House Democratic and Republican leaders reached tentative agreement on a "stimulus package" yesterday, and President Bush quickly praised and endorsed it. That would be the President whose economic stewardship has been one of the worst in our history and the Republican leadership that has spent the last year cynically obstructing virtually every worthwhile proposal the Democrats have sponsored.
So the question before the American people is whether any package that has the agreement of this President and Republican leadership is worth doing. Or is this really a package designed merely to boost Congress' and Bush's dismal approval ratings?
Ian Welsh last night provided a helpful guide on what Congress might include in a good economic stimulus bill, complementing this post from Tula Connell. It's worth rereading these posts, but to summarize (paraphrasing), Ian suggested at least three main objectives:
(1) Focus relief on those who most need it. That means getting extra money to the poor and middle class and not worrying about those with higher incomes. Historically that included those who lost their jobs and those relying on food stamps, along with those in the lowest income tax brackets as well as those who may not make enough to pay taxes.
(2) Provide real stimulus by getting people to spend more. The goal is to increase "aggregate demand" -- spending -- so getting money to those most likely to spend it quickly is achieved via the first point, getting the money to those who most need it.
(3) Include measures that address the economy's structural problems. As Ian noted, "There's a lot wrong with the US economy, but the MoveOn idea of starting a Clean Energy Corps and investing in green energy to reduce energy costs is a good idea." Other ideas might include addressing the causes of the housing and associated financial collapse.
Judging from the Washington Post's description, the tentative agreement ranges from fair to mediocre to wasteful. Krugman just calls it "bad." (h/t Knut) While the deal provides rebates to tax payers below a certain income cap and some relief to workers who don't pay taxes, it inexplicably leaves out the most effective items like extended unemployment benefits and increased funding for food stamps.
Under the deal, nearly everyone who earned a paycheck in 2007 would receive at least $300 from the Internal Revenue Service -- $103 billion in total. Most people would receive rebates of $600 each, or $1,200 per couple. Families with children would receive an additional payment of $300 per child. Workers who earned at least $3,000 last year -- but not enough to pay income taxes -- would be eligible for $300.
. . . Rebates would be limited, however, to single taxpayers with adjusted gross income up to $75,000 -- up to $150,000 for couples. Above that, the benefit would phase out until hitting zero for individuals with adjusted income of about $87,000, $174,000 for couples.
For more examples, see this AP breakdown (h/t Ian)
States traditionally provide assistance to those in need, but during a recession, state budgets suffer, forcing state legislatures to curtail funding of Medicaid and other vital programs. Democrats wanted to provide additional funding for state relief, but the Republicans refused. They also refused to agree on any public works funding, even though near-term public infrastructure investment is sorely needed and makes economic sense.
The WaPo story claims Pelosi agreed to give up on these latter ideas -- all consistent with a good plan -- in exchange for Boehner dropping objections to payments to non-tax payers. But in reality, that agreement merely constrained the mostly good parts to 2/3 of the total $145 billion package, which left the Republicans enough of the total to fund their pet tax breaks for businesses:
In return, however, the deal includes provisions from Boehner that would allow faster tax write-offs for corporate investment and immediate tax deductions for small-business investment in plants and equipment.
So private investment gets 1/3 of the pie; desperately needed public investment gets zip. Sound familiar? There are also provisions allowing Fannie/Freddie to purchase higher cost mortgages -- that looks like a lending industry bailout. But the deal includes nothing to address the underlying causes of the current housing crisis and its associated financial melt down.
The Senate Finance Committee will take up the issue next, with Democrats already promising to restore the "good plan" elements and Republicans opposed to letting them in. The results so far are not promising.
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‘morning Scarecrow.
Good Morning Scarecrow!
Good morning Scarecrow and FDLers. Thanks Scarecrow for an excellent summation.
It also smacks of “kicking the can down the road” if you believe that housing prices are still way too high and need to come down. It seems to me that attempts to keep the housing bubble inflated are not very smart policy, at least in the long run.
The stim package will be a transfer of taxpayers money or future taxpayers to the wealthy once again. It will no stimulus on the economy except jin up the market fora few days.
The economy is broken and bandaids aren’t going to cure the disease raging through the entire economy.
The whole thing needs to be redone.
it’s a joke is what it is, and an offensive one at that.
$300? I thought Bush senior was out of touch when he didn’t know how a grocery scanner works, but this goes beyond that.
As has been pointed out, no one’s going to spend the money: they’re just going to use it to pay bills. And with $800, yeah I could make a little headway. but $300? That barely covers 2 trips to the grocery. It doesn’t even buy 100 gallons of fuel oil.
It’s like the government is WC Fields and Americans are that kid he throws a nickel at saying “go away kid, ya bother me, ya bother me…”
Good morning Scarecrow. I have no idea how to get more pissed off with Pelosi than I am. She really is a, rotten to the core bit**, Nancy Cruella. I am retired, on soc. sec. I pay taxes as my wife and I file jointly and my “income” is counted in the pile but because I did not get a paycheck I get fu**ing squat. I just sent Edwards another $25… what else can I do. I am pissed
The money in the hands of people who don’t need it will be used to pay of credit card debt… spent on junk which was made in china… it certainly won’t result in more jobs with decent wages and a repair of a infrastructure or restoring and preserving our environment or getting us off our addiction to fossil fuels.
Good morning everyone.
I missed the Repub’s debate last night, but reports this a.m. suggest the Republicans are under the illusion they’ll be running against Hillary Clinton. I think they’re in for a shock, no matter who the Democratic nominee is. They’re going to have to run against the Republican record and the massive public anger/disgust with what Bush and his supporters have done to the country.
Take a look at the first link in the post, which compares conditions at the end of 8 years of Bill Clinton versus conditions today. That’s what they have to run against, and it’s devastating.
listening to cspan this morning, there are those who will be sending their checks off to NOT REPUBLICAN political campaigns. That can’t be bad.
EPU’ed and For Elliot below, and ’cause I need hope. on post administration possible impeachments.
Here is a delicious bit that could take down Goodbadling and all the testimonial train wreckers, in principle
it’s your lucky day, Scarecrow, it’ll be rebroadcast on CSPAN at ten am!
Politically it’s certainly not bad, but it’s not going to do anything for the economy, which is what this exercise is supposed to be about.
The amounts are trivial compared to individual needs, but in theory, economic stimulus packages are not intended to fix any individuals’ financial problems. It’s the wrong way to think about it.
Traditionally, a package is designed to have an aggregate effect — an effect on total spending in the country — and a substantial portion of the $145 billion in a good package would likely do that. The individual rebates don’t solve any individual’s problem, but that doesn’t matter for this kind of approach, because it’s the aggregate effect that matters.
Because the goal is to increase aggregate spending, economists argue for giving the money to those most likely to spend it — i.e., expanded food stamps is a great idea — and it happens to be good policy and redistributes wealth, etc. So when the package leaves out food stamps and extended unemployment compensation and diverts the money to tax breaks that are much less likely to lead to immediate spending, economists just scratch their heads — which they’ve been doing a lot of the last few years.
One other thing before I leave for my morning constitutional (being retired really is grand), the comments on Krugman’s Stimulus disappointment blog entry make for interesting reading. And there are almost 70 so far. Obviously a lot of people are up in arms about this topic.
It will in the long term as we will get a dem pres.
It’s hard to spend more if you’re in the hole, you know?
Gas prices have increased at least 60% over the last year; a working stiff earning lowest wages will not feel an improvement in their situation when they get their “stimulating check”. They won’t spend it on more of anything, they’ll simply be digging out of a hole.
What a piece of crap legislation. On the other hand, it’s really hard to do anything more than slap one of those teeny little bandages on this hemorrhage as long as Bush is in office and as long as the Senate is not a true progressive majority. This problem has been brewing for nearly the entire length of Bush’s administration; we could see it coming back in 2002-2003 when we couldn’t buy a house here in flyover country because there were so many people buying up houses with their overly cheap mortgages. They were using cheap mortgages to prop up the economy then, which tells us that the Bush tax cut of his earliest days in office really was a bust over the long run.
And now the long-deferred piper must be paid. Chalk up another created disaster.
What could be more Republican than the Governor of the country’s poorest state taking the Katrina grant money it was given and spending it on port facilities rather than housing for the poor? Check out MSNBC’s front page.
Hope you’re right. Seeing these current Congressional Dems in action though I’m not so sure.
You are right. We must work hard to get a larger majority in the Senate and a more progressive majority in the House.
As my neighbour said about the “stimulus” package yesterday “It is like taking an asp**in instead of a vi**ra”
Ah, perfect. Thanks for the link.
So the question before the American people is whether any package that has the agreement of this President and Republican leadership is worth doing. Or is this really a package designed merely to boost Congress’ and Bush’s dismal approval ratings?
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i was thinking this last nite…we need bankruptcy relief,healthcare relief …gasoline gauging releif…poor people need THE MOST HELP and their needs are being ignored…this is cosmetic…THE DEMS should let the Titanic sink with ALL HANDS ON DECK imo
‘morning all - coffee is ready, get it while it’s hot…
In theory yes, in practice most of that money will not be spent on things, but on relieving some of the oppressive debt people are under.
When people have debt they are less like to spend on things and that is where they are at these days.
I don’t think too many HDTVs are going to be sold and even if they are the money goes offshore and not into THIS economy.
it is a vicious cycle…the tee vee,and all the junk hawked on it,make people go out and spend the money they dont have…it is seductive
The pusillanimity of our Democratic leadership never ceases to amaze. Lee Atwater and Karl Rove did a great job on our party. The balls were cut off deep and good, and until we get a new generation of leaders won’t grow back. They had Bush on the stove, and they let him off.
I have been trying to figure this one out. The only answer I can come up with is their fear of negative advertising. Even with the thugs as weak as they are, our people are still afraid. It’s days like this that remind me our democracy is probably doomed.
Scarecrow,
With all due respect… we have more than a broken system, we have a fundamentally flawed system that needs more than tweaks and stim packages or bandaids.
Just like the fed dicking around with the money supply is nothing more than a fix for a junkie so he can get up and walk or get a meal… sooner or later he needs another fix. We need to solve the real problem of the economy and no one wants to discuss it. This form of laissez fair free market monopolist top down capitalism is not gonna work. It’s one phoney bubble after the next… like the new casino in town to gamble in. How pathetic. And how cowardly of our pols not to see and face the facts.
Per Krugman “Stimulus Gone Bad” in this morning’s NYT:
Emphasis added.
right you are… even those that decide to spend will OVERSPEND and take on more debt… They may decide to go for the HDTV but their CC balance will go up a thousand too.
Unfortunately the economy can not be allowed to crumble. Congress could however start doing their job and begin reversing some of the horrible legislation that is at the core of these problems. Bandaids and prop-ups are not what is needed. The real problem is there are no problem solving skills in congress, NONE.
Even Krugman is a bit afraid to call BS on the entire system we have. He works for the real estate paper which proudly has a “living section” pushes decadent excesses to the property class.
Krugman’s column this morning was right on. Empirical analysis of what economists call the ‘consumption function’, which is the relation between real income and aggregate spending, has revealed not one but at least two such functions, one for relatively well-off people who ’smooth’ consumption by setting aside windfall income for a rainy day in the future, and those who are what we call ‘cash-constrained’, who spend what they get as soon as they get it. The plan should have been directed to the latter, who need it most, and will spend it fastest.
Aren’t there any economists on the House and Senate staffs, or all they all trust-fund babies?
You got me thinking. If I get my pool cleaned and my car detailed I can use the $300 to pay the undocumented workers. They, in turn, can then spend the money on stuff like food and petrol. Stimulating the economy is easy if you think about it.
Agreed. Also, we as a society have a totally insane mental model of how the economy works. It’s all based on Reaganomics, which doesn’t work. Much more regimented economies are outperforming ours, notably the European Union and China.
When about to be gang-raped, it is probably wise to hope that the gang-members who ‘do’ you are democrats -
They are not so vicious or mean-spirited as the republicans …
I’m sure glad there is a bright side. I mean really, aren’t you?
Yes the economy MUST crumble and a completely new one created. No one will make the broad measures to turn this one around. It would be heresy.
This is merely a scheme to buy time. $1200 per family will mainly be used to pay down debt, not generate true productive economic activity.
Buying time is a perfectly acceptable thing to do, if you have a plan for what you’re going to do with that time. But I don’t think there is such a plan.
Robert Reich (former Clinton Secretary of Labor) has been commenting on this plan. I strongly recommend reading his take on it. You can get a feel for his take from the title of the post: “The Politics of an Economic Nightmare”. A short bit:
Raising the conforming mortgage limit is pure insanity. Making money easily available for overpriced real estate is how we got into this mess in the first place.
please don’t joke about rape
We are not the greatest nation in the world.
We don’t have an infallible economy.
We are not the greatest thing since sliced bread on planet earth.
We need to get over that and disabuse Americans that they are god’s gift to the world.
Your argument is not with me. There are lots of fundamental problems that need to be addressed. I’m not talking about any of those. I’m addressing only the narrow question of whether the package that’s being described as an “economic stimulus plan” meets a good economist’s (e.g., Krugman) criteria for such plans. Even here, with only limited goals, it falls well short.
The economists would agree that lots of other reforms are needed to achieve other, important objectives. But the specific objective of quickly stimulating aggregate demand — via near-term consumer spending — is the focus here. So, for example, we agree that we need to change the tax code to reverse the bias towards the wealthy, but that’s not something you address with a stimulus plan.
OT: Latest from Zogby re SC:
38% Obama (-5% since debate)
25% Clinton (even)
21% Edwards (+4%)
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1434
Idealistically perhaps you are correct. The reality is something else. There are 300 million people in this country. What happens when there is no money?
I am not suggesting that what we have is fixable this week or next month. I am however suggesting that unless and until the f*cking idiots are taken out of the policy loop nothing will get fixed.
It would make sense to look at how other developed countries are running their economies. The Europeans in particular have great economic performance and much better social services and “quality of life.” And, they pay higher taxes.
CNN coverage all focused on how much each person/family will get, and not on whether the tax rebates have the claimed effect.
NH phonejammer now on CSPAN
How to Rig an Election
Thank you, Scarecrow. Articulated so much succinctly than I am capable of. And now, back to my lurky liar.
I originally thought of it as giving ourselves money we don’t have to begin with, but Scarecrow (and others) persuaded me that the stimulus was a good idea.
BUT, that was back when the plan was to give money to those who would most likely spend it in a way that WOULD stimulate the economy.
But our courageous Democratic leaders capitulated on the very heart of the idea. *spit
And have universal health care, and more vacation time, and higher productivity, and good public transportation……..
Much more tightly regulated. They understand that unregulated capatlism destroys itself very quickly. Greed, you know.
Thanks, I’ve included the Krugman link.
dont remind me…however Italy is about to get….BERLUS,,SCUMMY back …oy
He’s coming to FDL Book Salon on Sat. Feb 9th. (Scroll down)
Did Nancy address the Democrats pledge of Pay as we go? You know that pledge they made back in 2006 that said they would not support any new funding unless it was offset with tax revenues from someplace else in order to not add to the Ginormous defecit. I guess that too was a hollow pledge. I am dismayed with Democratic leadership. How do people so incompetent get to leadership positions?
MONEY
Looks like he’s right on target. Thanks for the link.
It’s part of the Democrats master plan to return themselves to minority status.
here’s the only way to really stimulate our economy;
take the middle class assets that were given to the pals of the administration, use those assets to maintain and rebuild our infrastructure
bing, economy stimulated, absolutely no cost to anyone since the assets are not being taken from anyone the assets are being reclaimed
thanks Peterr, that should be an interesting book salon
I hope everyone got to see kieth O on the lies told on the run up to WAR
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....5#22811475
If not here it is
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....5#22811475
Good morning Scarecrow, pups!
ya, this way they won’t have to show up for work, they hate showing up for work
In fairness, pay-go doesn’t typically apply to stimulus packages. The theory is: Facing a downturn, you do deficit spending; you borrow money and spend it. When the economy is up, you’re supposed to pay it back, as Clinton did in the late 1990s.
Im going to Kinkos today to send this to DEMOCREATS imagine that
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/images/const.jpg
im sending it to Democrats also lol
Sorry Elliot I did not mean to offend.
And I do not see it as a joke, ever.
But what else would you choose to call the plunderings and pillages of our ‘betters’ are we merely being ‘outfoxed’, ‘made suckers of’, or just ‘educated in the ways of the world’?
Are we being ‘played’, ‘toyed with’, or just ‘marginalized’?
Our entire political class are simpering narcisists, and many in the higher reaches of the ‘corporate elite’ are engaged in fundamentally destructive, if not outright criminal behavior. Our educational system is failing the needs of the young, deliberately. Our future has been mortgaged to the greedy manipulation of clever, uncaring little souls and the environmental realities we are facing as a SPECIES are well be beyond our meager mental and, apparently, ‘moral’ sensibilities, both in terms of grasp and, most likely, capacity; in terms of ‘dealing’ with it.
In the slightly longer run, our economic travails, which look to become quite grim, more so, certainly, than has, as yet, sunk in.
Every single wrong move, every single appeasment to greed or hubris, every single capitulation to the WAR madness, every single failure to make the right choices in so many areas and in so many ways simply adds to the burden we place on the future and the capacity of the planet to sustgain human life.
Do I think the current ’stage-play’ of American Pol-i-tics is counterproductive, fundamentally unconstitutional, deliberatly Un-
democratic and intentionally insufficient?
Things have gone rather beyond polite drawing-room commentary, and language, again deliberately, has been robbed of meaning and legitimacy,
its fuction now, is to shock and awe, or simply desemble; meaning and ’substance’ are replaced by ‘hype’ and ‘appearance’.
But again, I apologize if the rawness of my words offended you.
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I would not hire Pelosi to negotiate on behalf of my mutt to get more dog biscuits. She should read an old book called “The Art of Negotiating”.
I’ll bet your mutt would do a better job of negotiating on his own. At least if the dog biscuits he already has were being taken away he would probably growl…
No he looks at me with thos ’sad’ looking eyes and it works. He could negotiate a better deal than Pelosi. She is incompetent.
You are right and I understand. My frustration lies with this continous capitulation by our Democratic leadership to this administration with an approval rating at 29%. If the R’s refused to support the extension of Food Stamps and Unemployment, in order to gain advantage for their big business buddies, yell and proclaim it. Tell the world we are not going to get a stimulus package done because of the President’s obstinance. Instead the Dems roll over and say we will try later when we have no leverage. Surely, that will work.
Our congress critters are slaves to their corporate masters and their own greed. They have been drinking the kool aid too long to even have a clue that this country is completely in the hands of corporate interests who care not a bit about democracy and the people.
We are a nation that worships at the alter of wealth, consumption and the idea of winning (and creating a loser class).
How about getting the credit card companies to forgive a certain percentage of our debt - say give us all $5000 or so on each card. That would be a stimulus.
Yes, we have a crisis of leadership in Congress. We could write about that every day. The Republicans will be running on the worst economic record in decades, but it appears the Dems couldn’t wait to give the Republicans some cover, while settling (so far — it’s just the House) for a mediocre plan.
This is precisely the point I just can’t get my head around in all of this. (For instance, OTOH I perfectly understand the nonsensical-tax-breaks-just-to-appear-to-be-doing-something kabuki.) Dems should kick the GOP off the reservation, make the plan they want, then go on TV saying, “We’re here to save the George Bush’s sorry-ass economy.” Why, why, why would you give them any cover at all?
What we need to get this country moving again
is lots of tax cuts at the top.
Because America was built by people like Donald Trump, Stan O’Neal and Jeffrey Eppstein.
no,she and her husband own a vinyard in Calif she is of THE RULING CLASS that is all she is a VERY RICH woman…she negotiated the deal SHE WANTED to
It’s a thoroughgoing Republican fiscally irresponsible bill. Congress is still of the mindeset that it essentially exists to serve at the beck and call of the White House. To quote Dan Froomkin: Historians looking back on the Bush presidency may well wonder if Congress actually existed.
imo…it is aplay casted by the plutocrats…they each have A ROLE,that they play very well and split up the proceeds
That’s a little unfair, I think. I’m sure the NYT pays him for his regular Op Eds, but Krugman is a well respected and quite liberal Professor of Economics and International Affairs at Princeton University. And has a pretty good track record of criticizing the NYT when he feels it’s warranted.
My question about the Tax Rebate is will We have to pay for it on our 2009 Taxes?
Lets see….. April 15th just months after our brand new shiny Democratic President is getting their sea legs AND the outcry over having to pay TAXES for Bushes rebate?
The Repugs have put Democrats in the SEE I told you they would raise your taxes spin machine
It seems Romney may be pulling a GW with an ear piece at the debate last night. Guess he needs coaching with his answers.
“In tonight’s MSNBC Florida debates, when Romney is asked a question about Ronald Reagan - “will you do for social security what Ronald Reagan did in 1983″- you can hear a voice whisper “raised taxes” and then Romney says “I’m not going to raise taxes, what I’m going to do …”
http://stewart-rhodes.blogspot.....uppet.html
OTHER THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT PELOSI:
1. Accepted the Cesar Chavez Legacy Award for supporting (& accepting political support from)the farmworkers’ union. She has NON-UNION EMPLOYEES at her $25M grape vinyard in Northern CA.
The AFL-CIO’s Hotel Employees & Restaurant Employees have contributed more to her campaigns than any other congressional candidate &…
2. As part owner with substancial holdings in an exclusive hotel/resort called Auberdu Soliel & a restaurant chain called Piatti Pelosi employs NON-UNION EMPLOYEES.
Many of the employees are immigrant labor, one of the most exploited segments of our society.
Arrrgh, a limosine liberal she be. One that talks the talk, but dosen’t seem to be able to walk the walk in HER personal business affairs, yet she’s going to lead the liberals in legislation that support unions, minimum wage, laws targeting employers of illegals, etc…
sorry, your Stan O’Neal link didn’t work, is this who you were referring to?
It appears that, if this package doesn’t work, there will be more in the future.
It looks like we Democrats could at least make some hay in pointing out that the whole concept of a stimulus package is Keynesian anathema to the Norquistian Republican base, and for the Bush Administration to have to restort to any such measure should be like drinking sewage to the Republican base. Their candidates ought to be pressed about the matter also.
will we EVER find the REAL democrats???????
Haven’t you learned by now? The Democrats are caving into Bush for one of two reasons. Either they are suffering extreme Stockholm Syndrome or they think that caving into Bush at every turn will bring them the 2008 election. If that is the case then they are all cowards(Which I can certainly believe). Which means that we elected a bunch of children to do the job of men and women.
I love Krug’s work, but his paper is shameless advocate for the good life of the property class.
they are players,im afraid
Can we make Jim Webb Senate Majority Leader? I know he is not perfect, but I bet he’d keep Miss McConnell(h/t Howie) in line.
The one and only. Sorry for the bad link.
let them have the good life,but CANT WE provide for others as well?
The Dems behave as though they believe the country is being held hostage by Bush, so you have to cooperate with him to survive.
apparently that is the case.
Thank you Scarecrow
It is obviously a political bailout. Bi-partisan has come to mean that Bush won’t veto the bill because it is something he needs too. Reid and Pelosi are just about the worst Democratic leaders I’ve seen in a long time. They only listen to the money and themselves. The rest of us are just collateral damage.
they are not that stupid…Mr. 25 % is not fooling the public….a deal has been madeimo
There are only a handful of dems who are worth anything. The rest of them are dumb slacker suck ups to their money people.
The cap on who gets money is way too high. The ceiling should be cut, and the money given to the marginally employed. The business breaks are worthless. It doesn’t encourage new investment, because people invest only if there is demand. So all it does is reward people who were going to buy anyway.
Infrastructure repair and construction is the most important thing. It creates demand for labor, and reduces costs for everyone. And it leaves something for the next generation, which is important, because they are going to pay for this stimulus package in higher taxes.
It is almost impossible to count the damage this generation of Americans has done to our country. I’m just sick of baby-booomers, and I am one. We let the republican ideologues just destroy the nation, beginning with the election of Reagan, and continuing to this day. Sad.
OH! My BAD!!!
All along, I cynically had thought that the Dems in Congress were doing what seemed personally expedient and pleased their corporate masters. Little did I know.
Now, it turns out, they are being held ‘hostage’, along with the rest of the country. They desperately want to do the ‘right’ thing but, deary me, they cannot … because they are actually protecting us from a far worse fate. In the process, they are being ‘blackmailed’ and ‘threatened’, FORCED to co-operate, bless my soul!
Without the principled, closed-rank stand of ALL those brave and selfless
Democratic Leaders, placing themselves, as it were, between our unappreciative little selves and the clearly evil and destructive (evil and destructive are no snark) Republic-thugs, things would be unbelievably worse.
What?!! Things couldn’t possibly be any worse! Could they?
Fortunately, we are all in this together (even, whether we like to admit that, or not…)
As for things getting worse.
I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
OFHEO (Fannie and Freddie regulator) has responded to the increase in the conforming mortgage limit:
Thank you for the Chinese money…hooray for incumbents.
Welkom to the new oekonomie.
Here are the ground rules based upon the Alaska Oil Rebate: you let the corporations do whatever they want around the world and to the environment, and you can stop paying taxes. In fact, we will start paying you several hundered dollars a year if you will just shut up about it. If you don’t shut up, we will label you a terrorist. Now step right up and get your
Jessie Venturatax-prebate checks!!!This is how bad it is. We accept the Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer. I mean we are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac.
Rule #1, there is no such thing as a ‘free lunch.’ The “tax rebate” is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Undoubtedly it will be reported as “earned income” on the 2009 federal and state income tax forms. We are borrowing from our future income. And subjected to payment of taxes, medicare, social security, etc.. in 2009 on the ‘tax rebate’.
Rule #2, Never forget, the elitist and corporatist politicians despise the ‘unwashed masses.’ They almost nullified our votes with the electronic diebold
machinationsmachines, almost. Yes, we got Bush for 2 terms, but the voters will not accept these in the next election.Rule #3, Always remember, elitist live in paranoia and fear of the
unwashed massesjacobins. They fear the demand and return of our stolen wealth, redistributed in the form of living wages, nationalized healthcare, and high interest rates on savings. There would be a massive pull-out of Wall Street high stakes gambling. 401k’s are just another scheme to steal the savings of the hated masses. And even worse, that the practice of government socialism for the top 10% would be reversed for the lower 90%.Rule #4. Fear of mob rule. That we demand the punishment and imprisonment of the politicians, bankers (Gollum Sachs), basically all the pirates who created and implemented the
current hedge fund, derivative, CDO’s ponziBanks Gone Wild scheme. The demand of bankers, CEO’s to be held accountable as criminals for the implosion of the banks, foreclosures, and loss of retirement funds by the Wall Street pirates.The biggest fear; socialized democracy. And eventually, the United States becoming a post-consumerist society.
Why is it that Bush, Pelosi, and Reid are offering the no free lunch tax rebate instead of reinstituting the Glass-Steagall 1933 Act as well as other laws and regulations? Why is it that no one is being held accountable and imprisoned for this ponzi scheme? Because all the pirates are in bed together.
As Benjamin Franklin stated, “Yes, we must indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
“We accept Chinese money to pay for over-priced middle eastern oil, because we don’t think society is going to last that much longer. We are already on the maximum dosage of Prozac”.
Could global warming be the eath’s way of fighting back against our politics?