President Bush was in Saudi Arabia yesterday to pursue the linchpin of his Administration’s energy policy: He asked the Saudis to produce more oil. Roughly translated, the Saudis said, "No. We will do it only if it’s in our interest, not yours."
As Hillary Clinton noted in last night’s Democratic debate, Bush has been reduced to pathetically begging the Saudis to sell us more oil at nearly $100 per barrel. The image is even uglier when one realizes that some portion of that record price may consist of risk premia caused by the Administration’s own war mongering, including pumping up an obviously ambiguous naval incident with Iran, another of the world’s largest oil producers.
At the same time, Secretary Rice showed up in Baghdad, ostensibly to take credit for the Iraqi Parliament’s approval of a law that, according to some Iraqis, does not go far enough in undoing the damage Jerry Bremer, Bush’s hand picked proconsul, caused in banning Baathists from the Iraqi government. Instead of reconciling, the Iraqis are now arguing whether the new law includes or excludes more Sunnis from government.
But acknowledging such truths in not Rice’s trade, and the law probably wasn’t her main focus anyway. More likely, Rice was in Baghdad to press al Maliki’s government to get Parliament to pass the oil law, which the Administration hopes will give US oil firms privileged access to develop Iraq’s oil resources.
Under Bush/Cheney, US strategic energy policy thus consists of (1) selling the Saudis advanced weapons and arming, funding and protecting an 80,000 man Sunni militia in Iraq in exchange for the possibility of more oil from repressive dictatorships; (2) repeatedly threatening war against the next largest oil producer, Iran; and (3) maintaining an indefinite occupation that costs us $9 billion a month to preserve future access to Iraqi reserves. It would be hard to imagine a more irresponsible and costly strategic policy, nor one that endangers our security interests more, even if you don’t count the cost in lives.
Indefinite wars and forcing America to buy oil at $90-$100/bbl while billions flow out of the country every month instead of into alternative energy development are what John McCain and Joe Lieberman are touting as a "success." Indeed, all the Republican nominees seem convinced they can safely run on their consistent support of Bush’s Middle East ventures, while they undermine prospects for an economic stimulus here.
But Americans can see those policies have a direct, negative impact on the economy, just as the economy becomes a major issue for voters. If Republicans assume they can separate Bush’s catastrophic foreign polices from the damage those policies are doing to the US economy, they’re in for a surprise.
Update: C&L has more on economic views from NBC’s Michigan Exit Polls. Update II: Scholars and Rogues calculates some of the economic opportunity costs of the Iraq occupation, following this WaPo op ed by Harold Meyerson. We can stay in Iraq, or we can . . . you name it.
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Thanks you sir, may I have another?
Please, sir, may I have some more?
Good Morning Scarecrow!
If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?!
Good morning, Scarecrow and pups. Can Bush unilaterally sell $20 billion in military goodies to the Saudis, or does Congress have to approve this?
It’s staggering how little vision it would take to get Americans to conserve a little. Although, I wonder how high gas prices will have to get before the price becomes the incentive.
Remember the Republicans a couple years ago screaming that a gas tax would cripple the economy. I don’t think any of the taxes that were floated would have put prices anywhere near where they are today. What a bunch of idiots.
Great point.
I’ll be bringing that up next time I end up in a conversation with a wingnut, since this is one of the only arguments they know and will use it for any future tax increases as well.
According to this Scientific American article, for $400 billion:
We’ve already spent more than twice that amount attempting to steal Iraq’s oil, which will run out before 2050. Insoucient greed is immanentizing the eschaton.
JimWhite and Bonkers — yep; very clever, only Bush isn’t Oliver.
Good morning everyone.
Loo Hoo — usually requires Congressional approval, and Congress almost always approves.
Doing business with America’s enemy is a Bush family & friends specialty.
How many days to go?
It’s now 3-7-0!
Now that the Saudis know that we will pay $100/bbl and $3/gal, what incentive do they have to take steps necessary to lower prices? None.
Oh, but putting more oil into our reserves and charging the American people for it has been a splendid finance practice for the Oil Maggots! See? We are good Americans to be helping them out. Spit.
Most Astonishing Comment… Ever!
I sometimes chide myself for being a bit long-winded here in the comments corral. Try as I might though, I’ve never, ever come close to the voluminous essay that accomplishes this brief article on Antarctic melting. Check out the third comment down by “Ike Key”. The amazing thing is that the fellow is actually a brilliant writer with something important to say. He needs a better venue, methinks.
you have to admit he’s twisted, though
We’ve heard all of the anguish over the prospect of Pakistan’s nukes falling into the wrong hands because of the instability of the government. Why is it good policy to give $30 billion in advanced weaponry (granted, not nukes, but much more likely to be used if stolen) to a government that also is seen to be at risk? Why isn’t there a massive push-back on this?
I agree. We can’t get a higher gas/oil tax to pay for alternative energy development, create jobs here, encourage more efficient fuel use (and purchases of higher mileage vehicles), while cycling petro dollars here. Intead, we have an “oil tax” in the form of higher world oil prices, which allocates the oil dollars to oil producers.
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Congressional approval is a mere formality. Everyone knows the game. This “sale” is a way for the U.S. to repatriate some of the cash dollars that are flowing out of the country to pay for energy. No one in Congress would dare try to stop this trade.
U.S. gas prices are artificially low. In Norway, for example, gas was nearly eight dollars per gallon six months ago: http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/2653
I just put 100 gallons of #2 heating oil in the tank and it cost me $334.90. Two months ago it cost $384 to put in 140 gallons. Must be nice to be an Oil Maggot just sitting back and doing nothing really but making a profit! Look out….a thunderstorm in the Mid West! It could drive up the prices even more. Spit.
How hard would it be to put some commercials on TV telling people to keep their tires properly inflated? That would save millions of gallons. Just mention stuff like that to Republicans and they’ll tell you that you’re trying to interfere with their freedom. Then in the same breath tell you how Government should be wiretapping your phones without a warrant.
wigwam,
WTF does “immanentizing the eschaton” mean?
I tried this website to understand, and got flummoxed because the author is using words in no dictionary known to me:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.c…..c_Myth.htm
And I do know how to use dictionaries: http://onelook.com/?w=immanentize&ls=a
HA!
I saw the picture of bush with the silly grin and scimitar. The reporter mentioned a “saber dance”. I don’t think there is such a thing and the Saudis were just having a little fun with the Decider. I’m afraid we may have to watch our President do the Ned Beatty scene in Deliverance before it’s all over.
here’s the answer to our oil problem;
1) make it illegal to sell american oil to anyone but america
2) re open the productive refineries the oil industry closed down
3) re open the Iraqi oil fields the administration allowed the oil industry to close down
4) re institure alternative energy programs with specific goals, put back the friggin solar panels that moron named ronlad took off the whitehouse roof and get everyone on board with wind and solar energy
there, problem solved, actually go for any of the 2 out of four and the problem is solved
Good morning Scarecrow.
Okay. Here’s my Post-Debate Post:
Democrats = +3, for burying the race issue and refusing to let Russert bait them
Russert = -4 for wasting everyone’s time
Brian Williams is a zero, for not turning over control to the audience
Rachel Maddow = 3 (she destroyed poor Pat Buchanan, and everyone was laughing at him by 12:30 p.m. or so)
Matthews = ??? tried to resurrect himself by praising HC; will it be enough
Clinton — another solid debate; attacks on Bush especially effective
Obama — perhaps his best debate ever; more involved and knowledgable
Edwards — also his best debate, but where did he go afterwards?
Another excellent night for Democrats.
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Not mine. ;’)
I was usefully occupied instead of wasting time on that blatherathon.
Weapons are just about the only export goods this Country has left that any oone desires. We make very, very good armaments.
‘morning all – coffee is ready…
are you saying John Edwards wasn’t available or that he wasn’t covered?
I only watched the debate on fdl.
Published on Thursday, March 6, 2003 by the Associated Press
Bush Blamed for Rise in Oil Prices
by H Joseph Hebert
WASHINGTON – President Bush’s decision after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to aggressively boost the federal emergency oil stockpile contributed to a huge decline in commercial oil stocks and caused energy prices to soar, says a study by Senate Democrats.
The report released yesterday said that the diversion last year of 40 million barrels of crude into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve required refiners to dip into their commercial inventories at a time when markets already were tight and production by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries was being reduced.
“We’re confident this had a significant impact on the price of oil in 2002,” Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the subcommittee and its chairman last year.
http://www.commondreams.org/he…..306-09.htm
I’d giver Russert -10 for embarrassing the audience with his mindless race-issue agenda/narrative, and the candidates each +10 for not physically attacking him.
Let’s be clear about Bush’s oil policy. It has one concern only. To make as much money for the oil companies and their contractors as is humanly possible. Bush and Cheney are the oil industry, right down to their bones. Remember, Cheney’s first scandal was that he let Enron and the other energy companies write the first energy bill.
Actually, it drives me crazy that more isn’t made about Bush’s connection with Ken Lay. But I guess it also drives me crazy that his connections with Jack Abramoff also got brushed aside. And his connections with the Saudi royal family are even now getting airbrushed out of the picture.
G’morning, Scarecrow. I have not watched any of the debates. Have yet to decide whether that’s a good or bad thing. Ergo, from my uninvolved perspective, it is all a circus. The whole presidential campaign appears to be an undignified media event. How cynical is that?!
BTW, today’s GWB Out of Office Countdown calendar quotes the Decider thusly:
“There’s no such thing as legacies. At least, there is a legacy, but I’ll never see it.” January 2001
I watched the debate and the commentary afterwards, up to the point where the consultants were to be interviewed. I saw it about like you did and was proud of all three candidates. Someone on last night’s thread said that Edwards elected to leave immediately after the debate in order to prepare for one of the morning shows today.
Oh thanks, I must have gone to bed by then
ACLU petition for Reid on telecom immunity.
Perhaps I missed him while writing this post. clinton and obama were seen down front, signing autographs for about a half hour or so after the debate. I didn’t see Edwards — but it’s possible MSNBC just wasn’t showing him, which wouldn’t be unusual. And see Crosstimbers at #37.
Meanwhile back at the chicken coop, the foxes say, “Safety Regulations! We don’t need no more stinkin’ safety regulations!”.
White House opposes mine safety bill
Hey! What are a few dead miners afterall?
ProfitFreedom is on the line!That man is freaking brilliant, huh?
OK, kiddies, it is time for your daily two-minute hate. Today’s object of revulsion and derision? The Clinton Campaign for attempting vote suppression in Nevada.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs…..pid=270622
And the big fat head tried to defend himself this morning on the Mr and Mrs Bickerson show. When he kept up that crap the candidates should have stood up and said they weren’t going to participate until he started asking real questions
pretty simplistic discussion of a much more complicated issue
are you suggesting that casino workers have more rights than school custodians
Truce, huh? Please throw away that Rove playbook.
Don’t forget billions of dollars for anyone who wants to have a little war machine going. Hey both sides get billions so please do blow stuff up and order more.
“Immanentizing the eschaton” (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I…..e_eschaton ) is a phrase that William F. Buckley made famous back in the 60s. Unfortunately, I forget the context, but it paired well with his more recent “insoucient greed.”
In Catholic theology, the eschaton is the end of the world, i.e., the last judgement. And “eschatology” is the study of the eschaton (as opposed to “scatology,” which is the study of turds).
I don’t understand the issues on this one, but someone yesterday pointed out that it would be problematic to conduct a caucus in the midst of employers, supervisors, etc..
My personal favorite part of the evening.
This is why we need to keep the GOP out of the White House. Too many buttons there . . .
rk mordord gets it right
It’s stunning to watch. The various spurts of venom aimed at Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are, at best, scattershot and convulsive, with only MSNBC’s Chris Matthews proving himself to be a consistent blowhard jackass in his relentless slamming of Hillary by claiming that she made it this far only due to adultery-survivor sympathy. Hey, Chris, 2001 called. It wants its sexist analysis back. Thank you.
The sexism that surrounds Clinton’s run like a toxic fog is almost too easy to spot. (Fox News is, naturally, fueling its entire 2008 programming schedule with it.) It is de facto, implied and inherent in the coverage of just about everything she does, and what’s most amazing is that people are still surprised that the sexism is there at all, much less so apparent and shameless. To which I can only reply: I’m sorry, did you somehow miss the past seven years of macho neocon hell
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..38;sc=1000
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??? I thought I was awake, but maybe not. Please elucidate the contention between the Culinary Union rank & file and the custodians. This is truly the first I’ve heard of this.
It also doesn’t really help the caucus goers from the smaller casinos who are still unable to get to the “at-large” caucus sites during their putative breaks
Indeed. And yet he was (arguably) re-elected in 2004. And that’s what scares me most. Roughly half of American voters thought he and his oil-slicked cronies should have another four years. This does not bode well for 2008. Just sayin’.
Oh for heaven’s sake, the wingnuts will just argue at these high “market” prices that a gasoline tax would be even more damaging to the economy. You can’t win with those people.
Hmmm, that reminds me of one of my favorite quips from H.L. Mencken…
“Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable in terms of the not worth knowing.”
As for Rice – nice thesis on USSR; umm your clueless policy along with your boss and complete lack of info on anything but stale Cold War lies not only screwed up the screwed up things we are doing – it also ass backwards brought Russia back in power (petro dollars) and influence (so now they are flying bombers, sending battle ships to Meddit, and joining eastern defense backs such as SCO).
DING!
custodians who open schools for caucus locations are not allowed to vote at those locations whereas casino workers can use any at large location.
That is rich.
I wonder how many good jobs 200 billion spent on Alt Energy would have created.
Thanks,now I remember. I think I might protest also, given that set of conditions.
Looks like Russert need some blood pressure medication to me. Guy looks like a walking heart attack.
Half the electorate is brain damaged.
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I had an uncle who fell on hard times and ended up late in life with a job as a school custodian. If he’s at all typical, I can suggest that he wouldn’t give a rat’s patootie about being able to “caucus” with the PTA. Not unless they served boilermakers.
For the kids he served, it was “GOAL!”. For Charlie, it was “SKOAL!”.
No kidding. Viet Nam Veterans Against McCain!!!
Caw, Caw, Scarecrow! Another fine analysis.
I was wondering if anyone knows if there are copies of the debates available on-line, either in transcript or video form?
I was also wondering if anyone knows the delegate count for the candidates, or where to find that information?
Oil prices are so high because Bush destroyed the value of a dollar. Oil prices will remain high, even if more oil is pumped, until the dollar regains value. That can’t happen until Bush and the Republics are gone.
Unfortunately, current Democratic leaders are determined to keep Republics in power.
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Try:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20…..orecard/#D
Superdelegates here:
http://demconwatch.blogspot.co…..-list.html
So they barred Dennis Kucinich from the debate last night. Sweet. That makes one down one to go for the DLC powers that be.
Does anyone really think Chimpy wants lower oil prices? The relationship with the House of Saud is really costing us, IMHO.
I think you have chosen to deliberately miss the point
Debate transcripts are usually published on line the next day. I’ll check. . . . Nothing yet, but watch this site.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22656153/
Cspan link to MSNBC debate. There’s a huckabee clip in the beginnning WTF?
Well, I may not be typical either, but I worked as a school custodian earlier in life and I would be willing to caucus and cast my vote wherever I can legally do so.
OT: Glenzilla fries another journalist for breakfast: http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html
Thanks, RayDuray and Scarecrow.
Let me get this straight; 1. Saudi hijackers execute 9/11, killing around 3000 Americans. 2. September 2003, U.S. Military final pull out of Saudia Arabia; a withdrawal that signaled the end of a 13 year strategic arrangement
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f…..A9659C8B63
3. U.S. invades Iraq March 2003 to build a permanent military presence in the middle east.
4. January 2008, Bush sells $20 billion in advanced weaponry to Saudi Arabia, origin of the hijackers and the antithesis of Israel.
I just have one question; where the heck can I buy gas at $2.96/gal?, .39cents less than what I pay
Here’s the transcript of the debate as told to the Las Vegas Sun
Wonder what that bling is worth in Euros?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html
Greenwald takes cnn’s John King to the woodshed
Okay my cspan link to the debates just froze.
Yeah, it’s well over $3 here in Mass. I looked for more recent signs/pictures of recent gas prices, but decided the arm and a leg message was better.
not nearly as high a figure as in dollars (currently $1.484/€)
$2.98 here in Marietta, GA.
I thought the debate was terrible for the most part. Some policy discussion broke out in the end I guess.
Clinton lost some gun votes she may never have had. That will be a problem in the general election if she gets the nod.
All of the Dems endorsed a policy of global domination. I guess Edwards was smart enough to realize that not having “combat” troops in Iraq was an important thing, but not smart enough to realize protecting the “embassy” is like protecting a small city. The other cadidates came in slightly lower on the issues of war & not-peace but it is truely a distinction without difference. Yeah they all would be better than Bush, but as has been stated any dogcatcher could do better than that.
I guess most of my gripe is just the start where the moderators just asked all those questions they always wanted to ask (about nothing in the context of the primary – race/gender/he-said she-said/etc. Then even with only 3 of them things rarely got cooking.
Bah, sadly I am going to have to watch it one more time to see what I missed as maybe I was just too tired.
The ‘Divine Right’ of MONEY and the interests of those essentially immortal ‘beings,’ those ‘Ficticious Persons,’ known as ‘corporations, do, without question, trump any other consideration.
But, not to worry, when homo sapien sapiens has trashed this planet we shall all jump on spaceships and boldly set sail, bravely going forth to seed the universe with our compassionate, and thoughtful sensibilities.
What are you, Ray? Some kind of fear-monger? (Grin)
Hutto, TX this morning $296.9 per.
Oh, and Obama got hurt a bit by the Energy Bill call. You are correct in that Clinton strategy to slash Bush with her answers was likley a good one (”Dick Cheneney’s energy bill”.
For Edwards the worst was just his original problem that he had bad votes from the past so that is and will be a consistant line of attack.
In MN, gas at $2.81 yesterday.
I told everyone yesterday, this is Ted Sampley and his band of morons. Let’s see if Kerry stands up to them this time!
$2.82 in Austin, TX, well actually Taylor. Home of the infamous T. Don Hutto Immigrant Detention Center.
Debate: Russert spends first zzzz minutes baiting Obama campaign and v.v. about race. Edwards is asked why a white male is running against historic candidicies and says I hope to be able to talk about policy differences.
oh. And don’t forget enrichment of own coffers.
I think most viewers were aggravated by the first half hour, with Tim Russert trying to bait the candidates — there wasn’t a single substantive question of policy positions until that part ended.
The candidates did a better job than the MSNBC mods in trying to get at policy differences. Obama’s probing of Edwards’ troop withdrawal was an example. In the last debate, Clinton tried to sort out the health “mandates” issue with Obama, but ABC’s Charlie whatisname cut that short. Some who knows the positions well and is not trying to play gotcha — and Russert always is — should lead these discussions if we want more substance.
Wow. That’s astounding! $296/gal! *g*
And whoever owns that last barrel wins.
I’m glad you weighed in on that. I know several folks around here who supported themselves through grad school working as school custodians (known as “plant managers” in LA Unified School District). One was a colleague of mine when I taught @ Cal State Northridge, Dr. Rudy Acuna, one of the most politically active guys I’ve ever had the pleasure to know.
Rudy’s Wiki entry
Yes the nuke waste thing as well. I think Edwards handled that well though. Didn’t Edwards made a point that Obama and Hill supported recent nuclear plant buildup legislation, and that his position that there is no safe way to get rid of waste which is why he is against nuke plants? He’s got plenty of legislative record to throw back at Hil/Obama that is more recent than his own position.
Stick with me kid, I can save you some serious money!
I nominate The Lurking Mod.
*g*
We’re thrilled. Really.
Perhaps nothing to see here, but if the pressures on the price of oil are macro (increasing global demand, steadily dropping dollar) it difficult to understand the curve’s recent inflection in the steep climb to $100/barrel.
Edwards does a whole lot better when the debate turns to policy.
$3.49 in Chicago. Gas prices suck due to city, municipal,and county taxes. The upside of living in Chicago; public transportation and water is plentiful due to Lake Michigan. How’s the water supply in Georgia?
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(Blushing) Why, Katherine,
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
But seriously, what you stated seemed like a classic straw man argument (unlike my uncle who was clearly a Bert Lahr Lion).
As such, how could you expect a serious rebuttal to a zinger?
By my calculation, I’d estimate that in all of Nevada, about 20 school janitors might be inconvenienced, compared to thousands of Culinary Union workers.
I thought you were making a joke, since your premise was such a reducto ad absurdum.
Or are you a flak for the Clinton Campaign? If so, you need new tactics, toots.
If I were John Kerry I wouldn’t lift one finger to help John McCain
when Kerry was being brutalized for his “botched joke” McCain piled right on even though he knew it was crap
Did anyone hear the heckler in the Nevada audience, something about “these are race-based questions” and Russert looking sqirmy.
Not good. One lake that supplies water to my area is almost at it’s normal winter level. All others in the area are extremely low (incl Lake Lanier, which supplies about 1/3 of the Atlanta area). Rain/ice/sleet expected tonight and tomorrow, up to about an inch of rain.
In one of the threads at Emptywheel, Hugh gives an estimate of the components of the price of oil. He recognizes the risk premium due to instability of the oil producing regions, and values it at $15-20 per barrel, and puts the speculator premium at the same range. This is the part of the price of oil which represents gambling by Wall Street on the direction of the price of oil.
I think they call it “adding liquidity to the commodity markets.”
I think you again have chosen to miss the point
and since you have only gotten information about the law suit from Obama flaks then you have little information and discussing it with you is pointles
Right but all the NON-union casino workers, hey it’s OK to inconvenience them right? After all, it’s their own fault they couldn’t get hired at a union facility… /s
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Since you are neither a custodian nor in Nevada, this seems to be a moot point. But I do get it. (grin)
Looks like Wiki link is screwed up somehow, on their end, I think. Have to type Rudy’s name into the Wiki manually if you want bio…
369 days is too long to wait to get rid of these monsters.
Impeach the bastards!
Rudolfo Acuña
Rudy? He was the mayor of 9/11, wasn’t he?
Well, it may have been a moot point, but it was as much ON point as your discussion of your uncle.
If anyone finds a video of the Clinton statement wrt to Bush begging the Saudis, lemme know. Thanks.
Thanks :-)
It doesn’t make much sense to single out nuclear, given that the by-products of fossil fuels are killing the planet right now and competition for access to the dwindling supply of easily extracted fossil fuel is causing horrific human misery. If it has to be one or the other, I’d prefer nuclear. But obviously solar, wind, biomass, etc. would be preferrable to either one.
DLC welfare
Larry Summers opining about economy live on C-SPAN2.
Look Katherine,
Don’t go getting all high & mighty on me. OK?
You have no business saying “and since you have only gotten information about the law suit from Obama flaks”.
Wow! That is a leap of lunacy that almost leaves me speechless. But not quite.
How in the world do you think you have even half a clue where I get my information from? I know, I know, a lot of people say I grab it from behind, physiologically speaking, but frankly, I only know one Obama fan in person, and I’d hoped her seemingly prepubescent infatuation with the man would wear off after a few months.
So what’s the deal here? Are you a Clintonista? Am I dealing with a knightess errant defending the honor of her Queen?
I gotta tell you. My sympathies lie with the Guy Fawkes types of this world, so if I read a Nation article an pass it along, don’t think I’m simply out to impune the Queen-In-Waiting. I much prefer to be a universalist and scorn the entire political class. Just hold on. I’ll get to the rest of them by-and-by… Bu-Bye. :)
No impeachment. It would just distract the Democrats from whatever it is they do. It’s so hard to tell.
Well I just saw the statement on the CSPAn footage of the debate. She used the word “pathetic”. I like that. If Selise were a around . . .
OT..Good for the ACLU
link
He mentioned coal plants as well. And carbs. Have to see transcript.
Knowing Rudy Acuna, not a man to mince many words, he’d have a few choice things to say to that other Rudy… *g*
Bush caves into Saudi demands of $20 billion in advanced weaponry. In return, the Saudis sell oil in US devalued dollars and maintain the dollar as the petro-dollar instead of shifting to the euro, for now. Saudi Arabians have allocated an estimated 60% of their global investments to the United States through passive and direct investments. Where else are the Saudis going to invest those almost worthless US dollars anyway?
As a good Republic, Craig will welcome ACLU support and then trash them for any political advantage.
If you think the biproducts of nuke & carbon based energy are wrecking the planet equally, then nuke plants have no place in electricty generation because they take so long to build.
Far too many times real heroes go largly unnoticed. This is one such hero.
Dr. Edna Mae Fong, a medical pioneer who overcame gender and racial prejudice to become the first female Chinese physician in Sacramento, died Thursday. She was 96.
I grew up and Sacramento, and my family remembers Dr. Fong. We salute you Doctor.
http://www.sacbee.com/obituaries/story/637804.html
It’s a wonderful day here in Oklahoma. Who knows. I might be teaching algebra today to a future doctor. Gotta get back to work. I love my job and my kids.
Ken Lay. Hah Bush probably dropped by Ken’s place in Dubai and they had a good laugh.
Edwards also pointed out, that they are more expensive.
IIRC The French generate 70% of their electricity with Nuclear..What do they do with waste?
You are right about CO2 is killing us now..the tipping point was 25 years ago..now it’s only a question of how bad is it going to be?
How can you call a US dollar worthless when it’s worth nearly one Canadian or Australian dollar? Mission Accomplished!
you are the one who started flinging charges about being a flack
The first part must make the Israelis happy/snark.
Blue Texan has a new post upstairs.
And that, something like, if you doubled number of nuke plants in the world it would raise electric generation by a couple of percentage points.
Ken’s busy keeping things ready for new arrivals in the Bush Wing of Hell these days.
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Very many of us consider this to be a public mythology created by the actual perpetrators of 9/11. I’ve made quite a study of the 19 purported hijackers. Did you know that in the aftermath of 9/11 that about a half a dozen of the men listed as hijackers came forward and were interviewed by the likes of the BBC? When confronted by this fact, FBI head Robert Mueller refused to take any action to correct the FBI list, which remains incorrect (fraudulent, I’d say) to this day, in an apparent effort to keep the public fairy tale intact.
Did you know that several of the purported hijackers were denied travel visas to the U.S. in Riyahd, S.A. only to travel to the CIA station in Jeddah and be issued visas which were incomplete and otherwise not normal?
Did you know that several of the purported hijackers listed either their home address or their vehicle registrations at the Pensacola Naval Air Station?
Looks suspicious, doesn’t it?
The most rational thing I’ve discovered about the hijackers is that they appear to have been manipulated by our intel services into being patsies, or as the expression goes, “tontos utiles”.
My problem with nuclear is: Who’s going to be running it? What safety standards will be established and tightly enforced? If we’re just going turn the problem over to the freemarket®, we might just as well […] I don’t want to say what I’m thinking, but you probably get the idea.
Well that’s a good question. What do the French do with the nuke wastes?
don’t drink French champagne anymore…they are storing in that region now
They reprocess and use again, but eventually you still have a waste problem to solve; when done, they have to store it where they think it’s safe, just like we do. And finding a place that’s “safe” for as long as it takes to become non-hazardous is hard, as the history of Yucca Mountain shows.
DW,
Nice to see your byline again, old chum. :)
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I prefer the term consciousness-monger, but come to think of it, reality looks fairly fear-filled these days.
Which reminds me of one of the best, very best, in fact stellar documentaries of the Bush Era:
The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis
If you want to understand Anglo-American politicians today, this is a great way to learn.
JoeBobSledRay Sez Check Dis One Out!
Breeder reactors can incinerate their own waste, which is a good thing, but they can also make weapons-grade plutonium, which is a bad thing. Norway and India are working on Thorium-based breeders which don’t make plutonium, but those are a few years away.
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01/06/2006 – The re-opening of a radioactive waste dump in France’s Champagne region, recently shut for safety reasons, threatens to contaminate the area’s famous vineyards, says campaigns group Greenpeace.
France’s nuclear safety watchdog said the site, near Soulaine in the heart of Champagne, could re-open after its operator had fixed a damaged wall helping to contain radioactive waste.
http://www.beveragedaily.com/n…..adioactive
Like Rodney Dangerfield said when he was told to take out the garbage, “you cooked it, you take it out”.
I’m sorry but nuke waste has got to be a much more horrific hazard. The Yucca Mountains made the MSNBC debate more interesting, when Edwards said he had changed his mind on nuke wastes after seeing scientific evidence, after Clinton pointed the finger at him. And then I think Edwards turned and pointed the finger at Obama. I much prefer this finger pointing the record stuff than Russert’s race-gender questions.
I’m with you.
Check out this vomity plate: ITMFA!
Curses, Steve,
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Sheesh, I was just starting to forget the last bonehead move by the ACLU and was beginning to consider them with favor…. then they pull this stoopid $#!+ again. Lunkheads! Grrrr.
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When Sean Hannity was a college kid he got into some pickle with free speech and radios. The ACLU took up his cause and won his case.
I blame the ACLU for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy in this country today. Just as with that butterfly in the Brazilian rain forest and hurricanes, if the ACLU had thumbed their nose at Hannity, we’d be living in a worker’s paradise today!
Hmmm. Hillary says Excelon is a “big supporter” of Obama’s campaign. Obama voted for energy bill. Hillary voted against it. Edwards says science doesn’t support safe disposal of nuke waste, and changed his mind since 90s.
It may be that the PNAC has screwed
Israelitself in promoting a war with Iraq that they believed would support Israeli supremacy in the region. If the US maintains permanent military bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar, Kuwait, and UAE, the question is do we needto supportIsrael’s support? And Bush’s current $20 billion advanced weaponry deal with the Saudis, possibly in return to economically support the US petro-dollar and not shift to the euro. U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget. The plan may be to eventually diminish future aid to Israel.In 2007, the United States increased its military aid to Israel by over 25%, to an average of $3 billion per year for the following ten year period (starting at $2.550 billion for 2008, growing by 150 million each year).[14] The package is scheduled to start October 2008, when regular economic aid to Israel’s economy is to end.[15] Officials have insisted the aid is not tied, or meant to balance, simultaneous military aid packages totalling $20 billion to Arab countries including Saudi Arabia[15]. U.S. President George W. Bush assured Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that the U.S. would help keep a “qualitative advantage” to Israel over other nations in the region
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I….._relations
Edwards v. Obama on Energy. Via April 07 Daily Kos entry.
…LOL…707…LOL… (I’m gonna die …. laughing … gasp…chortle…wheezzzzz… OK, I’m …better …now)
Oh!!! Deary me ….!
RayDuray!!!
You must simply stop (gasp! giggle… arrgh!) you must stop running circles around everyone -
The Peripatetic Punster and the Cyclonic Wits-ter are already but fast-diminishing, distant specks on your back-horizon.
Please: Consider the s-l-o-w and occassionally CRANKY wits of we mere mortals whom you dazzle with your over-arching intellectual grasp, not
to mention your break-neck typing (archaic mind-set terminology-deficient- sensibility, here) speed …
Or, I greatly fear, you shall gain such a reputation (this is like a ‘logo’ or a distinctive coloration, for example, such as those found among feathered bipeds)as to overshadow the pith and power of your well-honed (if bristling) commentary.
I’m trying very hard to be ’solemn and thoughtful, not smiling’ (deeep breathing, Zen-like meditative state … oops, no! I am NOT laughing, that is coughing, ahem… where was I? Oh, yes…) seriously … I feel another attack coming on … decorum! decorum! solemnity … where DID I PUT THAT GRAVITAS?!!?
Enough! (Now off to view ‘…Nightmares’ Thanky-you for linkerage)
[Edited by mod to remove name calling]
America imports 70% of its oil – it hasn’t got any to sell to anyone else.
opening refineries will not increase the supply of crude, and will have no impact on the price of crude, and a marginal impact on the price of refined products.
The us has been trying to reopen the Iraqi oil fields since two weeks after they crossed the border. To do that they have to stop the senseless civil war they created.
The White house solar panels won’t even run the shredders in Cheney’s office.
If you really want to lower the oil price, scrap your gas guzzling SUV’s, build a decent public transport infrastructure, and tax gas like in Europe where the oil consumption per capita is less than half the US
The US aid budget to Israel of 3bn/year is a joke when compared to the windfall that Saudi gets from the increase in the crude price since W invaded Iraq. Saudi produces 9mm barrels a day for which they receive $70 / barrel more than 2003, which equals $630mm increased profit per day or $230 billion per year.
Enough to buy a huge amount of weaponry, or finance an invason of Iraq for six months
Oil prices are not currently high because of demand. They are high because the value of the dollar is historically low.
you’ve missed the point entirely
it’s not that the whitehouses solar panels would make any dent in the industry, it’s the implications
the same thing is true if we only sold our petro to ourselves and clearly if the Iraqi infrastructure was protected enough to produce even the amount of assets they were producing before
the entire purpose of this war was to controll the supply of oil
that’s what you’ve missed and you’re so intent on the “get a smaller car” that you don’t see it’s exactly what would have been happening if ronny boy didn’t take those panels off the whitehouse
and that is the very point
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Ya think? I’m guessing that it takes a rare reader to be dazzled by my schtick. For many, it’s just so much logorrhea of a neurasthenic and fatuous nature.
‘logorrhea of a neurasthenic and fatuous nature’
Er, a nervously debilitating and foolishly silly verbosity …?
Hmmmm….
No, diagnostically, this is inconsistent with extant evidence; Try again.
Watched first episode of ‘…Nightmares’ quite fine, as far as it goes.
As with most such efforts, good as it is, it goes a wee bit light in some areas. Out of the blue, it seems, the Iranians are having their Islamic Revolution, with no mention of the assassination of Mossadegh or Savak, for example, and the century-long role of the Brit’s paying in the mid-eastern sands, settin things ‘up’ as it were, gets somewhat short shrift.
These are my standard gripes, however. Complex histories are simply that: complex. But the Straussian waltzers have definitely been piping the tune from ‘our’ side.
Overall, given its importance in helping general audiences ‘get’ what is going on it gets the full four bones.
The CIA-inspired torture scenes in Egypt under Nasser should be required viewing for all children over fourteen and under one-hundred and fourteen.
Somewhat similar to those ‘you will be safe under your desks children’ atom bomb flicks and Nazi atrocity films that were required viewing when I was young (Dinosaurs were a constant threat back then).
Again, appreciate the link. Will view and review other ‘episodes’ when time permits.
Scatology, I, that is, the Virgo sensibility in me, find this word amusing…poof! makes the smelly stuff all nice and clean. :>)