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		<title>By: repuglycon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1226298</link>
		<dc:creator>repuglycon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“We accept Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer. We are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could global warming be the eath’s way of fighting back against our politics?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We accept Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer. We are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac”.</p>
<p>Could global warming be the eath’s way of fighting back against our politics?</p>
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		<title>By: RockPaperScizzors</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1226227</link>
		<dc:creator>RockPaperScizzors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is it that Bush, Pelosi, and Reid are offering the no free lunch tax rebate instead of reinstituting the Glass-Steagall 1933 Act as well as other laws and regulations? Why is it that no one is being held accountable and imprisoned for this ponzi scheme? Because  all the pirates are in bed together. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Benjamin Franklin stated, &lt;em&gt;“Yes, we must indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Bush, Pelosi, and Reid are offering the no free lunch tax rebate instead of reinstituting the Glass-Steagall 1933 Act as well as other laws and regulations? Why is it that no one is being held accountable and imprisoned for this ponzi scheme? Because  all the pirates are in bed together. </p>
<p>As Benjamin Franklin stated, <em>“Yes, we must indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”</em></p>
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		<title>By: RockPaperScizzors</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1226185</link>
		<dc:creator>RockPaperScizzors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rule #1, there is no such thing as a ‘free lunch.’ The “tax rebate” is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Undoubtedly it will be reported as “earned income” on the 2009 federal and state income tax forms. We are borrowing from our future income. And subjected to payment of taxes, medicare, social security, etc.. in 2009 on the ‘tax rebate’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule #2, Never forget, the elitist and corporatist politicians  despise the ‘unwashed masses.’ They almost nullified our votes with the electronic diebold &lt;strike&gt;machinations&lt;/strike&gt; machines, almost. Yes, we got Bush for 2 terms, but the voters will not accept these in the next election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule #3, Always remember, elitist live in paranoia and fear of the &lt;strike&gt;unwashed masses&lt;/strike&gt; jacobins. They fear the demand and return of our stolen wealth, redistributed in the form of living wages, nationalized healthcare, and high interest rates on savings.  There would be a massive pull-out of Wall Street high stakes gambling. 401k’s are just another scheme to steal the savings of the hated masses.  And even worse, that the practice of government socialism for the top 10% would be reversed for the lower 90%. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule #4. Fear of mob rule. That we demand the punishment and imprisonment of the politicians, bankers (Gollum Sachs), basically all the pirates who created and implemented the &lt;strike&gt;current hedge fund, derivative, CDO’s ponzi &lt;/strike&gt; &lt;em&gt;Banks Gone Wild &lt;/em&gt;scheme. The demand of bankers, CEO’s to be held accountable as criminals for the implosion of the banks, foreclosures, and loss of retirement funds by the Wall Street pirates. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The biggest fear; socialized democracy. And eventually, the United States becoming a post-consumerist society.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule #1, there is no such thing as a ‘free lunch.’ The “tax rebate” is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Undoubtedly it will be reported as “earned income” on the 2009 federal and state income tax forms. We are borrowing from our future income. And subjected to payment of taxes, medicare, social security, etc.. in 2009 on the ‘tax rebate’.</p>
<p>Rule #2, Never forget, the elitist and corporatist politicians  despise the ‘unwashed masses.’ They almost nullified our votes with the electronic diebold <strike>machinations</strike> machines, almost. Yes, we got Bush for 2 terms, but the voters will not accept these in the next election.</p>
<p>Rule #3, Always remember, elitist live in paranoia and fear of the <strike>unwashed masses</strike> jacobins. They fear the demand and return of our stolen wealth, redistributed in the form of living wages, nationalized healthcare, and high interest rates on savings.  There would be a massive pull-out of Wall Street high stakes gambling. 401k’s are just another scheme to steal the savings of the hated masses.  And even worse, that the practice of government socialism for the top 10% would be reversed for the lower 90%. </p>
<p>Rule #4. Fear of mob rule. That we demand the punishment and imprisonment of the politicians, bankers (Gollum Sachs), basically all the pirates who created and implemented the <strike>current hedge fund, derivative, CDO’s ponzi </strike> <em>Banks Gone Wild </em>scheme. The demand of bankers, CEO’s to be held accountable as criminals for the implosion of the banks, foreclosures, and loss of retirement funds by the Wall Street pirates. </p>
<p>The biggest fear; socialized democracy. And eventually, the United States becoming a post-consumerist society.</p>
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		<title>By: DeadLast</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1226151</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is how bad it is.  We accept the Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer.  I mean we are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how bad it is.  We accept the Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer.  I mean we are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac.</p>
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		<title>By: DeadLast</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1226148</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Welkom to the new oekonomie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here are the ground rules based upon the Alaska Oil Rebate:  you let the corporations do whatever they want around the world and to the environment, and you can stop paying taxes.  In fact, we will start paying you several hundered dollars a year if you will just shut up about it.  If you don’t shut up, we will label you a terrorist.  Now step right up and get your &lt;strike&gt;Jessie Ventura&lt;/strike&gt; tax-prebate checks!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welkom to the new oekonomie.</p>
<p>Here are the ground rules based upon the Alaska Oil Rebate:  you let the corporations do whatever they want around the world and to the environment, and you can stop paying taxes.  In fact, we will start paying you several hundered dollars a year if you will just shut up about it.  If you don’t shut up, we will label you a terrorist.  Now step right up and get your <strike>Jessie Ventura</strike> tax-prebate checks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: repuglycon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1225940</link>
		<dc:creator>repuglycon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the Chinese money…hooray for incumbents.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the Chinese money…hooray for incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: ProfessorFoland</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1225937</link>
		<dc:creator>ProfessorFoland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ofheo.gov/newsroom.aspx?ID=410&amp;q1=1&amp;q2=None&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OFHEO (Fannie and Freddie regulator) has responded&lt;/a&gt; to the increase in the conforming mortgage limit:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
We are very disappointed in the proposal to increase the conforming loan limit as we believe it is a mistake to do so in the absence of comprehensive GSE regulatory reform.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ofheo.gov/newsroom.aspx?ID=410&amp;q1=1&amp;q2=None" rel="nofollow">OFHEO (Fannie and Freddie regulator) has responded</a> to the increase in the conforming mortgage limit:</p>
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We are very disappointed in the proposal to increase the conforming loan limit as we believe it is a mistake to do so in the absence of comprehensive GSE regulatory reform.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1225849</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OH!  My BAD!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All along, I cynically had thought that the Dems in Congress were doing what seemed personally expedient and pleased their corporate masters.  Little did I know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, it turns out, they are being held ‘hostage’, along with the rest of the country.  They desperately want to do the ‘right’ thing but, deary me, they cannot … because they are actually protecting us from a far worse fate.  In the process, they are being ‘blackmailed’ and ‘threatened’, FORCED to co-operate, bless my soul!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Without the principled, closed-rank stand of ALL those brave and selfless&lt;br /&gt;
Democratic Leaders, placing themselves, as it were, between our unappreciative little selves and the clearly evil and destructive (evil and destructive are no snark) Republic-thugs, things would be unbelievably worse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What?!!  Things couldn’t possibly  be any worse!  Could they?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, we are all in this together (even, whether we like to admit that, or not…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for things getting worse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess we’ll have to wait and see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH!  My BAD!!!</p>
<p>All along, I cynically had thought that the Dems in Congress were doing what seemed personally expedient and pleased their corporate masters.  Little did I know.</p>
<p>Now, it turns out, they are being held ‘hostage’, along with the rest of the country.  They desperately want to do the ‘right’ thing but, deary me, they cannot … because they are actually protecting us from a far worse fate.  In the process, they are being ‘blackmailed’ and ‘threatened’, FORCED to co-operate, bless my soul!</p>
<p>Without the principled, closed-rank stand of ALL those brave and selfless<br />
Democratic Leaders, placing themselves, as it were, between our unappreciative little selves and the clearly evil and destructive (evil and destructive are no snark) Republic-thugs, things would be unbelievably worse.</p>
<p>What?!!  Things couldn’t possibly  be any worse!  Could they?</p>
<p>Fortunately, we are all in this together (even, whether we like to admit that, or not…)</p>
<p>As for things getting worse.</p>
<p>I guess we’ll have to wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1225830</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The cap on who gets money is way too high. The ceiling should be cut, and the money given to the marginally employed. The business breaks are worthless. It doesn’t encourage new investment, because people invest only if there is demand. So all it does is reward people who were going to buy anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Infrastructure repair and construction is the most important thing. It creates demand for labor, and reduces costs for everyone. And it leaves something for the next generation, which is important, because they are going to pay for this stimulus package in higher taxes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is almost impossible to count the damage this generation of Americans has done to our country. I’m just sick of baby-booomers, and I am one. We let the republican ideologues just destroy the nation, beginning with the election of Reagan, and continuing to this day. Sad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cap on who gets money is way too high. The ceiling should be cut, and the money given to the marginally employed. The business breaks are worthless. It doesn’t encourage new investment, because people invest only if there is demand. So all it does is reward people who were going to buy anyway.</p>
<p>Infrastructure repair and construction is the most important thing. It creates demand for labor, and reduces costs for everyone. And it leaves something for the next generation, which is important, because they are going to pay for this stimulus package in higher taxes.</p>
<p>It is almost impossible to count the damage this generation of Americans has done to our country. I’m just sick of baby-booomers, and I am one. We let the republican ideologues just destroy the nation, beginning with the election of Reagan, and continuing to this day. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/25/economic-stimulus-or-political-bailout/#comment-1225803</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are only a handful of dems who are worth anything.  The rest of them are dumb slacker suck ups to their money people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only a handful of dems who are worth anything.  The rest of them are dumb slacker suck ups to their money people.</p>
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