Comments on: Department of Bogosity http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:13:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: karnak12 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1220109 karnak12 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:10:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1220109 <p>This thread is way EPU’d, but I’m going to throw my $.02 in anyway.</p> <p>I work for a company that makes equipment that will detect MRSA. That equipment is sold all over the world. Obviously large institutions are interested in this because they have the largest turnover of people in and out of their doors everyday. There is no one group that distributes this or is identified as a responsible vector for this bug. It. Is. Universal.</p> <p>The equipment we make will detect this bug in about an hour. This is critical for a trauma care unit. BTW, this is not a commercial. Sorry if it sounds like that, but this is a very serious disease. </p> <p>But allow me to illustrate how wide spread MRSA is. Briefly, our CEO, who is very conversant with this disease, contracted MRSA from his health club. You know - grabbing exercise machines that someone else has rubbed their body parts(?) on. Fortunately, when it manifested itself, he quickly recognized what it was, and was able to get it treated within days. The proper preventative measure for this is as described several times above - i.e. wash your hands, and do it often.</p> This thread is way EPU’d, but I’m going to throw my $.02 in anyway.

I work for a company that makes equipment that will detect MRSA. That equipment is sold all over the world. Obviously large institutions are interested in this because they have the largest turnover of people in and out of their doors everyday. There is no one group that distributes this or is identified as a responsible vector for this bug. It. Is. Universal.

The equipment we make will detect this bug in about an hour. This is critical for a trauma care unit. BTW, this is not a commercial. Sorry if it sounds like that, but this is a very serious disease.

But allow me to illustrate how wide spread MRSA is. Briefly, our CEO, who is very conversant with this disease, contracted MRSA from his health club. You know – grabbing exercise machines that someone else has rubbed their body parts(?) on. Fortunately, when it manifested itself, he quickly recognized what it was, and was able to get it treated within days. The proper preventative measure for this is as described several times above – i.e. wash your hands, and do it often.

]]> By: wesgpc http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219793 wesgpc Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:31:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219793 <p>I decided to look again, since it bugs me I can’t find that article now. This one used different methods, but constructs a family tree and discusses different routes the bug might have taken through people and animals.</p> <p>Appl Environ Microbiol. 2003 Nov;69(11):6489-94.<br /> Methicillin (Oxacillin)-resistant Staphylococcus aureus strains isolated from major food animals and their potential transmission to humans.Lee JH.</p> <p>Get on PubMed and search for “MRSA pigs” or “wastewater antibiotic resistance” and you will find articles describing research on the the family trees of the MRSA bug and others regarding the different routes the bugs take through people and animals.</p> I decided to look again, since it bugs me I can’t find that article now. This one used different methods, but constructs a family tree and discusses different routes the bug might have taken through people and animals.

Appl Environ Microbiol. 2003 Nov;69(11):6489-94.
Methicillin (Oxacillin)-resistant Staphylococcus aureus strains isolated from major food animals and their potential transmission to humans.Lee JH.

Get on PubMed and search for “MRSA pigs” or “wastewater antibiotic resistance” and you will find articles describing research on the the family trees of the MRSA bug and others regarding the different routes the bugs take through people and animals.

]]> By: wesgpc http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219720 wesgpc Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:29:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219720 <p>Well, I can’t find the one I mentioned above, but below are two examples of the kind of study I was talking about. The first identifies strains circulating in wastewater from pig farms. The second in community wastewater with strains that seem to come from hospitals discharges.</p> <p>Environ Contam Toxicol. 2008 Jan 12<br /> Antibiotic and Disinfectant Susceptibility Profiles of Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococcus faecium (VRE) Isolated from Community Wastewater in Texas.Beier RC, Duke SE, Ziprin RL, Harvey RB, Hume ME, Poole TL, Scott HM, Highfield LD, Alali WQ, Andrews K, Anderson RC, Nisbet DJ.</p> <p>Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 2005 Oct;49(10):4382-5.<br /> Vancomycin-resistant Enterococcus faecium strains isolated from community wastewater from a semiclosed agri-food system in Texas.Poole TL, Hume ME, Campbell LD, Scott HM, Alali WQ, Harvey RB.</p> Well, I can’t find the one I mentioned above, but below are two examples of the kind of study I was talking about. The first identifies strains circulating in wastewater from pig farms. The second in community wastewater with strains that seem to come from hospitals discharges.

Environ Contam Toxicol. 2008 Jan 12
Antibiotic and Disinfectant Susceptibility Profiles of Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococcus faecium (VRE) Isolated from Community Wastewater in Texas.Beier RC, Duke SE, Ziprin RL, Harvey RB, Hume ME, Poole TL, Scott HM, Highfield LD, Alali WQ, Andrews K, Anderson RC, Nisbet DJ.

Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 2005 Oct;49(10):4382-5.
Vancomycin-resistant Enterococcus faecium strains isolated from community wastewater from a semiclosed agri-food system in Texas.Poole TL, Hume ME, Campbell LD, Scott HM, Alali WQ, Harvey RB.

]]> By: wesgpc http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219661 wesgpc Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:59:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219661 <p>thanks for that article, but I was certainly not suggesting that any kind of lifestyle (sexual or sports or anything else) was a cause of or encouraged MRSA. I posted because I felt that people were picking on hospitals as the one source, and there were other conspiracy theories being mentioned, that I did not believe very much. The article you cited does say that there are multple strains, but that one that seems to come from hospitals as been historically the most dangerouse, so does not contradict what I asserted. But you have a point that the one strain that has the most dangerous history is from hospitals. If I find the article I mentioned in time I will post it here. It had the broadest coverage of anything I have seen, and discoverd a number of strains of disease resistant bacteria that look like they come from multiple sources, with hospitals and animal factory farms standing out as the two main sources. But it did not have any measure of virulence of evert strain, just what sort of genetic reistance mechanisms had been developed by different strains and their likely family trees.</p> thanks for that article, but I was certainly not suggesting that any kind of lifestyle (sexual or sports or anything else) was a cause of or encouraged MRSA. I posted because I felt that people were picking on hospitals as the one source, and there were other conspiracy theories being mentioned, that I did not believe very much. The article you cited does say that there are multple strains, but that one that seems to come from hospitals as been historically the most dangerouse, so does not contradict what I asserted. But you have a point that the one strain that has the most dangerous history is from hospitals. If I find the article I mentioned in time I will post it here. It had the broadest coverage of anything I have seen, and discoverd a number of strains of disease resistant bacteria that look like they come from multiple sources, with hospitals and animal factory farms standing out as the two main sources. But it did not have any measure of virulence of evert strain, just what sort of genetic reistance mechanisms had been developed by different strains and their likely family trees.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219483 cinnamonape Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:06:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219483 <p>This article which actually traced the infection rates to various specific causes found <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080122/hl_nm/staph_usa_dc;_ylt=AqmywjVd4lX.aD1w6LHiQwLVJRIF" rel="nofollow">85% of MRSA acquired IN HOSPITALS</a> and a significant remainder of the rest were associated with sports teams locker-rooms, gyms, etc.</p> <p>There goes the gay-caused theory right from the get-go, I’d say.</p> <p>And apparently the genetic fingerprinting does appear to indicate that the MRSA Staphlococcus is derived from a single genetic source of hospital-derived resistant strains. Again, the genetic work also falsifies the “gay-disease” hypothesis. It hasn’t emerged several times in different hospitals…it has spread between them. How this has occurred will obviously be a hot subject in order to get this, as well as other resistant bacteria under control.</p> <p>I’m wondering if the Castro District has a large community hospital. In addition, individuals with HIV may be particular susceptible to MRSA. If they enter a hospital they may contract MRSA and show severe symptoms. But other people with non-compromised immune systems may not demonstrate these (but still carry the bacterium). It’s not that HIV-infected people transmit the disease, but they may be more easily susceptible to becoming seriously infected by it.</p> This article which actually traced the infection rates to various specific causes found 85% of MRSA acquired IN HOSPITALS and a significant remainder of the rest were associated with sports teams locker-rooms, gyms, etc.

There goes the gay-caused theory right from the get-go, I’d say.

And apparently the genetic fingerprinting does appear to indicate that the MRSA Staphlococcus is derived from a single genetic source of hospital-derived resistant strains. Again, the genetic work also falsifies the “gay-disease” hypothesis. It hasn’t emerged several times in different hospitals…it has spread between them. How this has occurred will obviously be a hot subject in order to get this, as well as other resistant bacteria under control.

I’m wondering if the Castro District has a large community hospital. In addition, individuals with HIV may be particular susceptible to MRSA. If they enter a hospital they may contract MRSA and show severe symptoms. But other people with non-compromised immune systems may not demonstrate these (but still carry the bacterium). It’s not that HIV-infected people transmit the disease, but they may be more easily susceptible to becoming seriously infected by it.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219474 eCAHNomics Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:01:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219474 <p>The Internet signal was not a problem. It’s the power cord that I was missing from Friday until tonight.</p> <p>Tell us about your cruise. Where did you go & what did you do?</p> The Internet signal was not a problem. It’s the power cord that I was missing from Friday until tonight.

Tell us about your cruise. Where did you go & what did you do?

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219469 perris Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:59:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219469 <p>if you have a mobile phone, sprint and verizon let you tether to some of their phoes for pretty fast internet, I get 700 kps which is pretty close to dsl speed</p> <p>it’s great when I can’t find a hot spot and really doesn’t cost that much more on top of my phone plan</p> if you have a mobile phone, sprint and verizon let you tether to some of their phoes for pretty fast internet, I get 700 kps which is pretty close to dsl speed

it’s great when I can’t find a hot spot and really doesn’t cost that much more on top of my phone plan

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219467 perris Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:58:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219467 <p>ha, I’ve been on a cruise for a week, was able to post only when I got a sprint signal for my laptop</p> <p>hope you had fun, I had tons</p> ha, I’ve been on a cruise for a week, was able to post only when I got a sprint signal for my laptop

hope you had fun, I had tons

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219421 eCAHNomics Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:29:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219421 <p>Thanks for asking. Skiing was great. Seemed like we had a foot of new powder every day. Only 2 sunny days out of 9!</p> <p>I’ve been home for a week, but headed up to the country last Friday forgetting my power cord. </p> <p>Now back in the city & plugged in.</p> <p>Special notice: <strong>Next NYC FDL meetup </strong>this Friday, 6pm, Parnell’s Pub, 53rd Street & First Avenue. Come one, come all.</p> Thanks for asking. Skiing was great. Seemed like we had a foot of new powder every day. Only 2 sunny days out of 9!

I’ve been home for a week, but headed up to the country last Friday forgetting my power cord.

Now back in the city & plugged in.

Special notice: Next NYC FDL meetup this Friday, 6pm, Parnell’s Pub, 53rd Street & First Avenue. Come one, come all.

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219411 Loo Hoo. Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:26:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/department-of-bogosity/#comment-1219411 <p>Hi eCAHN. Home? How was the skiing?</p> Hi eCAHN. Home? How was the skiing?

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