OK - somebody's gonna be elected President in November - perhaps even the person voters have selected.
Ambitious pols come and go. No matter which of them sits in the Oval Office, Earth will continue her elliptical orbit. Earth's thin blue skin - the biosphere - is less robust. Over the last few centuries, we human monkeys have become so good at moving stuff around, digging holes, burning stuff, and mounding up stuff that we are one of the two greatest global forces determining the surface of our planet - otherwise known as the biosphere.
We busy monkeys do so much to change our planet - and we've been doing it so well - that we've created our own planetary Epoch: the Anthropocene.
And the other dominant force shaping our planet's surface?
Climate - now also disrupted by human activity.
We clever human monkeys have burnt so much to grow stuff, move stuff, pile stuff up, blow stuff up, break stuff down...
We've burnt so much that...
We have changed the chemical compostion of the seas and the skies. The carbon gases from our burning have dissolved in seawater, changing our oceans from the lifeblood of tiny swimming creatures to an acid which dissolves their bodies. The carbon gases we and our ancestors have spewed into the air have changed the air we breathe into an oven which will roast us.
Most of these carbon gases belched out of the smokestacks - and later the tailpipes - of Europeans and the nations their progeny stole from the First Peoples of the Americas and the Aborigines of Australia. Over the last few decades, the clever humans in Asia have begun to burn so much in their efforts to grow stuff, move stuff, and the like that their carbon gases play an increasing role in changing our sky to a lethal trap - for all of us.
So what does this have to do with the ambitious pol who will decide what to put on the Oval Ofice wall after Shrub and his favored horse thief turn tail for Crawford?
After all, neither Obama nor Hillary will have any claim to be "Leader of the Free World". The last seven years of Rethug tyranny and the slavish obeisance of what passes for the Democratic oppostion make that boast risible - and sad.
And even a decade before the Rethugs' 2000 coup, when South Africa threw off decades of apartheid and moved into democracy, the newly liberated South Africa looked at the US model - and rejected it, choosing instead the representative systems used by "Old Europe".
Old Europe, you see, has been more resistant to corporate rule than has America's young democracy and her endless appetite for campaign funds bribes.
Though America has lost her capacity to inspire, under corporatist rule (Rethug and Dem) America has grown her capacity to compel, intimidate, demand, and destroy. The "Washington Consensus" ruthlessly enforced by the IMF, World Bank, and "Fair Trade" False Trade institutions like the WTO provides the "soft power" to compel whole nations to discard their wealth, health, and self-interest - trading their futures for treaties a few scraps of paper ferried home by their corrupt leaders.
When the Consensus' our enforcers' "soft power" isn't enough, our bloated military spending - greater than the sum of all the other military budgets on our sorry world - provdes the power to smash and grab the corporatists' treasure du jour.
Or - as we found in Iraq - the power to smash, but not to grab.
The ambitious pol who sits in the Oval Office after next January 20 will assume all this power.
The ambitious pol will also assume control of a whole network of Executive Branch "regulatory" power which previous Rethug and Dem pols have wholly turned over to the corporatists who - thanks to the DLC - now own both parties.
The ambitious pol will also inherit the wrack and ruin of our trillion dollars (and counting) of lethal folly in Iraq; the collapse of our Gilded Age's crowning "achievement" - the housing bubble; concurrent crushing defecits in balance of payments and Federal budgets; and a devalued dollar increasingly distrusted as a reserve currency.
The ambitious pol will inherit a "budget" we - and Earth's thin blue surface - cannot and never could afford. This "budget" sluices immense subsidies into lethal policies and suicidal practices while leaving our people ill-fed, ill-housed, and ill from want of care.
This "budget" enriches the wealthiest families in America - those sucking off the corporate welfare teat at Walmart, Cargill, ADM, Hospital Corporation of America, the Westlands Water District, the Wall Street Ponzi houses, etc - and the deadliest corporations: Monsanto, Exxon, General Electric, Boeing, Rayethon, Blackwater, and the like.
This "budget" - through the inexorable combination of regressive payroll taxation and sclerosed support for children, families, and the working poor - ensures that Americans have less social mobility than the free people of "Old Europe" - and far greater obligations to enrich the wealthiest global investors.
This "budget" spews Federal currency into a monetary hydraulic saw that mows down forests, fisheries, rivers, communities, our children, our parents, and our own health - all pulverised by Federal subsidies that destroy America and the people who live in her.
While the subsidies murder us and our future, they further enrich only the tiny slice of mega-wealthy who sit atop the corporatist party - and have purchased both the Rethugs' and the Dems' power.
And the time frame for us? Already Americans can look forward to a decline in expected life expectancy. Ours is the first generation since at least the Civil War era in which those born now will live fewer years than their parents may expect. They will be more likely to develop cancer and other toxin-induced ills....more likely to "acheive" obesity as children from a diet of Federally subsizied swill....more likely to develop diabetes....
The time frame for the thin blue skin of life on our only planet? Well, we already are warming - and catastrophic feedback will cause run-away warming if the total change exceeds 2 degrees C. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) calculated that to avoid 2 degrees of warming total human carbon gas output must be reduced from 2000 levels a total of eighty-five percent - by 2050. The IPCC did not have the benefit of more recent data - the recent data suggests that industrial carbon gas output must be eliminated - reduced to near zero - by 2050 to avoid runaway warming.
So....the good news is?
The good news is that the first (elected) President of the Anthropocene will have a once in an Epoch opportunity to save the whole frakkin' biosphere - or sacrifice it to the corporatists.
And....more good news?
After almost three decades of corporatist rule:
- America's roads are clogged and crumbling.
- The United States' manufactuing output has dwindled.
- Whole industries have left our shores.
- New manufacturing jobs are ancient history.
- The men graduating this year from America's high schools will be poorer than their fathers.
- Real wages haven't increased since the mid-seventies.
- Oil has increased 400% in six years.
- We're increasingly more often to find the only housing we can afford traps us in our cars, leaving no time for family - much less walking or community.
- Petroleum-derived industrial chemicals (including pesticides/herbicides - like Roundup) are associated with - and likely contibute to - incresaing rates of infertility, behavioral/learning disorders, and cancers.
- The GMO's concealed in our crops and food sicken and kill lab animals - yet we can not opt out of the experiment.
- As a nation, we are fatter, more sedentary, less able, and sicker than our parents at the same age.
So this is good news?
For the First President of the Anthropocene, yes.
A glance at their to-do list shows why:
1) Global Warming: America's devastated manufacturing/transport base is a tragedy...and an opportunity to rebuild the base and remploy our people - with carbon-neutral technology. And a carbon tax. Duh.
2) Precautionary principle: America's health system is broke - and broken. Much of our increase in disease is from exposure to toxic substances. Union Carbide, Monsanto and the like have duped us into believing bribed our "regulators" and "leaders" into acting out the lie that "chemicals have rights". Bullshit. People have rights - the goddamn labs are there to serve us, not the other way round.
Big Test Tube currently bribes writes the toxic substance rules so our children must die before the precious spawn from one of Big Test Tube's vats is pulled from the market. The PP - already law in the EU - restores OUR rights by demanding the frakkin' chemicals are shown NOT to risk our health before they're ever ON the market.
3) GMO crops: These mutants are often designed to require vast inputs from (fossil-fuel derived) toxic chemicals - and through the miracle of botany, each GMO crop pollutes North America with mutant pollen, spreading the madness every year. Europeans won't even buy this shit: we nuture and subsidize it. The lie that GMO's are just as safe as real crops was invented by the natural philosopher Dan Quayle ... perhaps building on his expertise with the potatoe. The First President of the Anthropocene (FPOTA - no "E") can end this insane decree with a stroke of the Executive Pen...er...Power Order.
GMO organisms have already shown the capacity to end Ag as we know it ...and thus Life As We Know It.
If they are serious about their Oath of Office, FPOTA will issue that Order before choosing the Oval Carpet. And the Executive Order forbidding (further) outdoor release of any living GMO - until such time as release is demonstrated to satisy the PP.
4) Subsidized Homicide/Ecocide: You name the ecosystem, community, or creature (including humans) and America - that's you and me, pups - is paying some industry and megacorp(s) to kill it.
The Forest Service and Bureau of Land "Management" subsidize below-cost logging. USFS has already built enough logging roads to reach to the moon...and we pay to build them for the loggers. We - in the form of our rivers and valleys - pay for the erosison and mudlsides the subsidized logging causes. Destroying the forests increases carbon gases - no one is directly charged, but we all pay. And the Shrub/Darth death cult just gave away another 3 million acres of Alaskan forest.
Same thing with ethanol subsidies: industry is paid to increase carbon gases - and use the world's food to do it, killing directly and indirectly. All on our dimes - billions of 'em. All on our nation's topsoil - washed to the sea in a river of subsidies.
Same thing with subsidies for oil and gas production on public lands. Same thing with hard rock mining - the Federal Act largely unchanged since 1872 with no royalties to the Treasury, costs passed on to local communites. (Also just like the 19th century.) Same thing with most Federal water subsidies - intended largely for family farms up to a few hundred acres, now sucked up by megafarms for (subsidized) export ag. Same thing with most commodity crop farm subsidies - we are paying to slough off our topsoil, spread pesticides through our kids, burn fuel we don't have to pump water we can't replace - and burning huge amounts of fossil fuel to do it all. Just so a relative handful of investors get big checks - and we and the biosphere wither and die.
All paid for through Federal subsidies.
And all those subidies? They are the real wealth FPOTA will have to fund our nation's carbon-neutral rebuilding and re-industrialization - and to refund reclaiming our forests and rivers, soil and waters, cities and transport from the corporatists. And to create good, well-paying jobs, safe workplaces, and green industrial methods in doing so.
To remake our economy for our families and our posterity - rather than to reap it (and us) for distant investors' lifeless quarterly earnings.
To reclaim America's natural wealth and national Treasury for us, our children, and our communities.
To let us live - and live well.
We can, and we shall.
As soon as FPOTA stops sacrificing our nation - and us - on the corporatists' altar to the Free Market Cult.
This post is already long enough too long. In the next part, I'll look with you at what we know of the two active Dem candidates' history with these matters. That's not my focus tonight - I hope in the comments we can look past the horserace to the more basic issues the Anthropocene will pose for any leader - and for us.
The sad truth is that - under corporatist rule - our media and "leaders" have said so little about the lethal risks of our current "economy" that neither major candidate has articulated clear awareness - much less cogent answers - for America on the cusp of the Anthopocene.
That's our job - here at the net and throughout the thinking world. Once we figure out the answers, some ambitious pol can pick them up and claim credit. Same as it ever was.
So...tonigh: what answers, what solutions can we share as the Anthropocene dawns?
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What’s up, Doc? *g*
hi kirk
Well, no zed so will read the post… Hi Doc…
Dream back the bison. Sing back the swan.
well i guess it is a good thing that the rapture is coming. or messianic times. or something.
*g*
Humans are not monkeys.
Humans are apes.
Yes, I’m a pedant.
Ethanol use is destroying one lung of the world, the Amazon River Basin… They’re burning vast tracts of it to plant sugar cane to power the Brazilian autos…
Just depends on what humans you are talking about, I guess.
hi folks - and senahj, I’m glad I’m not the only pedant on this post. Thanks!
As a cancer survivor….. what chemicals were filtered through my kidneys or what gene was perverted to make that tumor grow?
WOW Kirk…. nice cheery post today…
Trees pollute (Reagan). There’s no evidence of global warming (Bush). We may already be a dying planet. But we must try and do something. It’s essential. We believe. And so does most of the rest of the world. If we are broiling ourselves, nothing else matters.
We have shit in our own nest and the biosphere is in the process of making corrections. Unfortunately, for the human species, those corrections are not going to be pleasant.
Hi katymine -
on the bright side, its a target-rich environment.
In all seriousness, I wish I could answer your question about your tumor - and so many other folks’.
We are now bathed in multiple toxins - and the syngergistic consequences of the stew any one of carries about is compleely unkown. What is known is that greater the number of toxins we carry, the more “target-rich” our own bodies become.
{{{{ Dr Kirk! }}}} Your posts always speak to my most passionate beliefs and concerns.
What i try to do: eat in-season local, organic food; not use my car unless i have multiple errands i can do; replace lawn with native prairie perennials to provide food/habitat for birds/insects.
Well they’re some serious ‘clusters’ out there that need to be addressed…
“” what answers, what solutions can we share as the Anthropocene dawns? “”
Well, simple solution that evades most is slowing down on the freeway. Eighty miles an hour instead of 58 burns about 15 % more fuel. And the satisfaction of keeping more money in my pockets is grand. Oh yes, get rid of that V-8 first.
Steve-AR, I believe the correction swill be disruptive - but for the industrialized Western democacies - all dying of over-consumption - I takae hope in the data showing that we don’t get happier when we accumulate beyond a fraily basic standard of living. After that point, all we do is work more, get more unhappy, and get sicker.
The prize goes to the first pol who believes - and convinces us - we’ll have more fun buying less crap.
What I have done since surgery….. cleaned out my cabinets of high fructose corn syrup… now buy food at the farmers market which is “organic” and only buy food that I can read the ingredients.
Phoenix has farmer markets popping up all over the place with fresh organic veggies, raw milk (shhhh don’t tell because it is illegal), free range eggs and cheese.
Next time we talk about ’security moms’ — this is what we talk about. My kids shouldn’t die to make Monsanto rich, or Aetna rich, or Big Oil rich. Excellent, if not terribly cheery post.
My bet is that only necessity (such as a massive depression or disaster)–not a pol–will teach us the joys of non-consuming.
ndf and Quebecois - thanks for sharing your solutions.
This cold winter night is a great time for lurkers to coome join us by teh e-fire at the Lake. We’re all in the toxic stew together - and all or our skills will be needed to clean up this mess.
So - lurkers and de-lurked - what solutions can we give the ambitious pols?
We can save so much money if we just went hybrid. Imagine every dollar saved on gas if we went Hybrid was instead spent in OUR ECONOMY!
Plus we can save the planet. I like to frame arguments in ways my opponents can understand.
Now then it is only the GOP’s wanting to believe in Milton Friedman economics and not sound investing ideas that force the GOP to keep fighting this war for oil.
“They just can’t quit you” Iraq, even though they are losing the war because that would mean admitting that they are wrong and losing money on top of that. Harvard MBA CEO President my A$$
I have a natural lawn, too. Sandspurs, dandelions and a variety of local weed species. No fertilizer and no watering other than natural rainfall. My neighbors don’t like it much b/c the weeds spread to their yards. They use professional chemical yard spray service and well water for irrigation. I mow my natural lawn. It looks normal from a distance after mowing, but one dare not walk on it for the horrific sandspurs. The birds like it very much.
When I was recovering from surgery….. watched a lot of CSpan and the one hearing that I wanted to IM the congresscritters to ask…. it was the food hearing about safety of “gassed” meats and the industry big wigs saying OH it is so safe and that their is a chain of custody…. blah blah blah….
MY question….. “Would you feed your food to your child or grandchild for the rest of their natural life?” …”Is your food that safe?”
In case we’re wondering how Obama might be as FPOTA, check out this scary piece from today’s NYTimes.
Not only is he saying he passed legislation he never passed, but his biggest donors are the nuclear power industry leaders. As an ardent environmentalist, that ends my question of Clinton or Obama. Well, I didn’t trust him from the beginning and this nails it for me.
As Caesar said as he crossed the Rubicon…”iacta alea esta”, well it is looking like the die has been cast for significant climate change. The tipping point seems to have taken place in the mid 80’s when the ice began to melt.
Understand the opportunity cost in ‘cheap’ oil and cheap food — subsidizing health care and sponsoring government-funded research into green technologies would be a good start. Restoring FDA and Ag Departments as government agencies that function for citizens instead of the corporations they regulate would be another.
OT but important news. Has anyone been following the cut internet cables in the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf. Supposedly, Iran is totally cut off from the internet. And much of internet is down or very slowed in that region of the world. Ostensibly the cables are buried very deep and only countries with submarines or some such sea vehicles could have done this. here is one link, but also check out BuzzFlash. I have been watching this story since the first cable was cut on Wed. They kept sayiong it was a ship’s anchor. But now there have been 3 and maybe 4 cables cut. Is Iran on the front burner? Cut off the communication. tried and true tactic. http://dailyscare.com/2955/cut.....ting-fuses
Kirk,
The oceans are very voluminous and I don’t doubt that CO2 is mixing in there a bit but do you think it CO2 is what has fouled the oceans? My sense is it is mostly from spilling waste off the land and into rivers and then the oceans.
If that is the case we might be polluting the oceans for a very long time even if we burn no fossil fuels.
Sadly, I have as much eco-dirt to heap on one major Dem as I do the other. We’ll be lookinng in detail at their (sorry) records in the next part. Tonight’s a great opportunity for us to share our strenghts - we’ll have plenty of time to focus on their weaknesses.
Dragging boat anchors..That’s the explanation..yea right!!
Grow low THC Hemp a renewable crop that grows like a weed even without fertilizer and stop using trees for paper. Hemp paper lasts longer that could save schools money for all the copies of Romeo and Juliet and all the other books schools buy but have to replaced every few years.
Maybe the entire 5th Fleet?
I think what needs to be done is we need to cut the population down and pay people not to reproduce… or give them a guaranteed certificate that if they don’t multiply they will be first in line at the pearly gates.
The planet can’t sustain this population since it requires too much energy to move food among other things.
Water is not there either.
Malthus was right.
The planet isn’t dying, it’s just going to be different. There is nothing in the chemistry and physics of the ecosystem that considers highly evolved apes “special”.
Good night folks. Going upstairs with my girl for a movie (”Starman”) and to look at the stars through the skylight in the roof above our bed. You can actually see stars here at night. And lots of lichen grow on the rocks around here. A sure sign of clean air. I’m fixing two huge shaved ice margaritas for Lahoma and me. See you later.
We were all over this toward the end of the last thread, but this story does need to be watched.
Hi SanderO
Sadly, our oceans are also “target-rich”. The basic chemistry of carbon dioxide dissolving to increase global oceanic pH is quite establishes. The oceans also recieve all the intrinsicly toxic stuff (pollutants) that simply wash down or rivers - as well as the polluton and trash we deliberatley dump in the ocean. Another helping of poison comes from atmospheirc air pollution - with 2/3 of the planet surface comprised of the seas, that means 2/3 of the atmospheric pollution which falls to “Earth” drops into our oceans.
Voluminous as they are, our CO2 has changes the seas - and hence you are correct about the role of future CO in driving the process further.
You can’t cut an undersea cable with an anchor. Not gonna happen and those cables are in deep water where ships don’t anchor and well marked where they might.
The CIA tapped Russian cables in the cold war in Asia and knew all their codes and so forth. It is more than likely that cutting cables was mischief.
Apologies for OT, Romney way ahead in the Maine caucuses with 64% of the precincts in:
Romney 52%
McCain 22%
Paul 19%
I think it’s ultra important to discern what’s good for us and what’s not, but I doubt that additional negative energy is going to help, in the long run, the big picture.
I just worry sometimes that all the negative snark I read here isn’t going to help, but, in the end works against us.
(ducking, now, ’cause….)
USA has been fouling the seas for decades….. old munitions(standard, chemical and nuclear), old ships and tires. Some of it known and others “secret”.
The ship recycling industry is huge polluter of the seas. It is done on foreign shores with no regulation or oversight.
That was a joke..some entity is up to no good..it’s intentional.
Go Mittens!!!!
Hi backacha.
This was one helluva day for information at the Lake. I was away and just caught up reading the earlier discussions.
I am so impressed by these discussions and especially the front pagers.
FDL is da bomb!
We could also focus our attention on energy costs associated with older homes. These homes tend to be smaller and cheaper than the well-sealed McMansions and condos with more efficient HVAC systems. When we moved from our 100 year old home to a 2 year old home with twice the square footage, our energy bills went down — not relatively less expensive, at least $30 less a month apiece. If we had some kind of CCC project to get homeowners and landlords to replace windows, add insulation and replace old furnaces with more efficient HVAC systems we could greatly reduce our energy use. It can also make some money for local businesses and save less affluent and older homeowners utlities cost.
i don’t know if you’re in the right zone for these plants, but this place is a “bible” to me. My previous home’s soil was mostly sand, sandburs definitely happy there, but the love-sand native perennials did even better & crowded out the undesirables.
I wouldn’t label it as negativism, I prefer pragmatism instead…
What part of we have no place to put Nuclear waste does the GOP not understand? What part of how are we going to ship nuclear waste to a disposal site cross country without worrying about Ossama (who is still out there).
The cost of cleaning up a whole state or two must be figured in when we discuss nuclear power. Especially given how the GOP likes to ride infrastructure into the ground rather than do required maintenance.
demi. oone of the most difficult challenges I see in this task is finding the best way to describe the immensity of the problems we face without causing despair (or aversive condtioning). I had the chance to run this problem by Thom Hartmann earlier, but I’m sure it will be an ongoing tactical and strategic concern. I’m glad you’ve shared your perspective.
(and now I’m wondering about the existence of “anti-snark” particles and their impact on the body politic :)
We treat the planet like a huge dump and think that everything gets “naturally” recycled.
Well, it does, but at the same time we are “terraforming” the world into something which will be less and less hospitable to our comfy niche in the ecosystem.
The earth doesn’t care, it will find some other balance and probably with life but without humans who with their incredibly hubris played “god” and lost.
I think the solutions we need are very radical and the decent will come at an increasing rate.
One of Gore’s proposals when he testified to congress was a program like Fanny Mae which were low interest loans to retrofit older homes to become energy efficient.
Can you believe it that my 20 yr old AZ home has single pane windows…. If I had not been hit with all those medical bills, my plan this year was to replace the windows & add more insulation in the attic. Life sucks and then the recession comes….
I wish I could be sure it was just the GOP that actively ignored our infrastructure. If Katrina and the bridge disaster didn’t wake Congress from its slumber, it’s hard to know what will.
We all have our own filters.
I hope you are right.
I have no powers.
I do trust my own instincts.
As, I’m sure, you do. :)
Well said.
True I blame Nancy and Harry for not doing their jobs.
The obvious solution is to cut marginal tax rates. This will free up capital and allow the genius of the market to work, you the same genius that brought us to this point.
Obviously.
The problems are probably worse than they are described and the “solutions” more drastic than we seem to be able to tolerate.
I think the US, in particular, and industrialized nations in general are in denial, save for a few scientists who speak out. The hubris is that “we” think we can undo it all with some clever technology, when the problems is also that there are way too many of us.
(and now I’m wondering about the existence of “anti-snark” particles and their impact on the body politic :)
Good Words.
This is an extremely important question, I think.
Keep writing and encouraging.
And, thanks for the post.
he was, maybe he didn’t have the correct data or all the valid parameters, but . . .
China is burning coal at a huge rate I am sure this is affecting the oceans. Maybe we could give them some cleaner coal tech if they promise to use it.
I hesitate to knock China because they do have higher mpg standards for their cars and their putting up wind farms like mad.
I am going for an job interview with a green design build firm. They are the exception in the industry, and their type of operation needs to be the RULE.
Tax non green products and put people to work greening our built environment. Use the DOD budget!
one point about older homes, being that the noxious chemicals are long-since outgassed, they are less likely to make people sick. I cannot spend much time in a house built in the last 7 yrs, too many chemical fumes. Carpeting is also bad news. Traps a lot of dirt, uses a lot of resources, isn’t easily recyclable.
Germany is doing coal too.
I think the common wisdom has been that climate change is happening in a slow, linear fashion and there will be time in the future to take care of the problem. There is increasing evidence, however, that major change in the environment can occur quickly and suddenly.
We were talking about this yesterday at Marcy’s place and today here. Undersea cables are being cut all the time. I had a couple cut in my backyard last week. Could happen to anybody. *g*
68% reporting
Romney 2,362 52%
McCain 958 21%
Paul 851 19%
Huckabee 268 6%
Undecided 94 2%
Good evening everyone. Kiddo has gone upstairs. It’s been a long week for him. He worries too much about everything. And I worry about him. I’m heading upstairs. Chances are he’ll already be asleep when I get there, so I will be very quiet. And I suppose that’s good. But in a couple or three or four hours I can promise you, he will be wide awake and ready to go.
L.
We need a department of Green to tackle the existing infratructure upgrades as well as guidelines for ALL new construction.
This may mean over riding local codes with national green ones.
But we need to stop building new / more. And we can’t do that unless we shrink the population~!
We also need to use our infrastructure 24/7 so that we need perhaps 1/3 the office space for example. This would also relieve traffic congestion and parking problems and so on. Interim measures but easily done with what we have now!
Will you…? *g*
Excellent points. Green building is also not the standard — cheaper building materials, especially carpets, tend to also be more plastic. I’m curious how carpets made with recycled plastic fare with regard to noxious fumes. Linoleum is making a comeback — and is a lot less harmful to the environment than vinyl flooring.
If we go with Wind and Solar we won’t need as much coal and that would help the oceans. Plus it seems to me there are allot more people with asthma and other breathing problems probably thanks to coal than when I was growing up.
James Lovelock predicts that the Human population of the planet will be about 500 million by 2100. Mechanisms of “natural correction” are quite impersonal.
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I’ll be back.. got empty the dogs… (I pick up!)
On the don’t mess with mother nature theme -
seem to be having power fluctuations (or I have visual hallucinations confined to light sources). Inner Boy Scout embarrassed to report surge protectors are…fried from last month.
Will log off and hope to rejoin soon.
Thanks to all for your time and sharing your ideas and good energy
One state’s “Green” is another state’s meddling.
Recall in CA that we are battling the Feds for “Greener” emissions rules than proposed federal guidelines, and getting punked.
When my honey and I bought this home, we picked this one over another one in the neighborhood for the energy-saving accomodations. Was 40 thousand more, but we felt good about it. I doubt we will stay here long enough to reap the benefit of dollars, but, still, it feels good.
I wonder if the mercury in coal is causing Autism?
“Track That Mud In!” Earthen Floors Are Hot
Okay, so forgoing hardwood or carpet in favor of dirt and mud may seem like going to extremes in the name of treehugging. But who can resist flooring that is this attractive, comfortable to walk on, heat-absorbing, and earth-friendly? The Times has a piece today on the growing buzz over rammed earth floors.
They are part of a small movement interested in “natural building” on the fringes of green architecture [The US Green Building Council doesn’t even mention earthen floors in its current guidelines]. But they consider green architecture to be overly focused on energy efficiency, while they are concerned with the eco-friendliness of the entire process. The idea, according to Lloyd Kahn, a former shelter editor of the Whole Earth Catalog, is to use “materials that have as little processing as
Question:
Does everything have to crash…. the economy and the environment to have everyone wake up and do something?
This discussion is so well timed for me. We just got back from looking at hybrid cars and are trying to decide on options. Unlike the last time we bought a car, both of us have home offices and our son takes the bus to school. In other words, we don’t drive everyday like we used to, and when we do it tends to be running weekly errands or going out of town — long distance. We’re still doing the math on efficiencies vs cost. We may just hold on to the old car for another year or so.
From what I’ve read, it’s a genetic thing.
But, that being said, it’s not preclusive to the environment.
Sure are a lot of NON Political/Election threads lately.
Did anyone tell all y’all that moveon.org came out for Obama?
San Jose Mercury, too!
Fresno Bee!
And Al Gore and John Edwards ‘hat tip’ are still awaiting?
Wonder if and when and for WHO they will hat tip to?
What’s a progressive brownie recipe look like, I wonder.
Bet Martha Stewart wouldn’t air it.
*GSWEETLY*
I just read that NYT article..Rut..Roh
Oh… he’ll be running around the ethernet looking for answers. You have to know the kiddo to understand.
Lahoma
A few ideas (Yeah, I know another list by me. Who would have guessed?)
Mass transit, not just urban but cross country
Renewable non-carbon energy, solar, wind, tidal
Built in recyclability
Conservation, conservation, conservation
Fusion research
Real urban and community planning (restrictions and penalties on high energy and uncontrolled development)
Population stabilization and control
Reforestation and maintenance of critical wetlands areas