my old home town

evening Jane

Fla is in dire straits

Low comedy?

thanks Jeb

Jane!!!

Jeb demolished an S&L all by his wittle self…Broward Savins and Loan,the booooooooshies really know how to work it

“Watching Rudy make a desperte Hail Mary pass tonight could be the evening’s best sport.” A little typo there…

Let the show begin!

Bout time for Rudy to get his lunch eaten in public. Should be out of the race by a week from Monday. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy….whassa matta Rudy- devil got yer tongue?

remember Anthrax in BocaRaton….Rootie was supposed to clean it up

wunner if Brian will ask him bout it

Let’s see if Brian Williams and Timmeh spend 45 minutes trying to start a fight tonight…

I’d like to see Ghouliani come in behind Ron Paul.

Not that I like Ron Paul at all.

McCain and Romney duel? KO. Sounds like fun!

Poor Rudy-One-Note can only sing one note. Mitt the Sh*t might be a hit.

That will tell the story, won’t it?

I’m rooting for it. Fair is fair, ya know…

that would be uncivilized

Will Huckabee be the McCain surragate and go after Romney? (Chuck Todd)

Has anyone already noted that there’s a reason why Florida ends in DUH?

will nora be wearing her catwoman costume?

HA!

the stage still looks crowded

hahahahaha

Timmeh’s got the game-face on. Not that that means anything – it’s Timmeh, fer chrissakes…

“9iu11iani”

lmao.

He has become such a joke around people I work with. Those who ordinarily stay on the periphery of political discussion suddenly feel right in the middle of it all when they make their crack about Rudy 911. sucks to be him. love it.

What a softball first question! Why not start with imminent nuclear holocaust like they did with the Dems?

i miss Fred,he must be getting some good zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CAMILLE is on cant watch these bozos when i can watch Garbo

Let me please ask each of you to consider voting Democratic next November. My woman and i are somewhat put off by a couple of our candidates. But we at this point will vote Democratic in the next elections. It is imperative that we oust the GOP from the White House. We think.

wish Rachel Maddow was asking questions… now, THAT would be entertainment!

And for kicks wouldn’t it be fun to see Katherine Harris carrying round cards? /snark

McCain looks tense

I don’t know what planet that old putz lives on, but I’m sure not “planning my 2010 budget.” What a maroon.

The downside is that he’s turned 9/11 into a subject of derision. We NYers have thick hides, but it’s too bad anyhow.

I’m planning on how to pay my mortgage next month!

9iu11ani, he’s tan, he’s fit, he’s failing…

why was McCain saying “we need to save”, when the agreement seems to be that we all need to go shopping?

Me too! To say nothing of the utilities and the groceries…

Oh gawd. McCain is on and it’s the same old cut corporate income taxes thingie. Mc Cain says we (workers and consumers) ought to save money. This is not funny in the least.

it’s a record!

rudy just spoke for 90 seconds without mentioning you know what!

Did Ghouli just say that Sen Bond and somebody else introduced *his* (Ghouli’s) tax policy in the Senate yesterday?

Delusions of grandeur much?

And Rudy says we need to cut spending. Does that include Iraq?

Mixing up short run & long run.

now THAT’S a great idea

McCain is extolling the “Reagan Revolution”.

I was gonna suggest “tax cuts” or “stimulus” as trigger words for a drinking game.

Bad idea averted.

All those people McCain is mentioning who support him on economics–today’s voters don’t know who they are.

I must say these guys make me want to take a nap.

Rudy turning the disaster into a subject of derision by association is not lost on me, but to be clear, it is Rudy that is the subject of derision.

I think he named Marty Feldman

McCain claims that Paul Krugman misquoted him (paragraph 4). Or maybe he just forgot… He is getting on in years.

I cannot testify as to how long Lahoma is going to stay with this Republican “debate”.

Nice to see Brian Williams and Tim Russert being consistent tonight by starting this debate with 25 minutes of stupid questions about race, as they did with the Democrats last week.

For sure, but 9/11 tarred by associaton.

Timmeh – “Governor Huck, ya wanna take a shot at Willard?”

Huck – “Stimulate the economy by fixing the roads”.

Huck talking New Deal.

I know who he his, but how many voters do?

Romney smirking condescendingly at The Huckster

Mitt complementing McCain and Rudy. A desperate plea, hoping they won’t beat him up tonight.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ commuter train zzzzzzzzzzzzz bush cut taxes ZZZZZZZZZZ tough times zzzzzzzzz economy in their DNA ZZZZZZZZ tax cuts permanent zzzzzzzzzzzz

Lahoma has left the scene (watching the Rebublican debate). She indicated she can’t take it.

Oh, Gawd, PLEASE don’t let McCain laugh again. It just absolutely creeps me out when he does that.

Lahoma is a wise woman.

Yeah, American Concrete…!

McCain – “Tax cuts good – Spending bad”. Thank you.

Brian has such incredible credentials….he is a FIRST CLASS teleprompter reader as his equally qualified colleague tinkerbell Couric…BWAhahahahahaha….these people look into the camera,and tell America what to think

McCain talking about when the GOPs “lost an election” like it was the worst thing in the world. Although he doesn’t explain how to restrain spending.

How come the GOPs get all the serious questions tonite, unlike the stupid Brian Williams questions last week?

Bizzaro EPU’ed by posting upstairs. RON PAUL!

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Fuklebee plan is to disallow tax rebate to be spent on China goods – no thats just his lead. He is down with putting it into jobs and construction and people stuck in traffic.

I gotta say I stand up and clap that he is talking about trillions wasted sitting in tolls and traffic. I wish he did not have to put in the China slam/contrast first though.

“Massachusetts is in a ditch…I went on a tour of the USA for a Presidential launch while making fun of MA all across the country”
~ Mitt

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Wow, the no “Bush” mention rule is even meaning that none of the candidates are calling McCain voting against the original Bush taxs cuts (only to extend them).

I wish Fred was still here.

These guys are BORING!!

Scripted RW pablum delivered in monotones.

Poor Rudy-One-Note can only sing one note.

In honor of Rudy’s bilingual campaign in Florida:

Carlos Jobim

Open odds on Ron Paul and his FISA stance. Who laughs at him or mocks him – and does McCain call him Stalin or something?

geez, they guys just exude charisma!

It’s good to see The Huckster making such a concrete proposal.

Ron Paul sounds like a sane Pat Buchanan.

Damn, Ron Paul is going to tell the truth on the dollar and people are going to be all zikes.

Hey maybe the mods will ask him if he is “talking down the econ”.

Not bad for a blockhead.

Hey they are asking about their likely buddy from Countrywide walking out of a worthless company with a 110 million USD package.

Rootie is tri lingual?

Well friends… I think watching the Republican debate tonight is far less exciting than watching the lichen grow. I’m going upstairs. Lahoma has inquired if I’d like to play some gin rummy.

Rudi talking about the Saudi prince — watch him dance!

It’s going to take me a while to wrap my head around that concept. Wow. I never thought I’d see “sane” and “Pat Buchanan” used in the same sentence.

Ghoul managed to mention the “Twin Towers”

RUDY!
You should have ripped the check up, not given it back.

Have a grand evening, you two.

Yeah, he tries! *G*

9iu11iani’s voice is shaking?

Rudi sez the Japanese bought Brian Williams’ building. Does he mean Rockefeller Center or Brian’s home in the Hamptons?

He is trying to talk his way out of showing a nutjob with 10 million USD NYC Ground zero at the request of the WH.

must be that old headache

I prefer the clintons and obama mixing it up

to this

Pubs know they haven’t got a chance in Nov. – I think they’ve given up

Tim Russert running the GOP’s failure numbers.

TIMMAH!

Nice, the R’s are going to school on the economic record.

EEEEK…. Rudy’s grabbed the wrong teeth again…

Rudy – “I’m pretty much in favor of trade – pretty much in favor of free trade…”

Bravely taking a stand, I give you – Rudeeee!!

McCain’s giving us some “straight talk” amidst his lies about Democrats.

McCain “the Democrat debates” doesn’t know a noun from an adjective

McCain straight talkin’ “Dems tax and spend”.

Hey, McCain still rembers the easy lie as “straight talk”.

The Dems will tax you into oblivion.

- No McCain he just read the stats. The bridge to no-where…that has to be his likely great friend Ted Stevens (R – Alaska)

McCain, “Dems! pork barrel spending! Dems!”

ya think John Gibson makes the 10 million dollar paycheck also,i know the little squirt does

McCain just mentioned “the bridge to nowhere” for the 2nd time tonight

Huckabee sez “I wasn’t there messing things up.”

I’m beginning to think McCain is kinda against “The Bridge to Nowhere”.

Huck panders to the fearful.

ooh. Huckster praising Bush!!! Now, that’s a novel approach.

Hucklebee’s talking to the people at the bottom of the economy.

hucksterbee’s trying hard not to sound nuts

Huckabee – winning debate after debate if they give him a chance. I mean 2nd place since Ron Paul has won all the other but for one.

McCain: Veto! Veto! Veto!

Mitt just short circuted since he could not answer the question.

He is a “changeBot”.

Mitt:

I’ll run away from the record of Washington.

I hate when they say they’ll cut spending by cutting pork-barrel spending and there’s no follow-up about spending on the wars. (currently 2 wars, soon to add Pakistan, then maybe Iran….and there’s always Syria)

all of them are

Romneybot moves kind of like the Tin Woodman…before he got oiled.

I’ll repeat my stance on “absurd social programs”. The first one I would cut is spreading democracy in the ME.

Mittbot 2008 – I am not from Wash-ing-ton. I am not from Wash-ing-ton. My dad was 3-time Gov.

He did call out Obama’s Regean line: “We are the party of ideas” or tactics, or something terrible.

Ghouli’s doing that creepy eye-popping thing

“the bridge to nowhere” count

#3

by mittens

Willard – “We are the party of change.”

Get the hook – call the guys with the straight-jackets!

Ghouli – There isn’t anything you can possibly name that I didn’t accomplish as Mayor of New York.

Mitt says repubs are the party of fiscal responsibility. Imagine if they were irresponsible, the trouble we’d be in.

Ron Paul finger up: This is a New Era. (Econ & dollar)

you’d think the Rs could afford better sound equipment.

It’s that scary echo thing from the Wizard of Oz. That’s why Mitt is in Tin Man mode.

McCain sez we are succeeding in Iraq! Claims Clinton said she wants to wave the white flag of surrender, just the other nite.

I don’t remember her saying that.

Great question. Can’t sustain the wars, either militarily or financially. McCain says no one told him that.

McCain: Withdraw troops over time. 10,000 every 10 years.

Gee I do not think there would be American casualties if there was no American military presense (or if there were it would likely lead to war).

McCain says, “I know of no military leader…that says we cannot succeed in Irak” Oh, yeah? There have been a number of recently retired ones who have said that…”we’re defending freedom”…”it is succeeding”…yeah yeah yeah

YOu’d think they’d be more afraid of their portfolios drying up than afraid of the turbans.

McCain takes a couple of gratuitous swats at Sen. Clinton…

I hope somebody asks the Huckster about amending the constitution to reflect the bible.

McCain – “On the subject of Iraq, I am clearly out of my mind and dangerously delusional.”

McCain: Soldiers say “Let us win”

McCain still running on the BS express.

Mitt saying

this is how is got cannon fodder for iraq

Mitt: We can’t turn Irak over to al Qaida

Romneybot piles on Sen. Clinton…

Willard making an impressive bid to out-crazy McCain on the Iraq subject…

Oh! Mitt thinks dems are audacious and arrogant! Fighting words! Applause!

Don’t they all seem in a funk? No energy?
Guess it must be the economy. And the fact that none of them can raise any money.

Rumsfeld is the scapegoat tonight.

I’m impressed they are all running against Clinton already…

Rudy: I like war.

un frickin believable

mccain sez we’ll have peace and success in the middle east because of iraq invasion

McCain says Irak war was a good idea…but “it was not worth the failures”…dancing on the head of a pin.

Oooh, now Ghouli throws a jab at Sen. Clinton

Was there an agreement among the candidates to do that?

Ron Paul making sense on Iraq

Ron Paul’s jacket is three sizes too big for him.

Ron Paul…war not worth it.

OMG: Paul sounds crazy speaking the truth.

Huck I don’t read newspapers, says we owe Bush our thanks for lying to us 935 times.

They realize that they are going to have to talk about the economy. But they are going to throw some bombs about the gates of hell and all that.

Huckabee…we do not owe him scorn, we owe him thanks. After all preventing an attack is easy – just attack someone who has never attacked you and who you have been ass kicking for over a decade.

Hucksterbee defending Boosh again…does he think that will sell in Florida?

Huckabee, “Thank you Mr. Bush from saving us from WMD… just cuz we didn’t find ‘em doesn’t mean they weren’t there!”

Oh, jeez, I thought Huck said ‘when the pres LIED us into war” but I think he said “LED”

Ha -

huckster sez the wmd’s could have been there!

“just because you don’t every easter egg doesn’t mean they aren’t there!”

Mitt:

Al Quida becoming a Super Power..
-Willard Mitt

You know, these people are still under the delusion that the war was started in order to be won. The war was started to make money and grab oil. What about that, repubs?

Romneybot says Al Qaeda “is becoming a superpower”

Oh, come on!

They all just sound so irrelevant and full of shit.

Huck – preemptive war? – no problem. Shouldn’t be cause for criticism either, by golly.

Keep Mitt away from the camels.

Hey now! Brian Williams just admonished us to hold the applause.

That’s for sure

This really is rather pitiful. I’m sitting here trying to put myself in the shoes of someone who really wants to vote for a Republican. It’s a sorry group. The most rabid Republican where I work has confided in me that he’s actually not going to be able to bring himself to vote for any of them. He’s voting Democratic this year for the first time in his life, and can’t quite believe it’s happening to him.

OK. I promise not to applaud.

Break time – takeaway message so far – Washington is all fucked up, but the Repubs haven’t done anything wrong. Just gotta keep on keepin’ on – but smarter.

But is it OK if I hoot and catcall?

Heh. This may prove amusing…

Candidates get to ask each other questions now. Could be interesting.

Great to hear the analysis that “Iraq is the infrastructure of the fight against AQ, and that to pull out is to invite AQ to take over the US and the rest of the world” from their nominee whoever it will be besides Paul.

The usual retreaded arguments are on that stage, with no one defining “victory”, open ended time lines, no specifics on the political failure, and absolutely no reference to to the Iraqi or US casualties that haven’t changed significantly, or the tremendous refugee problem that the US has done next to nothing about.

There is also conveniently no reference to the horrendous infrastructural progress in Iraq.

No definition as to the political inertia, and no solutions to change it.

There was also no referencce to the absurdly bizarre new “law” that is supposed to get jobs for Sunnis that actually displaces more of them–the same people we’re paying millions not to strike our troups.

And no reference to the cat and mouse game the Mahdi army continues to play.

Again, there is no plan to get out, and until a draft throws a cold shower on whoever is in the White House the status quo of killing, displacement, and ruined lives will continue as America ho hums and checks for the status of Britney’s custody, and Jamie Lynn’s child-rearing capabilities.

Candidates’s question time!

The applause was for anti-war statements. There may be Ron Paultards in the audience but then again there may be some sane republicans also.

that was a short break – reminds me that Fred’s out of the picture – that wasn’t even time for a decent nap…

yes… and laugh derisively too…

Mitt asking Rudi about China & trade.

Williams: We’ll be taking a break to all the debaters a few moments to scape the shit off of their heels.

-G

mittens sez china will need oil

how long before someone mentions anwr?

Romneybot wants to protect American jobs.

Like he did when he was a slash-and-burn corporate raider.

don’t fergit yer raspberries and bronx cheers!

I think BW was giving the code to war whoop everytime Hillary’s name is mentioned.

Well I guess all their prostates work better than his… Shorter breaks are feasible now.

some was for bashing Hil. The loud whoops were for Paul.

Giuliani’s doing the Safety Dance for God’s sake.

-G

Rudi: need to increase the size of our military, never made up for the damage Clinton did.

9ui11iani – “it’s all Bill Clinton’s fault!”

Hi everybody-

Paul sounds crazy speaking the truth.

I believe this says more about the larger culture and the power of full-spectrum propaganda than many thousands of other words on the subject. Beautifully perceived.

Breaking news!!

Rudee makes a brilliant observation:

It’s all Clinton’s fault (bill in this case)

rudy sez military’s gone to hell cause of bill clinton

no mention of 5 years in iraq

McCain asking Hucklebee about the Fair Tax.

How do you answer the criticism that a flat-out sales tax won’t cause problems for low-income Americans? (Like he cares)

The Huckster hates the IRS

What did they do, audit him?

mccain looks like he wants to whoop huckster’s arse

Hukster, “Free money for EVERYONE!”

So Mr. 9lliuliani, Bill Clinton supposedly destroyed the US military and you supported sending this devasted military into war before they were rebuilt?

That sounds criminal to me.

-G

Huck sez the poor will be a-okay

No more underground economy — prostitutes and drugdealers will pay and collect taxes (he refers to these as non-GOPs)

What are they shopping around for VP’s?

So if Hillary gets the Demorcratic nomination, who will be the female vice-presidential running mate on the GOP ticket or if Obama get’s it, is Condoleezza Rice the GOP vice?

Well thankee RonD. (blushing) Come sit next to me during this bubble fest. I believe it is also how we the people must sound to the BubblePeople, crazy. Orrin Hatch calling us “fringe” for pete’s sake.

Huckster speaking tax doublespeak

Timmeh says that 93% of Americans are paying 15% tax – or less.

I wanna move where Timmeh lives.

I nominate Mrs. Greenspan

Ron Paul asking McCain his question… McCain grimaces, as if he’s got to take a dump.

McCain wants sunshine. And to rely on his SecTreasury.

I don’t think he understands Ron Paul’s question.

McCain is out of control.

He has a process of leadership that involves his friends, and stuff.

McCain answers Paul – “I know a lot of other old white guys – they’ll handle it for me.”

Utter bullshit. i lose well over 25% of my measley paychecks. Punkinhaid=twerp. Then again, we know that, don’t we? *grin*

McCain drifting off into zombieland trying to sound like he understands economics…he knows lots of folks who do, anyway…

no worry -

he wearing

“Oops I crapped my Pants” undergarment

Huck bringing up gun control bwahahahaha!

While it was being asked he looked like someone hit him over the head with a ball peen hammer. He apparently admits (though he denied it earlier) that he knows jack about economics or economic policy.

Huckster asks Romneybot about the Second Amendment. Rom gives Huck a dirty look.

McCain hasn’t finished reading Greenspins’ book yet. Leave him alone.

-G

The dog lovers are discussing guns now

Timmeh says that 93% of Americans are paying 15% tax – or less.

I wanna move where Timmeh lives.

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What 93% of Americans are only taxed on their massive capital gains for the year?

Huck to Willard: “WTF are you doing trying to get assault rifles off the street? Haven’t you heard of the 2nd Amendment? How am I gonna tax pimps and drug dealers if you take the tools of their trade away?”

YOWZA — I want a .60 caliber machine gun! Mittens says I can have one.

How come Potato(e) Head didn’t call McCain on that.

John you said you didn’t know dick about economics. Yousaid it.

-G

Rudi worries about people not being able to get property insurance.

Clearly playing to the Floridians.

New YouTube: “Leave Johnny Alone!!!”

That was kind of funny how Paul asked McCain about the plunge protection team, but he did not ask it that well.

(sliding in next to dosido)
So Paul tried to torpedo McCain with a question about the Star Chamber! Good Libertarian. We very badly need an intellectual war inside the Republican Party, and Paul might be just the guy to start it.

My sons wanna keep their Glocks, OK?

Romney feels sorry for the poor snowbirds. The folks with two homes are his natural base, apparently.

I wonder if anyone is going to ask Ron Paul a question, or are they going to ignore him?

The Huckster hates the IRS

What did they do, audit him?

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Don’t want them messing with the mega churches profits.

Romneybot to Ghouli: “I can doubletalk faster than you na na nya na na!!!

McCain: Kumbayah for hurricane victims and insurance companies!!!

Bah, gonna watch the Matrix or something. This debate is going limp.

McCain’s gonna give everyone insurance without a huge federal bureaucracy!

You notice they’re not ridiculing Ron Paul this time?

Rudi wants us to be more nuklear, like France.

Oh wait – a question on Global Warming!

Its a miricle. Lets see who has a thought in their head and who is bought out by an energy interest or well schooled in congnative dissonance.

I thought Timmeh was going to tell us Florida’s coastline was threatened by alQaeda, but no!

That was Grampa Fred’s job, and he’s not there.

Yeah. Outsource insurance coverage to Halliburton!!!

WHY ARE THERE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT RACE?

McCain is all pissed because the price of popcorn (and the 95% of the rest of the corn based food) has gone up so he is going to take it out on Iowa.

did anyone ask him a question yet?

McCain’s gonna talk the insurance companies into providing affordable insurance for everyone.

Cue Heart – He’s a magic man!….

McCain: “Joey Short Ride is my BFF!!!”

McCain just insulted Joe Lieberman – he called him a Democrat.

yup, McCain’s gonna pick lieberman for VP…

Joe Lieberman!

(gotta get a drink — brb)

Oh, well. Now I know that McCain is senile or delusional or both. He just call Short Ride a Democrat.

Oh, gag, JoeLie is mentioned. He’s McCains fave dem.

Um, they’re not Democrats? It’s not MLK Day?

Did I just hear Giuliani calling for an Apollo-style program for clean energy?

Darn these flashbacks.

No questions for Dr Paul

So many breaks in this abbreviated debate. Why so short?

“We have more coal than Saudi Arabia has petro-dollars.” says Rudy Giuliani.” Is this debate being sponsored by “Clean Coal For Jesus Association”?

There have been plenty of questions about the race…
ba dum bump.

I don’t know about y’all, but my first commercial was for the payday lenders — a GOP constituent group if I ever heard of one!

“Why so short?”

They cut out all the race questions, and that just didn’t leave much.

umm, because they’re all old – and don’t have enough ideas to fill a full two-hour debate?

Did Timmeh ask any of them what their favorite Black Sabbath song is?

Best Buy! The folks who brought you the Heath Ledger Memorial display…

Timmeh:

“Governor Romney, do you believe that John McCain was the first Black senator from Arizona?”

Romney: “Well, I would have to watch him eat watermelon before I could answer that”

Wow, they have to go 90 minutes standing up!

Ow, Timmeh jabbing at Rudy…

Rudy: the arena is my church.

Rudy in a flop sweat is not a pretty sight.

Rudi sez he’s just like the NYGiants.

He’s gonna come from behind. Hope Judi has her kneepads on.

He’s gonna come from behind. (Said it twice, Judi!)

Rudee tries to ride on the shoulders of the New York Giants to avoid giving a straight answer

Pygmy Part two.. Upstairs

McCain: proud of Roberts and Alito confirmations.

McCain proud of Alito and Roberts, sez his mom’s wrong about the GOP having to hold its nose to nominate him.

He’ll make America safer.

New debate thread.

yay Brian Williams! – breaking out the “What makes you think that you’re a viable candidate” questions.

707!

“bridge to nowhere” #4

goes to john mccain!

I’m impressed they are all running against Clinton already…

Well, they have been known to be wrong before. Why not now too?

John Edwards for President — Leadership for America!

Brian Williams just admonished us to hold the applause.

Sure thing. No prob. Wasn’t really planning to applaud anyway. Heh!

Candidates get to ask each other questions now. Could be interesting.

Mitt: So, how exactly am I supposed to transport a dog?

Huck: Do I look good in this Elvis outfit?

Paul: Is there anybody, anybody at all, listening?

McCain: Am I still winning? I can’t believe it. How’d this happen?