Whoo-Hoo!

Good News!

Wow … now let’s hope we also get Obama!

Obama does have a 4pm fundraiser scheduled in Washington DC

But, isn’t the vote scheduled for 4:30…

Excellent!

So, is it possible that it has penetrated the consciousness of her campaign staff that being involved in this and supporting Senator Dodd’s efforts could be considered a good thing?

Any word on whether she will vote no on any extension?

More breaking:

Hillary comes to FL!!!!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com.....1217.story

Jane… That would be brava Senator Clinton.. Bravo for males and many.. Brava for the females.

Now what do we need? 1/3 of those voting? McCain will probably be campaigning.

Paging the Junior Senator from Illinois.

The Junior Senator from Illinois, to the white courtesy phone . . .

Hmmmm wonder what made Hillary do dat?

Sorry to be OT but I ran into Al Franken last night in front of the Mn. convention center (boat show). Almost no one around. It was fun to chat for a minute. He asked if I would show up to caucus for him (5th?). Alas, I’m from North Dakota, so I will ask FDLers from Minnesota to please caucus for
Al-len(LOL). Here is his funny ad-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bLcv7bs84

GOOD.

HRC deserves a Kudo or a Snickers or something.

This is important, dammit. Candidate, schmandidate. She’s my Senator, and this is her job.

I’ve emailed them, and they have been in communication, they just said they didn’t know what his schedule was going to be yet. So I sent another, hopefully we’ll know something soon.

Great news! Just got finishing emailing all the senators on Christy’s list re FISA (can’t make my Mac send out faxes for some reason). Let’s hope BO votes no as well.

I wonder if Obama realizes that he needs the party’s base as much as Hillary does. I’m definitely wondering about his priorities and whether he stands for anything. Now’s the time for him to prove whether he’s all hot air (the man can’t say anything in 25 words or less!) or if there’s some substance behind all that talk.

If we got her, we got him.

The magic number is 60 for cloture….59 to 41 is the same as 59 to 10. It’s the ~12 Bush Dogs + DiFi + Jay that control the outcome.

Yep I’m glad, I was going to have to reach for a new level of invective if they didn’t show up. (Call me crazy but now that Clinton is going I don’t see how Obama doesn’t.)

If you run into him again, ask him to drop by the Lake and chat for a bit.

Nothing special, mind you — all he needs to do is just come and toss in his two cents worth, like the rest of us.

maybe gettin’ her ass handed to her Saturday night?

If Obama doesn’t show up to vote, he’s handing Hillary and Edwards an easy campaign issue…

Didn’t Jello-Jay way he was planning to vote “No” to cloture?

I wish I had thought to do that. Bet he would have done it.

Is Edwards going to be is DC for the vote?

You’re right. Wonder why i was thinking 2/3 for cloture. Duh. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard that (and said it). Duh, again. So it doesn’t matter what we get, they have to get 60.

In other words, she got a “pass” to vote no, since her vote won’t make any difference anyway, but it sure makes her look good.

Call me crazy, too.

Per Matt Stoller’s analysis, pissing off the progressive wing of the Democratic party cost Obama the Nevada primary. If he’s a no-show wrt the FISA vote on Monday, I’ll do whatever little bit I can to sink him on Super Tuesday.

A little gentle *cough* pressure from FDL does it again, I see. :)

Di-Fi’s amendment got tossed without a vote too - think she’ll be pissed enough to vote “No”?

I don’t trust him..Jello and the Bush Dogs have had all weekend to work on a “face saving” plan..so they can vote for cloture.

True. Not gonna happen. Especially if he’s in town. Wonder if McCain will be. I read that he has no more money to spend in Florida so he’s outta here. He has to be here on election night, no?

Fantastic! I was able to contact all but four of the senators and candidates on Christy’s list this morning. It was great having the list on a Sunday since I cannot call while at work!

I spoke with human beings at both the Hillary and Barack campaigns, and asked that they spread the word about returning for the cloture vote to the
candidates. There must have been many, many of us!

Hey, glad to see you supporting the neglected art of the sound bite. Wouldn’t want political discourse to exceed a phrase length of about 10 to 12 words now, would we?

You’re crazy.

(We aim to please at FDL.)

A “no show” has the same result.

I don’t trust him..Jello and the Bush Dogs have had all weekend to work on a “face saving” plan..so they can vote for cloture.

I just emailed him also, for good measure. Can’t hurt.

Good news, Jane.

Does anyone know tomorrow’s schedule in the Senate?

You’re crazy.

Isn’t it a prerequisite…? *g*

From the Senate website:

Monday, Jan 28, 2008

2:00 p.m.: Convene and begin a period of morning business

3:00 p.m.: Resume consideration of S.2248, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance bill.

8:30 p.m.: Proceed to the House of Representatives for the president’s State of the Union address.

I think Bayh will cave to enough pressure - plus he’s gonna want to follow Hillary’s lead…

How the fuck does Mary Landrieu look herself in the mirror every morning? George Bush fucked her state in a way that is unprecedented in the history of this country, and I good and goddamned guarantee she’ll vote with him again tomorrow…

Anybody know if HRC will speak or issue a statement against cloture? Would be very useful, she gets a lot of press.

Thanks, Peterr. I assume the vote on cloture is still set for 4:30 p.m.

I won’t call you crazy, but I will say congratulations and great job. It would not have happened without you.

Isn’t it a prerequisite…? *g*

Well, it certainly doesn’t hurt…

Cloture votes need 60 “yes” votes. Not voting is the same as a “no” vote. Obama doesn’t have to be there.

kiddo is sleeping on the bed. As usual he fell asleep during the movie we were watching. And I want to say good for you Senator Clinton. On your vote tomorrow. You are finally doing something that is expected of you as a Democrat.

Lahoma

I’m surprised with Inouye’s vote, our delegation is ranked among the top five for toeing the Dem line… And, Akaka voted properly… I find it amusing that he’s the first name they call to establish a quorum…!

I think the “panic” by Bush to get Tel-co immunity is not for the Tel-co’s but for immunity for Cheney, Bush and all of the other Thugs that broke the law. Same reason they are going to slip thru a bill legalizing nuc tech transfer to Turkey. Immunity for treason.

Good job, HRC.

Come on Barack, time to be a Democrat, not a dick like Lieberman.

4:30 PM when last we heard. Given the pushing and shoving going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if the time slips a bit — but not so long as to screw up getting over to the House in time to get some good seats.

Of course, I wouldn’t mind being wrong. If Dodd & Co. stuck it to Bush and kept talking and talking and talking, I could live with that.

C-SPAN does split screens all the time . . .

Hmmm. Strange timing on the piece?

Bush Looks to Beef Up Protection Against Cyberattacks

WASHINGTON — President Bush has promised a frugal budget proposal next month, but one big-ticket item is stirring controversy: an estimated $6 billion to build a secretive system protecting U.S. communication networks from attacks by terrorists, spies and hackers.

Administration officials and lawmakers say that the prospect of cyberterrorists hacking into a nuclear-power plant or paralyzing Wall Street is becoming possible, and that the U.S. isn’t prepared. This is “one area where we have significant work to do,” Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in a recent interview.

The White House’s proposal has already dismayed lawmakers concerned about civil-liberties violations.

Leaders lead. This is a very good start.

Yeah but….. Can’t she beat him about the cranium with it if the guy shows up for a fundraiser but blows off a vote on a critical matter? Even if his vote isn’t needed?

Obama really should consider moving his fundraiser to 5:00 P.M., or it’s gonna cost him a lot more money down the road than he’s gonna collect there…

I’ve emailed them, and they have been in communication, they just said they didn’t know what his schedule was going to be yet. So I sent another, hopefully we’ll know something soon.

So it’s a matter of if he can fit his day job in (he hasn’t resigned from the Senate, or anything, has he?), he may be there, unless he can find something more important to do for his own self-interest campaign.

OT -

BooRadley — nice thoughts on the Jesus Seminar at the tail end of the Book Salon.

FDL does it again! I feel down right important.

Well. She found the one thing that could actualy earn my vote. I hope Obama shows up to. Leaders have to lead, even when they loose

Need time to go out and get a good buzz on before the speech, too.

If she and Obama fail to do the right thing, they will face the wrath of my blog.

Dodd would blow away Shrub’s lame duck SOTU, at least there’ll be no ‘bold’ policy initiatives announced… Thank god for small favors… ;-)

Was that the Idi Amin movie?

Die fighting, as Uncle Sam told me… ;-)

I faxed Senator Byrd and asked him to vote NO on cloture, and to also talk to Rockefeller and find out why he sold us out on FISA. I then sent a fax to Rockefeller telling him that I, and many other of his constituents, was appalled at his position on FISA. I questioned his monetary ties to the Telecoms and then requested that he please think of the country first by voting NO on McConnell’s cloture. Don’t know what good it will do, but I did let him know that many eyes were watching his vote on Monday, and that although he probably has his re-election in the bag, there could still be some serious repercussions if he didn’t do the right thing.

I’m gonna be listening for te stuff about the global AIDS crisis which some guy on FOX said last night - actually it was te first thing on his list of things “important to Bush” that Fucktard would talk about. Global AIDS crisis? Important to Bush? I missed that one. Guess I gotta watch FOX more.

Lord knows, that wrath cannot be wrought. GO THERS!

I’ve added an update — Senator Obama will be there too.

Looks like we’re gonna have quite a liveblog party, eh?

Much appreciated.

Back in the day, fucking nuts might have been closer. But I’ve matured.

MOST EXCELLENT!!!

Right On, Jane! most excellent…

Dang, I’ve become a Coke dispenser, today…

Great news, Jane - congrats to all who persuaded both Senators to..

show up for work

and

do the right thing

I called both and my critters, dole and burr, fat chance they will vote no unless all the people start calling them.

I wonder if having the next POTUS there and voting “NO” will have any affect on a Bush Dog?

Unfortunately, They(Obama and Clinton) are following.

What about their guy? Is McCain goin’ back? They’re all gona be in town for the speech, no?

Liveblog party! Hey there was talk of liveblogging on the front page of the NYT today. Had to snicker!

Sad that they need to be persuaded.

Then they’ll be in the audience for the SOTU too, eh?

Interesting.

Looks like we’re gonna have quite a liveblog party, eh?

hmmm, gotta figure a way to get some stuff wrapped up early tomorrow afternoon.

Y’all go ahead and start without me if need be. (I *hate* to miss a live-blog) *s*

Way to go! When does the party start? (and eat your heart out, GWB!).

NYT:

Breaking News 10:47 PM ET:
Gordon B. Hinckley, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Is Dead at 97

Outtasight! Jane, you and the good ‘netters helped immensely with this, and Tim Russert can go shit in his hat if he thinks differently. :o)

I’m quite sure kiddo will have something to say about Hillary’s courage with her vote on cloture. Tomorrow. May the best be in all of your good hearts.

Goodnight.

L.

Then they’ll be in the audience for the SOTU too, eh?

Hopefully with big shit-eatin’ grins on their faces…

Goodnight, Lahoma. Obama too.

Great work Jane.. This crap needs to be put to rest so bushco and company can be impeached even after they are out of office!

I’ve added an update — Senator Obama will be there too.

Good, dammit.

Incidentally, Roy Edroso is pretty damn funny.

Saw that McCain supposedly won’t be attending SOTU because he’ll be campaigning in Florida, so guess he’ll be absent for the big FISA vote. Got an email from the Obama camp crowing about the victory in SC and asking for a donation. I’ve got no money for anyone who can’t be bothered to do the right thing on FISA. We’ll see tomorrow!

Dammit, what’s up with the linking?

I got an email this last week from John Edwards that asked me to contact my senators about FISA. I don’t recall any kind of overt donation-beggin’…

Yea, send Jenna on another mission. That’ell help

HIllary’s campaigning in FL? Guess that pledge doesn’t mean so much after the rout of SC?

McCain won’t be there????? That doesn’t seem right. It’s the ‘yes’ votes that count.

Sort of OT..but does anyone know what Barbara Mikulski’s problem is?
Using Howie Klein’s metric for rating congress persons, her score is just below Hillary and Leahy and better than Feinglod and Obama, yet she seems to vote Bush Dog on terra? I don’t get it.

Well, she’s not “campaigning” technically. Sounds like she came and gave a speech on the runway and had her picture taken with palm trees behind her.
I can’t blame her. I’m glad she showed her face. Still for Edwrads tho’.

Or as a response to the Obama campaign TV ads in Fla.

That should be pretty funny, watching Bush blast ‘em for their votes.

That’s some fine TeeVee.

Excellent! I was surprised earlier today while faxing the senators that all of them went through. It’s not unusual for the machines to run out of paper and stop answering. My computer automatically reschedules those faxes for later. It always happens when faxing many congress members.

Not today. Something tells me the staffs were in the offices over the weekend.

if your blogging it sure will be a wonderful TV venue.

Sweet fancy Moses.

As long as Typhoid George doesn’t try to kiss ‘em.

I was out of work that day and watched the FISA stuff in December and Aunt Babs surprised me. She has a rotary phone doncha know? Like, technology has improved, ya know and like, the Constitution didn’t envision, like cell phones an’ stuff so, like, it really doesn’t apply here.

The vote for cloture in December was what? 75?

We gonna lose again?

Beerfart Liberal January 27th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
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In response to kiddo @ 47
Was that the Idi Amin movie?

________________

mornin’ y’all ..

that would be “The Last King of Scotland” (if you mean the one with Forest Whitaker).

it’s a really fine novel by the way……

Kudos to Edwards for bringing this issue up on the campaign trail. Both Clinton and Obama faced the prospect of being asked by Edwards at the next debate if leadership was so important a skill, why weren’t they in D.C. demonstrating it when it mattered.

Kudos to Dodd for making this possible. If he hadn’t been ready to throw himself in front of the bill Reid was pushing, we wouldn’t be getting this opportunity now.

Kudos to everyone who has written and called their congress critters. Now we have to keep that forward momentum going. Remember to let your senators know that telecom amnesty and no judicial oversight is NOT acceptable. We can be safe AND we can have the rule of law too; they are NOT exclusive.

For dems who might know for sure that there are insufficient votes to pass cloture, there is nothing to lose by voting against cloture. Thus far, only Hillary has promised to vote against.

amen to all of that.

and a very big thanks to Jane and Christy and Marcy. these women are what patriotism is really all about.

wow. This will be the first time I’ve watched these things WITH ANYONE. I was a around for bits and pieces last Thursday, but I cleared everything for tomrrow.
OTHER PEOPLE WHO CARE. What a concept.
c’ya then!

Right. Is that te one kiddo conked out on? Didn;’t kiddo just recommend that to me earlier tonight?

Bada bing. Obama, too.

Safe votes.

Like barn geese, no wings to fly with when it’s time for the flock to head out for the season.

So they stay in the barn where it’s nice and safe.

Yeah. Dodd was the guy who was really out front and deserves a ton of credit and admiration. And some schmucks and putzes said or suggested that he did it as a “campaign stunt”. Bums.

i don’t know. i just checked in about 15 min ago. it’s not yet 05:30 here in Dresden ….

Ooops. Sorry. i think kiddo recommended it ealier tonigt to me and lahoma said a little while ago that he fell asleep. But , yeah that was the movie. You see it? Good? What’s the weather there anyway?

That’s great news!!! Great job Jane and all who wrote and called and such!! :-)

Yay!

This is great news. And they should do more. They should showcase the nastiness and the implications of the Republicans, Cheney, and Addington and their water carriers in the Senate to put this in the consicousness of Americans. No one is more of a teevee hottie right now than Clinton or Obama who can get wall to wall nanosecond to nanosecond coverage prior to Feb. 5.

The voting tomorrow is at the epicenter of all are consciousness, but it’s way off the radar of even regular NYT readers in my poll today.

Obama and Clinton should take full advantage of their media moments to expose what’s going on with the FISA bill in the Senate–and in Cheney’s office the way FDL and EW have been doing so well.

It’s not leadership when the votes are a safe vote and won’t impact the outcome.

Leadership would have been Shilary or Obuma making a big ass stink about this bill, backing Chris Dodd, and dong so months ago.

You can’t call this leadership.

Did Pelosi get to you? *G*