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With 20% of the Michigan vote in, Mitt 40% to McCain 20% (MSNBC).
Rudy getting his ass kicked by Ron Paul again. Josh Marshall wonders if he should be allowed in any more debates.
At the Nevada debates, Brian Williams and Tim Russert will not be happy until they have everyone at each other's throats. All the candidates classier than the moderators, refusing to take the bait.
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Go Edwards!
Yes
Brian is bringing up the Muslim slur!!!
What we’re all dieing to hear…
What does Chuck Todd think about all this?
Obama is asked about e-mails calling him a muslim, etc.
Somebody heckle again… Puh-Lease…
Oh goody, now Williams is on to the “Obama’s a Muslim” meme. more than half way through this thing and not one bit of substance. pleh!
Obama: I trust the people to sort out the lies from the facts.
Thing of it is… we don’t see anything wrong with being a Muslim.
Economy next, according to Brian Williams.
Yeah go Edwards!!!
Freakning tradtional media idiots…
finally the economy only 35 minutes in…an issue…this is insane.
oh good, a break… do I have some alcohol around here?
They’re giving us a break. Will we get to hear some spin?
As noted, BW mentions every rumor in that email without mentioning that they are all lies. But at least Obama gets to set the record straight.
Hell since Chuck Todd is the NBC “political director” then he probably directed Punkinhaid and Bri-Bri to ask the questions they’ve been asking.
I’m not watching this and I’m getting angry! Damn NBC!
What??? You terrorists!
How’s about Abrams and KO next time…???
Is he calling the moderators on their assholitude?
Guliani beat by Ron Paul…again…mwahaha
It’s 9:35 and the MSNBC people haven’t asked a single substantive question about national issues.
Well, the Personality portion of the debate appears to be over. Swimsuits next?
Williams and Russert are absurd. Does Russert remind anyone of Joe McCarthy when he waves papers at the candidates?
Lahoma advises me it’s way past time for a female, native American Indian, to be president.
I wonder if the moderators had a back-up plan for what to do if the candidates didn’t take their bait and attack each other.
good idea.
FPUd: “Speaking of the Orange Plot, is there any evidence that it was determinative of Romney’s victory?”
Obama and Williams have all but blamed the whole race thing on the Bloggers.
We agree!
Hmmm… I always thought that word was “assholiosity.” Maybe I’m wrong…
YEA AND THOSE ARCH EYEBROWS WITH POPOUT EYEBALLS…very serious
Debate Thread #2! Woohoo! LOL
Yea. He’s been an interesting character to me. Popped up out of nowhere in the last year or two in a position I never remember seeing before, and CONSTANTLY on every show spinning more than a Tilt-a-Whirl. Both of those make me sick incidently.
Apparently not. That would explain “What are your greatest strengths and weaknesses?” Lamest interview question evah!
“Evidence? Evidence? We take it on faith!” — Huckabee
President Lahoma has a nice ring to it!
Hillary is completely unbelievable….. I mean….. she’s part of the problem.
I think Russert prepares his questions while on the toilet in the morning between reading old issues of people magazine.
Economy next, according to Brian Williams.
“Senator Clinton - why did you fuck up our economy”?
no
Williams: we’re going to try something new…each candidate gets to ask the other candidates two questions.
Another way to get them at each others’ throats.
The moderators need to ask what the candidates favorite colors are.
So he’s a multitasker?
“My Greatest Weakness”? I watch too many Corporate journalists on the Tee Vee who sell out America for the Warmonger Investor Class. This includes General Electric MSNBC (excepting Keith).
The Economy is next. NPR reported that the PowersThatBe say that money needs (quickly) to get into the hands of (working) people that will spend it (quickly). Idealogy (republican trickle down, ie: tax cuts) be damned. They won’t dare call it what it is - Bill Clinton’s Keynesian Economics.
Harold Ford.. Heads the DLC for Hillary!! He is Vice Chair of Merrill Lynch!!
Horrible moderators…… but, we know that…..
I was debating (briefly) between assholitude and assholishness. I do like assholiosity. Mind if I use it on my blog? I’ll h/t you.
DLCers are republicans.
And a stinker..
That would make me the First Half Breed. ;0)
An excellent question. About Citibank getting funds from Korea.
Not really I am just cheerleading…
ya gotta be kiddin?
Uhh… Repeal Glass-Stegall…
long time reader, first time commenter. . . *pop*
Comedy central should host a debate with Jon stewart as moderator. it would be more serious and consequential than this fodder we are watching.
Hillary - “Gimme a minute while I blather incoherently..uh, money going overseas sucks.”
I like assinatitude, myself physioprof. :-)
I have to say Senator Clinton is not being well served by Mark Penn.
No but that has never stopped the VRWC from whining before.
The Economy theme gives Edwards a chance to say his piece. Go John!
Hillary….we need to freeze rates…yeah not so much….lets just put off the pain until after the re-election.
Bad idea I think.
she cant represent one thing she has done to stop it
Use it at will, it’s language and it’s free as a bird!
LOL!
Welcome to the comments — keep them coming!
I hope you would invite your FDL friends over for garden parties.
Excellent idea and welcome to the lake!
I have to say Senator Clinton is not being well served by Mark Penn.
Sean Penn, otoh, would be great.
John Edwards is winning this thing tonight, thus far, hands down.
Isn’t Walter Conkrite still alive. Can’t we get him to moderate a debate?
The subprime mess is a failure of regulation and oversight….
yes thank you OBAMA!!!
Yes! Finally!!!!
John sounds good methinks
Obama on energy: “Solar” Good, “Wind” Good, “Biodiesel” Not so good.
Super idea! Jon Stewart could moderate the Dems, and Stephen Colbert could moderate the Repubs. What fun! And you’re right — I’ll bet they’d ask substantive questions about the issues.
Hey, thank you to all who are bravely doing battle with Timmeh over there, so we lily-livered weaklings with the teevee off don’t have to fight him here.
I still think that Obama is sounding better than on previous debates.
BYOB. And absolutely no cocktail weenies. If you please. ;0)
I would like a dem debate where all of them spend the entire time bashing the repubs. Obama just did a little of that.
Somebody just pinched Russert on the ass.
Harold Ford Merrill Lynch
Harold Ford DLC
Tim playin gotcha again
Edwards regrets voting for the bankruptcy bill
i would have loved to have said Dennis is winning this thing tonight, but alas i think you are right.
Ohh, I like that!
Edwards admitting the bankruptcy vote was wrong…that is really nice…
I wish Hillary would do that on the war…
It’s always a little strange hearing a Clinton rail about unfair Press coverage, when Bill championed and signed into law one of the most damaging to the Constitution laws I can ever remember - The Telecommunications Act. This allowed for huge increases in media consolidation and dramatically contributed to the sad state of “journalism” were seeing on display tonight.
Could this be a reason for Ruturd Murdoch’s support for Hillary?
I am really liking Edwards tonight.
will any of them attempt to repeal the bankruptcy bill?
Timmeh busting on Edwards for the bankruptcy bill. JE, to his credit, says he screwed up big time.
EEEEEEWWWW….
Edwards, flat out regretting his Bankruptcy vote…
JOHNS ON FIRE
Edwards regrets another of his votes. Should never have voted for the bankruptcy law. A little late…again.
Done.
We are Sean Penn fans. Big fans. ;0)
don’t understand…
Go Edwards. Woo Hoo!!!
Edwards regrets voting for the bankruptcy bill. He’s my guy, but an apology isn’t good enough. That bill stunk and he should have known it.
Clinton speaking to bankruptcy reform.
Timmeh - “Hillary, the Bankruptcy Bill is your fault. Do you regret it?”
Hillary - “It never became law, thank god”.
WTF?
FREEZING INTEREST FOR 5 YEARZZZZZZZZZZZZZ?
Just returning from a phone call. Did I hear Hillary say she didn’t vote for the bankruptcy law?
Edwards has said those votes were a mistake along with the NAFTA votes.
Sorry. I meant to reply to sadly yes, in a comment above yours.
Clinton wants to reform the bankruptcy bill. Right now!!!
If Senator Obama is the nominee of our party, we will vote for him. ;0)
Hill talking about the CEOs getting the great bonuses on rip-offs. Minorities victimized by the sub-prime fiasco.
said she opposed the 2005 bill…
Wasn’t fixing the bankruptcy bill on the top of the dem agenda when they took control of the senate?
Nevermind, I realize the ridiculousness of that question.
She said ‘It never became Law!’
Hillary is confident in Reid and Pelosi to address issues?!
Clinton is relying on Reid and Pelosi to fix the economy.
why does Hillary have urgency NOW?
That’s my biggest problem with Edwards is all the votes like the Bankruptcy bill, NAFTA, and the Iraki AUMF that are now mistakes. He should have recognized the mistake before voting for these idiocies.
Hillary just admitted that she didn’t know this was an urgent situation economically until just now. gaaaaahhhh
Clean up on aisle 9/11. There’s a Rudymentum spill.
-G
Short debate:
Hillary: I agree with Senator Edwards.
Obama: I agree with Senator Edwards.
Did I get that right?
Yeah nothing like invalidating contracts to put our country back to third world status. That is why you can’t get a loan to buy a home in the third world because the contract law is not that good.
she said, and i quote . . .
“sure..” kinda like saying “yeah, why not”
Obama wants to give a break to people who are in bankruptcy because of health problems.
Obama opposed the Bankruptcy Bill.
That’s a *big* check mark in his favor in my book.
Because it is an absolute emergency, which W doesn’t understand.
Has anyone ever said that interest rates/fees/penalties charged by credit card companies need to be curbed. Anyone EVER addressed that?
Yeah, I know. It all depends on whether you think Edwards learned the right lessons from his mistakes and whether he’ll actually do anything once he gets in office. Not a sure shot on either.
Edwards is just about sealing the deal with us tonight.
Natalie Morales - “I haven’t eaten in a week. I gained a pound over the holidays. I feel faint. Does anybody have a question I can use”?
NAFTA the biggest mistake ever came to this country!! That’s what the clintons gave us. Gut the middle class is all it did….. bye bye jobs overseas, hello slave wages. Just bad. Sold the middle down the river for bottom line of corporations.
Just tuned in. Any acknowledgment so far that Kucinich was excluded?
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Carumba!!!
Funny. Look at the picture at the top of this post. How come only the corporate-sponsored, pro-deathpenalty people remain as Democrats(?) choices at this obscenely early date?
He wasn’t in the Senate for the bill that Edwards voted on.
Obama getting some laughs from CEO-bashing.
Obama would have different capital gains tax rates for the middle class and others? Hm, how would that work. I don’t see it.
707!
Obama makes a good point