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		<title>By: MeDaVinci</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219484</link>
		<dc:creator>MeDaVinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Yeah, I got Feingold’s email too. I told him to “sh!t in his fist” this time around:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tw3k at #5 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;E-mail from Russ today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With so much focus on this year’s presidential campaign, it is imperative that we remember the importance of supporting strong progressive candidates for Congress and state office in 2008. … We must redouble our efforts this year to build on the majorities in Congress with strong candidates committed to promoting our progressive reform agenda, no matter who occupies the White House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is where my heart is ever more so that the presidency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, really, Russ?? I wrote back — sin $$ — this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Russ Feingold –&lt;br /&gt;
Sure. I’ll renew my membership in Progressive Patriots and send you MORE money …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;… Just as soon as you publicize — LOUDLY and WIDELY — that you were a Corporate Dufus for dissing John Edwards recently.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Truth be told, I have a feeling there is some other kind of Political Cold Cocking going on, what with 2004 Weenie John Kerry AND Loser Gary Hart AND allegedly-sane Pat Leahy of Guerrilla Republic of Vermont all going out of their way to endorse Barack Kumbaya Obama or to diss John Edwards. (Same Difference)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Russ Feingold, alleged progressive patriot, piled on with others listed in the previous paragraph; all to piss on the only presidential candidate who is looking at Class divisions and Economic Justice issues in the US.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, maybe Russ is part of this stealth cold cocking of our crypto-fascist GOP masters and the corporate-owned fake news media. But until I get an explanation, Progressive Patriots Fund can Sh*t In Its Fist on more money from me. I’m giving it to Edwards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanx so much. I look forward to your watered-down, PR Spin Cycle reply.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yeah, I got Feingold’s email too. I told him to “sh!t in his fist” this time around:</strong></p>
<p>tw3k at #5 </p>
<blockquote><p>E-mail from Russ today:</p>
<p>With so much focus on this year’s presidential campaign, it is imperative that we remember the importance of supporting strong progressive candidates for Congress and state office in 2008. … We must redouble our efforts this year to build on the majorities in Congress with strong candidates committed to promoting our progressive reform agenda, no matter who occupies the White House.</p>
<p>This is where my heart is ever more so that the presidency.</p>
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<p>Oh, really, Russ?? I wrote back — sin $$ — this:</p>
<p>Dear Russ Feingold –<br />
Sure. I’ll renew my membership in Progressive Patriots and send you MORE money …</p>
<p>… Just as soon as you publicize — LOUDLY and WIDELY — that you were a Corporate Dufus for dissing John Edwards recently.</p>
<p>Truth be told, I have a feeling there is some other kind of Political Cold Cocking going on, what with 2004 Weenie John Kerry AND Loser Gary Hart AND allegedly-sane Pat Leahy of Guerrilla Republic of Vermont all going out of their way to endorse Barack Kumbaya Obama or to diss John Edwards. (Same Difference)</p>
<p>Russ Feingold, alleged progressive patriot, piled on with others listed in the previous paragraph; all to piss on the only presidential candidate who is looking at Class divisions and Economic Justice issues in the US.</p>
<p>Now, maybe Russ is part of this stealth cold cocking of our crypto-fascist GOP masters and the corporate-owned fake news media. But until I get an explanation, Progressive Patriots Fund can Sh*t In Its Fist on more money from me. I’m giving it to Edwards.</p>
<p>Thanx so much. I look forward to your watered-down, PR Spin Cycle reply.<br />
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		<title>By: broadbrush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219269</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some of them are waking up to reality. We need to forge an effective majority- lets cal it  ” the righteous majority ” and the radical Republicans&lt;br /&gt;
will be hoisted on their own petard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of them are waking up to reality. We need to forge an effective majority- lets cal it  ” the righteous majority ” and the radical Republicans<br />
will be hoisted on their own petard.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219261</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’d also point out that Edwards spent time as a well-paid consultant to the lobbyists and Directors of Fortress Investment Group&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Noted. Irrelevant. He has done what he said he would do in each of his ventures. As long as he does the same now then we’ll get the Progressive agenda and his solutions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He has a long record of doing very very well. I want to see that applied to the presidency.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d also point out that Edwards spent time as a well-paid consultant to the lobbyists and Directors of Fortress Investment Group</p>
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<p>Noted. Irrelevant. He has done what he said he would do in each of his ventures. As long as he does the same now then we’ll get the Progressive agenda and his solutions.</p>
<p>He has a long record of doing very very well. I want to see that applied to the presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219256</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Yes, exactly. Everybody knows they’ve screwed up massively, now is the time to permanently crush their crackpot ideas before “stab in the back” starts up and people forget.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree completely. Why let them off the hook after what they’ve done. It was Republicans who chose to walk away from their moderate positions and become radical and fascist. It was Republicans who chose to use the government to support oil companies and quash research on new energy sources and technologies. It was Republicans who changed the tax system to let more and more of the nation’s wealth go only to the Rich. It was Republicans who tore down unions until the working stiff has very little going for him. It’s been the Republicans who let the health care industry rape America and push a lot of cities and companies to the brink of extinction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have a lot to pay for.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Yes, exactly. Everybody knows they’ve screwed up massively, now is the time to permanently crush their crackpot ideas before “stab in the back” starts up and people forget.
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<p>I agree completely. Why let them off the hook after what they’ve done. It was Republicans who chose to walk away from their moderate positions and become radical and fascist. It was Republicans who chose to use the government to support oil companies and quash research on new energy sources and technologies. It was Republicans who changed the tax system to let more and more of the nation’s wealth go only to the Rich. It was Republicans who tore down unions until the working stiff has very little going for him. It’s been the Republicans who let the health care industry rape America and push a lot of cities and companies to the brink of extinction.</p>
<p>They have a lot to pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: broadbrush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219249</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right on target.Her whole campaign is a lie. Public service has made her a multi,multi millionaire- Bill in todays Wall Street Journal rakes in another 20 million.Check out her campaign documents. The utter hipocracy. Comparing herself to LBJ when she was a Goldwater girl. A Republican supporting Nixon&lt;br /&gt;
in 68 till she got religion with Bill got staff job on Watergate and saw her fortune in Arkansas. Tyson Exec handled her stock portfolio and now she wantsa to act like Mother Theresa.She cares about children and actually has done some good work in their behalf but how about the children that will be maimed by cluster bombs that she voted to use in civilian areas. That must have been a big contributor. She mentions Rezko.How about Johnny Chung and Charlie Tree, and Marc Rich, and her brothers- pardon me. Her brother married Barbara Boxers daughter and if she cares about children why doesn’t she get him to pay his delinquent child support. Some Auntie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on target.Her whole campaign is a lie. Public service has made her a multi,multi millionaire- Bill in todays Wall Street Journal rakes in another 20 million.Check out her campaign documents. The utter hipocracy. Comparing herself to LBJ when she was a Goldwater girl. A Republican supporting Nixon<br />
in 68 till she got religion with Bill got staff job on Watergate and saw her fortune in Arkansas. Tyson Exec handled her stock portfolio and now she wantsa to act like Mother Theresa.She cares about children and actually has done some good work in their behalf but how about the children that will be maimed by cluster bombs that she voted to use in civilian areas. That must have been a big contributor. She mentions Rezko.How about Johnny Chung and Charlie Tree, and Marc Rich, and her brothers- pardon me. Her brother married Barbara Boxers daughter and if she cares about children why doesn’t she get him to pay his delinquent child support. Some Auntie.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219237</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edwards spent the four years working with the people crossing the country. Maybe his view have changed since his Senate days.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or, maybe he’s just built his resume the only way he could and then moved on to the real prize.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, the vote count in NH is just as bogus as NV or Iowa. Somebody’s got a lot of ’splainin to do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Edwards spent the four years working with the people crossing the country. Maybe his view have changed since his Senate days.
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<p>Or, maybe he’s just built his resume the only way he could and then moved on to the real prize.</p>
<p>BTW, the vote count in NH is just as bogus as NV or Iowa. Somebody’s got a lot of ’splainin to do.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219229</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
    Edwards is easily the most progressive candidate in the race…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with that completely, which is why Edwards is also my choice of candidate. The only thing that bothers me is that Feingold said that when Edwards had the opportunity to vote on some progressive programs, he didn’t. Feingold says that Edwards is campaigning on Feingold’s record of votes, but he didn’t vote that way himself. That worries me, but the other two candidates worry me more.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It worried me until I considered what you just said, if they’re all gonna pander and be all over the place, then why don’t I go for the candidate whose campaign positions most reflect what I want and who is most consistent about pushing for that agenda.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards has been much more consistent in this campaign than the other two and recently they’ve gone off the rails, so he really does represent the ‘adult wing of the Democratic Party’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One amusing thing I noted recently was that Edwards doesn’t toot his own horn very much. I’d think that if he were only a phony self-promoting hypocrite, then he would toot a lot more often. It seems he’s much more honest than many believed — the others…not so much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    Edwards is easily the most progressive candidate in the race…
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<p>I agree with that completely, which is why Edwards is also my choice of candidate. The only thing that bothers me is that Feingold said that when Edwards had the opportunity to vote on some progressive programs, he didn’t. Feingold says that Edwards is campaigning on Feingold’s record of votes, but he didn’t vote that way himself. That worries me, but the other two candidates worry me more.
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<p>It worried me until I considered what you just said, if they’re all gonna pander and be all over the place, then why don’t I go for the candidate whose campaign positions most reflect what I want and who is most consistent about pushing for that agenda.</p>
<p>Edwards has been much more consistent in this campaign than the other two and recently they’ve gone off the rails, so he really does represent the ‘adult wing of the Democratic Party’.</p>
<p>One amusing thing I noted recently was that Edwards doesn’t toot his own horn very much. I’d think that if he were only a phony self-promoting hypocrite, then he would toot a lot more often. It seems he’s much more honest than many believed — the others…not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: broadbrush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219224</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I disagree with your analysis although Richardson make sense from Hillary’s&lt;br /&gt;
perspective.It will solidify latino support with foreign policy credentials&lt;br /&gt;
and I think you are correct he was running for VP. Wes Clark is another Hillary possibility as is Evan Bayh. She will never opt for Edwards. She is Ms Corporation also Democrat DLC favorite  and John is an iconoclast.Lieberman would be the kiss of death and while she does AIPAC bidding he is too LIKUD and close to George W. Barack must have someone with National Security and Foreign Policy experience and someone who knows the Washington bureaucracy.Maybe Bill Dailey for Chief of Staff and for VP someone like a George Mitchell, (Gary Hart a little old and tainted  and Barack’s choice must be squeaky clean to exploit all the Abramov and Republican scandals.) Bill Bradley is not out of the question and maybe a Sam Nunn or someone with exception administrative skills and money like a Bloomberg.Richardson is also an option for Obama. I don’t think he would select Edwards because he wants to project compromise but I think he likes him enough to consider it. Al Gore is too busy with greening the world and&lt;br /&gt;
would not consider it, but he is hoping for a deadlocked convention and a draft.Would that ever- Gore-Obama -melt the wicked witch of the East.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your analysis although Richardson make sense from Hillary’s<br />
perspective.It will solidify latino support with foreign policy credentials<br />
and I think you are correct he was running for VP. Wes Clark is another Hillary possibility as is Evan Bayh. She will never opt for Edwards. She is Ms Corporation also Democrat DLC favorite  and John is an iconoclast.Lieberman would be the kiss of death and while she does AIPAC bidding he is too LIKUD and close to George W. Barack must have someone with National Security and Foreign Policy experience and someone who knows the Washington bureaucracy.Maybe Bill Dailey for Chief of Staff and for VP someone like a George Mitchell, (Gary Hart a little old and tainted  and Barack’s choice must be squeaky clean to exploit all the Abramov and Republican scandals.) Bill Bradley is not out of the question and maybe a Sam Nunn or someone with exception administrative skills and money like a Bloomberg.Richardson is also an option for Obama. I don’t think he would select Edwards because he wants to project compromise but I think he likes him enough to consider it. Al Gore is too busy with greening the world and<br />
would not consider it, but he is hoping for a deadlocked convention and a draft.Would that ever- Gore-Obama -melt the wicked witch of the East.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219223</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
    Edwards is easily the most progressive candidate in the race…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that would be less so if he had has to “vote”. I suspect if he had done a second Senate term his voting record would be between his first term and his present positions.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Possibly. A lot would have depended upon which party controlled the Senate and the White House. But still, he would’ve been a senator from NC and that would always entail some DLCish behavior. That’s probably why he left to get free and be himself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    Edwards is easily the most progressive candidate in the race…
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<p>I think that would be less so if he had has to “vote”. I suspect if he had done a second Senate term his voting record would be between his first term and his present positions.
</p>
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<p>Possibly. A lot would have depended upon which party controlled the Senate and the White House. But still, he would’ve been a senator from NC and that would always entail some DLCish behavior. That’s probably why he left to get free and be himself.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/hair-of-the-dog/#comment-1219208</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The way Randi Rhodes said it was that he was not praising Reagan’s policies, but was admiring his political skill.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though I haven’t heard her show for a while, I, like all men who have any sense, love Randi. She’s the greatest. Couldn’t you imagine her debating Ronald Reagan. Ha that would be great.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also agree with her that Obama’s comment in and of itself is harmless.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where I wonder about it is in how Obama (and his supporters) compare him to Lincoln, John Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. and now Reagan. Why this kind of grandiose rhetoric. It borders on delusions of grandeur.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also wonder, after seeing what happened in Iowa if he identifies with Reagan because of how they pander to this and that group and how they use race and perhaps how they cheated to win an election. Lee Atwater was pretty much scum and led Reagan’s dirty tricks (IIRC). Let’s not forget that aspect of Republican campaigning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The way Randi Rhodes said it was that he was not praising Reagan’s policies, but was admiring his political skill.</p>
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<p>Though I haven’t heard her show for a while, I, like all men who have any sense, love Randi. She’s the greatest. Couldn’t you imagine her debating Ronald Reagan. Ha that would be great.</p>
<p>I also agree with her that Obama’s comment in and of itself is harmless.</p>
<p>Where I wonder about it is in how Obama (and his supporters) compare him to Lincoln, John Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. and now Reagan. Why this kind of grandiose rhetoric. It borders on delusions of grandeur.</p>
<p>I also wonder, after seeing what happened in Iowa if he identifies with Reagan because of how they pander to this and that group and how they use race and perhaps how they cheated to win an election. Lee Atwater was pretty much scum and led Reagan’s dirty tricks (IIRC). Let’s not forget that aspect of Republican campaigning.</p>
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