hi Jane!

Jane in a plane!

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m really psyched about maybe seeing Lieberman lose again. Go McCain!

Jane, you blogging FROM the plane? cool! Or did you put the post on a timer before you took off?

hey CTBob

I don’t think you’re supposed to think about that last one at all. Pretty soon, you’ll start ranting and shouting and waving your arms around vigorously, and the next thing you know, those nice folks from the TSA at the Phoenix airport will take you to a little room to cool off a bit.

Wouldn’t want to miss your flight to LA . . . ’cause it’s NOT a short ride from Phoenix.

hey Suzanne!

Jane!

I’m sure Howie will fill you in, as to what you missed. ;)

xxoo

EPU’d dang it.

http://www.dahothouse.com/media/Blue_Dress.jpg

Jane in a plane, not a train, with a train? Speaking of the second train, here’s Jonah Goldberg in a Blue Dress, with a train, courtesy of marymccurnin, EPUd from downstairs.
http://www.dahothouse.com/media/Blue_Dress.jpg

Ahh, Phoenix! Big wave to Jane and even a blown kiss from Hillsboro, TX.

Eeer, A McClooserman ticket?? Serious? My mind boggles!

Jane, re Russ Feingold:

On health care

It’s the No. 1 domestic issue that’s brought up at the town meetings. Lindsay Graham, who’s a senator from South Carolina, and I have come together on a proposal. I support universal health care for all Americans. He doesn’t, necessarily. But we agree that we ought to have a commission that allows three or four states to win a competition to become pilot projects to show their vision of how they can move toward universal coverage in their state.

For some, it might be a single-payer state, it might be an employer coalition, co-op type of approach. He says health savings accounts; I’m skeptical of it. But the idea is that we would actually have some evidence on the ground of what works and what doesn’t.

Hillary’s latest ads here talk soothingly about getting everyone “the health care coverage they need.” [emphasis mine}

Not health care — “coverage.” That’s a transparent — and useless — sop to the insurance industry.

OFG! long time no see

Now if they don’t click on it, after 2 links, they’re really lazy.

I was always in favor of the line-item veto - until about 2002.

However, having learned a hard lesson about bad presidents, I now say - Nuh-uh.

or chicken

I don’t understand the line items veto thingie in terms of neg or pos. I always thought is was a suckie idea but Feingold is my main man.

You see it, lazy, or chicken?

Goin’ nuts out here in the ‘patch. Bought any gas lately? Ya’ think it’ll ever get so expensive they can’t afford to drill for it?

Yeah, that’s irony.

Hiya y’all!

I wrote a cool post today about there being no media coverage of Huckabee’s saying we should ditch the constitution and get a theocracy.

cautious?

Excuses, excuses.

Jane appreciate the Feingold linkerage.

Just ‘plane’ great.

Hillary, on the other hand somehow manages to impress me less almost every single day. I find her ‘pragmatism’ depressing and her continuing ’support’ of Lieberman unconscionable; she is one of his primary enablers, in my view.

As an aside, Jane, and only because I’m curious, how many air-miles do you have to deal with over a year’s time? It must be exhausting, considering that you are always ‘on’ for so many of us. Appreciate you much.

Essentially the line item veto arrogates to the president the authority to legislate funding — which, constitutionally, is not his gig.

A line item veto gives too much power to the President. Bad idea.

imho, it would be a great way for a good president to cut out a lot of crap - OR - an equally good way for a bad president to cut out a lot of good things.

Man-Dog Marriage.

The Clear and Present Danger.

Woooof!!

Hello BobbyG. Yeah, what he said.

double gloving - it does involve doughy and a dress…

Line item veto sounds splendid for this era of the Unitary Executive.

OilFeildGuy!!!

Hello!

just imagine how dangerous boosh would be if, instead of vetoing, he could just draw a line through what he did not like and then sign the legislation.

Yeah, sustain my veto or I’ll use my crayons on anything for your state.

Hillary thinks its really important that we continue that. That is: playing Joe Lieberman’s game of Independent Democrat. Scuse me? Lieberman shoulda gone under Ned Lamont’s bus a long time ago. But, No. He hangs around like a bad tooth. Best thing Short Ride could do for us is veep with the creep. Two warmongering dickhe*ds pimping a war that everyone hates.

I am not allowed to use AlterNet or TPM or the blogs as sources for weekly “current events in politics” assignments.

Why not? Does your school think they aren’t reliable? Maybe an extra credit project to show how much better they are than MSM, like Josh’s revealing USAtty firing story long before MSM caught on, and that his dogged pursuit of it was what made the MSM focus on it.

Shit. Stop procrastinating & just look. You need a laugh.

If you don’t have anything nice to say about Lieberman then come sit by me.

I only have one more week at this school anyway, so it doesn’t matter.

just imagine how dangerous boosh would be if, instead of vetoing, he could just draw a line through what he did not like and then sign the legislation.

Yep. Like oversight… oh, wait - isn’t that what signing statements are for?

Don’t make any sudden moves in the Phoenix airport there Jane…..

Here’s what you missed….. Bill Clinton has lost all respect from me for going the LV voting meltdown he had.

I keep telling you all that hillary will have joe l. as a running mate. You wait and see. Her and john mccain will be fighting over him!

So far as I can tell the 4th democratic candidate, the MSM, is winning hands down!

That’s what you missed…. :-) Now, just move along quietly to your gate, don’t ask questions, don’t be late and you’ll be just fine there at sky harbor. Maybe…..

:-)

zactly.

Or if Congress were to ever, say, send him a military budget with timelines to get of Iraq, one part he’d take - the other he’d veto. Not hard to figure out which is which.

Well, in that case, seems like you could compose a good parting shot to expand small minds.

But why are you changing schools mid-year?

I don’t think about lieberman until a half hour after eating.

Line item veto?
Are you CRAZY?
I shouldn’t even have to try and comprehend the fact that came from Fiengold.
Why not just shutter the Halls of Congress and build a giant throne?

Get serious.

ewwwwwwwww

Why even bother with line item veto now. The asshole in chief would rather use his double secret signing statement pen.

Set down your beverage first. Then get a towel ready, in case you knock the table hard enough to spill it anyway.

Cause I am moving to El Paso and my school now is in Austin.

That gets directed to marymccurrin. I’m just pimping for her.

My spew warning was evidently too late.

Sorry about that.

That was cassie there in 48. now shooing her back over to the desk!

ooooopppssss

Howdy Jane! Pups! Long time no speak!

Jane - what’s up in LA?

As for what to think of Holy Joe stumping for St. John, I’d think that would be - what’s the word I’m looking for - counterproductive?

so it doesn’t matter.
Wrong-o, young lady. You keep going right across the finish line of that school…you’re not only learning these days, you’re teaching yourself knowledge and process. Both matter.

I guess Jonah is right. We are not a serious group.

pimping is just another version of supply side economics

Aha. So, are you still going to Netroots Nation? BTW, you have email.

I imagine we’ll all be at Netroots Nation in one form or other. I will be there as media, doing coverage for Head On Radio and I am hoping that the kids will be there as volunteers and/or bloggers.

Oy, I don’t believe in supply side economics. Does that mean I can’t pimp anymore, even when I believe in the cause?

UnitedHollywood and the WGA folks generally like the DGA deal — and the moguls have opened channels to the WGA, saying the same deal is on the table.

http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/

Snarky, I found an actual newspaper with a bit about Huckabee. Hope it’s good enough.
Link

I don’t understand the line items veto thingie in terms of neg or pos. I always thought is was a suckie idea but Feingold is my main man.

My feelings were just the reverse; I used to think the line item veto was a good thing, but when Bush came along, I began to see the error of my ways. It seems to me that our only chance with him was to cram something down his throat along with something he wants. Hasn’t this already happened?

If either Feingold and Lindsey Graham care to know about what’s effed-up about health savings accounts, I’m prepared to give ‘em an ear-full. And then some from the front lines.

Yes I am going to keep learning. I am even doing a science fair project. But I don’t think I am going to convince my teacher that all these sources she’s never heard of know more than the New York Times or the Houston Chronicle.

As for what to think of Holy Joe stumping for St. John, I’d think that would be - what’s the word I’m looking for - counterproductive?

Hardly seems strong enough.

“Suicidal” has a nice ring to it.

sorry, bad attempt at humor

Cool !!! It is perfect!

On that, I understand your frustration. But don’t let it get in your way. Go have fun with the news function in Google using Advanced Search. You’ll be able to narrow down quickly to the info you need. And learn a useful new tool in the process.

eureka springs knows of newspapers in ar that have lots of huckabee stuff - he is my go to guy for that kinda info

Jane: Safe travels. On today, I think Bill Clinton has lost it (you need to see the presser). He is seriously angry about Nevada. I think he will be seen increasingly as a liability. Also, it seems as if he is preparing Hill’s supporters for a loss there. (Basically by saying that it was not fair). Sour grapes about losing - and about the union folks - is not going to help them much down the road.

Its hard out here for a supply sider.

I’d be right there with you! So many of my patients have to deal with them too! It’s insane!

I’m not convinced he wants her to win.

Good! Let me tell you how I found it, in case you need to do this kind of thing again.
I typed in Huckabee AND Constitution into Google. Click “News” when the Google page gives you Web results, and the new results should all be primarily from newspapers/magazines instead of online sources.

Margot I updated my post and now I am going to turn my post into my current events paper in the next 28 minutes! Night y’all. No time to dive. Gotta go show my teacher I am right!

Jane in a plane!

Does this make her a plane Jane?

There is an interesting article up at the Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01.....=1&hp

about a civil suit by a Steven Howards who was arrested for assault after criticizing Cheney in 2006. Apparently the Secret Service engaged in a coverup of the incident since the agents’ stories are all over the place.

Its hard out here for a supply sider.

Not yet. But with any luck, it soon will be.

I thought it was funny. sorta :P

Uhh, Russ, I’m mighty disappointed with ya… WTF is this:

“Here’s 10 things. I want you to vote on these as a package.” Congress would be required to vote on it.

If ya hadn’t noticed the earmarks have sky rocketed from 130+ during Clinton, to over 4,000+ under Shrub… WTF will 10 or 20, or even 50 accomplish…?

Health savings accounts are a swell idea for Joe and Jane Sixpack to invest in while they are try to avoid foreclosure. All that extra cash laying around taking up space in the closet. /s

Health savings accounts would allow health care service and drug prices to rise to offset any perceived benefit from the saved funds.

Health savings accounts are like Bushco tax cuts. They only benefit the wealthy.

Well, I was trying for some British understatement.

hey hugh, i’ve got that one all set to go next into the news ticker.

do coverups about the scandals get their own # on your list?

If you had $500 to spend on a computer for a HS student, would you try for something new? Refurbished? What? We already have router and printer.

Last nite you may have left the thread before you saw some suggestions on a pc/mac to get for your daughter for school.

I suggested this

and left you some Dell links for your price-range or slightly higher. I’d either get a refurbed Mac by googling those words but they are going to cost more (reliable but somewhat higher than your figure) or watch the Dell links I gave you for about 5 days because they discount all the time but keep it running for a couple days.

Those laptops if she wants a Windows box will be just fine, unless she’s using some atypically intensive graphics programs for someone starting college.

McCain & Lieberman slogans:

“On most days, *one* of us is bound to be awake.”

Or:

“We solemnly pledge that, for the good of the American People, we will *never* take our naps at the same time!”

That’s the spirit!

If either Feingold and Lindsey Graham care to know about what’s effed-up about health savings accounts, I’m prepared to give ‘em an ear-full. And then some from the front lines.

Are those as screwed up an idea as I think they are? I spent a few hours in the ER one time, had several tests and xrays, got diagnosed with bronchitis and got a bill for almost $5K! Would a health savings account have helped me in that situation?

I only have one more week at this school anyway, so it doesn’t matter.

Maybe that nifty journalism program you’re going into will have a more broad-minded view of new forms of media, like the blogosphere.

Well, I was trying for some British understatement.

Oh.

Subtlety is not one of my stronger suits…

Yes. If you had $5000.00 in your account.

The ONLY thing that is going to work for health care reform is single payer, universal health care. The fucking insurance companies can go fuck themselves. They have thousands of deaths on their hands. So do the hospitals for overcharging. So do the docs for not standing up for what is right.

Very interesting. I had an alpha husband once, who had an abitious wife (me).

eureka springs knows of newspapers in ar that have lots of huckabee stuff - he is my go to guy for that kinda info

Its hard out here for a supply sider.

On the other hand, a supply of cider would be welcome.

Oh, and tweety apologized for being a sexist. I don’t know when he did it, but I just found out about it this afternoon. Somebody probably posted it.

hard cider

sorry, steve-ar - no slight intended.

Thanks Pete. We’re talking middle of 10th grade, not college yet. Besides, it was time to sell another one of my mom’s bracelets anyway. We now have a reasonable budget for a new machine.

Now, OFG,
Didn’t Alice Roosevelt Longworth have that on a needlepoint pillow?

It was a stupid semi apology.

Either their own entry or added on to the original scandal. Whichever fits better.

and he was drooling again. He must go to the dentist a lot cause he is foul mouthed.

Sounded a lot like, “It’s too bad you all mistook what I meant…”

Thanks, Margot, I didn’t know the “news” trick either.

Sh*t pushed the wrong F***ing button..

eureka springs knows of newspapers in ar that have lots of huckabee stuff - he is my go to guy for that kinda info

If you want the “dirt” on the Huckster, a good place to start is the Arkansas Times..The Weekly Lefty “Rag”

Ernest Dumas columns are a good place to go first:

link

On today, I think Bill Clinton has lost it (you need to see the presser). He is seriously angry about Nevada.

Yep. He looked bad. Very un-Presidential. He came across as a bully.

*How* long, now, has he been traveling with Hillary? This is a couple which apparently needs a lot of space between them, and frequently.

Christy had a whole thread devoted to Tweety’s non-apology apology…!

So they are as screwed up as I thought. One calamity and you are as sunk as can be. My first thought when they were first mentioned as a sort of substitute for insurance was that it was nuts. Nuckin’ futs, in fact.

Yeah. I do think that, possibly unconsciously, the Big Dog is sabotaging her. I think things may be just a little strained in the Clinton household.

It was all