HRC – “The banks, lenders, predatory loan folks need to be restrained. Putting people into these loand who maybe should not have been placed there.

Back when the mortgage crisis first hit the papers in a big way her response was to pledge a $1Billion fund to help, wait for it, the lenders. Not a penny for home owners.

Tell me again how this isn’t a race of Republican-Lite v. Republican-Lite?

John Edwards — A Democrat for President!

HRC says that the ‘02 speech by Obama is to his credit but that Obama has moved back from it. Timmeh points out that she has voted in favor of a lot of the same things that she’s beating up Obama for. She responds “My campaign is not premised on the one speech and then voting contrary to it.”

Timmeh trying to hammer her for her vote. She takes responsibility for the vote and accuses Bush of abusing the authority he was given. Timmeh is trying very strongly to sandbag with snapshots of votes.

If Hillary had handled Obama this way months ago he wouldn’t be in the race at this point with a state victory under his belt (except for the cheating goin’ on). But no, Hillary waited until Edwards is being shoved out and now it’s the one-on-one between her and Obama that they have been planning on.

It doesn’t matter that Edwards was knocking her out in the debates and she should’ve lost NH and been outta here already. As long as the powers that be want her and Obama to face off, then that’s what it will be.

I guess when the Chicago trial comes up Obama will have to step aside and let Hillary win without opposition. Apparently it is all just as fair as pro wrestling and NFL football. Shame on me for thinking American Democracy wasn’t perfect.

if she could take an hour on the rack with Russert we might as well give her the nomination, as it would prove she could handle the Republican machine AND Al Qaeda, all at the same time, without breaking sweat.

I suppose it depends upon what you want in a president. I not only want someone who can “handle” them, but someone who can defeat them. YMMV

the CIA had concluded that Israel had begun producing nuclear weapons in 1968 based on conversations that Edward Teller had had with colleagues in Israel. As for nuclear test:

Some type of non-nuclear test, perhaps a zero yield or implosion test, occurred on 2 November 1966 [possibly at Al-Naqab in the Negev]. There is no evidence that Israel has ever carried out a nuclear test, although many observers speculated that a suspected nuclear explosion in the southern Indian Ocean in 1979 was a joint South African-Israeli test.

According to wiki, the US began nuclear cooperation with Iran in the 1950s. This led to a research reactor fueled by highly enriched uranium in 1967. In 1975 a contract was signed with a German firm to build a reactor at Bushehr but the Iranian revolution came along before it was completed. In 1976, Gerald Ford offered to Iran a complete fuel cycle including extracting plutonium from nuclear fuel but this never really went anywhere.

Russert did not get her to take the bait, and she clarified alot of the out of context stuff, and kept her cool. I don’t think Russert landed one really meaningful punch on her.

Though he raised a small bruise with her AUMF vote.

OT but couldn’t resist posting from today’s Liz Smith column in the NYPost

“THE CHARMING gift from Judith and Rudy Giuliani arrived just a minute too late to get on my Christmas tree. But the items are classic and will remind through the years of one of the most unusual couples ever to tackle national politics and make a run for the White House.

The Giulianis sent two ornaments – one is a red, white and blue handsome ball representing the patriot Rudy. And the other is a dainty sequin glittering silver high-heeled slipper from Judith – his Cinderella. I noted how their selections reflect each of them and wished them health and happiness.”

Aw…….*g*

People have various comfort levels, and if you’re going to position yourself as the agent of change for those levels, you have to look at yourself first, albeit your run the risk of being hypocritical. That was what this was about, and some of the folks I work have done great things to preserve land and water quality, but they had these ingrained behavior patterns that they didn’t realize, or were in denial about it, and it took doing something like this for them to realize it. And for some, changing behavior is a challenge no matter what. It’s human nature.