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Democratic debate night! Will Hillary and Obama be able to maintain their recent truce and keep their shots above the belt? Will Edwards get any oxygen? How wankeriffic will Williams and Russert be? What will be the over/under on calls for Edwards to drop out?
Also, I understand there may be some sort of primary going on somewhere. Independent turnout is not looking real good for Lieberman McCain. What will be the under/over on calls for McCain to drop out? Or Rudy? Or Fred? I'm betting... zero.
9:01 pm ET -- with 9% reporting (via CNN):
37% Romney
31% McCain
16% Huckabee
6% Paul
4% Thompson
3% Giuliani
2% Uncommitted
(h/t Jane for turnout story)
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Firepups!!!
woohoo
Mittmentum! Let the games begin!
Those 3% scare me. 911
NBC calls Michigan for Romney.
whoever mentioned Russerts big head was correct…
Er, Richardson?
I’m expecting some really godawful questions…
The Great Orange Overlord has triumphed
KOS wins Michigan for Robo Romney!
My husband laughed at “pumpkinhead”
Oops. Last I heard he was still in. Maybe I’m out of the loop…
OT..”Inside Baseball” talk from Taylor Marsh:
link
Brian came out swinging! First question is about MLK and the kerfuffle… *gah*
race right off the bat. Nothing like taking the high road on the very first question, eh?
Brian Williams tryin’ to instigate a fight…
Heh. “Exuberant and sometimes uncontrollable supporters.”
We (my woman and me) were voting Democratic long before Hillary and Obama were. We are not pleased with either of these two. Do i need to put this concept into stronger terms?
Hill says “We’re all family in the democratic party.”
Hill looks like a fox there
At least he didn’t come right out and ask Hillary point-blank if she was a great big racist.
Did you see how serious Pumkinhaid looked when he was introduced? He almost looked like a real journalist.
The debate came on and I found that I couldn’t take it. I will let you guys fill me in.
PhysioProf (from downstairs discussion)
Perhaps “In the name of all that is holy . . .” would cover it nicely.
is it me, or does Clinton address Obama as “Senator Obama” and he addresses her as “Hillary”?
Hillary, Obama answer the baiting by Brian Williams with a resounding “fuck you, next question”!!
MLK for President!!
Obama says that dems have much more in common than apart.
go johnny go…Johnny be good!!!!!!!!!
The mikes seem kind of echoey.
Fuck you Brian!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha….spurt
It is hard to take. Williams and Pumpkinhaid are very hard to take. Right wing shills that they are.
It could be Hill/Obama. And I think that would be smart. From a political standpoint.
pumpkin is UNRELENTING
Russert won’t let up on beatin’ the race angle…
Johnny was good
Aarrgh! STFU, Timmeh!
That’s the sound waves bouncing around in Timmeh’s cavernous head.
(EPU’d):
Kumbayah has commenced.
The human beings in our house are with you 100%. As I may have mentioned before, I cannot speak for our non-human occupant. I fear he may be a Paul supporter.
Timmeh obviously not happy with the lack of a cat-fight.
More “Fuck you’s” expected shortly…
Christy seems to get her wish. Obama and Clinton are both wanting to debate the issue. Not race. Hurray!
I heart him and Liz mightilly
You and me both.
Yes that would be. It seems that they are smartly dialing back and confronting the right wing attack, ie: unapologetic race baiting.
+1
good on the DEMS ……..hooray
Russert going after it again…
STFU PUMKINBRAIN
Ruusert: marginalize you as the black candidate. Ruusert: a gutless puke!
He has grown in this race and looks so much more mature and ready .
Timmeh - “Goddamn it! If you three don’t get into a fucking fight soon, I’m calling this thing off and going home”!
Russert should give his mic to Keith.
Me too…
Good answer by Obama to the “Were NH voters racist?” question:
“NO.”
A sea of Evil Orange in Michigan tonight? Bah hahahahahahahaha!
LOVE OUR LIBERAL MEDIA
Dick Cheney speaks in tongues thru Tim Russert
Which is better? Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary.
I think Obama is handling himself fairly well in dealing with Tim. I want to see Clinton.
Change is the key!
Oh yes, tonight’s topic at the debate will be:
Race
Gender
The End.
he has put it ALL on the line
Russert going in for a 4th time - push! push! push! the race war!
How’s about some real questions, Timmeh?
GET OFF IT, MSNBC mods!
Edwards nowhere to be seen or heard…fucknozzles
OT with 10% of precincts reporting, CNN has Willard winning the R primary with 37% to McCain with 31%
D has Clinton with 61% and “uncommitted” at 34%
I disagree. Tim Russert is a sad, bitter drunkard.
Timmeh on Robert Johnson, Hill accepts him on his word. Will not let dems be subverted. Hurray again!
Hillary - “Robert Johnson doesn’t work for me and you damn well know it, ya fucking knucklehead. Would you please ask me a real question”?
“Look, you two - I’m just going to keep asking these questions until you fight each other, so you might as well just start now.”
I’m proud of our Dems - nobody is taking the bait…
The is candidate punditry talk. Debate something already!
Tim needs a cockpunch
The main thing, we think, is to get rid of the Republicans.
As David Bender said John has a cause as well as a campaign,
Clinton/Obama.
Is it safe to say that Edwards and Kucinich, being neither black nor women, are being studiously ignored? (I can’t bring myself to watch…)
Is Natalie Morales at the kiddie table or something?
have you all seen this about Dodd…fyi
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....s-on-fisa/
I’m certainly admiring all three’s responses to that fuckery…!
Russert: you didn’t fire the racist Robert Johnson.
Uncommitted at 34%? I wonder if these are Kucunich voters and no one wants to report that. LOL
Natalie Morales - “I’m so skinny I haven’t menstruated in a decade. do any of you have a position on this?”
Edwards sounds sharp tonight…
Mittens hasn’t been this proud since that day his dad and Gandhi led a hunger strike in Delhi.
Kucinich is not there.
If I were Hillary or Barack, I would NOT be pleased at the question Natalie just asked Edwards. If the questioner is representative of the Democratic electorate, that she doesn’t see any policy differences between the three candidates, ALL the candidates are in trouble.
Kucinich is not in the debate. The NV Supreme Court booted him about an hour before start.
Can you say more? I can’t stomach watching.
Nice that Hil is so magnanimous and accepts Bob Johnson at his word. Now wasn’t there something in 2006 about Kerry when she wasn’t so generous?
Edwards getting some good comments in.
Natalie is asking questions from the emails received by MSNBC.
“Senator Edwards, why don’t you want America to have a black or female president?”
Ha!!
Natalie - “what is a white man to do running against these historic candidates?”
with any luck, the punditry will wear this out…
Haaa!
Can someone explain the “Orange Overlord” reference?
Sorry, my bad. I thought he had won his suit…
I believe the uncommitted was a strategy to attempt to derail Clinton’s votes since she was the only contender left after the others withdrew from the primary.
Natalie asks Edwards: What do you think about a black man and a white woman running for president? Isn’t it yucky?
BOOOOYA
just sounds awake and alert and on his game… statements same as always…
HAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now it’s Brian Williams’ turn to try to start a cat fight.
Confidence remains high that a question regarding presidential qualifications may yet be asked…
Daily Kos has an orange banner, and the MSM seem to think he controls all Dem bloggers…
Kos has encouraged MI Dems to cross over and vote for Mitt, to keep him in the race — which will force him to spend more bucks, and Huckabee, Guiliani, McCain, & Paul to spend more as well.
Now a gender question. So far all the questions have been about ‘the race’ not the issues.
Hope she asks Teddy’s!
Are these NBC talking head idiots ever going to talk about the Fing issues.
OMG they are not talking about anyting of substance because of the stupid questions.
I fucking hate these questions. They’re trying to flame this bs. All the candidates more classy than the petty moderators.
Daily Kos = Great Orange Satan (in R view point) = Orange overlord of all things Liberal and leftist. He works for George Soros doncha know.
Markos from Daily Kos.
Go JE! Go!
Kumbayah continues. Obama regrets his disssing of Clinton in previous debate.
Based on what?
Sounds like there needs to be a lawsuit banning Timmeh from future debates.
one thing I like in the unity theme of tonight is that it becomes quite obvious that the media are the ones pushing the race war…
this is as it should be…
We have three lawyers (Obama, Clinton, Edwards) on the tube wanting to represent me. If I have to go to trial, I’ll take Edwards.
Kucinich is on the Michigan ballot.
Interesting. Are wingnut bloggers apoplectic about this?
Its the Daily Kos. they are the big orange. Kos wanted Mitt Phoney to win for a three way circle jerk. Such a jerk will keep Edwards viable.
Brian Williams, and more stupid questions. I think Brian is a stealthy neo-con also.
Edwards is finding ways to get in portions of his stump speech.
If they are in trouble I tink it is because media is not covering the substance. Only the spin and idiocy. Issues anyone. we are in a war of choice with no healthcare, and a crappy ass economy….
real questions anyone? anyone? anyone??
they should refuse to answer,amd flip the script
Blind, stupid optimism.
Rudy seems to be pulling away from Uncommitted. Go, Rudy, go!
Holy effing shit….another question about the race instead of the issues.
To Edwards: ‘Have you and Obama teamed up against Hillary?’
MI numbers: 15% reporting
Rudy Giuliani
4,076
3%
Mike Huckabee
25,318
17%
Duncan Hunter
516
0%
John McCain
46,237
31%
Ron Paul 9,386
6%
Mitt Romney
56,578
37%
Fred Thompson 5,994
4%
Uncommitted
3,004
2%
* * *
I’m hoping that Ron Paul beats Rudy and Thompson combined. He’s almost there . . .
Do you think this will come through to the casual viewer?
Natalie Morales is a little twinkie. Having her askign questions severly reduces the cred of this debate. having Neocons Williams and TIMMAY! asking questions speaks for itself.
My problem is I really am at the point of voting “the lesser of Who cares?” (Hat tip to Aaron Sorkin) again.
I’ve been voting since I was 18 in 1972 and this is the least inspiring set of dem candidates I can remember. I really really hope they don’t nominate Joe Lieberman’s BFF Hilary.
Someone speaking out in audience
Oh, awesome! Someone in the audience just called them on race-baiting questions!
they should refuse to answer,amd flip the script
They’re doing a nice job of just that, imo.