Hi Jane!

The AP has already called it for Romney.

Nevada maybe?

So who emerges with he “Big Mo?”

Feh.

How can they call it already?

The weather is evidently for shit

Well, right across the Savannah River from SC it’s a persistent soaking rain that we’re glad to have. However, it’s not really a day that makes you want to leave the house.

Chuck Todd sez Romney won Nevada because of large Mormon turnout. Ascribes his ability to go forward in other states with large Mormon populations.

I would think that this would be Huckabee country. Is the AP doing a little wishful thinking?

Romney in Nevada he isn’t in the running in SC

I am very confused. What state is doing what?

I am con.fu.zed.

Entrance polls.

Seems to me that if Huck loses SC he’s in very deep trouble.

Mitt and Blackwater will win the puke nomination so it seems to me…

breaking news: a progressive will be on sunday talk show:

Watch Katrina vanden Heuvel this Sunday morning, January 20, on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos. The program airs at 10:00am in many places but broadcast times vary by city so check local listings or the show’s website to confirm air time in your area. The Nation’s editor and publisher will be part of a media roundtable discussing the Nevada primary and other news of the week with Matthew Dowd, Chrystia Freeland and George Will.

sorry, fixed

Yes, this is the state where the pukes kill one another politically - a la the 2000 McCain shiv in the back. What few powers are left in the puke party must have strength in SC to do the bidding of someone.

Could we see a religious war within the GOP between Mormon and radical right evangelitcals? A boy can hope can’t he?

OT

Bill Moyers on MLK and LBJ

It might be kinda fun to run against a robot with nice shiny hair.

SC’s republican citizenry is down and dirty, kill off the upstarts, McCain has a black child, redneckish kind of place.
I assume.

You haven’t seen rednecks until you’ve seen southeastern SC rednecks. They’re a breed apart.

Like in ‘Deliverance’? I hated that movie. Had nightmares for weeks.

You need to visit the Fresno area in California….

Deliverance was in Northern GA.

Here piggy, piggy.

I know. But true rednecks are scary no matter what the geography.

I’m rooting for Romney. As phony as he is, I think he’s the least dangerous of the repubs.

We may need to keep this in mind: No state is red or blue. They are all shades of purple.

Dr. Dean’s 50-state strategy is painstaking, but it is working.

OT but shit: EPA Invokes Executive Privilege In Denying Emissions Waiver In California Over at C&R http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..alifornia/
What fucking kind of bullshit is this?? Where is Hugh… Add this one to his list!!

Watch Katrina vanden Heuvel this Sunday morning, January 20, on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos.

She’s been on there before. I think she was on there last week?

Thinking of the repubs. I used to be most afraid of Rudy. But, let me tell you, Huck is just as scary. Not as a nominee, but as a pres.

I think Romney would be our most difficult opponent.

It appears that this is going to end up being a pocketbook election.
More than any other Repulican candidate, Romney’s background suggests, real or not, that he has some economic acumen.

Here is something about Obama and Chicago poitics.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....879/439500

Wonder if this will blow up?

None of them give me the feeling of calm confidence.

Huck is much more dangerous as prez. He is ignorant, stubborn, a rightwing nut, and a religious zealot. Rudy just wants to have fun /s

Well we’ll see if he has the Teflon facade that Regan had. Perhaps another thing that Obama could compare himself to

Gotta be frustrating for Mitt; he’s won three states and no one will call him the frontrunner.

And he’s not a businessman; he’s a private equitist, or a corporate pirate. No business acumen required in the Main Street sense of the word. Just buy companies, lay off workers, break up the assets and sell them off. It’s not business at all; it’s piracy.

Enough Americans have seen this happen — or had it happen to them — that Romney will be toast in the general. And I am not even counting the magic underwear factor.

Teddy, that’s the definition of republican economics, isn’t it?

Sent some more loot to Edwards yesterday. He may well be the last one standing after the corporatists get zapped. Here is hoping.

CA failed to promise sufficient kickbacks to Republic politicians and their supporters to qualify for a waiver. In the Bush era, things are done differently.

that is my hope as well.

Better now than later

And he’s not a businessman; he’s a private equitist, or a corporate pirate. No business acumen required in the Main Street sense of the word. Just buy companies, lay off workers, break up the assets and sell them off. It’s not business at all; it’s piracy.

Well said TSF. He is a fu**ing leech.

I did too. Hillary and Obama poll less than John in the general.

The fight between Romney and the AP reporter that was heavily broadcast helped Romney. It made him appear more manly for getting mad and standing up for his foolish self.

Some OT linky follow up to yesterday’s comment.

Google search on women management style –

When the Boss is a Woman — Men and Women are equally effective in settings that match gender roles

What the Research Shows

To address the question of whether men and women have different management styles, Eagly and Johnson conducted a 1990 review of leadership studies. Interestingly, although lab studies of management styles showed women to be both interpersonally oriented and democratic and men to be both task-oriented and autocratic, field studies found a difference on only one of those dimensions: The women were more democratic, encouraging participation, and the men were more autocratic, directing performance.

A 2003 meta-analysis extended those findings, showing that women were slightly more likely than men to have the transformational leadership style, in which the manager acts more like a good teacher or coach and encourages creative solutions to problems. Research shows that such a style may be especially suited to the contemporary workplace. Women also appeared to reward good performance more than men, a very positive part of transactional leadership. Men were more likely to criticize subordinates and be less hands-on, styles found to be ineffective. …

Psychologists such as Eagly note a vicious cycle: If bias against women as managers restricts women’s access to higher management positions, they’re shut out from the chance to demonstrate their ability to handle line responsibility and further build their leadership skills.

At the same time, women aspiring to management may consider their sex and their behavioral style in light of where they work. They may get a more positive appraisal in sectors typically populated by women, but if they work in the many areas dominated by men, adapting their style to the more command-and-control approach may help them fit in.

It’s not really new … but there are some questions that hopefully will get cleared up. Note that the article opens with:
”The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.”

and the issues raised have been brought up before … we’ll see what actually happens but everything these days is being spun from all sides with a lot of frenzy …

so tired of primary season

I couldn’t agree more.

And he’s not a businessman; he’s a private equitist, or a corporate pirate. No business acumen required in the Main Street sense of the word. Just buy companies, lay off workers, break up the assets and sell them off. It’s not business at all; it’s piracy.

Per The Devil’s Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce:

“PIRACY, n. Commerce without its folly-swaddles, just as God made…”,

Breaking News. Apparently with the assistance of a virtual avalanche of Mormon voters, Mitt Romney defeated the other Republican candidates in the Nevada C*cka*sses. Competing candidates disappeared from the campaign. “It’s a Donner Party for Romney”, stated MSNBC pundit Tim Russert. “He’s eating the others alive! Things haven’t been this lopsided since I went on John Stewart! It’s clearly a huge win for Romney, after Michigan…it really sets him up for defeat in South Carolina!” Others attribute Romney’s victory to the candidates physically similarity to an animatronic one-armed bandit, thus beguiling many casino-addled “casino-Republicans” into supporting Romney because they thought he was bringing new “gaming” in the State.

Meanwhile, in the Republican Primary in South Carolina an unusually cold day lowered turnouts. “Our torches keep going out because of the cold and snow” said Karl K. Klinsmann. “This has to be something to do with those damn Yankees tryin’ to prevent us from flyin’ the Stars and Bars! That’s Unconstitutional…it says that right here in my Bible!” Klinsmann says he’s going to vote for Huckabee. “So’s my dog and my lady! That’s a joke, don’t write that down!”

But there seems to be some support for John McCain as well. Beaufort Pusser, a resident of Falootanaga, S.C. says that McCain is “more likely to defend our shores than Preacherman. Bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran! That’s what I say!” And there appears to be an upsurge of support for Fred Thomson, Tiffany Tara McMaster said “I like the way he talks, you can’t understand him, like a lot of my neighbors. that’s a plus. And I discovered that he was actually the boss of that New York DA guy that’s running, Rudy? I think I saw that on that TV show, Law & Order.”

During the primary season my mantra has been:

Strong progressive majority.

Strong progressive majority.

:-)

And he’s not a businessman; he’s a private equitist, or a corporate pirate.

AN ANIMATRONIC Pirate…with a hideaway in the Caribbean (Bahamas and the Grand Cayman Islands).

Obama boasted about his Chicago background recently I think in response to being tough. Unfortunately this is what that means - getting down and dirty. I will be interesting to see how the worm turns. If there is nothing to it let’s hope Fitzgerald can say that’s that and be done with it, rather than it turning into another Whitewater where there was nothing there.

“It’s a Donner Party for Romney”, stated MSNBC pundit Tim Russert. “He’s eating the others alive! Things haven’t been this lopsided since I went on John Stewart! It’s clearly a huge win for Romney, after Michigan…

Where does MSNBC get these assho**s?

I don’t think so. He was accused of being a liar, and he split hairs to claim that he was technically telling the truth. I doubt that was balanced out by the fact that the robot facade partially broke down. But in fact, I doubt that the story made any difference at all in Nevada.

The fight between Romney and the AP reporter that was heavily broadcast helped Romney. It made him appear more manly for getting mad and standing up for his foolish self.

Was that the incident where Romney kicked the photographer for trying to “capture his soul” while he was kneeling down for prayer?

Same place ABC gets theirs. They are all the same.

And he’s not a businessman; he’s a private equitist, or a corporate pirate. No business acumen required in the Main Street sense of the word. Just buy companies, lay off workers, break up the assets and sell them off.

Teddy, is there a difference between an arbitrager (?SP), a venture capitalist, and a private equitist (a term I don’t believe I’ve heard before)?

Geez, this sabattical stuff is doin’ somthing to me. I’m not really interested in any this. I think that’s not good but I’m not sure. Back to sabbatical.

CSPAN has Paul in 3rd place.

Romney at 50%!!!!!!!

Romney won Nevada Mormons, overwhelmingly. But he also won Catholic and Protestant caucusgoers, as well as Latinos and those who identified themselves at Republicans.

And as in Michigan last Tuesday, Romney won big among party regulars and staunch conservatives in Nevada. Republicans made up 84 percent of caucusgoers, and 53 percent of them supported Romney, 12 percent McCain and 11 percent Paul. Among “very conservative” voters (40 percent of the electorate), Romney won by nearly 4 to 1.

About a quarter of evangelical Christians went for Romney (33 percent), 22 percent for former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and 18 percent for Paul.

Top issues in the race: economy 38 percent, illegal immigration 34 percent, terrorism 12 percent and Iraq 10 percent. Romney won among each group.

I think it’s interesting that the WaPo head of polling thinks that 33 percent is “about a quarter.”

I made that up! Though given some of the stuff these guys say…

“Where does MSNBC get these assho**s?”

They surgically remove them from rattlesnakes.

You can say what you will about Romney and you may well be right, in fact, I think you are more right than wrong with your glib but rather too thin assessment of his business acumen, but this autumn with the country mired in a recession, I still contend he would pose our most difficult adversary.

Fundies won’t like Romney because they don’t support marriage between a man and a robot.

on msnbc, noron and chuck toad giggling at Bill Clinton for saying the union members were being intimidated by the union bosses…

how do these two know that isn’t happening? I’m guessing they don’t…

Do we know if Harry Reid voted for his fellow mormon?

I think it’s interesting that the WaPo head of polling thinks that 33 percent is “about a quarter.”

The dollar is down. A third is now a quarter. Same folks say 1+1=3. And Giuliani is still in the Republican race.

Sure you’re not thinking about this guy?

I don’t think Romney wins on pocketbook issues in the general election; as others have pointed out, his “business” experience consists entirely of downsizing and shipping jobs overseas, not creating them. And trying to paint himself as a “CEO president” just makes it easier to tie him to Bush. “Running government like a business” is a standard Republican brand; in the current climate it may help in the GOP primaries, but it’ll be poison in the general election.

I am thick as a bloody brick. Very good. But how was one supposed to know it was fiction?

An arbitrageur makes money on moving money, simply banking on international spreads. A venture capitalist provides seed-money startup companies. The first creates no jobs, unless you count his/her assistants. The second can create huge numbers of jobs.

A private equitist uses some of his money — and lots of money from others — to buy up companies “in trouble” and, in their words, “turn them around.” These turnarounds usually involve exporting jobs to low-wage countries, laying off American workers, breaking up the companies into smaller components and selling these components off to competitors, and disposing of hard assets like plant equipment, real estate, and fleets.

I invented the term private equitist, so you saw it here first, Ann.

Given the number of businesses laying folks off, the obscene bonuses Wall St is paying for failure and so on, Huckabee’s crack about people not wanting to vote for the guy who laid them off is and will be a devastating comment against Romney and his so-called business acumen.

2% of voting in for Nevada: Obama two, the others 0.

Also, Bill Clinton on tape saying he saw voter intimidation (WTF?)
both per TPM

Fundies won’t like Romney because they don’t support marriage between a man and a robot.

Speaking of which, is Star Trek TNG’s “7 of 9″ still a Republican?

“Running government like a business” is a standard Republican brand;”

And look how well it’s working out. Let’s hope they continue to run on that.

Given the number of businesses laying folks off, the obscene bonuses Wall St is paying for failure and so on, Huckabee’s crack about people not wanting to vote for the guy who laid them off is and will be a devastating comment against Romney and his so-called business acumen.

Yep. I didn’t think Huck had an ounce of clever in him. I’m certain he didn’t come up with the line, but he delivered it perfectly, and it will be back.

United States Equitist League Civil War Broadside, 1864

Fundies won’t like Romney because they don’t support marriage between a man and a robot.

Fundies won’t support Romney because they don’t support plural marriages between women and robots.

IIRC, private equity firms buy up publicly traded companies and part them out. In terms of market value, with corporations as with automobiles, the whole is often worth less than the sum of the parts.

Well, the thing that was pretty questionable was that Bill seemed to be saying that he had personally witnessed intimidation. The idea that the boss did it in front of a former president, and that he didn’t take any action other than talking about it on TV, seems pretty ludicrous, and suggests that he was just repeating a rumor for campaign purposes. (And unless you’re going to take official action for something real, repeating accusations of union intimidation is not good Democrats.)

Perhaps Huckster should propose an anti-robot marriage amendment. Help bring out the base.

seems like an awful big risk to take…

I know! Let’s ask Chelsea!

John Edwards getting his 15 seconds on MSNBC.

Your perspective on Romney’s business record certainly has some merit, but, frankly, I think it is more multi-faceted. Moreover, I expect, if he is the GOP’s nominee, that their propagandists will expose the public to a much different tale.

An interesting fact that I learned a couple of years ago is that, when European firms merge with and/or acquire U.S. firms, it’s the Americans that get canned even when there is no wage difference. Apparently, there are a lot more government protections for Eurpoean workers, making Americans easier to get rid of.

Who, exactly, does Romney appeal to? What do his supporters see in him? I see nothing, which is better than I see in the rest, but I just can’t figure out why people support him. What’s his appeal?

I sure dislike the ”don’t make it easy for union folks to vote” bit and the attacks on the unions as enforcing a vote of Obama … bad way to build our party

Well…on the “economic savior” front…Bloomberg is doing some rather odd things for a non-candidate.Bloomberg Consulting With Perots 3rd Party Advisor

Then there’s that stuff about him hanging out with Lance Armstrong in Texas…the State that he’d need to run in first.

I will no longer be a slightly jaded investment banker come June. I received and accepted an offer from a private equity/venture capital firm in Boston, so now I will be a slightly jaded private equitist. hmm.. that doesn’t sound right, how about slightly jaded corporate raider? slightly jaded financier? how about slightly jaded, but surprisingly enthusiastic venture capitalist? sounds good.

Monday March 20th 2006

The googles are at it again.

I really think he’s gonna run. I wish I could say the same for Gore :(

I agree. It is also stupid.

Holy Cow, with 19% in, Romney is killing the opposition.

Who, exactly, does Romney appeal to? What do his supporters see in him?

White? Check
Wealthy? Check
Male? Check
Married, with children? Check
Middle-aged? Check
Christian? Close enough. Check

The perfect Republican candidate.

The other numbers are interesting, too. McC and Paul tied at 12%, Huck and Tommy tied at 8% and our very own Julie at 4% !

That’s all of them.

I don’t doubt they’ll try to manufacture the appearance of a positive business record for him, but I don’t see how he’s multi-faceted. Other than running the Olympics, his entire business experience is Bain and Bain Capital. “My father was an auto executive” doesn’t cut it.

Whoever they nominate, they’ll try to make him look good. That’s not the question, the question is whether it’s easier for us to make him look bad than for them to make him look good, and in a foundering economy following a Republican administration, I don’t see making him look good as a particularly easy case to make.

This Cesars Palace thing is weird. Now, I understand what Bubba was talking about.

Most are the culinary workers - committed to Obama.
There are only 2 Edwards supporters in the room.

It is the results of this particular site that is being reported.

There are 8 other sites in Nevada, not reporting yet.

So, this is far from over.

Howdy, y’all!

Nevada is a real slug fest for the dems. Hillary and Obama are currently tied. The numbers are coming on quite frequently.
http://www.nvdems08.com/

I sure dislike the ”don’t make it easy for union folks to vote” bit and the attacks on the unions as enforcing a vote of Obama … bad way to build our party

I concur with the first part…but I don’t know what is happening at the Caucuses. Nevada is odd in that participants caucus and then vote elsewhere, in secret ballots. Could be embarassing if a Union steward didn’t “bring in the vote” at a particular polling site near where the caucus was held. In many Third World countries this is precisely the method used to manipulate voting.

I was also a bit upset at the “independent union group” that aired ads in Spanish that said that Hillary Clinton was holding back “La Raza”. In Spanish this term is very slippery and can either mean “our people” or “the race”. And the ad clearly played on that by not simply saying “the unions” or the “Culinary Workers”. Even John Edwards thought it was extreme and asked Obama for a renunciation of the ad.

Nevada Democratic Caucus Results

http://www.nvdems08.com/

With 7% reporting, Hillary at 47.46% Obama at 44.2% and Edwards at 6.52%

CNN (easier copy paste, but still at 3% reporting)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...../state/#NV

About Gore . . . my deepest, most fervent hope? Re-elect Gore in 2008.

See, by reporting only on the casino voters, we are not getting the full picture at all. Calling a winner based on this is really wrong.

Here are results from CPAN:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/f.....N=POLITICS

Bill Clinton, aka first guy, says he personally witnessed voter suppression in Vegas. How do you believe anything Bill Clinton says? Please advise.

I guess they are the same as CNN’s.

The Nevada cite seems to be swamped. You can also get results as they come in from here http://www.politico.com/nvcaucuses/index.html

I don’t know what he saw or didn’t see.

Do you really thinks thats the reason?
It would cost their money backers to much of their precious money…this admin is just enablers for the greedy bastards!

the caucus seen on CNN live sure doesn’t look like people are intimidated …

You all know that there are reports of machines not working is SC? Voters being told to come back later.
Nothing works under BushCo. Nothing. Can’t be an accident.

seems unlikely with tv cameras there that that would be possible… I would imagine that at the other caucuses people will have their cell phone cameras at the ready so if there is any funny business, it can be recorded…

Government is the problem! Drown it in the bathtub!