on something.  Just one little story about how they held firm and faced down the pathetic GOP and the despised Bush.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Instead, we get the despised and weak &lt;i&gt;majority&lt;/i&gt; Dems caving to the despised and pathetic GOP and the despised Bush.  The result?  A Congress (under the DEMOCRATS) that is more unpopular than Bush is!  There is a REASON the Congress is despised:  the Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just once I would like to see a story about how the Dems <i>didn’t</i> cave on something.  Just one little story about how they held firm and faced down the pathetic GOP and the despised Bush.</p>
<p>Instead, we get the despised and weak <i>majority</i> Dems caving to the despised and pathetic GOP and the despised Bush.  The result?  A Congress (under the DEMOCRATS) that is more unpopular than Bush is!  There is a REASON the Congress is despised:  the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246234</link>
		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, I’ll vote you in, then I’m relentlessly coming after you until the soles of your feet feel the boiling point of hell.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love it, QuakerGirl. :) And thanks to Jane and Pach for giving me a much-needed ironic laugh that helps to assure me that I’m not crazy and that at least some people see all this the way I do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, I’ll vote you in, then I’m relentlessly coming after you until the soles of your feet feel the boiling point of hell.</p>
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<p>I love it, QuakerGirl. :) And thanks to Jane and Pach for giving me a much-needed ironic laugh that helps to assure me that I’m not crazy and that at least some people see all this the way I do.</p>
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		<title>By: frahse</title>
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		<dc:creator>frahse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a group the Democrats don’t do much better than the Republicans, and sometimes line right up with them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is sad to have to say that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are all politicians and are more alike than different.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a group the Democrats don’t do much better than the Republicans, and sometimes line right up with them. </p>
<p>It is sad to have to say that.</p>
<p>They are all politicians and are more alike than different.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/02/democratic-cave-on-stimulus-package-the-glories-of-bipartisanship/#comment-1246209</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am sure that the Democrats can dug their heels in on anything&lt;br /&gt;
they wanted to, but sadly, they have become so anti-progressives that even when it is the right thing to do, they side with the Reublicans just to send a message….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that the Democrats can dug their heels in on anything<br />
they wanted to, but sadly, they have become so anti-progressives that even when it is the right thing to do, they side with the Reublicans just to send a message….</p>
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