(Please welcome Blue America candidate Rick Noriega, who is running against John Cornyn for his US Senate seat in Texas, in the comments. You can donate to his campaign here — jh)
Last night we completed a three-day barnstorming tour of 16 Rio Grande Valley and South Texas communities. We started Monday morning in Corpus Christi , and over the next 72 hours, drove more than 700 miles across 22 counties.
It is an area I am familiar with – in 2006, I commanded the Laredo border sector, leading 300 National Guardsmen as we assisted in the seizure of thousands of pounds of drugs, working jointly with federal, state, and local law enforcement officials to secure our border. Having also served in Afghanistan, I have direct experience with border security and with the threat posed by terrorism. After this visit, I am increasingly convinced that building a wall along the South Texas border – as the administration is doing with the backing of my Republican opponent, Senator Cornyn – is the wrong solution that will not make us safer.
This is not the answer to fixing our broken immigration system. It appears to be a cynical ploy to create the illusion of action, while preserving the status quo that the Republican leadership, including Mr. Cornyn, sees as in their political interest.
The leadership in Washington, D/C. has lost their way. For years they have let problems fester, doing nothing. As the pressure to act mounts, they rush to impose inappropriate solutions that cause more harm than good.
Building a wall will accomplish some things–for one, it rides roughshod over the property rights of those whose land is being taken by the federal government without due process. It insults the local jurisdictions that have been on the front lines of dealing with our serious border issues.
Make no mistake – we need to take action now to control our borders and stem the flow of illegal immigration. If I thought a wall would accomplish that, I would support it. But it won’t, and I don’t.
As I met some many of the folks of South Texas, I spoke to local elected officials, campaign supporters and the great citizens of small towns like Del Rio and Falfurrias and of larger cities like McAllen and Brownsville. Over and over I heard powerful opposition to the divisive policies of the Bush-Cornyn agenda.
People in South Texas understand that we need a change of direction and new leadership in Washington. If we are going to resolve the skyrocketing cost of health care, or getting our slipping economy back on the right track, or making college tuition more affordable for working families, we must have a change.
Along the border, nothing generates as much passion – and opposition – as the misguided and destructive plan to build a wall along the border. For years now, the Bush and administration and its Republican Party lieutenants like John Cornyn have routinely used fear and intolerance to try to divide people for political gain. Nothing symbolizes these reprehensible tactics more than the proposed wall.
The wall is bad policy. It is political gamesmanship pretending to be a solution. Walling ourselves off is not who we are as Texans – or as Americans.
People with expertise in these issues – especially those who have lived and worked along the border their whole lives – know how bad the wall is. On my tour, I stopped in Eagle Pass , Texas, where the federal government is trying to appropriate an important slice of city land to build their wall. Eagle Pass Mayor Chad Foster, a true Texas patriot, leads a group of border mayors opposing this misguided policy. He is being targeted by the feds for his efforts.
Mayor Foster took me down to where the wall is supposed to be built and showed me how it would cut off an existing municipal park (among other lands) from the rest of the city. It was clear that the wall will be a disaster for Eagle Pass. I told the mayor that I was proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with him and the other mayors who are resisting this federal government land grab.
I also stopped in Granjeno, Texas, where local activists took me out to show me where local residents are going to lose their land because of the wall. They briefed me on the devastating ecological impact of the wall.
I told them I was proud to stand with them, and that when I join the U.S. Senate, I will fight for the funds to fix the critically important local levee system, not to waste billions on a wall that won’t work.
Everything I saw confirmed what I knew – this federal effort to impose a wall on South Texas needs to be stopped. If not, it will literally split border communities in two. It will destroy the local economy and seriously damage sensitive habitat areas along the Rio Grande. It will make a mockery of private property rights, something that people all across this great state feel strongly about. And when it comes to solving our serious immigration and homeland security problems, it just plain won’t work.
We need to do more to enhance border security, but there are smarter ways to do that. We should use technology to create a virtual wall along the border. We can add more border patrol personnel. And we need to encourage economic and recreational activity right along the border, because the more legal activity that is going on, the less illegal activity there will be.
Even John Cornyn knows the wall – I call it the Cornyn Curtain – is a bad idea. He has admitted it is a 18th century solution for a 21st century problem, but then he voted for it anyway, more than once. That is not leadership, it is cynicism. That is not standing up for the working families of Texas. That is playing at the same old politics of division and fear.
We need to look forward for our solutions, not backwards. We need to come together as a people, not tear our communities apart. This will happen when we have new leadership in Washington. I pledged to the people of South Texas, and I pledge to you across the country, that when I am in the U.S. Senate, I will fight–I will fight to do what is right, not what is expedient.
Until then, I’ll use a phrase I’m sure the current senator is familiar with: Mr. Cornyn, tear down this wall!



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It’s good to have you here, Rick.
Hi Rick, good to have you here. I hear you’re feeling a bit under the weather, we appreciate your letting us know what’s happening with the wall.
Welcome future Sen Noriega!
Thanks! Great, clear, position on a real sore point, a product of the lack of DC leadership, you decry, Rick.
Welcome, and thanks.
Is the topic of this thread limited to immigration policy?
Welcome Mr. Noriega.
I have a good friend who grew up in Del Rio, with great stories of cross border activity, as it was open back then. She also tells me that Like Water for Chocolate was situated right in that area.
She now lives in Houston (I am in NYC), and is politically active with a group called Roadwomen. I believe they are supporting you.
Welcome, Rick. I cannot imagine that the eminent domain approach taken by the Bush Administration in drawing up this wall sits well with folks in Texas. I know it wouldn’t here where I live in WV — we have the same sort of independent/stubborn streak along with a very strong sense of protecting our property.
Beyond that, its just flat out insulting to so many of the folks who have helped to build Texas communities along the border to then tell them they don’t know how to take care of them.
Best of luck in defeating Sen. Cornyn. Next time y’all debate, ask him how his pals Ralph Reed and Jack Abramoff are doing these days — and whether he’s spoken to any FBI agents lately. (Kidding, sort of, but I do wonder whether those e-mails from Reed about Cornyn’s complicity in Abramoff schemes while Cornyn was AG will ever result in any real investigation.)
What do you suggest we do rather than have a wall?
eminent domain
I have thought about the sybolism of walls–Berlin Wall, Wall on U.S. southern border, Israel wall, gated communities. They all symbolize failure–the failure to develop a better society and economy, to enforce laws, etc.
Are you aware of any EPA studies on the environmental impact of a wall across some of these areas?
Or was/is it all rubber stamped by BushCo non-entities?
Dangit, I knew that. Thanks…
Hello everyone! I wanted to say hello and thank you in advance for having us here today. Rick’s reading through your comments and will be here to reply to questions you have. He’s just gotten finished with his 3 day barnstorming tour of 22 counties (700 miles!) in South Texas long the Rio Grande Valley. He’s a little under the weather because of all that traveling, but that’s not stopping him from being here today at FDL.
Disclaimer: I work for Rick Noriega’s team here in Austin as the online coordinator. -Karl-Thomas
How are you going to round up all the terrorists without a wall?
Just put a wall around the White House. That ought to do it.
I have to note that the wall very much reminds me of the walls that have been erected in some parts of the Middle East. And those walls have proven to solve nothing. They have only served to make a very bad situation even worse.
In terms of Mexico, the United States needs to give the folks of Mexico, a Fair Deal. The U.S. government has not been acting in good faith toward our southern neighbors for many, many decades. It’s time for change.
Just until January 20, 2008, right?
Is the building contractor for the wall chosen yet,is it a loyal bushie? I bet they go over budget at government expense! Funny my old boss a painter always ate the cost when he bid to low on a job but government jobs never expect contractors to do that why?
Hello, Rick, and welcome back to FDL. I was pleased to meet you at YKos in Chicago and have been following your campaign’s progress through your frequent e-newsletters. My question about the border and the upcoming election is this: Do you see a potential downside for John Cornyn should John McCain be the GOP presidential nominee? Won’t it be easy to exploit their clear differences on immigration and the border wall in your campaign against Cornyn, and how do you plan to make that work to your advantage?
Thanks to you and your family for the sacrifices you’re making for this campaign, and best of luck this November!
If you get rid of all the immigrants, who’d mow our lawns?
Or the arrests, whichever comes sooner. *g*
After Mukasey yesterday, I see no will by the Democrats to make any changes. They complain and pretend to be outraged but inwardly, they love what the Republicans are doing. There may be a couple of good souls in our Congress but the rest of them are malevolent.
Rarely can a human in the position of power not abuse that power. Humans just aren’t evolved enough. Our founders understood human nature and tried to protect us from falling into hatefulness ruling over laws that protect. Every day I thank them for rising above their own inner nature.
I will continue the good fight. I must. But I feel like I am fighting on quicksand. People love the wall. It has a malevolence to it that appeals to their worst nature. They don’t care if it works or not. They love the cruelty of the wall.
I know you were being snarky there, but let’s try and keep that to a minimum in a guest thread, shall we?
Our immigration policy is broken. After having commanded troops in the Laredo sector it is clear that our law enforcement personnel need help. Washington has failed TX in terms of border security and immigration reform. The reform package that was on the table would have provided I believe almost half a billion for border security; extra law enforcement and vertual approaches. This is what I support.
What are the direct costs of what you prefer, vs. the cost of the wall, forgetting for the moment environmental, societal & economc disrputions of the latter? And do you have any evidence on which would be more efficacious?
What I know is that Cornyn has been the presidents yes man until it came to hammering out a compromise on immigration reform. Cornyn chose to side we the extreme idealogues at the expense of Texan’s security and a fair and reasonable approach.
I can’t control what happens at the top but a Texas senator cannot be a go along person; ala Cornyn. Of course I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is and will support them in policy when right and will respectfully disagree when their policy does not serve the interest of Texas families.
Rick,
What’s your #1 issue once you’re senator?
Can you go into more detail, perhaps give some examples of what you mean?
The direct costs are substantially less than the $49 billion that is proposed over 10 for construction and maintenance for something that will not work.
The leadership you show on this issue is really impressive, Rick, especially when the “wise elders” of the party have fallen down so badly.
Bring my brothers and sisters in arms home from Iraq.
Yeah! the EU when they consider a country for membership try to get the new countries laws, environmental rules, BUDGET etc all in order before they grant EU membership. We did nothing of the kind with Mexico and Nafta.
Nafta destroyed the Mexican family farm, raised the price of tortillas and made coming to America for work a matter of survival.
This in a country with huge but fading oil wealth and the worlds richest man Carlos Slim http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/…..ytica.html
I think Mexico could pay its workers more and invest in their own infrastructure. Look at what the Germans did for their East German cousins it took about ten years and a lot of cash but East Germany is now doing quite good.
I think we should copy the EU model on trade deals and expand Nafta the same way the EU expands membership.
You’ve got a few of my bucks.
I chipped in too. Best of luck.
Thanks for addressing my question. Here’s another: What support is your campaign getting from Washington — the DSCC, specifically — and is that support or lack of it related to your discussions of the border wall? We know some DeeCee party bigwigs who propose candidates take an entirely different line than your smart and compassionate one. Are you getting any help from our party leaders?
In Granjino,TX, I witnessed where the wall is to be built. It would cede an enormous amount of property to Mexico. It would destroy the natural ecosystem for birding and kill off other endangered species. 75% of all migratory birds in North America fly through South Texas. This pattern would be altered. Tourism to South TX for birding and other activities total around $122 mil annually in receipts ($12 mil birding).
Yes we are getting help from Sen’s Schumer, Reid, Reed, Durbin, Webb to name a few. Labor should be kicking in soon too. We will be in DC soon to FR.
Despite others position on the wall, they’re not running in TX. and Texans don’t want it.
Also, there are a host of other recreational legal activities that would increase security along this area.
Granjeno, sorry.
You are right. The wall won’t work, and anyone that has been on the border knows that most of it is wilderness.
The problem with the border is not terrorism — it is the rampant out-of-control violent drug cartels. Bush has been in office since 2001 and hasn’t done anything about that, and the Republicans in Congress haven’t done anything about it either because they flat out don’t care.
The Repubs crowing their bugga bugga about terrorists crossing the borders is nothing more than a red herring mostly created by Karl Rove as an election issue…meanwhile, they won’t let you bring 2 ounces of fluid on an airplane. Their cronies take advantage and make money on the slave labor. Who ultimately profits?
Sir, are you trying to attract Republicans by using Reagan’s words (tear down this wall) against Cornyn?
Any plans on he we can work together to cut Crime in the border towns before it hits America?
It is already in the American border towns.
Sure, the carizo cane which is sooo thick that you could burn a car in there and no one would see it needs to be cleared. Border Patrol has asked for years for this to be done (cheap). The field of vision increases immeasurably. In Granejo specifically, they have started a bike ride that goes from McAllen north along the top of the levee which will soon be ceded to Mexico. The proposition of paddling has also been advanced. When legal activities are implemented they would offset any illegal activity that might be occuring.
Who do you see as the agency who should take on the responsibility of enforcing immigration laws, a border patrol (basic), companies that encourage workers to cross the border and pay them so little? Our immigration policies are a hodgepodge run by a hodgepodge of sub-agencies. None of it makes sense. The best way I can describe our current immigration policy is run-amock.
How do you propose handling the so called “border wars” drug cartels? Please give me some insight. I don’t know fact from fiction.
I agree the taking of property is destructive and an injustice for homeowners. I had to fight CalTrans to save a beautiful landmark building that they wanted to demolish in order to expand their freeway. It was an ugly costly fight that went on for many years.
No not attracting Repubs, just a little flip.
A couple years ago, Mr. LS (a musician) was supposed to go with the band he was in to play in the interior in Mexico for a couple of days. They were supposed to go to the border and be picked up at the border by a van and a driver sent by the club owner….10 minutes before they were supposed to leave, they found out they were going to possibly kidnapped by an ambush of the van and the driver by a drug cartel group who had a gripe with the club owner!! I wouldn’t set foot over there, I’m tellin’ you…that was some scary stuff!! I don’t remember the club or the town, so don’t ask me…:)
I like what you have been saying, I completely agree with you on the wall, it is a dividing issue, not a solution. I am with you. Where can I send a check?
The drug wars on the other side are very serious as I’ve witnessed as commander in the Laredo sector. We have to make sure our law enforcement have all that they need to ensure that these power struggles on the other side do not slip into the states. Again it is unfortunate for us in Texas that the feds have shirked their responsibility and the burden for security falls on the state and local law enforcement at times. However I’m becoming more of a cynic on immigration reform and border security. It appears that the Repubs want cheap labor to surpress wages and then want a divisive emotional issue to use for politcal gain.
Hey Rick! Good to see you at FDL again– and good to see all the progress you’re making towards helping get rid of the Republican mess in Washington. I missed the first part of this because Luis Gutierrez just withdrew his endorsement of Rep Lipinski in Chicago because Lipinski had been scape-goating immigrants the same way Cornyn does. Of course Cornyn is a Republican, so we can expect that kind of behavior from him. Lipinski is supposed to be a Democrat– although you might not guess that from his voting record. And speaking of voting records, Cornyn’s is tied (with KKK supporter Johnny Isakson) for the absolute worst in the U.S. Senate. I bet there are a lot of Texan’s who can’t be too proud of that achievement.
Exactly!!! Right on!!
Rick,
Just gave a measly $25 + 10% tip.
Best of luck.
You mention your experience in Afghanistan. What did you take away from that experience that would influence you as a Senator?
Rick
Can you comment on this?
In today’s Austin-American Statesman, an article appears that discusses how Rick Noriega returned the money donated to him by Bob Perry…but that he wouldn’t mind more support from Perry. From the Statesman:
“I’d hope to have Mr. Perry’s help during the general election,” Noriega said.
It is known what large companies hire illegals. It the feds wanted to do something about it, they would know where to raid. And they wouldn’t have to do much of that, since it would send a signal to other large companies. Of course the Rs want cheap labor.
As it is, on the rare occasions when there is a raid (Swift & Co?), I suspect it is because they haven’t made large enough R party “contributions.”
I’m much more cynical than you are.
I’m broke..:(….but you’ve got my vote!!
Welcome Howie- glad you’re here. And, I just got here too. I was over at DWT reading your posts from today. Thanks for all of the great work you do on behalf of BA candidates, including Rick. Kudos, Howie. I hope you are smiling. I love it when you smile. ;)
How is the race going now against Sen Cornyn is Bush’s lack of popularity affecting Texas races? Are any of the Bush or various Abramhoff scandals affecting votes or is the War in Iraq, the Economy and Healthcare still the big 3?
Besides immigration, especially the wall, what are other important Cornyn weaknesses that you are exploiting?
Are Texans big fans of the telecoms? Because it sure sounds like their Senator is. Can you make telecom immunity an issue this fall, Rick?
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Aloha, Rick! My HI-ARNG unit was tasked to build a segment of the wall in CA near Tecate, and I personally saw it as ineffectual and a serious eyesore! I concur with you on many of your assessments and wonder what could truly stop the drug wars and trafficking that occurs daily along the entire southern border. What is your take on the Mexican truckers having access to our highways and byways?
Thank you so much, Rick. Being a cynic sharpens you. It is an indifferent cynic that causes harm, like too many in Congress. You will make a fine cynic. There are several at FDL. I also call them stark realists.
How can law enforcement ever be responsible for something as difficult as border wars? They serve a different purpose and to expect them to become military operators defeats the purpose of law enforcement. What do you suggest? Could the National Guard do something like this? Not many left, I know.
Sure, I talked to Kerry and explained that over the last few years that my state account had received donations from Bob Perry and what did he think? He was the injured party and I went straight to him. This happened in a meeting I had with him in DC back in Oct. He said he was a big boy and didn’t care but if was going to hurt me in the primary maybe we could work together and give the money to some veterans org. So I did.
My comment about BP is that I want everyone’s support to defeat John Cornyn.
Thanks for the straight answer.
That the Swift Vote Guy?
One of the things I learned is that we’ve got the greatest fighting men and women in the world and they shouldn’t be misused.
I’m in for another dollop of dollars.
Yes, and since I am both a Vietnam and VVAW Vet I take the Swift Boat bullshit personally. I appreciate Rick’s straight answer.
Also John Kerry has endorsed our campaign.
Good enough for me.
Yes, also a big money player in Texas politics for years. He pops up here and there in John Anderson’s “Follow the Money,” that we did for Book Salon a while back.
Yes he lives in Houston and is a regular donar to d’s and r’s but mainly R’s.
One of the things I learned is that we’ve got the greatest fighting men and women in the world and they shouldn’t be misused.
Again
Best of luck Mr. Noriega. I like your positions on border security and the priorty of getting our troops back home. Do you have any views on how the Senate can begin to regain its Constitutionally mandated oversight role?
How much in danger is Cornyn of atually losing that seat? DO you have a good shot at winning?
Just make sure you have your helmet handy in case you need to sit on it!! He plays nasty.
Interesting that Cornyn was silent on this loophole in the NAFTA law when we started letting some of these trucks in. Texans don’t like it. They believe that these truckers are unsafe.
Do you think they are being misused in Afghanistan?
They are…just try driving on I-35 with them…holy smokes.
Cornyn Fares Poorly in Statewide Poll 12/06/2007
I believe that with a Democratic Senate that the pendulum will swing back toward more balance. We know that the neo-cons used 9-11 to conduct a power grab for the executive branch and if you spoke out you were unpatriotic and for the terrorists.
And again and again… At least Nam Vets only had to serve one tour of duty, our brethren today have no such luxury… Many have served two or three tours already, if not more…
Yes, you may want to check out this poll.
Re-elects are in the low 40’s and most of the undecideds are for change. We need the resources to tell our story and to show how Mr. Cornyn represents special interest and not TX’s interests.
We never took out the enemy that slammed the planes into the towers. We haven’t completed the mission.
Some of us got to go to Korea and the Nam too, if we were real lucky. (:
Sander, I know you want an answer from Rick and I hope he gets to your question. But I want to address it to. Last year almost NONE of the Blue America-endorsed candidates were considered likely to win. We targeted red districts and red states. We didn’t endorse in blue big city districts; we sought to expand the playing field where the DCCC and the Insiders don’t like to go. We helped elect 13 new members of Congress who were all longshots. One of them, Senator Jon Tester, has been in Texas and Montana campaigning for Rick and for Andrew Rice, two states the Insiders would rather just write off. We’re not writing off anyplace where we see a candidate who is willing to fight a smart fight for the principles and values we believe in.
Late to the party here! Buenos Suerte Rick in your race. We need some Blue from Texas in the Senate. You should see if the Dixie Chicks want to support your campaign since aren’t ready to make nice yet.
Lil 50 megaton airburst on, say, Saudi Arabia?
hiya Howie! We proved Howard Dean’s rule that you get votes from folks whose votes you ask for.
So are you going deploy the military to Saudi Arabia or what?
Dru — are you pushing the edges on this for any particular reason? Because Rick is running for the Senate, not the Presidency, and it wouldn’t be his decision to deploy forces anywhere in that capacity.
And the new vets have shitty benefits care of the rethuglians… support the soldiers… sure but not with any benefits when their service is done or if they become disabled… right now all they get is two.. thats right two years of free medical… what a farce when these young men and women give up their bodies for their country,. Every one of these rethuglians should be striped of their benefits until our vets are taken care of for life with proper medical, school, job training and access to low cost loans so they can buy their own homes.
I have seen the signs posted at the VA for their medical eligiability.. they have been betrayed.
Bravo!! But…we can’t bomb Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Egypt…
We need an independent investigation of the Neocons role in 9/11 and we need to let Sibel Edmonds speak!!!
Thanks. I hope we get to your courage in the Senate.
Because Afghanistan is my “#1 issue” Christy and because I was considering donating some $ -depending on his responses; as I have often when asked on FDL. I thought his answers to my 1st 2 questions were weak for a guy who wants to be a Senator. And what is up with you- Have you bought into the President as the decider? BTW comment # 91 was very similar (although rougher) than my #94. Sorry if I touched a nerve.
Thanks for your time today, Rick, and best of luck in your campaign.
9-11 report liste Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as the 3 countries that were hotbeds for abating Islamic extremists Al Queda. And Mr. Cornyn and co. invade Iraq…go figure.
Here was an article in the Arizona Republic on effect of employer sanction effect on apartment rentals. Many folks heading to Texas.Apartments going empty as hiring law hits migrants
Hey, don’t go droppin the dime on me, I can get in my own jams.
I didn’t think there was anything wrong with either comment bro’.
Roger again.
Mine was bad!
Just wondered — it was a very specific question, and he wouldn’t be able to deploy anyone. He could vote to allow that, and I think that may be what you are asking, though. Was trying to elicit some clarification on that point.
I thought you were trying to clarify; didn’t take it as advice.
Nah, I was foolin around.
FWIW, I don’t think the war in Afghanistan is just, any more than the one in Iraq.
This article is pretty good imo-
http://www.electricpolitics.co…..error.html
The command and control for al Qaeda is still in the mountains of Pakistan. They have gotten stronger after 9-11 because of our policy. We didn’t kill the snake when we had the hoe in the hand. Al Qaeda is now trying to destabilize Pakistan. We’ve got to support a democratic Pakistan without appearing as meddling which strenghtens Al Qaeda. Afghanistan is nearing the point that they might be able to sustain a government without a meltdown. Remember, Afghanistan’s enemy is not its neighbors but from within. Nobody wants to stay in Afghan. ask alexander the Great, Genghis Khan,Brits, Russians, and now us.
The news said this clown we killed today was in Western Pakistan.
Clear cause and effect. The folks responsible for organizing and flying the planes into the towers were in Afghanistan and sanctioned by the Taliban the official government of Afghanistan at the time.
The command and control of Al Qaeda was never dealt with. They are now stronger because we took our eye off the ball. They still have to be dealt with but with an international approach because they are a threat to everyone.
Rick, would you support an investigation into the Bush Administration’s lawbreaking after they leave office? And do you think we need an investigation into war profiteering in Iraq?
yep!
If you have a contact let me know and we’ll go to work on it.
Thanks again, Rick, for stopping by today. I hope you get out from under the weather soon.
Folks seem to have moved on to the next thread to discuss the Obama/Clinton debate. But I wanted to thank you for taking time to chat today.
I think you did good here today Rick real good:)
Back to the campaign trail. Thank you to all our friends at FireDog. Thanks for the donations. Cornyn will obviously have more money but we’ll have the people. We just need enough to compete and we’ll win. Tell your friends to please visit our website at ricknoriega.com.