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Motion to table the Judiciary Committee version of the FISA bill successful. 60-34, with just enough Democrats doing their usual rotation to kill it. Congratulations to Harry Reid on successfully manipulating Senate procedure to tank the bill that would not have included retroactive telecom immunity, which he purports to oppose. Unconvincingily, as it were.
JELLO JAY: Offering up Rockefeller/Bond Amendment. Glenn Greenwald says that these are the official White House approved changes to the original Intel version. I guess there were things about the original bill that "Dick Cheney no likey," according to Glenn. This makes it all better. Or something.
BOND: "I knew just enough about the FISA law to be thoroughly confused about how it would work." That's a quote.
This bill will probably pass. We're doomed.
FEINGOLD: Proposes Feingold/Dodd Amendment, which requires that if the FISA court issues an opinion that includes a significant legal interpretation of the FISA law, the government must provide its pleadings to congress. Written because the administration believes it can withhold FISA court interpretations from congress.
BOND: Because Feingold/Dodd would require more paperwork, it deserves to be voted down. Yes, that's what he is saying. Oh, and the terrorists will win.
Stupid...or craven? The eternal dilemma.
KYL: Would that include the ability to redact?
FEINGOLD: Like I just said, the amendment would include the ability to redact.
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Wahoo!
362 days of W left, God willing and they don’t gin up some “national emergency.”
wtf is jello jay talking about my ears glazed over,i know its a first
more chance to get confused by the US senate!
EPU’d Rockefeller says he came to his amendment after consulting with the Justice Dept and Intelligence sources. I feel so much better.
is this jello jays 15 minutes of fame?
Attorney General is the one who says when person targeted for surveillance. Is this what he said just now?
Reid needs to GO! he’s hearing from me, i may call daily, what a backstabber! and a liar.
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Aaaaahhhhh! Leg room…
Hiya Jane, have I said thank you today?
Thank you!
*peeeeelz of gigggggglez* sadly!
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Rockefeller - Will not limit scope of any current intelligence surveillance practices.
and wtf about Pat Robertsons Bussiness parner Charles Taylor?
“official White House approved changes”
Well I’ll be damned that makes it soooooo much better…..
Geesh…..
partner
Good gawd…Jay Rocky Feller is making my teeth hurt.
Rockefeller - Will not involve Fisa court in overseeing methods of surveillance - but current Executive order standards.
Bond and Blunt are BFF’s you know.
Kit looks like he just consulted his HIP FLASK…
Yes and all the blood diamonds in Sierra Leone and Kongo he has been trading in?
why don’t these bubbleheads understand that criminals are running our country? Rule of men, not laws now. Are we going to lay off our Congress soon?
Bond admits he doesnt understand the complexity of FISA.
Jesus Christ! How many times do I have to see Kit Bond’s ugly mug today?
Sounds as if kit’s batteries are running low. stuttering. blah blah.
MO’s finest? those poor people.
Did Whitehouse just stab us all on the back? It appears they keep trotting out his name to prove how bipartisan this is.
Bond: It is just too complicated to amend and change the Fisa law. Simple little statuatory provision only. (this guy is an idiot)
Bond, I think you mean deception not interception dude…..
With 94 senators voting, it would have taken 48 voting to table, in order to table it. It got many more votes (to table) than it needed. The vote was a blow-out, not even close.
Thank you Congress for your actions today!!
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More and Better in 08!
The intelligence community isn’t going to be tapping my phone? Is he snorting Darth’s Pixie Dust?
Hiya Jane:
Did you get my email this morning? Hope this meets you well…
I hope they are just invoking his name in vain…I like Whitehouse.
russ gets the floor in a few. wonder what he can do?
so ya think they are tap tap,tapping ole Pat?
http://atheism.about.com/libra.....taylor.htm
hes a terra ist
Bullshit Kit! Darth, your dark lork, wants all of the information that we share.
Just put us out of our misery, please.
interception, deception, conception… “impossible to keep up with”
well now. that explains it. Kitty? R E T I R E!
Does anyone have a link to the actual vote by senator? I want to see who the 60 were that killed it!!
Hey Kit, if this was all so freakin’ obvious and important to you all, why didn’t you put it in *in committee*???
Bond: Intelligence community will not try to tap someones phone unless they have evidence phone is in terrorist hands […like quakers, tree huggers, opposing candidates, college professors, FDL bloggers, you know really BAD people]. Why, because they have more communications that they can keep up with. Attorney General if it is an American citizen will have to go to “fisk” depending on how collection is going to occur, if agency of foreign power.
They have more tapped conversations than they can deal with because of the massive illegal sweep here in the US.
Kit: “Expansion of protection” WTF?
feingold dodd amendment up now
Is it possible Clinton can make it back? She only had the one event today. Obama has other events schedule for 4pm and after, but Clinton has nothing after the 2pm gig.
Feingold: Amendment co-sponsored by Dodd.
Harry Reid or Hairy Asshole? I write, you decide.
Has he been getting spit-or-swallow lessons from Joe Lieberman on fellating telcomm lobbyists?
Feingold up now.
Russ they are KROOKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
OOOoooohhh! Feingold up!
What corps and lobbyists contributed to his campaign? That’d be the first thing I would look at if he wasn’t voting like a progressive.
Feingold, thank gawd your here… was tired to listening to the confused blahing of Bond…..
folks tried to keep track, on previous threads…
gotta keep track of Feingold just now, or I’d look. Check the II and III threads of this series…
Harry Reid’s financial data start there.
We’re doomed.
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They don’t care, there is nothing we can do about it as the time to act was 20 some odd years ago. I know lets vote in a “moderate” in 2008.
Look here.
Schumer’s performance makes me ask, to what extent is AIP*C backing this FISA fraud?
What makes you think she wants to be there?
Feingold’s amendments: Fisa needs to tell congress what it is doing now, and in past 5 years. (THis doesn’t cut it for me).
RUSS you ROCK
Why don’t we all insert the word “terra” every time we talk on the phone. What mayhem that would cause. Now they would have to go back and make a list of words citizens were not allowed to use on the phone or they will create confusion and make things complicated.
terra = confusion and complicated ;)
did he vote aye….thought i heard that
Wow. That’s such a suck-cinct way of putting it. Bravo.
Courage. What makes a King out of a slave? Courage.
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage.
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist or the dusky dusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage.
What makes the Sphinx the 7th Wonder? Courage.
What makes the dawn come up like THUNDER?! Courage.
What makes the Hottentot so hot?
What puts the ”ape” in ape-ricot?
Whatta they got that I ain’t got?
Completely. 1) They support a totalitarian state, torture etc. as a means of addressing potential opponents of the state; 2) they consider it payback to Bush for his war press in the M.E.
Happy Corporate Sovereignity Day!
(appropriately midway between
ChristmasShop4Day andPresidents’Executive Day.so - go shopping!)
why is Angelina Jolie,sitting behind Russ?
Jane
What do you mean we’re doomed? Did you really think we’d get a bill without retroactive immunity? Is that what dooms us-retroactive immunity?
If we are doomed it is because we cannot think of alternatives to Democrats and Republicans
Just a question. I found it odd that she only had the one campaign appearance scheduled for today and tha it ended early. I was curious if others had any thought on the matter.
Link to
60-34 vote … the link isn’t “alive” yet, but it will be in due course.
Whitehouse’s second highest contributor was Bain Capital…..
With 94 senators voting, it would have taken 48 voting to table, in order to table it. It got many more votes (to table) than it needed. The vote was a blow-out, not even close.
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They were shooting for the 60 vote mark perhaps.
Kit acts like HE IS IN CHARGE
wtf? omg
bond even LOOKS like a skid row wino from way back.
HE’S way out of bounds!
STFU
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Kirk, you mean to make us cry, right? I think
president’sday is more accurately the Chimperial machtergreifung day or something like that.Dodd on Feingold-Dodd amendment- is way out of bounds puts restraints on law agencies.
Sheldon went over to the dark side on FISA back in November or December.
sit down kit…you aint in charge anymore,or are you
Fuck!
OT, but related… I am sooooooo over this “change” meme the candidates/MSM. I want to hear our presidential candidates say the word, “restoration”, and tell us how they are going to do it. NOW!
Nah, she knows exactly what she’s doing.
Bain capital is Romney -WTF
Frequent and liberal sprinkling of “terra” and “Insha’Allah” in your telephone conversations would probably get you noticed….
It’s always nice to make a few new friends….
Ok, I had to move to a different room. Did they vote on the bipartisan thing? And I’m on the new amendment now?
No fucking way… Mitt contributes to Sheldon Whitehouse? ZOMG! I thought irony was dead with a stake thru it’s heart after the 2000 Presidential election.
Lobbyists.
Each time Bond gets up to speak, he’s a little more inebriated than the last time. His flask ought to be close to empty about now.
Anyone have any good maudlin tunes appropriate for the occasion, accessible by youtube?
No voting yet on either amendment. bloviating.
Bond’s comeback to Feingold: “Too much paperwork!!”
Dip. Shit.
do you mean Bond instead of Dodd???
what is he mumbling and stumbling on about? this is nuts
who said there’s no quorum?
what about retroactive imunity…somebody help me here
Some noive
Campaign websites for Clinton, Obama, write them and tell them to come back and do their job as a Dem Senator’s and vote if they want our vote in the fall.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/
http://my.barackobama.com/page.....h-national
I want leadership, for a change.
this is your government in action
http://www.opensecrets.org/pol.....cycle=2008
Whitehouse’s second highest contributor was Bain Capital…..
Well, isn’t that just the proverbial t**d in the punchbowl?
More of that dreary music
you’re joking. Right?
anyone remember why Whitehouse darksided? sigh. I hate losing my heroes. He was great at the EPA thing.
Hey I want some of that retroactive immunity for everything I may have uttered right here on the lake….
Who wants to get on the band wagon?….
More Bach!
If Clinton showed up to stand up with Dodd I get the feeling they would all laugh and ask if was April 1st. Nobody is going to show, they just roate the blame and we can’t follow 10% of what they do (that is public, god knows what silly shite is behind closed doors).
atrios:
I’m more in this mood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g
that’s the point. it’s utterly incomprehensible to me, anyway. like he’s reading refrigerator magnets at random…
OOOooooooH Brandenburg #6! Those treble instruments are all VIOLAS folks, not one violin in the bunch. YEE HAW!
I get a kick out of the “technology changed — these communications used to be carried via satellite.” What that means is that the government has been grabbing communications of US persons whose calls happened to hit a satellite. That MOST international communications, in the past, were obtainable without a warrant.
If you thought your call was on a cable under the Atlantic, or for whatever reason thought you had a right to privacy in an international call, well, think again!
The government is arguing that Americans never had privacy in international calls, and that they shouldn’t expect it now.
Shhhh! (Adie’s listening.)
i say open ALL the prison gates,and Mexicanos have retroactive immunity too…its the repuke way
3 solo viola parts playing simultaneously. what’s not to love?
DANCE-DAMMIT
Game over.
Harry Reid’s financial data start there.
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Example
Business
$2,053,010
(74.4%)
Labor
$386,500
(14.0%)
Ideological/Single Issue
$320,225
(11.6%)
mui, I’m just putting the tears into words…. :(
Reid. Must. Go.
That’s the spirit. Let’s just clear the slate for everyone. How bout we all come clean, any weed smoking tax evading resume fudging wife cheating murders of passion, let’s just fess up, and move on.
so do a dreary dance, if u must. heathen. oh, wait. i resemble that remark.
as a violist, I admire your good taste :-)
Obama (poor honey) still desperately trying to get back to D.C.?
ok Adie, you’ve officially been at the keyboard too long.
Breathe…
Vagabond Ways.
Since we’re on the subject, can anybody explain why Leahy always seems to be slurring his words in the manner that a drunk would? Is it some sort of speech impediment or is it just me. Don’t get me wrong, he speaks very rationally like a perfect lucid person, so I don’t mean to imply drinking, just that he has a strange speech pattern, IMO.
We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
‘Cause your friends don’t dance and if they don’t dance
Well they’re no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to, a place that they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance
The instant they ride roughshod over Dodd’s filibuster on the unacceptable FISA bill is the instant they turn me 100% against the Dems come November 2008. I will absolutely vote AGAINST the Democrats up and down the ballot. I will NOT reward this shit with money or votes EVER AGAIN.
“We’ll be right back after a word *with* our sponsors.”
This is about what I’m thinkin’.
Babe you’re what you’re doing
What is his medical history? Many, many reasons why a person might speak that way.
Safety Dance
why is it over? what did i miss?
Is this Democratic Congress not as big a disaster as the 1600 Crew? No, really. It might be apostasy to say that, but shit folks, we’re not seeing any progressivism here. The two “senator candidates” are so concerned with scoring kindergarten playground points off each other that neither is willing to actually display anyhing actually resembling “leadership”.
I’m sick of these little wussie Bush-dog democrats who get pearl-clutching vapors at the idea that they might be talked bad about by Tony Fratto and Dana Perrino. Or that they might not get invited over for $1,000 Vienna Sausages at Timmeh and Maureen’s place on Valentines day.
[violent retching sounds]
Yeah, Leahy’s got something going on with his speech. Stumbles over his tongue, sounds like. Bit of a shame, cuz I generally love what comes out of his mouth.
Brandenburg #5. And not nearly enuf of it.
No fucking way… Mitt contributes to Sheldon Whitehouse? ZOMG! I thought irony was dead with a stake thru it’s heart after the 2000 Presidential election.
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