Comments on: Come Saturday Morning: The News Roundup (with New Extra Rickman!)

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:28:27 +0000

PetePierce @ 265:

Edwards isn’t in the Senate any more, so he can’t vote on immunity anyway. Obama and Clinton can.

That being said, it’s time for us to get on the horn and push killing it one more time.

By: Kathryn in MA

Kathryn in MA — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:41:41 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:14:19 +0000

You have been complaining about folks extrapolating from Obama statements to derive his views on various topics without evidence.

And here you extrapolate Senator Clinton’s views on the other issues of S. 2248 based on what she DID NOT mention in her statement.

That’s a pretty good talent you have there.

You can quibble ’til the cows come home. But the reason that S. 2248 is very probably going to pass with Immunity is that scores of Democrats in the Senate are supporting Immunity.

The two candidates have been marginal in this. Edwards who is now a Kingmaker, is marginal in this.

Hillary’s voting record has been very very pro Bush. She pushed being in Iraq. She pushes staying in Iraq.

The House Bill stripped immunity. The Democratic Senate Majority leader is pushing immunity. That’s the problem.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:10:21 +0000

I am quite unimpressed by those Obama quotes. I have to run off to a wedding now, but will try to put something together later this evening. Later.

They were the same as the Hillary quotes. You haven’t forgotten her in this have you?

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:08:47 +0000

You have been complaining about folks extrapolating from Obama statements to derive his views on various topics without evidence.

And here you extrapolate Senator Clinton’s views on the other issues of S. 2248 based on what she DID NOT mention in her statement.

That’s a pretty good talent you have there.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:08:26 +0000

I’m not. I agree with you entirely that they should be back in an ideal world and should both be much more active. I wish I could be on the floor to speak against immunity. It has huge implications and I know you have appreciated this not only because of the lawsuits, but because of the illegal partnership between the Telcos and the Comcos and the Bush administration with all kinds of behind the scenes breaks for them against the little guy.

This goes way beyond them buying lobbyists. This is direct whoring by the Bush administration to them.

By: wigwam

wigwam — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:04:09 +0000

I am quite unimpressed by those Obama quotes. I have to run off to a wedding now, but will try to put something together later this evening. Later.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:04:07 +0000

Just as Clinton did not ask to read the PDEs when she could have in the White House, she obviously hasn’t read the rest of the totally equally bad S. 2248 which even without immunity gives control of wiretapping not to a Court, or to Congress, but to DNI and DOJ.

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:00:09 +0000

If you will notice, I have stated that they BOTH should be on the floor of the Senate on this issue and not out campaigning and that I fault BOTH of them for their failure to do so in December.

And I haven’t heard much from Senator Obama on this important issue either, so please do not hold her to a higher standard.

By: RBG

RBG — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:58:57 +0000

Let’s all be very careful about using terms that might be considered sexist on this foul mouthed fem blog.