Comments on: FISA Debate In Senate, Part II http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:30:36 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1223243 msmolly Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:36:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1223243 <blockquote> <p>See comment #84 for Edwards’ input. </p></blockquote> <p>EPU’d. This is Edwards’s input. Why isn’t he in Washington? A statement isn’t good enough! (And I am an Edwards supporter!)</p>

See comment #84 for Edwards’ input.

EPU’d. This is Edwards’s input. Why isn’t he in Washington? A statement isn’t good enough! (And I am an Edwards supporter!)

]]> By: klynn http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1223065 klynn Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:10:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1223065 <p>Christy,</p> <p>I really think the push for the immunity is a veil for the push for the “inherent Presidential authority” language used in the updates on FISA…</p> <p>This is a great read. Link to this sight and click mid screen on <em>January 9,2006 A Response To The Justice Department From Law Professors ANd Former Government Officials</em></p> <p><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/</a></p> <p>Wish I could do a nicer job for the link.</p> <p>It’s worth the read for anyone. It lays out the 4th Amend. issues and addresses the issues of Unitary Executive (inherent Presidential Authority)language and “balance of Powers” language.</p> <p>Enjoy!</p> Christy,

I really think the push for the immunity is a veil for the push for the “inherent Presidential authority” language used in the updates on FISA…

This is a great read. Link to this sight and click mid screen on January 9,2006 A Response To The Justice Department From Law Professors ANd Former Government Officials

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/

Wish I could do a nicer job for the link.

It’s worth the read for anyone. It lays out the 4th Amend. issues and addresses the issues of Unitary Executive (inherent Presidential Authority)language and “balance of Powers” language.

Enjoy!

]]> By: cboldt http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222891 cboldt Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:22:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222891 <p>Just look at the Senate’s legislative calendar. S.2248 has been pending since December. Senator Dodd himself expounded the UC request that resulted in adoption of the motion to proceed to S.2248. <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r110:FLD001:S15791" rel="nofollow">5 . ORDERS FOR TUESDAY …</a></p> <blockquote><p>I ask unanimous consent that … that the motion to proceed to S. 2248 be adopted once this consent is granted and that all time postcloture be considered yielded back.</p></blockquote> Just look at the Senate’s legislative calendar. S.2248 has been pending since December. Senator Dodd himself expounded the UC request that resulted in adoption of the motion to proceed to S.2248. 5 . ORDERS FOR TUESDAY …

I ask unanimous consent that … that the motion to proceed to S. 2248 be adopted once this consent is granted and that all time postcloture be considered yielded back.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222864 selise Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:14:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222864 <p>that is my memory of events, but when i was questioned on it last night, i couldn’t find the language. so i backed off on the assertion until i can confirm with a link.</p> that is my memory of events, but when i was questioned on it last night, i couldn’t find the language. so i backed off on the assertion until i can confirm with a link.

]]> By: cboldt http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222861 cboldt Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:12:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222861 <p>IOW, the motion to proceed was adopted. The pending cloture motion dies with the adoption (or rejection) of the underlying issue, if the cloture motion isn’t dispensed with otherwise.</p> IOW, the motion to proceed was adopted. The pending cloture motion dies with the adoption (or rejection) of the underlying issue, if the cloture motion isn’t dispensed with otherwise.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222860 selise Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:12:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222860 <p>great letter! and thanks for helping me get it working - and major thanks to newtonusr, who figured out that i had to upload the folder as a zip file.</p> great letter! and thanks for helping me get it working – and major thanks to newtonusr, who figured out that i had to upload the folder as a zip file.

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222858 Hugh Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:12:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222858 <p>Thanks, great letter</p> Thanks, great letter

]]> By: tw3k http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222857 tw3k Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:12:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222857 <p>still good for slackers like me who don’t pay full attention!</p> still good for slackers like me who don’t pay full attention!

]]> By: cboldt http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222852 cboldt Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222852 <p>Or to be more precise, the cloture motion you are thinking of was on a motion to proceed to the consideration of S.2248. Dodd lifted his objection to the motion to proceed, in December — after Reid said the bill would be set aside until January. At that time, back in December, S.2248 was made the pending business of the Senate. It’s maintained that “pending” status through the transit from first to second session of the 110th Congress, adjournment sine die did not kill “pending” status.</p> Or to be more precise, the cloture motion you are thinking of was on a motion to proceed to the consideration of S.2248. Dodd lifted his objection to the motion to proceed, in December — after Reid said the bill would be set aside until January. At that time, back in December, S.2248 was made the pending business of the Senate. It’s maintained that “pending” status through the transit from first to second session of the 110th Congress, adjournment sine die did not kill “pending” status.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222851 selise Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/24/fisa-debate-in-senate-part-ii/#comment-1222851 <p>i’m referring to the cloture vote on the motion to proceed, dec. 17.</p> i’m referring to the cloture vote on the motion to proceed, dec. 17.

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