Joining us in this effort will be the Alliance for Justice. And tomorrow, AFJ president Nan Aron will join us for a live chat at 11 am ET/8 am PT to kick off this issues series. I hope all of you can join us! From there on forward, we'll be featuring these pieces on the First Monday of each month (law nerds in the audience will get that, I'm sure.).
-- Former counsel to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, has an op-ed in today's NYTimes calling for the establishment of a separate terrorism-court, outside the criminal justice system. On one hand, he has a point that there is a "pre-crime" aspect to terrorism conspiracy prosecutions that is inadequately addressed by the current system. But that doesn't make for any level of comfort with the sort of "out of the public eye secret proceeding" sort of Gitmo-ization of the process that he seems to endorse. Maybe because it isn't fully fleshed out in two online pages, but I'm not inclined to endorse this -- too few safeguards, and too few reasons to trust without them.
-- Which takes us back to an op-ed that Mr. Farmer wrote in 2006 criticizing the Padilla proceedings, which ended with this Justice Jackson quote: "The real complaining party at your bar is civilization."
-- Speaking of Padilla, he is expected to be sentenced in Miami this week. It is worth a reminder that Mr. Padilla was indicted by the US government only after the conservative 4th Circuit called them on violating the constitutional rights of an American citizen by holding him indefinitely with wholly inadequate access to counsel...for years. In case you missed the fantastic coverage that veteran journalist Lew Koch did for us on the Padilla trial, here you go.
-- Stephen Griffen writing at Balkinization takes on the attempt at revisionist history that some factions of conservative legal scholarship are trying to advance. And it is appalling and, worse, an outright lie.
...The basic flavor of the new conventional wisdom is that the internment was justified on the basis of the knowledge available to government officials acting in good faith in the confused months following the December 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor. Later, however, using the benefits of hindsight, “liberals” condemned the Korematsu case as racist and consigned it to the category of one of the worst decisions in the history of the American judiciary. I think exploring this new conventional wisdom yields some insights on the quality of constitutional analysis post-9/11.
One example is in a book written by Judge Posner on Bush v. Gore. Posner suggests that liberals “denounce [Korematsu] from the safe distance of half a century.” He comments that the threat posed by Japan was perceived to be great, “though in hindsight we know that the perception was exaggerated.” Apparently making a comment about liberals today, Posner states: “Liberals detest Korematsu, but not because it allowed pragmatism to trump principle; rather because of suspicion of the military and a sense of shame about the history of the nation’s mistreatment of East Asians.”
I was surprised to find another example of this sort of reasoning in a casebook on foreign relations law by Professors Bradley and Goldsmith. They refer to “intelligence information” about threats from Japanese civilians as if it was credible at the time. They note that Korematsu “is widely decried,” but apparently on the basis of an “ex post perspective” in “hindsight.” They ask students to reflect whether hindsight is “the proper perspective from which to determine the validity of military orders in response to perceived emergencies?”
It would be a shame if these examples were part of a conservative rewriting of constitutional history. This alternate-reality conventional wisdom has no contact with the standard historical literature on Korematsu which has been available for decades. They are bunk and an alarming sort of bunk at that. The internment was condemned by responsible lawyers in 1942 as wrong, unconstitutional, and based on flimsy evidence. All of this was known at the time, not the product of ex-post reasoning by “liberals.”...
It’s not as if everyone figured out decades after WWII that the internment had been a terrible mistake, as Posner would have it. Most responsible lawyers with access to relevant information knew the internment was unjustified at the time. Others without access to FBI files were capable of exercising their common sense judgment to figure out that the evidence available could never justify the deportation of whole families into internal exile.
There are some further obvious lessons to be drawn from Korematsu. Surprise attacks cause fear and confusion. The military and the president are quickly on guard against other attacks that might cost American lives. Fortunately, in WWII we had sensible lawyers in the DOJ who knew the proposed internment went too far. Unfortunately, they were overruled by the War Department and a president inattentive to constitutional rights. But the DOJ lawyers in WWII led by AG Biddle were on the right track and their ex-ante judgments about the true risks of sabotage were proven right by history. Too bad officials in the Bush DOJ were not more aware of this history and their proper role in our constitutional order in the aftermath of 9/11.
Amen.
-- Andrew Cohen at Bench Conference has a good colloquy on the whys and wherefores of Jose Rodriguez lawyering up in the CIA tape destruction case. And what it could mean for the DOJ and the public inquiry into yet another allegation of misconduct, cover-up and overreach in the Bush Administration, and the prospects for oversight thereon.
-- Glenn has some thoughts on hate speech laws, and the consequences thereof.
-- And Paul Kiel at The Muck has some good news for the DOJ's civil rights section. Here's to a heckuva lot more sunshine!
(Jimi Hendrix, Sunshine Of Your Love, live in Stockholm in 1969. Yes, I am in a music mood this morning...)
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Hi Christy!
Well Good afternoon Christy.
Afternoon all. Hope you enjoy the legal catch-up compilation. It’s a bit of a long quote from Stephen Griffen — but it is exceptional analysis that needs to be spread far and wide. The penchant for historical revisionism of late within certain conservative circles (*cough* Lynn Cheney *cough*) needs to be squelched.
In this house we are very concerned with the issue of “Miranda” should the Republicans once again gain entrance to the White House this time next year.
We have some exciting plans for the legal discussion series, btw — am looking forward to this for all of us.
There is a bill pending, HR Res. 888, that a Kos diarist has been all over. It seems to be a “religious” bill…Anyone have an opinion on the implications of it should it get passed or if it is something we should be concerned with? I haven’t heard anything over here about it.
The Bay area has had two decent court rulings in the last two weeks:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....IUC2V1.DTL
appeals court uphold SF insurance program
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....DUDVGQ.DTL
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Saturday, January 12, 2008 (SF Chronicle) Appeals court snuffs out warrantless marijuana search Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer
Christy, looking forward to learning something from the series!! Thanks!
And we want to know more about the legal reasons the Bush administration has for holding what seems to be (at least quasi) POW’s incarcerated in forign lands.
FWIW, EPUd
If the GOP is once again successful in winning the WH next year, what can we expect in the way of SCOTUS and federal bench appointments? And how will these appointments affect the possibility of more war?
General Ma’am, Sir!
four posts already this mornin’! yore word processor must be smokin’!
Posner’s gone around the bend ever since his book, Catastrophe: Risk and Response, originally published in early 00s. (He may have jumped off the bridge earlier, but I wasn’t following him that closely.)
The book is about low-probability, high-consequence events. I read (well, scanned is more accurate) it because this is a side interest of mine. Posner uses the economic argument that the cost of catastrophe (1918 flu epidemic, for example, or asteroid hitting planet earth & knocking it out of orbit) is so high that, despite the low probability, huge expenditures to avoid the consequences are economically justifiable.
Since then, he seems to see everything as a catastrophe, or existential threat. Guess he’s got a hammer, and now every problem looks like a nail.
IIRC, the internment of U.S. citizens of Japanese origins was considered wrong pretty quickly after the fact, and it was recognized not as a national security issue, but rather a grab for their property in CA.
I’ve lost all respect for Posner. Unfortunately, his excess of gravitas and brain skills means that the wingnuts will have an intellectually strong man in their corner for years to come.
I never said the problem was solved — not by a longshot. But rubbing Dick Cheney’s nose in his failed strategery was more than I could resist this morning. *g*
How will a Republican packed court affect Mr. and Ms. American people like my lady and me, should the GOP win next November?
If Obama is the next prez, he’ll appoint a Supreme who will vote with the SCOTUS majority, in the interest of bipartisanship.
What is a “liberal”????
How does following the Constitution make one a liberal?
How does being against Unitary Executive make one a liberal?
How does being against unnecessary wars of choice, make one a liberal?
How does being against torture make one a liberal?
How does being against kidnapping people and sending them to torture camps the world over, make one a liberal?
How does wanting accountability from the government, make one a liberal?
How does wanting the government to abide by and uphold the rule of law, make one a liberal?
What exactly is a liberal and why is it a bad thing?
Fantastic! I look forward to it!
Waving wildly to Christy and all firedogs! oh yeah, I’m all for the squelching
Hey, better watch what you say or you’ll be locked up for treason. (Without trial, I might add.) /snark
My girl is upstairs looking at replays of the talking brains from this am. And she’s hungry. And it’s French toast time in bed. She has political impressions for me.
Are there other countries that have such courts, & if so, which ones?
LOL
Hi Christy,
The new series sounds terrific. Some lawyer names come immediately to mind for extending invites to.
Scott Horton, No Comment blog at Harper’s
Glenn Greenwald
Michael Ratner, CCR
Nadine Strasser
Kathleen Sullivan, Stanford U.
David Boies
Marjorie Cohn, National Lawyer’s Guild
Lawrence Lessig, Stanford U.
“What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label “Liberal?” If by “Liberal” they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer’s dollar, then … we are not that kind of “Liberal.” But if by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.” [September 14, 1960]”
JFK
Nice quote. Thanks for that.
Greetings!
This should be a really interesting set of threads. And invite FITZ!!!! If he won’t come, I recommend “extraordanry rendition” to FDL HQ.
And I’d bet John Dean would come. He’d sure be an interesting discussion.
And don’t know who it would be, but go find the most senior public defender in NYC who’s actually still trying cases. Let him talk about whatever HE thinks is important.
Boxturtle (You could invite Gonzo, but I don’t think he’d come)
Posner said something sensible? It’s good you noted this one, ’cause it doesn’t happen very often…
Thanks for setting this up Christy, I look forward to seeing what you have in store.
I look forward to this legal series, Christy. Thanks.
This is great. Can’t wait. Very needed. By everybody. Wish more people would be seeing it. I’ve called Bush all manner of names here and elsewhere- not (always) just to engage in namecalling but because over and over and over his policies and actions infuriated me. I just wanna be clear before I make my comment. I think Bush is a prick.
He told us his justices would be ones that interpretetd the law didn’t legislate from the bench and all that happy horseshit. But he’s where he was clear, honest, ud front and followed through on his promise. He said if he got re-elected he’d appoint more justices like Scalia. Not enough people apprteciated what that meant or how vitally important it was. Not enough people appreciated how critical judicial appointments (of all judges, not just SCOTUS justices) are. So Bush gets re-elected and he did exactly what he said he would. In a way, you can’t fault Bush. He said he was going to appoint assholes and we re-elected him. Again, the msm is out to lunch. I wish more people would tune into this series. We gotta share the knowledge we gain from it with friends and acqaintances of every political stripe. This is of critical importance and will get only passing play from the msm. We need to help people get beyond the “liberal judges legislate from the bench” bullshit.
When does this start? Tomorrow? Bring it on!
Fitz!
Seriously — this sounds like a great series Christy. Thanks for setting this up.
Hawaiians of Japanese descent who represented a significant fraction of the islands’ population were not interned. This is, of course, where Pearl Harbor was located. Yet there was no wave of sabotage. So even in practical terms it was known early on that Japanese Americans posed no threat. It was (surprise) about racism pure and simple.
Me too. This is gonna be great. These last two elections have been soooo close. Judicial appointments aren’t talked about nearly enough and they effect us loooong after they leave office. Voters need to know more than the platitudes the R’s serve up.
Perhaps it went a little further than rascism. Japanese americans owned some nice California real estate that ended up somehow in the hands of others I believe. Follow the money.
Hey, let’s not confuse the arguement with facts. /snark
Yep. See my penultimate paragraph @ 13.
We need to stop appointing fascist judges.
-Jonah Goldberg
Thanks Christy for bringing this to us non-lawyer types as well. I continue to education myself in this area and find I bump into loophole after loophole. It is frustrating. I welcome hearing from people who make this their life.
Please excuse how some of us will have questions that may seem obvious to others. I could run circles around people who are not in my area of expertise so it is all the more critical that I put aside lawyeristic intimidation and proudly take my position as a lay person.
Then there is this from my scandals list:
Yeah, the Bushites have learned from Korematsu.
LS asked:
What is a “liberal”????
How does following the Constitution make one a liberal?
I’ve always considered that a conservative position.
How does being against Unitary Executive make one a liberal?
I’ve always considered that a conservative position.
How does being against unnecessary wars of choice, make one a liberal?
I’ve always considered that a conservative position.
How does being against torture make one a liberal?
Because you hold morality to be more important than results.
How does being against kidnapping people and sending them to torture camps the world over, make one a liberal?
Because a conservative would want the brought back to the USA to be tortured. Our laws should be changed to permit this.
How does wanting accountability from the government, make one a liberal?
I always considered that a conservative position.
How does wanting the government to abide by and uphold the rule of law, make one a liberal?
I always considered that to be a conservative position.
Bush would like you to believe he a conservative Republican. He’s just Bush and IMO he’s neither conservative NOR republican. He really IS a Great Uniter, he’s got conservatives and liberals agreeing!
Boxturtle (Will we see Buckley and Jackson on the same stage this year?)
should i laugh or cry?!
Actually there were camps in Hawaii. When I was stationed there in the AF, I worked with folks who had been in them (with their parents) during the early days of WWII.
From wiki on Hawaii internments. The primary point was because Hawaii was terriotory and not a state at the time, Martial Law was used.
Here’s some info I found via google. I don’t know the accuracy.
My italics.
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/camp.html
Japanese farmers owned some of the best “truck farm” land in Ca and OR. Earl Warren, first as Atty Gen of Ca and then as Governor, was one of the major proponents of “removing” the Japanese.
me too.
check back 2 aisles previous, up in the bleachers. there would be a warm cuppa waitin’ for ya, if only Kiddo weren’t so fulla fire today.
Those in power need tools to control us democratic folks. All they do is tap into our natural fears, deep within our psychic.
Fear and loathing of those separate of ourselves goes back to bands, small groups of people of common heritage. They are a family band thus practiced incest long before such terms were in our language or had any taboos. It takes so little to open up human suspicion of a particular racial and ethnic group. It sits ready for activation right beneath our surface. It is our rational mind based on knowledge that keeps us from following our primitive urge.
It took so little to create “Jap” scare. Now, Arab scare. It won’t end. We need to be vigil and call it out every time it lifts its ugly head.
My dad - always and I mean always - reminded me that conservatives have opposed all the things everybody - themselves included - takes for granted today. “Why should we listen to them? If we listened to them there never would have been a New Deal.”
Now thats my kind of “Liberal”. JFK is my personal hero, has been since I was a kid(doesn’t hurt to have the same birthday, grow up in south Boston, get to touch Kennedy family Bible care of John McCormick, and watch the Kennedy clan in the St Patty’s parades every year.
But what John F Kennedy stood for, a vision of equal justice and opportunity for all and railed against those who would have it differently!
Christy, I look forward to being informed on this very important topic!!
As a first year law student, somewhat of a political junkie, and a frequent lurker here… I can’t wait! Thank you for doing this.
In San Francisco, Japanese Americans owned homes and businesses in one of the prime parts of the city, the Western Addition. Developers continue to fight over this piece of real estate. The Japanese Americans are now squeezed into a small area (wonderful restaurants and great place to shop) living in small quarters. Still the area is prestine as is the Japanese tradition.
By the way, they did not get the Western Addition back. It wallows to this day.
First year law student? Know what? Next year is worse.
Kidding.
Thank you much, Christy.
Really looking fwd to it.
Oh, btw. peteyperp found the cookie crumb trail & is happily munching up in the bleachers a few rows back.
No you’re not :-) I’m a part time student, so I’ll still have two first year classes to take next year.. my second year (”work you to death” year) will actually stretch over two years. Yippee. :-)
My reply disappeared. I should have said there were no mass internments of Japanese Americans in Hawaii. Martial law is not the same as internment behind barbed wire and watch towers. And many of those waiting to repel a possible Japanese invasion and/or enforcing martial law were Japanese Americans.
First year law student? Know what? Next year is worse.
lol. Now, cut it out, BFL.
Welcome wini. Next two years are easier - BFL speak with forked tongue.
You are correct that there were no mass internments at the level of the mainland in Hawaii but there were internments. You’re intial statement was that there were NO internments.
Semantics yes but…
Ok. I’m not. But I shouldn’t have said it. Maybe I’m wrong, though. I don’t remember law school that well because I was always drunk. Do you go to class? Let me know what it’s like, OK?
But, ouch. You work and go at night? That’s hard. People that do that have my respect. Tons of it.
Thanks! Every bit of “good” news helps at this point.
Shouldn’t wini stop lurking here and get back to reading about hairy hands and scales tipping over on train platforms?
I work 40 hrs and go to school four nights/week. It’s not quite as horrible as it sounds, but it’s not what I would call fun, either. I wish I could be drunk all the time …
Yes, she should! On that note… cheers~
Hello 240 appointments of loyal Bushies, each a Federalist Society member to the federal trial and appellate benches to be exact.
Hello Amy White Water Girl Scout St. Eve in the Northern District of Illinois.
Hello D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals with the imprimatur of several loyal Bushies.
Hello Cadre of State Secret Federalist Society members marching to their Bushie waving the State Secrets sword to cover law breaking by Bushies.
Hello Bush Puppet former White Water Boy Scout Brett Kavanaugh to the D.C. Circuit Appellate Bench.
Let’s drill down a bit shall we?
Many of the Bush appointees to the federal bench, and many appointees who have not litigated as US Attorneys have no federal litigation experience in a federal courtroom whatsoever. Do you want a doctor talking care of you who has done no residency training? How about having a delivery truck driver crack your chest?
Brett Cavanaugh is on the D.C. Circuit bench. This Court of Appeals decides on all the crucial cases that impact government eminating from Washington D.C. including many terrorism cases there, and cases on the relationship between the three branches of government. Some argue it’s the most important circuit, but that’s an over simplification.
As Jeralyn Merritt has said, he may be the most unqualified judge in decades (but actually he has a ton of competition on the federal bench):
Former Starr Deputy Brett Kavenaugh Confirmed to Circuit by Jeralyn Merritt
From Jeralyn:
Former Ken Starr Deputy and Bush water-carrier Brett Kavenaugh was confirmed to a seat on the D.C. Court of Appeals. He may be the most unqualified appeals judge to be appointed in decades.
Or take the case of Janice Rodgers Brown:
Brown has no federal litigation experience whatsoever. She was a Right Wing Bushie who was on the California State Supreme Court. Brown is often written about as the most extreme Bushie Judge as well as the least experienced. But she gets plenty of competition from people like ole Brett.
Bush Packs Court with No Experience Extremests
This means a whole progeny of State Secrets rulings. This means you will never find out how this incompetent government has helped to facilitate the deaths of thousands of Americans both during 911 and during Iraq. Sybil Edmonds’ appeal was crushed when the Supreme Court could not muster four cert. votes when the ACLU appealed for her.
And the beat goes on. And Apathetic America yawns. Christy’s series is an antidote to what I call the ethos that is Apathetic America.
jayt is right. don’t listen to me. I was a miserable MF-er in law school. Complete grouch. Most people weren’t as miserable as me and I hope you’re not. You don’t need to be. Enjoy as much as possible.
It’s not semantics. I stand corrected, but it would interesting to know who precisely internees were in Hawaii.
I don’t know what the criteria were but like I said in the beginning, I worked with a couple of folks when I was stationed in Hawaii in the late ’70s/early ’80s who had spent time in the camp on Sand Island. I have no idea what there parents or family may have been doing at the time of the internment, just know that they happened.
Don’t know if you mentioned it, but to me the DC Circuit is important because, as I recall, an appellant can file NLRB appeals there. That court can really fuck working people.
How long did Kavanaugh work at Kirkland & Ellis, do you know? If he wasn’t doing litigation, what was he doing?
Not defending Kavanaugh. Don’t get me wrong. But I don’t know that a lack or minimal amount of trial experience is disqualifying. For example, I don’t think it’s bad to have a mixture of academic types (not that Kabvanaugh is one)sprinkled in on the appellate bench.
This subject reminds me of all the propaganda films and current TV series (CSI comes to mind) in which a Quaker refuses to take up a weapon and kill Japanese or some variation on the theme. We were portrayed as sending our naive teenage children to Vietnam as a volunteer and unwittingly was a pawn of the Vietcong and had to be rescued by a machine gun toting marine.
Recently CSI took up the subject to solve a murder that happened directly after WWII of a Japanese American who was in an internment camp and after the war he tried to understand what happened to his son, who volunteered and was killed in action. Guess who was at the internment camp? A good Quaker girl.
In pops the same old theme. She has an affair with the Japanese American who is married, causing havoc. It is implied that this contributes to the hatred other Japanese Americans has toward him in which you can now fill a football stadium of suspects.
If I don’t have Alan Ladd, the Quaker medic who finally takes up the machine gun screaming, “You dirty Japs”, after his friend William Bendicts is killed, I have a bad Quaker girl screwing around with married internment camp detainees.
I guess this just goes to prove that even Quakers will see the light one day and know their government war policies are for their own good. They will also make certain that the mass information the public receives comes from Big Brother.
How about taking up the subject of maligning a groups who dares to oppose a pro-war position?
Not to mention eggshell skulls.
Christy, dear soul.
You’ve been not only discovered at long last, but complimented.
Bout time. ;->
Here is a December 2001 NYT article “blast from the past” which mentions why Guam was not selected but GB, Cuba was… interesting read for the date.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f...../Terrorism
Cold Case, not CSI.
But yes, QG, yours are almost universally maligned and un-mainstreamed within the entertainment industrial complex.
My bad. It was Cold Case. You see they all blend into one for me. Gray by any other shade is still gray.
I am starting to think that terms like liberal and conservative have reached the end of their useful lives. Also fascist.
Kavanaugh was confirmed on May 26, 2006 on a vote of 57-36 while the Republicans still were in the majority and while the Democrats still refused to act like an opposition party. I agree he was a partisan hack without legal or judicial skills. This is what I had to say about this from my sandals list.
137. The stacking of the federal judiciary with unqualified rightwing hacks; the role of the Gang of 14 (7 Democrats and 7 Republicans) who came together to avoid the nuclear option and push hyper-conservative judicial choices: Janice Rogers Brown (DC Circuit), William Pryor (11th Circuit), and Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit); no agreement could be made on two others William Myers and Henry Saad and their names were eventually withdrawn. The Gang of 14 was also involved in the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh (also to the important DC Circuit). Kavanaugh had no trial experience but had worked for essentially partisan causes, such as Kenneth Starr’s Clinton investigations for 5 years, the 2000 Florida recount, and as an Associate Counsel in the current Bush Administration where he worked to nominate and confirm unqualified, radically conservative candidates rather like himself.
On June 27, 2007, Senator Patrick Leahy raised the possibility that Kavanaugh might be prosecuted for lying to Congress. In testimony, Kavanaugh said he had taken no part in developing the Administration’s policy with regard to enemy combatants. Recent articles in the Washington Post indicate that he had.
I agree with you. It’d be great to have more people with academic experience for a lot of reasons. But if you’re going to sit on the bench in federal cases, I think (my bias) you make a much better judge if you’ve tried cases in federal court and felt the sting of the predominantly pro Government former US Attorneys that populate most of the fedearal bench, watched them consistently rule against you on FRE calls, watch them constrict your ability to cross examine, and watch them bring their prosecutorial agenda to the bench relatively intact.
I don’t know how long Brett Kavanaugh was at Kirkland & Ellis. He was a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, as well as Judge Alex Kozinski of the Ninth Circuit and Judge Walter Stapleton of the Third Circuit.
I didn’t mean Kavanaugh hasn’t litigated. I was talking about trial experience in a federal courtroom for a federal judge. We have a number of appellate judges and trial judges on the federal bench who don’t have any, as paradoxical as it sounds, and no light is usually shone on that. I don’t doubt he’s written some federal appeals–or I hope he did while at Kirkland & Ellis.
Stapleton has praised him highly, and I believe that is fluff.
Christy, I think that picking Hendrix’s version of Sunshine of your Love was a good one, but his Star Spangled Banner may have been better considering the state of this union we find ourselves.
Just a thought
I have come to prefer “progressive” to “liberal”.
I hope your series examines things a bit more broadly that simply judicial appointments. These are critical, of course…and we are talking about having a 12 year cycle of Federalist judge appointments if another Republican wins in 2008. That basically means a generation purge of judges that actually see the Constitution as a barrier to the Government and corporations stripping away our rights.
But as well I hope that there is some discussion of the Appointments of AUSA’s and the role of the DOJ and WH Counsel in establishing legal positions and arguments about Executive power and reach. This Administration has essentially purged the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division and replaced it with lawyers that, instead of protecting the rights of minorities from persecution, have actually introduced law suits and actions that are designed to weaken access of poor and minorities to the polls.
I like progressive too although I am also a liberal. Progressive implies progress and for that you need facts and plans that work. Conservative to me means someone who can’t distinguish between their positions and their beliefs so once they have a position facts won’t change it.
Not to keep flogging my scandal list but it covers a lot of court cases as well as the USA scandal, torture memos, Gunatanamo cases, SCOTUS decisions, etc. In fact, my 301 and 303 entries are on appeals court cases. I usually wait for these to make it to SCOTUS before including them but these two were really egregious examples one Nelson v. NASA in the 9th Circuit the court did a good job on the other Rasul et al v. US (same Rasul different case) in the DC Circuit was just atrocious.
I predict now that State Secrets has become the darling of DOJ and attorneys for government agencies, you will have a host of candidates for your list soon. The Supreme Court denied cert. in Sybil Edmonds’ appeal to shine light on the FBI and its refusal to translate what might have been information on the 911 attacks, and the D.C. Circuit, 14 of which are hard core Bushie judges supported State Secrets in blocking Edmonds.
What always tickles me are these commentaries on law blogs and others as to which is the most Conservative Circuit. My answer is every last one of them.
I would say the 9th still has some sane judges.
Besides a slew of State Secrets Privilege Cases
threatening to curtail your right to know how your government is conducting itself (incompetently but we’d like to know the texture of the incompetence)
we now have the new Banana Republic Phenomenon where appellate courts (including the Eleventh Circuit and the D. C. Cirucit) are now sealing courtrooms at oral argument and picking and choosing who can be present at oral argument, and we also have them sealing whole dockets, and the entire file from public view. The D.C. Circuit did this in the Sibel Edmonds appeal against the F.B.I. and the Eleventh Circuit has eggregiously done it in several instances, and the Clerk has lied about this and been caught lying.
Often the Courts i.e. their judges and DOJ are the biggest law breakers.
To be sure, Hugh, particularly the one married to a federal defender. But if you start going circuit to circuit, the vast majority of judges on them are pretty conservative, and consistently so, particularly on criminal opinions, and the D.C. Circuit is overall very conservative
I also like the colorful antics of Alex Kozinsky, even when I don’t agree with some of his rulings. I applaud that he writes prolifically, and I sure don’t agree with much that Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner does–his political philosophy or his opinions, but I appreciate his prolific writing. Most judges hide; those two do the opposite–they are out there in public conferences and are proflific writers.
Ninth Circuit Blog
Orders pertaining to the disposition of judicial misconduct and disability complaints against federal judges sitting in the Ninth Circuit will be publicly available via the Internet, beginning January 2008.
There have been hundreds of legal blogs now, and many of them that track and do commentary on opinions and judges specifically on each federal circuit are springing up.
7th Circuit Wiki
I think in some small way, they increase access to the Courts.
in re above peteyperpprose:
i rest my case.
i promise not to bother u dawgs about this again; i think….
i am not a troll.
Impeccable posts Adie. Heightens my learning curve on the issues exponentially.