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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225733</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, good thread.  And you’re spot-on.  It’s appalling that these fucking ciphers are running, and that most of them are still defending bush’s wretched war.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, my 2c, I give no one any slack on Hillary.   Just because the republican candidates are willing to try to be bush and the GOP’s Alpine Redoubt, as their shithead-construct collapses around their heads, is not a reason to slide ANY of the democrats for THEIR funking the job of going after these people.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, I insist, Hillary Clinton has funked the job the worst, by a mile. Digby, as you know, has shut down her comments, because the debate about our nominee was getting heated.  That was disappointing.   Some of us were putting up factual links about Clinton’s track record, which has been done on here, also, and the fur has flown some here, too, and I think that’s perfectly appropriate.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We NEED to talk about thing like Clinton’s speech a few weeks ago, where she accused Obama of being “too far to the left”, because years ago, he’d been against the death penalty, and because (she said) he was for “socialized medicine”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These are two bedrock republican talking points and for her to parrot them, as she’s still haring after conservative votes that have never been there for her, and never will be, is only the most recent indication of her lack of political integrity, and of her abundance of political stupidity.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Evidently neither she, nor anyone on her staff, are “savvy” enough to know that progressives can find out about this, nor that we will file it, along with her support for AIPAC, and for Kyle-Lieberman, and for Lieberman, himself, and for bush’s war (until the mid-term polls enlightened her), and talk about it in the debate about which candidate will give us the best chance to take advantage of the republican’s miserable turn at the wheel.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So.  By all means, let’s laugh at the obscene rolling clown act that is the republican nomination contest, but while we’re doing it, we need to remember that ours is still up for grabs, and one of the grabbers thinks that lending herself and the dignity of her office, to FoxNews’ 10th anniversary birthday bash, and taking money from Rupert Murdoch, and supporting legislation to make flagburning a federal crime, is just the thing to do.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because the repubs are awful, does not mean that we should avoid hard and fast discussion of our candidates, nor that we should give them a pass on the things they’ve done in the past that may have contributed to the miserable situation that we’re now in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, good thread.  And you’re spot-on.  It’s appalling that these fucking ciphers are running, and that most of them are still defending bush’s wretched war.   </p>
<p>But, my 2c, I give no one any slack on Hillary.   Just because the republican candidates are willing to try to be bush and the GOP’s Alpine Redoubt, as their shithead-construct collapses around their heads, is not a reason to slide ANY of the democrats for THEIR funking the job of going after these people.   </p>
<p>And, I insist, Hillary Clinton has funked the job the worst, by a mile. Digby, as you know, has shut down her comments, because the debate about our nominee was getting heated.  That was disappointing.   Some of us were putting up factual links about Clinton’s track record, which has been done on here, also, and the fur has flown some here, too, and I think that’s perfectly appropriate.  </p>
<p>We NEED to talk about thing like Clinton’s speech a few weeks ago, where she accused Obama of being “too far to the left”, because years ago, he’d been against the death penalty, and because (she said) he was for “socialized medicine”. </p>
<p>These are two bedrock republican talking points and for her to parrot them, as she’s still haring after conservative votes that have never been there for her, and never will be, is only the most recent indication of her lack of political integrity, and of her abundance of political stupidity.   </p>
<p>Evidently neither she, nor anyone on her staff, are “savvy” enough to know that progressives can find out about this, nor that we will file it, along with her support for AIPAC, and for Kyle-Lieberman, and for Lieberman, himself, and for bush’s war (until the mid-term polls enlightened her), and talk about it in the debate about which candidate will give us the best chance to take advantage of the republican’s miserable turn at the wheel.  </p>
<p>So.  By all means, let’s laugh at the obscene rolling clown act that is the republican nomination contest, but while we’re doing it, we need to remember that ours is still up for grabs, and one of the grabbers thinks that lending herself and the dignity of her office, to FoxNews’ 10th anniversary birthday bash, and taking money from Rupert Murdoch, and supporting legislation to make flagburning a federal crime, is just the thing to do.  </p>
<p>Because the repubs are awful, does not mean that we should avoid hard and fast discussion of our candidates, nor that we should give them a pass on the things they’ve done in the past that may have contributed to the miserable situation that we’re now in.</p>
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		<title>By: cal1942</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225466</link>
		<dc:creator>cal1942</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FDR didn’t appoint Eleanor Roosevelt.  He passed away before the first UN session.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harry Truman appointed her a UN delegate to our first mission to the UIN in 1945.  She remained a delegate to the UN until 1952.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDR didn’t appoint Eleanor Roosevelt.  He passed away before the first UN session.</p>
<p>Harry Truman appointed her a UN delegate to our first mission to the UIN in 1945.  She remained a delegate to the UN until 1952.</p>
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		<title>By: cal1942</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225451</link>
		<dc:creator>cal1942</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No. I think it’s the handbag.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I think it’s the handbag.</p>
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		<title>By: cal1942</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225449</link>
		<dc:creator>cal1942</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They got nuthin, but, its no sure thing in the general election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is going to be a lot tougher than everyone seems to think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got nuthin, but, its no sure thing in the general election.</p>
<p>This is going to be a lot tougher than everyone seems to think.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225366</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope they get into Rudy’s $400 hair cut.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haircut? I thought with him it was the $400 dress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hope they get into Rudy’s $400 hair cut.</p>
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<p>Haircut? I thought with him it was the $400 dress.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225352</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Truly awful debate. Truly.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I heard/read the last Dem debate in SC was the most watched primary debate of all time. At least they were entertaining and showed some intelligence. The Repubs are just plain embarassing. Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Truly awful debate. Truly.
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<p>I heard/read the last Dem debate in SC was the most watched primary debate of all time. At least they were entertaining and showed some intelligence. The Repubs are just plain embarassing. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225334</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do you guys want Mitt?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which Repub candidate do you think will give us the most laughs in the general election? Remember, Fred’08 is out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do you guys want Mitt?</p>
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<p>Which Repub candidate do you think will give us the most laughs in the general election? Remember, Fred’08 is out.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225319</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:TeddySanFran@8:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TeddySanFran@8:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“McCain going all AIPAC.  Wonder why?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good question; did they give him as much money as they gave Hillary?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:TeddySanFran@8:" rel="nofollow">TeddySanFran@8:</a></p>
<p>“McCain going all AIPAC.  Wonder why?”</p>
<p>Good question; did they give him as much money as they gave Hillary?</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225288</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chris Matthews has Clenis envy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I suspect that he doesn’t like Hillary because she sits down to pee.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Chris Matthews has Clenis envy.</p>
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<p>And I suspect that he doesn’t like Hillary because she sits down to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/florida-pygmy-debate-thread-2/#comment-1225286</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tweety said Huck made a “cloying” point about WMDs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t “cloying” means what he think it means.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t even begin to infer what he means by this. Unless he means a non sequitor?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tweety said Huck made a “cloying” point about WMDs.</p>
<p>I don’t “cloying” means what he think it means.</p>
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<p>I can’t even begin to infer what he means by this. Unless he means a non sequitor?</p>
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