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	<title>Comments on: Getcha Popcorn: Wingnuts Eat Their Own Over McCain</title>
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		<title>By: kemo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220781</link>
		<dc:creator>kemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Medved is a joke.  He breezily passes off the 6 major “lies” that are honest debate points for the gop.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He cares not about these conservative issues, because Medved is a neocon, and only cares that Johnny dutifully went to the AEI and got a pre-release copy of Fred Kagan’s surge doctrine and rode that issue for all it’s worth.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McCain gets the blessing of the neocon thinktanks, and that’s good enough for Medved, even though 70% of the country is against the Iraq war surge.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medved is a joke.  He breezily passes off the 6 major “lies” that are honest debate points for the gop.  </p>
<p>He cares not about these conservative issues, because Medved is a neocon, and only cares that Johnny dutifully went to the AEI and got a pre-release copy of Fred Kagan’s surge doctrine and rode that issue for all it’s worth.  </p>
<p>McCain gets the blessing of the neocon thinktanks, and that’s good enough for Medved, even though 70% of the country is against the Iraq war surge.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220758</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No offense intended, I’ll find other ways to describe this as it unfolds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense intended, I’ll find other ways to describe this as it unfolds.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good links.&lt;br /&gt;
Not thrilled with the repeated use of “rape” in this thread, but good links.&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe sundering…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good links.<br />
Not thrilled with the repeated use of “rape” in this thread, but good links.<br />
Maybe sundering…</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220707</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your Democratic Senators are in action right now, giving Bush and the Telcos whatever they want.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amendments to S. 2248 by Democratic Telco/Bush Shills Cardin, Feinstein, and Nelson:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cardin.senate.gov/issues/record.cfm?id=289415&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;S. 2248, FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE ACT AMENDMENTS by Feinstein, Cardin, and Nelson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feinstein’s Exclusivity Amendment effectively gives immunity to the Telco/Comcos in a completely senseless way, reasoning they had no way to know their wiretapping was illegal.  This is shameful and a cascade of false statements on its face.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;C-Span should be playing Britten’s opera,&lt;em&gt; The Rape of Lucretia.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s what gets the attention of your Democratic Senators and gets the action they want.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientlbs.asp?txtname=Verizon+Communications&amp;year=2006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VerizonClient Profile: Lobbyists Hired, 2006&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientlbs.asp?txtname=AT%26T+Inc&amp;year=2006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ATT Client Profile Lobbyists Hired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Democratic Senators are in action right now, giving Bush and the Telcos whatever they want.</p>
<p>Amendments to S. 2248 by Democratic Telco/Bush Shills Cardin, Feinstein, and Nelson:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://cardin.senate.gov/issues/record.cfm?id=289415&amp;" rel="nofollow">S. 2248, FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE ACT AMENDMENTS by Feinstein, Cardin, and Nelson</a></strong></p>
<p>Feinstein’s Exclusivity Amendment effectively gives immunity to the Telco/Comcos in a completely senseless way, reasoning they had no way to know their wiretapping was illegal.  This is shameful and a cascade of false statements on its face.</p>
<p>C-Span should be playing Britten’s opera,<em> The Rape of Lucretia.</em></p>
<p>Here’s what gets the attention of your Democratic Senators and gets the action they want.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientlbs.asp?txtname=Verizon+Communications&amp;year=2006" rel="nofollow">VerizonClient Profile: Lobbyists Hired, 2006</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientlbs.asp?txtname=AT%26T+Inc&amp;year=2006" rel="nofollow">ATT Client Profile Lobbyists Hired</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: DavidO</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It is apretty standard procedure for an individual straight out of college with a history major and further philosophy study to get a #125,000 job as a finacial advisor.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s right. That guy on tee vee who suggested that college profs make&lt;br /&gt;
125k probably thought he was allowing for the fact that profs are low paid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is apretty standard procedure for an individual straight out of college with a history major and further philosophy study to get a #125,000 job as a finacial advisor.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, that’s right. That guy on tee vee who suggested that college profs make<br />
125k probably thought he was allowing for the fact that profs are low paid.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220680</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Wiretapping Rape of America is underway on the floor of the Senate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is great.  Diane Feinstein, who has no legal training, is proposing immunity if the companies had good faith reason to believe they were breaking no laws.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This of course, completely ignores the fact that these companies not only had general counsel and legal staffs who had spent their careers litigating and studying telecom law, but the long list of lobbying megalaw firms for the telecoms had the same experience as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feinstein in praising the FISA Court, has conveniently neglected the huge fact that the FISA court five wire tapping warrants and granted 18761. &lt;strong&gt;This is since 1978 or in nearly 30 years, five wiretapping warrants have been turned down.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FISA’s oversight of wiretapping has been completely toothless and ineffective, but Feinstein neglects or can’t discern this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wiretapping Rape of America is underway on the floor of the Senate.</p>
<p>This is great.  Diane Feinstein, who has no legal training, is proposing immunity if the companies had good faith reason to believe they were breaking no laws.</p>
<p>This of course, completely ignores the fact that these companies not only had general counsel and legal staffs who had spent their careers litigating and studying telecom law, but the long list of lobbying megalaw firms for the telecoms had the same experience as well.</p>
<p>Feinstein in praising the FISA Court, has conveniently neglected the huge fact that the FISA court five wire tapping warrants and granted 18761. <strong>This is since 1978 or in nearly 30 years, five wiretapping warrants have been turned down.</strong></p>
<p>FISA’s oversight of wiretapping has been completely toothless and ineffective, but Feinstein neglects or can’t discern this.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220668</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t understand why the title of Modo’s article is “Three Against One.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/opinion/23dowd.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two Against One&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chelsea Clinton, who of course got her own job has take a humdinger of a vacation to stand mute on the campaign trail. Chelsea Clinton has no known reasons she cannot speak, and she is pushing 30 years of age.  Chelsea Clinton has not enlisted in the Armed Forces, and has no intention of doing so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton studied philosophy at Oxford University which prepares her mightily for work at a Hedge Fund.  She declared she would major in chemistry and study to become a doctor, but something about Chem 101 changed her mind, although there isn’t a whole lot about Chem 101 (qual or quant) that has a whole lot do do with the clinical practice of medicine–Physical Chem or Organic for that matter. She then switched to a major in History, to “gain experience for her $150,000 job out of school as part of the Capital Hedge Fund.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton, with no significant experience was given a job at a hedge fund, Avenue Capital Group, with a salary of about $150,000 up a bit from her previous $125,000 job at McKinsey.  The founder is a huge contributor to many Democratic campaigns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is apretty standard procedure for an individual straight out of college with a history major and further philosophy study  to get a #125,000 job as a finacial advisor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t understand why the title of Modo’s article is “Three Against One.”</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/opinion/23dowd.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">Two Against One</a></strong></p>
<p>Chelsea Clinton, who of course got her own job has take a humdinger of a vacation to stand mute on the campaign trail. Chelsea Clinton has no known reasons she cannot speak, and she is pushing 30 years of age.  Chelsea Clinton has not enlisted in the Armed Forces, and has no intention of doing so.</p>
<p>Clinton studied philosophy at Oxford University which prepares her mightily for work at a Hedge Fund.  She declared she would major in chemistry and study to become a doctor, but something about Chem 101 changed her mind, although there isn’t a whole lot about Chem 101 (qual or quant) that has a whole lot do do with the clinical practice of medicine–Physical Chem or Organic for that matter. She then switched to a major in History, to “gain experience for her $150,000 job out of school as part of the Capital Hedge Fund.</p>
<p>Clinton, with no significant experience was given a job at a hedge fund, Avenue Capital Group, with a salary of about $150,000 up a bit from her previous $125,000 job at McKinsey.  The founder is a huge contributor to many Democratic campaigns.</p>
<p>It is apretty standard procedure for an individual straight out of college with a history major and further philosophy study  to get a #125,000 job as a finacial advisor.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL. Early on, I started to wonder about the damned list he supposedly kept.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Early on, I started to wonder about the damned list he supposedly kept.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/getcha-popcorn-wingnuts-eat-their-own-over-mccain/#comment-1220595</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I noticed the same thing. At times, however, the bulk of comments seem along that line.  I’ve wondered if I ought to go play in those fields, except I couldn’t stand it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I noticed the same thing. At times, however, the bulk of comments seem along that line.  I’ve wondered if I ought to go play in those fields, except I couldn’t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: puravida</title>
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		<dc:creator>puravida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HE should give the Dem response on Monday!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HE should give the Dem response on Monday!</p>
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