Reid and McConnell disagree on whether an extension of the PAA or a petulant demand to give the President and Dick Cheney everything they ask for is best. (Two guesses on which side McConnell stands.)
Then there was much wailing and gnashing of GOP teeth about the un-bi-partisan nature of forcing them to debate actual issues and legal ramifications for the long-term associated with the bill. Sen. Byron Dorgan called bullshit quite nicely on a smarmy attempt by Kit Bond to weasel around the rules.
Bernie Sanders called bullshit on the Bush SOTU.
And then a lot of folks talked about the economy, finishing with Judd Gregg trying to bore everyone to death about iPods and overseas manufacturing and why people don’t need food stamps.
The GOP strategy this morning appeared to be a cross between trying to whine us to death and putting everyone in a coma. The Democrats seemed to be fed up with the lot of them and just want to get things done — and are willing to finally stand up and tell the GOP to put up or shut up, at least in floor speeches this morning. We’ll see if it holds.
Tim Tigaris has some theories on how the negotiations on this may shake out. Glenn has further thoughts on the meaning of leadership versus not so much.
Recess until 2:15 pm ET. Good God, I need more coffee…
(Above YouTube is a bit of a palate cleanser for everyone. Mozart’s String Quartet in G, K 156, W.A. Mozart, Presto.)



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yo, thanks
Nice choice of music Christy!!
Great wrap up as usual.
Now on to the next act.
Christy, YGM re the mugs. I do think it would be a fun thing to do and we may be able to do it through a store local to the DC area.
Thanks Christy
There will be no need for foodstamps once the Republics pass their bill calling for all dumpsters to remain unlocked and readily available.
There also will be no need for foodstamps once the Bush Institute completes its brush-to-food research. The Bush Brush Ranch stands ready to feed thousands.
Don’t need food stamps? tell that to my buddy with aids, or all the people on unemployment that have to pay rent with nothing left over for anything.
And the truth is that welfare for those in need pales in comparison to the welfare received by those who need nothing. I defy anyone who does the math to dispute this (not referring to all of you).
Maybe it is the huge number of Democrats showing up in unprecedented numbers at the polls lately that has given these wascally wabbits some spine for a change.
Judd Gregg can kiss my hairy white ass.
Man, that was harsh, put me right off my feed lol,
C’mon, right after lunch!?!
A little senate chamber music today? :)
DEFUND the Iraq war. RE-FUND human needs at home and in Iraq.
Leader Reid, Pull any and all bills on this matter and just say NO! Look into any and every camera and say Rule of Law prevails and the Stimulus Package is what’s next. End of story.
After the blather of the morning, I needed something to clear out the cobwebs…
You wouldn’t be referring to the “welfare” the oil companies get now would you??? :>(
That would demonstrate that he’s a leader, so I guess it’ll never happen.
I’ve got to work on my reading / visualization skills. It’s burning my eyes out – not to mention my brain. GEEEZZZ
Yes and here is something our dear leader would like to make thye national anthem….:>(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IaFaJrmno
A little senate chamber music today? :)
Dick Cheney in the cloak room with a gavel.
pleasant choice.
Thanks for all the hard work today!
Same for all you fire-in-the-belly-dogs!
Was just joking with Jane that this morning was like Profiles in Ambien. *g*
So far, the bottom line is that Harry Reid’s actions have been okay. I just don’t understand why the Democrats elected him as leader. A class of second graders would leave him trampled and crying on the floor.
And a Trunk Monkey.
I just love this: “Sen. Byron Dorgan called bullshit quite nicely on a smarmy attempt by Kit Bond to weasel around the rules.“
According to Christy’s summary, both Dorgan and Reid did this — poked the GOP whiners in the eyeball with the “regular order.” We have been asking for exactly that for months, and in a way it’s a little bittersweet that the Dems are finally exercising their majority powers. Reid was honoring GOP holds and ignoring Dem holds (like Dodd’s), honoring GOP blue slips but ignoring Dem blue slips (on nominees), and imposing the 60-vote requirement only on Dems. It made me just
fucking insaneoutraged.Now we are celebrating the fact that Reid has come to his senses, but I think we do not fully understand why he has done so. And if we don’t understand, we cannot ensure that he won’t backslide on this the next time we are not paying attention. That’s why this is a bittersweet moment.
Thanks so much for the updates — I can’t follow this today, so I’m relying on FDL.
That would be one, and tax breaks, and on, and on.
OT-Michael Clayton, good movie.
Caution! Beware of C-SPAN2, they are re-running Shrub’s STFU. Don’t go there!
OT-Michael Clayton, good movie.
“Do I look like I’m negotiating?”
That was great was it not?
I forget not everyone knows what a Trunk Monkey is.
Shoot, I ALWAYS need more coffee.
True. It’s hard to suss out Harry Reid. Sometimes he brings it, but most of the time he wimps out. Remember when he and Dick Durbin tag-teamed Bill Frist when he was calling the Dems ‘obstructionists’ who ‘let politics get in the way of sound policy and purpose’ – in other words, had the temerity to decline to rubber-stamp every disastrous policy that the Republicans are trying to force down their throat? I wish he would be that Harry Reid more often.
LOL — As I recall, it’s straight up black, no cream, no sugar?
Fractal @ 29
You’re right of course. Is there something going on that we don’t know about? Or how are we going to prod him into senses again if he backslides?
I agree. However, Rethugs are notable for not wanting to give to the needy; they only want to give to the greedy. It’s a shame and an outrage!
I
LIKE IT
I LIKE IT :>)
Yes you are correct. All of that cream and sugar hides the great taste of coffee. It’s like putting ketchup on your meat. Ick.
My solution raise taxes to 97% on all income over one million… If you can’t make it on one million you need to move to a third world country
I will be montering FDL because I’m working.
Thank all of you!!!
I owe you big time for the best laugh I have had in a while, I had tears running down my face. Okay off for a walk in the snowstorm.
Isn’t that pretty much what just happened today. They said after the recess was called that Harry Reid said he would find other legislation for the Senate to work on until some resolutions could be reached on the FISA bill. At least, that’s what I thought I heard.
We’re getting freezing rain today. Blick.
Nice day in NC, 60 degrees & sunny.
Pure white powder everywhere here in Bend, all bundled up and ready to walk, thanks for the good music by the way.
Pelosi: We’re working with the President!
Are you in Oregon?
I don’t drink so I bought myself a claret sorbet. Yum! I feel goooood!
Wet and mucky in Portland. A dusting of snow yesterday. I haven’t even put on my snow tires this year.
“I forget not everyone knows what a Trunk Monkey is.”
Well, for one thing, the Trunk Monkey is not a monkey, but an ape (specifically, a chimpanzee). Big difference!
Bob in HI
Does the fact that I seriously covet this mean that I’m a super-nerd? *G*
No, but you must be super rich!
yes
I wonder how many Oregonians gather here?
Yes, I live in Bend, Oregon but right now I wish I lived on the beach looking at an azure sea
Woke to minus six, wind, and dropping… it’s minus 13 now…ain’t seen the bottom yet. A metaphor for U-no!!!!!!-who?
Hot dark chocolate is also a caffeine source as I recall….
Oh yeah, like I am actually buying it. LOL You want me to give Mr. ReddHedd a heart attack on the spot? I just stumbled on the whole collection looking for another book, and started drooling over the reading potential there. I am SUCH a nerd.
Earlier above or on a previous thread, somebody speculated that Reid & his leadership team may be gaining courage from the huge Dem turnouts in the primaries. Another theory I just came up with — Reid supported Hillary in the Nevada primary, won the state for her (Reid’s son Rory Reid was her campaign director in NV, so Reid is identified with Hillary, Hillary is under threat from Obama for the same old “go along, get along Washington politics,” and from Edwards (yes, still from Edwards) who has promised to “fight to take back the power.” So maybe Reid has decided he needs to show some balls to help Hillary, indirectly. I really don’t know.
heh heh. I remember reading those things in junior high school, they helped turn me into the anti-war protester that I became at age 15 (oops, dating myself)
I’m in Pacific Beach Washington. This morning everytown around us we either delayed or closed due to snow yet this moring I woke up to 42 degrees and a damp road. This always seems to happen. Everyone else gets a day off while I wind my way through the trees to work. At least our school year will end earlier than everyone elses.
Like we didn’t already know that you were a nerd. This is not news. But of course I think that being a nerd is a good thing.
For lisadawn82, sorry I was so slow responding, my mouse hand just swole up and I had to ice it down :(
going upstairs to rant about the war . . . .
Not a nerd, but it sure explains a helluva lot :)
I’m absolutely STUNNED that Bush is trying to block the benefits of the “stimulus” from reaching those who are going to be most devastated by his policies…and who will likely do the most to stimulate the economy by spending. These are the folks who are so poor that they actually don’t submit an income tax return and the retired.
Get this, the “stimulus” is limited to people who make more than $3000 a year. The Pugs are trying to block giving $600 to these folks. Why? Because it would increase the cost of the bill!
Just how many people out there are living on less than $3000 a YEAR? How can ANYONE actually survive on THAT? Yet Bush and his imbeciles won’t even give these people foodstamps, or a bit more to find housing, or get a coffee a day?
There is something sickly insane about the leaders in this country where they expect people to live on under $250 a month!