We in this house are of a mind that the priority is to beat the GOP.

Now they’ve got HRC at 53
and Obama at 44.

Nevada Democratic Party website

http://www.nvdems08.com/

With 47% reporting, Hillary 50% Obama 44% Edwards 5%

We in our house are of the same mind. Regards to Lahoma.

FPUd: How are you going to cook the cats? Fileted, dredged in corn meal, pan-fried?

CNN numbers seem painfully behind the actual totals…

Jeralyn says Obama has left Las Vegas for Chicago…

I’m guessing he figures he lost…

who likes Bloomberg?

Although Romney won, Ron Paul tied with McCain for second, both at 12%

http://www.nvgopcaucus.com/results

The caucus is not a fair vote in my opinion.

Im really going to have a problem voting for Clinton.
Someone tell me why she would be good for our country

So why does Obama and Edwards still win in EVERY head-to-head poll out there against the possible Repube knobs? Hillary still loses the most in the head-to-heads.

Why do people argue that Hillary is the most “electable?”

Votes should be in private. I don’t like the caucus idea.

I’m not going there.

It’s obvious that Edwards supporters went to one of the others.

Someone’s second choice vote is choosing who my president is going to be, and I have no say in it as a citizen.

CNN exit polls didn’t poll the Strip, so they are way off.

i cant think of anyway….she cant even BAKE COOKIES

Isnt it really who the DNC wants not us. Wonder what info they have

I gather the anti-caucus folks have never participated in a good ole town meeting … soemthing I miss from NH. That to me is real democracy.

it’s another word for impeachment will be on the table.

not only can’t she bake cookies, she’s far too short to be president…

With 66% reporting, Hillary 50% Obama 45%

Hmmm…outside of using his middle name, how does this differ from anything Bill&Hill have been saying constantly for the last two weeks?

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/....._obama.php

I think town hall meetings are great. I just think a voter should be able to vote and the vote stand. Whoever gets the most votes, wins. That is democracy to me.

I guess the only question can be. Will she pick more liberal Supreme judges.

I want GOOD FAITH BAKED GOODS for the coming depression

She’d better, with a D Senate and a D House. Why would she have a need to play to conservatives? OH yeah, there is the getting ready for the second term election . . .

CNN just called it for Clinton

CNN calls Nevada for Hillary

yes! Faith baked cookies! but, sadly… she’s short and is blonde and cannot bake… definitely not presidential material there…

;-)

You’re confusing open debate and dialog, which is great, with open voting, which is awful, IMHO. There the overbearing husbands, bosses, etc. can make sure people vote a certain way. And why can’t I vote for a certain person on the ballot just because enough other people aren’t also voting the same way? That’s not democratic.

CBS calls Nevada for Hillary

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....1581.shtml

A ton of Clark County just reported and it has pretty much cemented Hillary’s lead. Still some in Washoie out that may help Obama. But I think Hillary’s got the win, if not the massive amount of delegates needed to make it a “strong win”. Don’t want to spin this too much, but in a State where there are so few African-Americans this is a good showing for Obama. It suggests that he can draw a good number of Hispanic and white Democrats.

Any one care to compare the numbers vs. the Republicans? Seems like a ton more Democratic voters than Repugs (yet again in any contested Primary).

not only can’t she bake cookies, she’s far too short to be president…

now you’ve gone an dunnit, staturely challenged is not PC is it?

I am very disappointed. I was hoping John Edwards would win

The whole point may be to defeat the rethugs, but who really thinks that Clinton or Obama will be a breath of fresh air? They are both DLC types that will take us to the same place that the rethugs want to go; it will just be a slower trip. Just look at their records in the Senate, look at who is funding them, and look at their advisors. I am not a real Edwards backer, but he, more than the other two, is a chance for change. The real change is Kucinich, but he can’t get any ink or air time.

John Edwards had a very bad day and I’m sad…

think about Shrub’s third term

at Town Meeting you vote by raising your hand … your neighbors and friends and family and all see how you vote and hear what you argue …. very public and often very contentious … and energizing

Any one care to compare the numbers vs. the Republicans? Seems like a ton more Democratic voters than Repugs (yet again in any contested Primary).

Has anyone seen an estimate of actual vote count on the Dem side? I think the Dems only officially report delegate numbers.

Impeach Hillary

My only hope is that Clinton Hires Edwards to be the new attorney General and she takes it to the bushco’s vast right wing conspiracy. On this point she has been vindicated in my eyes…We need to prosecute the thugs who have been operating illegally within our gov’t since Nixon…My hope is that she has the venom to do it.

im gettin nervous as in if HRC wins …..another VERY CLOSE general inNov

The Clintons get 300 votes ahead of Obama and that is a victory!

your neighbors and friends and family and all see how you vote and hear what you argue

Yes. And wife beaters see how their wives vote. And bosses see how their employees vote. That would be just great for unions!

Are you defending the 15% qualifying rule that limits how I could vote at a caucus?

Something keeps picking at me…Why is Bill Clinton so pissed off about the Obama campaign? Why? It doesn’t seem rational to me, but that is because I don’t know what is behind it….but there is definitely something there, because Bubba doesn’t lose his cool, which is why he was always so successful…at least has hasn’t until this race. I dunno.

and then ya go off together and have a beer and talk about the warrant issues that got voted up or down and how the snow-plow jobs will be this winter.

And if she wins DC is back to the DLC and the Dean revolution is entirely OVER.

Has anyone heard a cogent explanation as to Edwards poor showing today?

Thanks Dakine .. glad someone else knows how it goes!

Siun, you are so right on this one. I’ve participated in a few caucuses and there really is nothing like actually standing up in front of your neighbors and letting them know what you think. It’s participatory democracy at its roots. Secret ballots are for general elections.

CBS calls Nevada for Hillary< .i>

With about 350 votes separating them at the moment.

What utter bullshit that the votes of maybe 10,000 people can carry such weight.

Why in the world would the networks be calling this race with less than 400 votes separating the candidates?

Im really going to have a problem voting for Clinton.
Someone tell me why she would be good for our country

Supreme Court Justices.
(for one)

Cheryl and I just got back from our precinct caucus.

The disorganization, man, wow. These people need to get a clue.

Yep. :}) I lived in small town NH a couple of different times and my sister has lived up there for 35 years now.

So if there is really dirty stuff on Obama and it comes out…what then.
Hillary will rev up all Repugs who have been drooling about running against her.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....879/439500

I agree, no attention is being paid to Kucinich, little more is being paid to Edwards. I’ll just have to keep contributing to both, though, if only to help keep Edwards at least in the debates, and hopefuly force the other two to address some progressive issues.

Yeah, but everyone knows Obama worships Reagan and won’t really manage the government.

It’s been all over the media.

Thats impeach Hilliary…. by extension you don’t want to see bush impeached??

One year we had the very best scandal …. the town snow plow driver was arrested for DUI in the plow midday …
since town meeting is mid-winter, this led to considerable discussion.

When people get a chance to speak up, we all win I think

With Edwards at about 4% right now - can he move his few hundred votes?

The BBC has a good presentation about the major economic problem facing the candidates

Hillary hearts Lieberman. How on earth anyone can allow themselves to believe she intends to do anything other than embrace this criminal cabal is beyond me.

since impeaching bush isn’t an option i’ll settle for hillary.

SHE KICKED HIS A-S-S!!!!! I guess next time the Union Boses really ought to check with the rank and file about who to endorse huh?

Looks like the media BLACKOUT on news of Edwards is working for them. i am extremely sad.

I liked it when I found out that the (elected) sheriff enjoyed certain green leafy substances.

okk and I are disappointed. kiddo is cleaning fish.

lahoma

You mean there aren’t enough Republicans to Impeach? Why Impeach someone on our side??

You know, fuck voting for whoever the Dem nominee is. I’ve been getting so disgusted with the Clinton campaign in the last two weeks, especially Bill’s rants and flat-out lies, that I’m not sure I can bear to see them in the White House again. Seriously. It probably won’t matter because anyway because she would likely lose in the General.

We can put all efforts to Blue America and seriously stack Congress with More and Better. Then, down the road, we can get an actual Democrat in the White House since the pendulum will have swung far enough by that point. We’ve made progress, but the fact that Hillary is winning anything, and that their dirty campaigning seems to be working on some of the sheeple, shows we’re just getting started.

If the Clinton Machine does win, how long before Bill “The Doughy Pants-off” Clinton has another affair? I ask this seriously since when I worked for a campaign against him in the 1992 primaries, we had all these reports about his affairs as Gov, and how he would embarrass the DemocratIC Party and everything we stood for. Sho’ nuff!!! (we chose not to stoop low in our campaigning, unfortunately the Clintons and the DLC-led DNC did take the low road)

Obama has openly chastised the DLC and Pox News. Hillary has been President of the DLC, appears on Pox Newz, and takes a lot of money from Ruturd Murdoch and friends. I still think Obama is walking a tightrope walk while campaigning he has to walk given his skin color and lack of name recognition. His life’s work proves that he’s a pretty Liberal guy.

I’m not willing to gamble on Hillary because she MIGHT appoint a somewhat Liberal judge. Even if she does, she’ll destroy everything else.

OK…take breath…there’s time still. I better go…

ooooh … bet that was quite a time!

Corn meal, salt and black pepper. Deep fried.

lahoma

Sure the blackout is working. I’ve supported/donated to Edwards from the beginning. He’s my 1st choice, Hillary my 2nd. I really don’t want Obama. Not at all. So who do I vote for in my primary? ‘Waste’ it on Edwards and maybe let Obama win or forget Edwards and vote Hillary.
Of course, this is all hypothetical. I’m from NY.

Let’s just say we didn’t worry too much while he was in office.

One possible explanation for the low Edwards numbers in Nevada
apparently in the Nevada caucus there is no second choice
so in places where he was marginal I’ve heard he suggested people go with obama

Welcome to my world, brother.

if impeaching a democrat is what it takes to challenge the unitary executive theory, i’m all for it.

Yum! Enjoy. Side dishes?

Oh boy! Cue the Clinton Comeback storylines again! She’s such an Underdog!

hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/01/clinton_camp_gi.html

They literally just make shit up. Constantly.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljou.....mp_gi.html

OK I will bite, what charges?

Edwards came to my town last night, but I missed him. Both of my daughters were in, one had my new grandbaby with her. One of my daughters lives in Las Vegas, so she missed the Caucus.

beats me. i’m sure it won’t take long for republicans to come up with something.

Now we get to watch Matthews salivate at the prospect of his 9-month wet dream coming true.

PANTSUIT! CACKLE! KNOBGATE! CLEAVAGE! CRYING!

I can’t wait.

How odd that everything the media says about Obama is false
but everything the media says about Clinton is true

You don’t think he is the slightest bit chastened?

Nevada has a viability threshold. If enough people don’t show up to vote for your candidate, you can’t vote for him/her.

I thought so. Lets get all the RNC for destroying all those White House e-mails!

I don’t think the word “chastened” is in his vocabulary.

Apparently, the exit polls are suggesting Hillary did much better than Obama with Hispanics. Anyone have an explanation for this?

Cool little tidbit:

At Precinct 7097…the final vote count was Hillary Clinton 59…and Barack Obama 54…. The surprising thing to organizers was that 20 percent of the 116 voters were registered Republicans who switched party registration.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blo...../republic/

Is the threshold level 15%, like Iowa?

Latest has McCain leading Huck in SC. Romney is way back

Who did they vote for?

I believe that is the standard threshold across the entire Democratic Party.

Huh? It is odd though that most things the Clintons and their highest ranking campaign staffers say turns out to be false. Strange, or more of the same?

At Precinct 7097…the final vote count was Hillary Clinton 59…and Barack Obama 54…. The surprising thing to organizers was that 20 percent of the 116 voters were registered Republicans who switched party registration.

fuckery??

I don’t know. The Las Vegas Sun says, “If the candidate group does not meet the threshold to win at least one delegate…”

The Republican caucus in that state has private votes.

Delores Huerta, a hero for many Hispanics in America, works for Hillary’s campaign. Huerta has been very active, and just like the Hill&Bill, she been very negative about Obama. Huerta has a lot of sway.

Who would be more likely to bring a reluctant, disengaged base out to vote?

I wonder….

great big WAG and gross generalization… the Hispanic Dems I know tend to like Bill and I would classify as more conservative Dems… I think Obama is perceived to be more liberal in spite of his admiration for Raygun.

Why are the results shown as ‘votes’ for the repubs and ‘delegates’ for the dems?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

that is fine by me. Still doesn’t challenge the Unitary Executive and the DLC/DCCC is equally culpable in the executive overreach, imho.

I’m watching my man clean fish, and as usual he wants to talk politics. He says he’s going to hedge his bets and say just about anything is possible. If elected HRC could prove to be a great president. I reminded kiddo, the opposite could also happen. He responded he couldn’t argue with that, and that we’ll just have to see. I am unable for obvious reasons to prove him wrong on that point. We both agree it would be wonderful to shove Senator Clinton down the throats of Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest.

we need to start a club anyone but Hillary

Unfortunately, the Dems don’t release actual voter counts, but the number of delegates won.

I’d love to see the vote counts to compare them directly to the Rethugs.

We both agree it would be wonderful to shove Senator Clinton down the throats of Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest.

Hi, Lahoma! I suspect that of all the candidates, she bears the deepest personal antipathy to the Republican Party muckety-mucks, after what they did to Bill and her when he was President.

Nevada caucus toals for the Democratic caucas are about 12,0000 who cares>Hillary had the entire State Democratic Party with her and so much for the culinary workers

At least one county, Horris, in South Carolina, has had massive Electronic Voting Machine failure. I am shocked and I will be probably be more shocked when the Democrats try to vote next week.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5579

Late in the week poll workers picked up the iVotronic machines that they are using today. They took them home on voting machine “sleepovers” and then set-up the poll sites for today’s primary.

Today only the Republicans are voting.

When the polls close this evening all memory cards, machines and supplies will be returned to the county election office.

The tallies will be done and results reported. The machines will then be prepared to be picked-up next Thursday by the same poll workers who will take them home and repeat the “sleepover” process for the Democratic primary next Saturday.

This plan seems to be a welcome mat for security problems, since the machines are highly susceptible to tampering, and even short periods outside the view of the public and election officials can be a recipe for disaster. Also in question is whether memory cards will be saved between the two primaries, as per federal law. This Train Wreck will probably throw a locomotive wheel into the counties plans.

We in this house are of a mind that the priority is to beat the GOP.

Per her votes to date in the Senate, she is the GOP.

they are releasing totals with 80% about 9,000

Katherine,

Re: “I am very disappointed. I was hoping John Edwards would win”

That’s quite interesting. If I can take you at your word, then I have to say that of the three viable choices we had going into this thing, I’m with you. I much prefer Kucinich’s honest record to the gulf between Edward’s rhetoric and record, but I do like Edward’s rhetoric.

From my previous acquaintance with your writing, I sure wouldn’t have guessed you for a populist upstart. (smiles) I’m delighting into my new insight into KGC. So unlike your namesake:

“We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.” — Katharine Graham at a 1988 speech at CIA headquarters

If either HRC or Obama is our party’s nominees, kiddo and I will drag each other kicking and screaming to the polls. We are certain that John Edwards and his wife belong in the White House come next January.

L.

The caucus is not a fair vote in my opinion.

The caucuses are as inaccurate as the moronic voting machines that are being used in the majority of counties in the majority of states. The primary schedule is assinine as well.

A lot of people were excluded from the Nevada caucuses because they were held on Saturday.

An EPUed comment about Edwards you might find of interest.

Pete - that’s simply not true.

I have to agree with lahoma. As much as I don’t particularly want to vote for her it is pleasant to think of cramming Hillary down the Repubs’ throats and watching them choke on her.

Unlike Clinton.