The Michigan primary is tomorrow, and it could be interesting:
The Detroit Free Press:
Romney: 27
McCain: 22
Huckabee: 16
McClatchy/MSNBC has:
Romney: 30
McCain: 22
Huckabee: 17
If Romney can stay alive in Michigan and Rudy takes Florida, the GOP nomination process will be a mess. The GOP convention is in September, which gives the candidate who tacks far enough to the right to win the nod about two months to recover for the general. Very tough to do.
Remember if you're in Michigan -- vote Romney!
Do it for Tagg.
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Wahoo!
Mitt for Change! ;-)
Mitt Romney, fortunate son.
I live in the middle of the orange groves in Florida. I noticed all the groves have very large Mitt signs. I’m giving up orange juice.
President Romney.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The rethugs are filing criminal complaints against Markos. I don’t have the link, but it’s over on Kos. Massive voter fraud is what they are claiming.
Wha Hu?!?!?! LOL!
Well, this has the potential to be entertaining.
Nothing quite like throwing a little chum in the water to help that feeding frenzy along.
I am not sure this is where wisdom or civil ethics lies?
Hi folks…
Now that I got that out of the way….
I was watching Bill Maher (gawd I missed him so much) on HBO the other nite and something was said about the Repubs usually marching under one Fuhrer when there’s a prez election…
So if this goes the way Jane is predicting (please lord make it happen) it will be interesting to watch the GOP prez. nomination chaos from a relatively safe distance here at the lake…
Pass the popcorn….
poor mittens,he is spending all his ill begotten cash….guess hell have to go bust up some more PROFITABLE corporations,and send the workers to foreclosure status
oh yeah,
we could have a good time mitt this
It’s an interesting dynamic with the Democratic primary meaningless. How great would a record turnout for Democrats crossing over to vote for Mittens.
I’m enjoying this immensely. The only thing that’s tempering my pleasure is that John Edwards is still being largely ignored. For full enjoyment, I need my side to be doing well along with their side imploding.
“Pulp-Heads for Mitt”?
Yup, but it ain’t over till it’s over and there is plenty of time left for H&O to implode allowing Edwards to step up to the plate.
If we’re lucky, Mitt will stay in long enough and spend enough that he won’t have to worry about inheritance taxes. .g)
Come on Michigan independants get out and vote for Willard.
We can laugh about Preident Romney or President Huckster, but since the
Democrats are so disorganized, there is every reason to believe that the next President will be a Republic. The fix will be in and, given their current leadership, the Democrats will just let it happen.
He’s in need of a fresh squeeze.
” If Rudy wins Florida” That means at least four likely GOP winners splitting the vote, Huckabee, McCain, Mitt, and Rudy! The contest could keep going on and on with each contested Primary costing the GOP even more money!
And no time to fund raise to get any money.
Hmm we will have to expect the GOP to attempt some serious extralegal fund raising schemes then. Then we some way to put some real time teeth into campaign finance law.
I guess this means the write-in initiative for Larry Craig is
stalleddead?Thanks for the good news Jane. Kos has found an interesting way to show our strength. The Center Dems will now be looking to stop us somehow, someway. Let them try!
One extra wrinkle in all this is some of the R primaries and caucuses are winner take all for delegates while some are proportional distribution of the delegates based on vote per cent.
It is always about the delegates first and foremost.
Funny thing about this loud bang on the internet, is that it will only throw a coupla votes (relative) for Mitt Romney.
What I mean to say is, whether Mitt wins or loses Michigan, what will be on everyone’s mind is Kos and his flexing for voters to vote for Mitt to throw the GOP into disarray.
If Mitt wins, a few out there will add in that Kos and bloggers were involved. But how involved? How many Michiganers will actually do it and vote Mitt? Any idea if it will make that big of a splash? Sometimes, stories are bigger than the event.
Markos is under attack by Conservatives. After seven years, of compromising our votes, and stealing elections, the Neo-cons are going after bloggers as well. Markos may not be able to visit Michigan ever again. Wel I am joining Markos in solidarity.
Democrats, please vote Republican in Michigan, to mess up their Primary!
http://illinoisreview.typepad......nvest.html
I know kos loathes Kucinich but tossing Mitt a bone over supporting a fighting progressive really says a lot to me about kos.
We gotta hope that the Republicans continue to pummel each other and deplete their personal and corporate treasuries. Of course, they all believe in going into debt anyways…so it likely won’t stop them. It simply means that they will be more beholden to whomever gives their campaign the loan.
One other point in all this. Even when they withdraw from a race many of these candidates still curry favor with Congressmen and Senators by passing on their campaign assets to buddys that can offer up a few favors down the road. This gives them fewer “chits” and weakens Republicans in competitive races.
Plus the money for the Republicans to the RNC for the general campaign also drops off. And hopefully there is a similar trend with the RNCC and Republican Senatorial Committee.
The less Pug money then the greater chance that grass-roots campaigns can do well against them.
Ironically, it seems that all these Republican candidates believe that they have “must win” races with few options if they don’t succeed. Huckabee “has to” win in South Carolina, Romney in Michigan, Giuliani in Florida…but if they do McCain’s light diminishes since it will be a few Primaries without a victory. And the longer they are all in they keep attacking each other, which opens them up for the Democratic nominee to point out that the running mate said “X” about the Presidential nominee. Of course, the same attacks are possible by the Republicans on any sort of Democratic pairing. If surrogates say it, not so much. But Democrats have to be careful about not leaving too much blood on the floor.
I’d love to see ten total votes for the Dems and Mitt winning by 50%.
It’s fun to pretend the United States is a federal constitutional republic.
heh, Jane at her tboggiest. Love it!
BTW ccmask…are you aware that Huizenga is a big Romney supporter? Maybe he’s put a lot of cash into the grove signage effort?
It’s a good thing that he doesn’t put signs on Huizenga’s Waste Disposal Dumps, though…hopefully that’s where all those signs will eventually end up!
it’d be more fun if it was only a game.
“Pulp Fiction”
My understanding is that Michigan has OPEN primaries and does not have a registered party system. which means voters declare their “party affiliation” when they go to the polls for the primary.
Ain’t that the truth.
What fun hearing Repugs whine about the sanctity of voting. The disenfranchisement of 230,000 Floridians by Katharine Harris and Jeb Bush remains one of the greatest unpunished crimes in electoral history.
UAW sign:
“Save Your Jobs; Vote Ron Paul”
Markos @ Kos and here are recommending Dems crossover and vote Mitt. Rudy 912 is hoping that when Florida comes around, there are 5 different candidates, each the winner of one primary. Some articles say Obama and Edwards want Dems to vote uncommitted. I wonder if voting uncommmitted (which I assume would allow the eventual winner to have that many more votes to bargain over if there were a brokered convention) is a better strategy than voting Mitt for Dems.
Yeah, you know “winning” in the ME is a lot like a football game! An American football game, of course. First down and goal to go…Tehran!!!
You know, the preseason in Afghanistan didn’t really show the fans what the US has got. If they can make it through Iraq, and McCain is confident that they can, Iran is going to have to really come to the show full force. Esp. given the heavy recruiting W is doing right now.
Back to you, John.
I don’t think it’s strange that Hillary overcame a 15 point deficit in one day or anyone who runs against Lieberman gets 448,077 votes.
Re:
That reminds me of the characters Doc Sarvis and Bonnie Abbzug in Edward Abbey’s classic, “The Monkey Wrench Gang“.
I personally would never give up on orange juice, nor would I give up on Husqvarna.
LOL! I thought that the bloggers HAD NO INFLUENCE . Now they are going bat-shit ballistic about Kos! This is great! If Romney wins by even 1% they will utterly freak! The “bloggers did it” will be their mantra. Which will mean…Hmmm! Do they reject Romney? But Mitt is the “establishment choice”….boo-hoo! Or maybe they will not! They’ll say it didn’t make a difference…but will have to try and convince the evangelicals and McCainites that Mitt is an authentic winner rather than a guy whose only victory is about as legitimate as an East African jamboree. The brains on the right are already exploding!
Of course they forget that they did similar things when Reagan and Nixon were running unopposed in their second terms and the Republican Primary was meaningless. And they have consistently opposed closing the Primaries!
“I feel your pain, Republicans”…see me crying crocodile tears ;-)
Here’s a fun YouTube about Michigan
Paging Tom Feeney, paging Tom Feeney.
Your programmers have been requested in Michigan.
that hits just too close to home.
and i’m sure you could do one for our presidential elections - but i don’t know if it’s a dog race or a beauty contest.
Bill, Obama and Hill. Crybabies for the ages.
(CNN) — Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign came out swinging Monday against the latest complaints from her rival, with former President Clinton announcing he has “a list of 80 attacks on Hillary” by Senator Barack Obama’s campaign.
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....a-attacks/
Re:
Huh? How many wetbacks is Marcos hiding in his attic? This sounds like the SLAPP suits that were pretty effective at stifling local community activists a while back. The difference this time is that the GOP may well be picking on a more potent enemy than they suspect. I gotta think that although he can afford some pretty sophisticated legal represenation that Marcos will also have no problem finding extremely intelligent pro bono legal assistance.
I’ll bet some of our very own FDL legal beagles would love to make this a cause celebre just for the sake of rubbing the GOP’s nose in the pig wallow.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
I didn’t know that about Huizenger. I pass a lot of Mitt signs and they are so big they could fill a dumpster with 3 of them. I guess I’ll have to give up oranges for lent instead of lentils this year.
Silly, you’re supposed to eat lentils, not give them up!
It doesn’t look like any law is being broken. In an open primary all registered voters are qualified. I used to live in SCarolina, & 4 years ago wingnut (baby Rushs) radio hosts were trying to get Repugs to vote for Holy Joe in the Dem primary, since there wasn’t a Repug pres primary. Nothing illegal here, folks.
LOL==
I’m been following EW’s info on her thread, and this, and I’m learning but still confused as to Michigan. The fact that the Rethugs are alarmed is amusing–and that they are claiming dirty tricks is supreme irony.
Complaint Against Kos
The Kos complaint isn’t worth the paper it’s writtin on since Michigan is an Open Primary state. It’s not going anywhere IMHO.
Over at Kos, they’ve cited TASHJIAN v. REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONNECTICUT, 479 U.S. 208 (1986)
and Michigan is comporting as to both parties.
This is kind of the same trick played last year on ‘American Idol’. Vote for the worst.
Meddle is the right word.
I said it at DKos, I’ll say it here: butt out.
Get your own f*cked up primary.
Crossing party lines is NOT going to fix this mess; if the DNC ultimately decides to seat/award delegates from Michigan, voting for Romney or any other POS Republican means increasing Clinton’s share of delegates.
And Clinton is the reason why our primary in Michigan got so f*cked up in the first place. What did she promise a couple of blondes in our state?
Please find someplace else to meddle. Jeebus, we’re already on point for the recession the rest of you haven’t seen; you want to jack our electoral process around more, too?
I would like to suggest we have Japanese game show designers create our debate parameters and slogans for the candidirt. I would prefer some bloodshed just so we know it is real.
I’m in Ann Arbor and voted this a.m. for Dodd. I was the only voter in the polling place at 9:30, but they said they’d had a good turnout so far - about 20 voters.
I voted for Dodd because:
Not comfortable with Clinton’s position on the war.
Obama doesn’t want my vote - he took his name off the ballot.
Edwards doesn’t want my vote - he took his name off the ballot.
Dodd’s stance on the wiretapping immunity.
I considered voting for Kucinich, but he’s only on the ballot because he screwed up trying to remove his name. So he didn’t want my vote either.
I didn’t want to vote uncommitted and have my vote go to some smoke-filled room of MI pols.
I’m pretty grumpy about the whole thing.