In case you didn’t know, Bill O’Reilly mocked John Edwards’ plea for homeless veterans the other night, basically denying their existence.
I realize that a fundamental principle of conservatism these days is to ignore facts that contradict ideological biases, regardless of empirical evidence, so I doubt this video will actually change O’Reilly’s mind about anything. Just a buncha phony soldiers.
But for the rest of us, it’s another sickening example of how little use the Bush administration has for our veterans when they’re not serving as wallpaper for a W. photo-op.



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hiya BT!
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Bill O’Reilly mocked John Edwards’ plea for homeless veterans the other night, basically denying their existence.
Feh. (turns head and spits)
Hi there Blue Texan!
Howdy all.
SUPPORT DA TROOPS! Till ya can’t use them as cannon fodder anymore. Then FUCKEM! How VERY repugnantklan of OLielly. By the way BillO, how’s that out of court settlement doin? I LOVE being lectured by a sex offender!
Keith Olbermann has challenged OReilly on this
and offered to bet him that he is wrong
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0117.html
I tried to work falafel in, but I just couldn’t do it. That video is too depressing.
I was just getting ready to say that I think that, if he wasn’t already, Olbermann has driven BillO totally, bat-shit insane…
They are doing incredible work over there at BraveNewFilms!
I hope someone shoves this film up Bill O’reilly’s falafel.
My granny watches that ass. She knows I can’t stand him and she started to say something to me about him yesterday and all I had to do was give her, “The Look”.
Nevermind, she say’s.
Does anyone know if Media Matters is looking into this? Seems like a good project for them, hot off the success they had in bringing attention to Tweety.
Maybe not on the streets of BillDo’s gated estate. But if you happen to stroll through the areas fringing the Central Business District of any American city you’ll find scores of them. Many of these guys are “intermittantly” homeless, getting temporary housing and jobs…others are chronic. In Sacramento there is a biennial meeting out near the homeless camps that is designed to assist homeless and impoverished Veterans, and the organizations often find their resources swamped. There is no small number of former Servicemen who lack health services, housing, jobs, and other basic needs.
I wish there was someone who could confront OLielly in person on this
do that thing he does to others…..
Just looking at his face puts me in the stroke zone.
You know, his whole, “there’s not that many thing” reminded me of an SNL skit where he keeps insisting New York is the biggest state and that NYC is the capital. Hilarious.
Just totally fact-free analysis/worldview.
I just wanted to show I could get the falafel in with taste…
Hi BT,
Sorry to go OT, but Huck plays the race card:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..82199.html
Huck knows he’s a spoiler, so he’s gonna screw McCain every chance he gets, I guess.
Just looking at his face puts me in the stroke zone.
Over the past few years, I’ve developed a problem with blood pressure.
Just a coincidence, I’m sure…
Has anyone heard whether any of the veterans groups have a plan to… *choosing my words carefully here*… correct the twit’s misperceptions about the plight of their homeless brothers/sisters?
Here are some sites about the issue of Homeless and Jobless Veterans. I don’t expect, of course, that any of Bill D’O’s listeners to give a f*ck.
VA’s 33cents to Homeless Vets
Sacramento Stand Down
Crooks and Liars had a link to a petition at the end of their post on this earlier. Sorry, at work and no time to dig out linky…
The petition was from IAVA… I think Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America?
calling Jon Soltz and Paul Reickhoff…
*As if* BillO would have the balls to have either of them on w/regard to this question…
I hear ya.
So I’ll help out and work this “in,” depending on what your definition of “in” is.
O’Vibrator in his own words:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a…..ris14.html
(Adult language. True, but adult nontheless).
There’s a mini restaurant chain in Minneapolis-St. Paul called Mr. Falafel… And another called Falafel King…
Add to the veterans homeless problem that of the many suicides of vets returning from the nightmare of Iraq.
Link to CBS news article: Suicide Epidemic Among Veterans
“In 2005, for example, in just those 45 states, there were at least 6,256 suicides among those who served in the armed forces. That’s 120 each and every week, in just one year.”
I apologize for this EPU, but I think it is important information to know right now:
“Blackwater was founded in 1997 by Erik Prince, a former US Navy SEAL and right-wing fundamentalist Christian from Michigan. Prince’s father is Edgar Prince, who founded the Family Research Council with Gary Bauer. Erik Prince’s sister is Betty DeVos, who is married to Dick DeVos, the son of Amway co-founder and Mormon bigwig Richard DeVos. The General Counsel for Erik Prince’s Blackwater parent company, the Prince Group, is Joseph Schmitz, the Pentagon’s former Inspector General. Schmitz’s brother, John Schmitz, Jr. deputy counsel to George H. W. Bush and who is married to the sister of Columba Bush, Jeb Bush’s wife. The father of John and Joseph was extreme right-wing Republican Congressman John Schmitz, Sr. Their sister is Mary Kay Letourneau, a former Washington State schoolteacher jailed for having sex with a thirteen year old American Samoan student who she later married.
Safely ensconced in North Carolina and flush with money as a result of Pentagon contracts ensured by Joseph Schmitz and the Bush family, Blackwater began to expand nationally. Using stealth and guile, the company targeted small communities in order to establish regional military training centers.”
http://www.bigbrassblog.com/index.php?itemid=1146
Now, that might explain a Mitt/Jeb ticket or a Jeb placeholder of some kind….via Mormon DeVos…as well as the fact that Cofer Black (Blackwater) is Mitt’s advisor.
Scary shizzola people.
Oh yea. Isn’t that right next to USA Loofah?
I can’t believe it would be that hard to get a bunch of homeless vets together and meet outside Fox studios.
They could get some great news coverage and point out the stupidity and cluelessness of O’Reilly and his ilk.
But the Dems are too passive to do this…you can believe that if Republicans were on the right side of this issue they would manage to round up hundreds of homeless vets to parade around…
I believe Olberman’s smack down of Falafel boy on this last night was with one of the IAVA members. Reickhoff I believe it was.
Me too. Yeah, totally coincidental, I’m sure….
There’s a mini restaurant chain in Minneapolis-St. Paul called Mr. Falafel… And another called Falafel King…
hmmm, sounds like the perfect photo-op setting for somebody with a sign/message to BillO….
There are also tons of vets that live up in the mountains as hermits who’ve dropped out of society…
Paul Reichkoff was on KO last night. He said you can just look right outside the studio window and find a couple of vets, if one cares to look. The interview was very good.
I have no idea what Billo can possibly gain from spewing the crazy on this. Just baffling.
The existence of homeless Vets is an inconvenient fact to Falafel O’Loofah. To him anyone who might vote Democrat or oppose the powers that be/status quo are to be punished or ignored. As long as you are his ideological soulmate, you are OK. Or his supplier of Falafel or Loofahs.
OT But the DCCC has just announced their first “tranche” of where hey intend to put funding in order to “change the direction” of the House.
On their list I see only one progressive…Charlie Brown in California. They may have decided on that race before Doolittle dropped out. There’s also a “potential” promise of funding for a takeover of Denny Hastert’s old seat…but they have indicated that they support Bill Foster, rather than Jim Laesch in the Primary there. That’s despite Laesch’s very successful campaign against a well funded and entrenched Speaker in the last Congressional race. Odd that they don’t support the guy who demonstrated that Hastert was vulnerable…to the degree that Hastert resigned.
Otherwise not a Blue America candidate amongst the litter. I think that’s where I’m going to divvy up my “tax rebate” over the next few months.
DCCC Funding for Congressional Races
In addition to this outrage, many vets and friends have been calling the talk shows on Air America in response to BillO, telling stories about vets in VA limbo, the govt indian giving on their enlistment bonuses if they get injured, and more BS. It’s fricking awful. Another one called in and explain a little about the accounting of “deployables” and Rumsfeld’s tasty little quote about troops are “fungible”. F’ing monsters, this entire administration. I cannot believe what we are witnessing and esconcing.
I can’t think of a better “stimulus package” than to elect Democrats!
Mr. O’Lie-ly: We count more than 4,000 homeless veterans here in Vegas. I do pro bono stuff for US Vets, the organization that helps them. 4,000+ in one city, asshole.
He was thinking of the Bush family. They are neither homeless nor veterans.
OT Huffpost is reporting that Huck wants the Confederate Flag to fly! Is he trying to make Obama supporter.
OK I took a breath.
I’m glad that stupid fathead is blowing hard. IT might put Iraq and Canada’s Torture Watch List up front and center and remind people of what a disaster the last seven years have been. the GOP will not save you. They’ll push you over the edge and then sell you a frayed rope to get out.
I don’t blame any of ‘em turning away from society. Everything in the states is so Disneyland compared to Iraq. Even the politicians might as well be Mickey Mouse and Goofey. Only few are pushing for the end to the occupation. The rest are very silent, as if hoping the whole situation to go away is enough….
Mod I meant to say is Huck trying to make Obama president? Sorry I was distracted
I spent a couple of years living like a Mountain man in a State park in Alaska to just get away from everything and everybody when I got back from VN. I trusted No one and nothing. The ONLY people I trusted as far as I could trust anyone were a couple of other vets who were living on their own there too. I WANT ver badly to meet this chickenshit, chickenhawk in an airport or train station some day. This coward talks big when he’s trying to intimidate a woman he sexually harrassed, let him try it with me or any other vet. That this chickenshit chickenhawk and Rush Limpwithnoballs have an audience after dissing vets and active duty soldiers is a DISGRACE. Remember ol pimple on his ass Limpwithnoballs and his “phony soldiers” comment. America, you should be ASHAMED of yourselves that you put one CENT in these cowards pockets.
OT Huffpost is reporting that Huck wants the Confederate Flag to fly!
Message to Huck – “When one finds oneself in a hole, it is wise to stop digging.”
Pretty sure I read that entire thread but will check to see if it’s a different one. Tks!
Also saw the KO piece last night but don’t remember discussion of any specific planned action against BO. The dims may well be too “passive” to take any action but I seriously misdoubt irate veterans would have that particular problem. ;-)
Hi S,
You are not alone.Many vets were offering the same challenge on AA last night. BO is a coward.
Thanks! That actully hadn’t occurred to me. I’ll get to work on it…
Jeez, and I remember reading on the web a while back that Romney had the support of the corrupt neo-con GOP pioneer and grocery store zillionaire who was Bush’s ambassador to Italy when the yellow cake forgery went down.
Glad to meet you. There are some other Vietnam vets here, so stick around.
OT Huffpost is reporting that Huck wants the Confederate Flag to fly!
does the Huckster have an official campaign song?
May I suggest “Lunatic Fringe”?
My 50 was a response to LS above at 27.
Umm, he’s only digging a hole with rational people. For his base, on the other hand, the confederate flag comment will just make him more loved.
OT Huffpost is reporting that Huck wants the Confederate Flag to fly!
It is the flag of the Republic Party.
I believe the Ron Paul campaign has claimed that one already.
Saw a poll this morning (SurveyUSA, I think) that has McCain leading Huck by 3 points but the most amazing thing is that Mitt and Thompson were TIED for third! When did Dead Fred actually get into this and has Julie Ani totally faded? Just laughing…..
Ron and the Paulites are upright citizens compared the nitwits, theocons, warmongers and malcontents of the current Republican mob.
-G
I think it’s gotten worse – I’m trying to find the quote, but it looks like Bill’s now saying “Hey, I didn’t say there weren’t any homeless vets – but the ones that *are* homeless just refuse to get a job or are drug addicts”.
I wish I had kept the link this morning, but –
Got it! Pretty sure – I can’t see it at work, but here’s the clip of O’Reilly now accusing all homeless vets of just being crazy and/or drug abusers who refuse to get a job:
http://youtube.com/?v=E477B7jyHIs
Hope it works
For the past 20 odd years I have been a part of the Denver V.A. Hospital system. Most of it was for physical stuff but some for alcohol abuse.
A recent relapse brought me back in Oct for the first time in 5 years.
The effort by the hospital to find temporary shelter has risen dramatically.
The change is the profile. It is no longer dominated by vets in our 40’s 50′ and yes 60’s….but a significant number 35 and below. What cannot be lost is these vets are a part of the volunteer force so their numbers should not be this high.
Denver is not a big place so if the numbers are high here, 200,000 is a low ball figure.
(note: I am doing fine, so many others are not)
Hope all you vets will stay with us and keep us posted about what’s going on. We need to know so that we can push Congress hard on this. Thanks for being here.
Mr. Bill after KO is done with him.
http://www.dahothouse.com/media/Mr.Bill.jpg
addendum..my time of service was 69-72..I did not start using the V.A. until mid-80’s
some info
http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm
OT – KO has an apology up at Kos for putting on Lawrence O’Donnell on after the Edwards put down at Huff. http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..392/438962
I still say (with absolutely no evidence) that O’Donnell in saying that Edwards should drop out so Obama could win the south was doing the bidding of the Clintons, by getting the Edwards people mad at Obama and vice-versa, so that they would knock each other out. Typical sort of Rovian triangulation.
OT – KO has an apology up at Kos for putting on Lawrence O’Donnell on after the Edwards put down
Oooh – that’s gonna leave a mark on O’Donnell.
I hope.
Keith O’s response
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nbe…..re=related
Take care all, ironically I am off for a V.A. appointment for a new brace.
Peace/Dance/Resist
Raven for one…
Good for him. I was wondering how he would respond to that…
My feeling precisely. The guy has class – and smarts!
Was that piece he did the other day (1500+ hits) the first time KO had posted at Kos? Kinda got that impression from some “Yes, it’s the real Keith” note that went along with it.
I don’t know, but it seemed like that from the things said in the comments.
Stocks down again some 300 points, following Bush’s presser. Confidence much?!
I also am a veteran. Here in central Tx there is a very close relationship between bikers and veterans. Yes, those kind of bikers. There are also a number of veteran motorcycle clubs. I would love to see bill o’shithead down here with some of us biker/vet brothers. Just to chat you understand.
That John King (apropos Blue Texan’s post on him a few days ago). CNN incest:
CTuttle, Norskeflamethrower for others.
-G
Boy George sure knows how to settle the markets with his twitchy hand.
Perfect for each other….
I’m sure Glenn’s wedding invitation is in the mail.
Boy George sure knows how to settle the markets with his twitchy hand
Harvard MBA at work! He continues to make the University proud.
Too bad we can’t “spotlight” this particular statistic in to Nancy. I’m sure it would fit right in with her latest life style.
Do I sound too cynical?
Jane is upstairs!!
Here in SE Ohio too, lots of biker/veterans. Every summer our town has a huge biker rally, very nice to see so many friendly people.
Both Ron Paul and John Edwards know economics and could best cope with our Recession.
The rest live in a parallel universe of talk vs substance.
Damn, sorry I missed this one! I don’t think CT is a Nam vet, Vet for sure but he’s a little younger. Scarecrow is and he mostly keeps it to himself. We seem to have lost Jonathon and James, Richard DeBerry stops in now and then.