Comments on: From Four a Week to Four a Day – the Air Surge in Iraq http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:52:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sona http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1216210 sona Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:56:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1216210 <p>I read the diary by Ben Anderson linked in this post a couple of days ago. I still cannot come to grips with the old man in a shura who says “Life has no meaning for me anymore. I lost 27 members of my family. My house has been destroyed. Everything I’ve built for seventy years is gone…….” or the compound where the troops end up in a deadly firefight and discover a man with the six children, including three toddlers and a baby.</p> I read the diary by Ben Anderson linked in this post a couple of days ago. I still cannot come to grips with the old man in a shura who says “Life has no meaning for me anymore. I lost 27 members of my family. My house has been destroyed. Everything I’ve built for seventy years is gone…….” or the compound where the troops end up in a deadly firefight and discover a man with the six children, including three toddlers and a baby.

]]> By: Siun http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215807 Siun Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:54:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215807 <p>SunnyNobility - thank you! good Joyce and good words for today.</p> SunnyNobility – thank you! good Joyce and good words for today.

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215757 kirk murphy Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:35:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215757 <p>if a frog had wings it wouldn’t whup its ass every time it jumped</p> <p>[my take on <em>The Fallacity of If</em> ;) ]</p> if a frog had wings it wouldn’t whup its ass every time it jumped

[my take on The Fallacity of If ;) ]

]]> By: SunnyNobility http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215750 SunnyNobility Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:33:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215750 <blockquote><p>So … how do we reclaim the kind of truthful language MLK used about Vietnam? We talk about “insurgents” instead of resistance, continue to have trouble saying “occupation” and “war crimes” and even out “leaders” never mention the suffering of the Iraqi people only of “our troops”?</p> <p>Any thoughts?</p></blockquote> <p>No thoughts, only fears. Sort of timely - James Joyce said after he left Ireland in his<em>Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man</em>:</p> <p>“I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can,using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use — silence, exile, and cunning.”</p>

So … how do we reclaim the kind of truthful language MLK used about Vietnam? We talk about “insurgents” instead of resistance, continue to have trouble saying “occupation” and “war crimes” and even out “leaders” never mention the suffering of the Iraqi people only of “our troops”?

Any thoughts?

No thoughts, only fears. Sort of timely – James Joyce said after he left Ireland in hisPortrait of the Artist as a Young Man:

“I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can,using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use — silence, exile, and cunning.”

]]> By: bonkers http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215729 bonkers Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:29:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215729 <p>If he does get elected, and if he really is a Liberal that’s pandering just enough to get elected, than becoming President is perhaps the most subversive act he could do. The amount of change he could create from that position is breathtaking. Would be the perfect pinnacle of all the work people in the Civil Rights movement have done before him.</p> <p>Now he just might be another Clinton DLCer and continue America’s slide into a purely fascist state however. Time tells all…</p> If he does get elected, and if he really is a Liberal that’s pandering just enough to get elected, than becoming President is perhaps the most subversive act he could do. The amount of change he could create from that position is breathtaking. Would be the perfect pinnacle of all the work people in the Civil Rights movement have done before him.

Now he just might be another Clinton DLCer and continue America’s slide into a purely fascist state however. Time tells all…

]]> By: Siun http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215712 Siun Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:24:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215712 <p>Correction … that’s our Teddy upstairs with Countdown!</p> <p>pardon the glitch firepups</p> Correction … that’s our Teddy upstairs with Countdown!

pardon the glitch firepups

]]> By: GorillasGuides http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215699 GorillasGuides Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:21:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215699 <blockquote><p>Senator, get your Armani-clad ass arrested for civil disobedience for anything ………</p> <p><strike>Poser.</strike> Loser</p></blockquote>

Senator, get your Armani-clad ass arrested for civil disobedience for anything ………

Poser. Loser

]]> By: Laura Doty http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215698 Laura Doty Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:21:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215698 <p>Sleeping baby music is the best there is. I’m sure you’re savoring it….gosh it goes so fast.</p> Sleeping baby music is the best there is. I’m sure you’re savoring it….gosh it goes so fast.

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215681 kirk murphy Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:16:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215681 <blockquote><p>He led with words, but he also led with deeds. He also led by example. He led by marching and going to jail and suffering threats and being away from his family. He led by taking a stand against a war, knowing full well that it would diminish his popularity. He led by challenging our economic structures, understanding that it would cause discomfort. Dr. King understood that unity cannot be won on the cheap; that we would have to earn it through great effort and determination.</p></blockquote> <p>Senator, get your Armani-clad ass arrested for civil disobedience for <em>anything</em> you even pretend to care about, and I’ll listen to what you have to say on this issue.</p> <p>You calculating ambitious poser.</p> <p>Where’d you protest the day the Iraq War started, Senator?</p> <p>Where did you get videotaped by the PD just for showing up to take a stand?</p> <p>What did you to arrange clinics or permits or logistics so anti-war protests could unfold?</p> <p>What the fuck did you do that day, Senator Machine Tool?</p> <p>Where the fuck were you during the RNC protests against Bush and his war in ‘04?</p> <p>Didn’t see your gammers lighting up the holding pens on the toxic pier.</p> <p>Didn’t hear shit from you.</p> <p>Coward - you not only can’t show up for an arrest, you can’t even show up to do your own damn job and vote more than a piss-ass “present” when it could hurt your blessed career to take a stand.</p> <p>Poser.</p>

He led with words, but he also led with deeds. He also led by example. He led by marching and going to jail and suffering threats and being away from his family. He led by taking a stand against a war, knowing full well that it would diminish his popularity. He led by challenging our economic structures, understanding that it would cause discomfort. Dr. King understood that unity cannot be won on the cheap; that we would have to earn it through great effort and determination.

Senator, get your Armani-clad ass arrested for civil disobedience for anything you even pretend to care about, and I’ll listen to what you have to say on this issue.

You calculating ambitious poser.

Where’d you protest the day the Iraq War started, Senator?

Where did you get videotaped by the PD just for showing up to take a stand?

What did you to arrange clinics or permits or logistics so anti-war protests could unfold?

What the fuck did you do that day, Senator Machine Tool?

Where the fuck were you during the RNC protests against Bush and his war in ‘04?

Didn’t see your gammers lighting up the holding pens on the toxic pier.

Didn’t hear shit from you.

Coward – you not only can’t show up for an arrest, you can’t even show up to do your own damn job and vote more than a piss-ass “present” when it could hurt your blessed career to take a stand.

Poser.

]]> By: GorillasGuides http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215680 GorillasGuides Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:16:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/from-four-a-week-to-four-a-day-the-air-surge-in-iraq/#comment-1215680 <p>Thanks Laura there is a chorus of very tiny snores coming from the boys room :-)</p> Thanks Laura there is a chorus of very tiny snores coming from the boys room :-)

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