David Sirota has an interesting column today about the intensely negative response to Mike Huckabee's populist campaign among the establishment media - especially the Republican media:
...Next to John Edwards (D), [Mike Huckabee] is the "classiest" presidential candidate, explicitly deriding "plutocracy" and "the Club for Greed" that he correctly says runs Washington.
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To those with money and power, Huckabee is committing the worst sin. His class rhetoric puts his Christian religion's altruistic, meek-shall-inherit-the-Earth tenets above Washington's free market fundamentalism. And the cultural roots accompanying Huckabee's cause are even more appalling to the limousine crowd. This Republican apostate is not an Ivy Leaguer putting on a wink-and-nod show. He's a former Baptist minister from a low-income family who was never scrubbed by an elite brush — meaning he might actually believe in his class crusade.
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Recall that the media portrays Bush's alliance with the religious right as proof of his convictions. Huckabee's alliance with the same religious right is subtly cast as a sign of supposed ignorance. Bush's rhetorical gaffes are often painted as endearing — evidence that despite his silver-spoon pedigree, he is the authentic "average American man" thinking "in a common-sense way," as Republican commentator Peggy Noonan wrote. Huckabee? The Weekly Standard calls him "a village idiot" and a "rube," while Noonan derides him for "populist manipulation."
Bush, you see, was always an aristocrat underneath the "windshield cowboy" veneer. He is the son of a president, a Skull-and-Bones man — ruling class all the way.
Huckabee, on the other hand, is a real-life regular guy. He views religion as more than just a convenient political cudgel, truly did pull himself "up from the bootstraps" — and his class grievances are personal. The well-heeled narcissists in the media and political Establishment are appalled. They see Huckabee as a country bumpkin getting uppity.
Once I get past the "OMG what if he wins?" panic, the exciting thing about the Huckabee campaign is that it has the potential to completely blow up the GOP's Flyover Strategy. The Republicans have successfully positioned themselves as the party of the ordinary, decent, hard-working, devout, salt-of-the-earth people of Middle America who are the backbone of this country, and the Democrats as the sneering, out-of-touch coastal elites who disparage and patronize them.
In the past, all the GOP had to do was trot out a Hollywood actor or well-connected Yalie who could play the part of Reg'lar Guy Who Knows His Scripture, and hordes of working-class evangelicals would turn out to vote for him. Sure, they might grumble a bit when the pro-corporate agenda took precedence over banning evolution, abortion and homosexuality, but they got enough bones thrown their way to convince themselves that they were supporting a decent, godly man.
Well, now there's an actual working-class evangelical candidate on the Republican side who is playing up Christian principles of compassion and social justice, and the Republican party establishment is so terrified that he might be sincere that they're falling all over themselves to deride him as an ignorant hick. Peggy Noonan is suddenly horrified by the GOP's pandering to religious "idiots," and Chuck Krauthammer essentially accuses Huckabee of using his Christianity as a weapon.
So how about it, salt-of-the-earth evangelical "values voters"? Feeling like maybe you've been used by people who hate and disrespect you, and have no intention of actually delivering on your agenda? Maybe not feeling quite so eager to march out to the polls to vote for yet another corporate shill?
I don't know whether to gloat or commiserate.
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I would temper that with the notion that absolute power, corrupts absolutely…
So how about it, salt-of-the-earth evangelical “values voters”? Feeling like maybe you’ve been used by people who hate and disrespect you, and have no intention of actually delivering on your agenda? Maybe not feeling quite so eager to march out to the polls to vote for yet another corporate shill?
Unfortunately, I think you overestimate their acquaintance with reality…
I don’t think there’s going to be a mass revolt, but I think some of the smarter ones will have their enthusiasm considerably dampened after another few months of Huck-bashing.
FYI..
Mike’s humble roots
Smarmy populism
Huck is already corrupt, and I don’t entirely buy into his populism. But it doesn’t matter whether *I* believe it, it’s whether the GOP does.
I think Huckey is the payback candidate for the militant evangelicals. They realize that they got screwed and used, and now they have someone who truly represents them and it’s making the established Repugs crazy.
I’d love to see Huckey be the candidate. He’s bring the Senate and House races down with him and further destroy a rapidly disintegrating Republican party.
He’s a former Baptist minister from a low-income family who was never scrubbed by an elite brush — meaning he might actually believe in his class crusade.
“Might” is probably a good choice of words. If what I read about his history as the gov of Arkansas is correct, he “might” be the first Repub prez to not be in it so that his friends can make money. Huck seems to like the ‘perks of office’ his ownself…
Ahem.
I know Mythbusters.
Some of my best friends are Mythbusters.
Mike Huckabee is no Mythbuster.
As an Edwards supporter, my biggest regret is that Edwards is not nearly as personable and charming as Huckabee. If Edwards had Huckabee’s talent for self-effacing humor and improvisation, he’d be dominating right now.
Beagle Eyes!!! That diary was one of the best I have ever read, I’m so glad you saved it and used it here!!! Brilliant.
Personally, I would take Mike Huckabee over any of the potential Neocon types…he’s not a bad person the way some of those in power are…but I’m not endorsing him…I’m just sayin’. He’s holding his own against some of their viciousness, and I’m for that.
He’s kind of an accidental mythbuster.
Good one!
In a Buster sort of way.
Maybe we should storm his next speech calling for more Irony.
Omigod. The resemblance is astonishing.
I think you’re probably right. The media don’t like Huck any more than Edwards - on the other hand, Edwards doesn’t have a whole mob of evangelicals behind him.
Hi Eli, is this like TBogg’s Thursday Basset Blogging only Friday?
That dog at the top reminds me of Cleo on that old tv show “The Peoples Choice”. Lahoma says good night. And so do I. ;0)
OT
I was just listening to Rachel Maddaox on AAR. It snowed in Baghdad for a couple of hours this morning. First time in 100 years.
According to reports, no violence was reported in the city during the duration of the snowfall.
Namaste.
Actually, I think this is pretty close.
Despite getting two seriously fundy-pleasing new SCOTUS members, the TheoCons are not at all pleased with what BushCo has done. He’s done a lot more for the Chamber of Commerce types (to say nothing of the NeoCons), and the TheoCons are more than a little put out. No serious push on abortion, same-sex marriage, or any of their other pet peeves.
They. Are. Not. Amused.
At. All.
I think it’s a beagle. I hope so, anyway…
OT: The Secular Humanist Jihadi Strike a Blow Against the Theocrats and Dominionist Wankers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16R4aeYBXww
Jay Spears: SMAK DEM CHRISTIANS DOWN
RayBob’s Instant Review: Hilarious, on a scale of 1-10.
No violence during the snowfall?
All together now: Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
So if we could perfect weather control technology, we wouldn’t *need* more troops!
I have similar feelings. Not just to Huckabee, but to a few other Republican candidates, like Romney or even Paul.
What I mean, is that some of the Republicans have one area or subject which impresses me.
However, I find many more areas or viewpoints of disapointment. Which is why, like you, I cannot endorse ‘em.
It’s basically looking for the silver lining.
But, with all the PR folk these candidates surround themselves with, I get the feeling some of this is gimmick or catch-phrases. Just something to say which makes people say ‘Yeah, that is what I want!’
Stuff like change or Washington outsider. Populist.
In fact, what I want to see every time I hear one of these candidates, any of these candidates, say they have done this, or will do that — What I want to see is that Eddie Murphie comedy bit where he’s all like:
What have you done for me lately?
What have these suckers, any of them, done for me lately? Skipping votes, not pushing legislation which may make people sweat. Where is the outsider, who is leading change? I don’t see any. I see a buncha status quo, with the true changers getting 1 to 10 percent of the vote.
Looks to me, that America doesn’t really want change at all.
Takin’ Our Country Back, One State At A Time
Vermont leads nation in professional politician scphinter tightening!
(SNIP)
Protesters Disrupt Vermont Governor’s State of the State Address
by Peter Hirschfeld
MONTPELIER - A small group of war protesters briefly stole center stage at Gov. James Douglas’ State of the State address Thursday afternoon. Minutes into the governor’s speech, the protesters, who included high school students, unfurled banners bearing anti-war slogans.The contingent of about 10 was escorted without incident by Capitol Police from the House chambers where Douglas spoke, but not before winning the attention of the overflow audience.
Matt Howard, a 26-year-old Burlington resident and member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, spoke with reporters in the Statehouse lobby after participating in the demonstration.
“(Douglas) is a legitimate target, as are all other agents of this occupation,”
One really would think that the religious right might have figured out by now that The Office of Faith-Based Initiatives - well, it hasn’t shown much in the way of initiative(s), now has it?
No violence by the “Iraqis”….
Actually, reports were that they came out of their houses and were “delighted”…..by the 40,000 tons…nevermind….
well it isn’t a tabby
Hence my final sentence. The religious right and the progressive netroots/grassroots are living mirror images of the same experience with their politicians.
I can tell that much *g*
Dateline: New Hampshire
Another facet of the concept that this nation is run by a criminal elite.
(SNIP)
The Winning Ticket: Hillary and Diebold in 2008
By Mike Whitney
“Its not who votes that counts. Its who counts the votes.” Joseph Stalin
11/01/08 “ICH” — – Something doesn’t ring true about Hillary’s “upset” victory in the New Hampshire primary. It just doesn’t pass the smell test. All the exit polls showed Clinton trailing Obama by significant margins. In fact, in the Gallup Poll taken just days before the election, “Crocodile tears” Hillary was down by a whopping 13 points. Her “turnaround” was not only unexpected, but downright shocking. The results for the rest of the candidates–excluding Clinton and Obama—were all within the margin of error. Clinton was the only anomaly. Surprise, surprise.
If this election had been conducted in any other country in the world, the Bush administration would have immediately dispatched an independent team of election observers and demanded a recount. But not in the good old USA, where stealing elections is replacing baseball as the national pastime. Would it surprise you to know that (according to Black Box Voting) the Marketing and Sales Director of the company that tallies the votes (LHS) “was arrested, indicted, and pleaded guilty to “sale / CND” and sentenced to 12 months in the Rockingham County Correctional facility, and fined $2000.” That would be LHS Sales Director Mr. Ken Hajjar. Here’s an excerpt from Bev Harris’s Black Box Voting web site:
“The Diebold ballot printing plant at the time we got records on the overages (that is, more ballots than needed for election; MW) was being run by a convicted felon who had spent four years in prison on a narcotics trafficking charge. No, not New Hampshire’s voting machine programming exec Ken Hajjar, who cut a plea deal in 1990 for his role in cocaine distribution. This was another convicted felon, John Elder, who ran the Diebold ballot printing plant; he’s now an elections consultant.” ( http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-b.....71260.html )
Still feel confident about the election results?
No, this was a Baghdad-specific weather phenomena.
Elsewhere in Iraq, however, the forecast called for a strong explosive front coming through.
Iraq: where the Weather Channel forecasters wear flack jackets.
Huckabee would be electable if he would take the path of peace…like his “Lord” would want him to. Unfortunately, he has to evoke stupid statements to try to sound tough, like…if you mess with America, the next thing you’re gonna see are the gates of hell….Now that is just over the top and not worthy of any Christian belief. Christ is, I’m sure, appalled. Too bad. The thing is…does he say it to get votes, or does he believe that all Muslims are satanic demons….that is the question.
Brilliantly put.
He also used to be fairly reasonable on immigration, and now he’s overcompensating to make up for it.
Turn the other cheek Beagle Eyes. That is what Jesus said.
How does Elmer Gantry translate into Populism? It’s a far stretch for Huckey to be a Populist.
OT: Soeharto reported in a comma. One cannot help but wonder what awaits him on the other side of the great divide. He ruled with a death squad of generals, the torture of children, imprisoned thousands of political prisoners, and deliberately oppression the Indonesian people. Part of his rule included sending entire villages to a “relocation program” to areas ridden with malaria in which they all died within six months. His wife, now deceased, Ibu Tin (known as Ibu ten percent) collected ten percent of every transaction for her own personal coffers. Money sent by governments for earthquake victims never reached the people but went straight to Soeharto’s coffers. Anyone who criticized the government was arrested and disappeared or tortured. It was truly the reign of terror. I lived under the Soeharto regime and I can attest to his brutality.
Exactly. I’m not sure he believes it…I think he’s just trying to get where he wants to get with the Pukes. Just a gut feeling. He doesn’t seem like a killer type of person to me…you know, like Bushco & Co.
Huh-oh. The Good Ship Huckabee sailed into rougher waters today:
Huckabee Michigan supporter John Stahl threatens to jump ship
Especially amusing if you know the players; Keith Butler is the leader of the largest mega-church in Detroit area, who’d already bailed off the McCain campaign. Butler’s been bucking for the chairmanship of MIGOP, too.
“Planning the Next Production: Although his campaign for the Republican Presidential nomination has thus far been a flop, California Republicans are discussing the possibility of retiring U.S. Representative Duncan L. Hunter (R-CA) as a possible gubernatorial candidate in 2010 when incumbent Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) is barred from re-election. Hunter’s tough stances on illegal immigration and border security makes him popular among the conservative base of the GOP. “
Oh please- let it be true- Dunkin Donut hole leadin the gooper race for governor….!
One dumb question Ray - do you ever use your ATM/Debit card at all?
Reason I ask, since you seem to have this view that Diebold and everyone who works there is evil, it seems to me that you’d never ever use an ATM card since most of the machines are made by Diebold and if they are so very evil in all ways, they could do far more damage through monkeying with the ATM system than they could ever do with voting machines.
As always, YMMV
My brother and his family lived in Jakarta during those years…in fact, that scene from that movie…which I can’t remember the name of, where the Europeans slammed through the government barricades…happened to him. All kinds of crazy stories he has/had to tell…
There is the pointy end of truth there.
The snotty bastards have varying degrees of contempt for those they consider inferior.
Even Bush, who later is described as ‘Elite’
is looked down on as a chuckle head.
“The guy you want to have a beer with”.
They don’t drink beer.
The Huckster has a great form of populism a regressive tax program giving billions to the rich and kickin hell out of the poor…..Would Jesus vote for the Huckster’s plan?
Year Of Living Dangerously?
Love that theme.
Huckabee and the Holy Bible would endeavor to put all womenfolk in their places - barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen serving their husbands. Christianity is a male dominant, chauvinistic religion. You may choose to ignore those aspects (even though the bible is riddled through and through with male dominance) but this is a fact. If you want to go back a hundred more years (Dubya has set us back many years already in science, healthcare and biotechnology) then Huckabee is your man.
Believe me, I’m *not* a Huckabee fan. He scares the hell out of me, which I think I made clear. But he scares the GOP too, and it’s making them do interesting and not-very-smart things.
According to EyeWitless local news tonite, I’m an “Edwardian” — the 20% or so of the Democratic party voters who support JRE who’ll be actively courted by the Clinton and Obama campaigns for the next
fourthree weeks.And speaking of class war, THEY started it in 1980. Now, we fight back!
Actually, the “Fair Tax” is a small win for the seriously poor. It’s a huge win for the rich, and a complete disaster for anyone in between.
The Dunkinator!!!
Let’s hear it for the Dunkinator!!
But have you seen his hair — up close?!
That’s the one!! It was based on exactly the years they were there. Scaaaary!! The Europeans had a little “party” community that was pretty interesting…full of intrigue…Noel Cowardlike…lots of booze and lots of “games”…and really, really dangerous…
I always get a printed receipt from my ATM machine, not so much from my touch screen voting thingy. Just saying…
And that makes Eli smile.
*g*
Me too.
It’s *perfect*!!!
The Dems in CA — seriously split between northern and southern CA — would be delighted.
I don’t believe that about him. His wife is certainly not the barefoot in the kitchen type at all. That is Neocon propaganda, because they are the ones that are really threatened. Somehow, this guy is sliding past the Neocons….he’s smart, and he’s witty…and they hate him…heh.
Perhaps Huckabee is a “blessing” in “disguise”…*g* I’m sure he thinks he is in any case!
And since the Diebold company’s so good at printing a receipt from the ATM, why’d they ever come up with a voting machine without a receipt? Just sayin….
Aargh, Hill’s appearance in Commerce, CA, is being aired on C-Span1, she’s regurgitating the Repug memes on Iran, to include the EFP’s… WTF?!
Even as Dunkin Junior is running for his House seat. Could be a lot of dunkin’.
I will be watching the Hucklebee Presidency unfold from Vancouver BC. Not willing to wait for the boxcars to arrive at my door, thank you very much.
I love having The Huckster in the Repug race.
But God forbid he ever get elected President.
Huck has stated (I’m paraphrasing, but you can google it) that Christianity and/or the bible would influence his presidency. Huck also said that he would endeavor to overturn Roe Vs. Wade. Huck criticized Robo-Romney for not killing enough convicts. That’s enough for me. Huck is a dangerous Christian wack job (from hell).
I can go live with my uncle in Toronto…
On voter fraud in NH
The exit polls show the same margin of Hillary victoy as the official vote count- so someone would have needed to fake the exit poll results as well.
There was a massive “undecided” vote in the pre-election polling.
The machines in question are paper ballot counting machines as I understand it- not electronic voting machines- the paper ballots are still there to recount..
It’s not impossible- but I doubt that this was tampering.
It could just be pandering for the primary, but I sure as hell wouldn’t bet my country on it.
it’s not a beautiful day in Myth-ter Rogers neighborhood?
Too bad they don’t know their history. Now this was class warfare.
Sigh. Makin’ me all misty eyed and nostalgic…
I’ve noticed a bit of bitterness, towards the administrations lack of action and false piety, among the fundies in my town. Boy, they were all about George and his promises to bring family values to Amerka. I’m afraid they will still make the same mistakes though, over and over again. It’s as if they see Iraq and the trashing of our Constitution as collateral damage in their mission. I think I’m going to puke.
For all of you CAians out there, here is a really wonderful book (vintage) that does much to explain why SoCal and NoCal are different states. Including that memorable phrase “south of the Tehacape”
http://www.amazon.com/Southern.....0879050071
Southern California: An Island on the Land
The Year of Living Dangerously?
Bob in HI
Oh, I don’t trust the voting machines any farther than I can throw a piano. But the suggestion was that they’d do better fiddling the cash machines than fiddling the voting machines.
Just don’t be afraid to be honest. Not aggressive, just factual.
Now can’t you be nay-borly?
Good. I knew you could.
When SF re-did its Embarcadero, then-mayor Willy Brown had palm trees planted along the rebuilt street. He caught a certain amount of flack for trying to “SoCal” the great city of SF.
The trees, however, remained planted. This was Willie, after all.
Heh, Joan of Arc arose 60 yrs later…
I’m sorry. I’m on your side, but listen up. Romney accused Huckabee of not making difficult decisions…of commuting the sentences of murderers, etc.,…yes, Huckabee did make a huge mistake of pushing for the commutation of a rapist who went on to murder someone..that is true. But…Huckabee’s remarks about Mitt not “killing convicts” is out of context…Huckabee said that he was faced with the difficult decisions of whether to stay executions and Mitt was not faced with those difficult decisions…that is because of the laws of the States that they were Governors of were different…Now, I am against killing people, period…but, his comments have been misconstrued. Huckabee never said that Mitt didn’t kill enough people. He never said anything remotely like that.
Nice picture. We just picked up a sweet cocker from our vet. She was dumped in a crate and had a bladder cyst and dry eye. We lost our little Raven in April and our pup, the bohdisattva, needed a pal so here we go. She is really friendly little thing and we’re hoping with TLC she’ll be ok. Just thought I’d post some GOOD news here!
That is one great insight.
The establishment Repugs will never allow Huck to be the nominee. I’ll bet there are high-level meetings going on right now about what to do about him. They know he is a tool - he’s just not THEIR tool.
And, he said that his status as a former Baptist minister did not affect his role as Governor. That is what he said, whether it did or did not, I don’t know, but he said that it did not influence his role as Governor.
Yes, that’s it.
Yes, they will. Teh media will not (ever?) help the democrats, progressives, (proponents of enlightenment thinking) to disseminate the correct information necessary to sway public opinion regarding the importance of womens’ reproductive rights. That being the case, religious fundys will continue to vote republican (against their own economic interests), democrats will continue to cede ground until Roe V Wade is overturned. Its perfectly fine, however, (perhaps God’s plan) to slaughter Iraqi women and children (including the unborn).
Raven- good news always welcome! Important to keep doing those “minor” things that keep us sane and in touch with our own hearts. xxoo
Just for the record. I find myself defending Huckabee. I’m not really, but I am trying to keep what he has actually said from being spun into some kind of off the wall spiel that he never said. If I’m way off base, as I may very well be, please provide the quotes.
And Hillary worked for a Rose law firm. What’s your point?
Thx, we have had some really bad news here in Athens the last couple of days and we needed to make some kind of positive move.
Unless they think their candidate is the real thing, many fundies will just stay home. Rove pushed the coalition well beyond it’s limits, and it has come home to roost.
Just like most of us will probably continue voting Democratic, just because the Republicans are so damn terrifying.
BTW, there will be a recount in NH…
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....count.html
Amen.
Peace to your house, especially the little bohdisattva and your new pup.
Gawd…they are the terrorizors….I want a better world…please….
The pre-election polls that showed an Obama lead were the result of the Iowa elections.
Many of those late breaking Obama supporters were soft in their commitment to Obama.
The media assault on Hillary and the Hormuz Swift Borat Boats probably returned a lot of people to the Hillary column.
Put it thusly. Imagine this summer you were to be told that Obama was going to come within 3% of the inevitable Hillary Clinton in NH, you wouldn’t have believe such hogwash.
-G
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BFEhkIujA
Huckabee and Evolution. Try this one on for size.
Much appreciated, Raven. She sounds like a sweetie.
I’m sorry for your bad news Raven….
What new pup???
Got it…OMG…how sweet!!!
The bad news isn’t really ours specifically. This maniac they caught killed a woman who went to UGA and they found a woman who had been missing two weeks in a lake in a local park. Our new pup is a rescue cocker who we found totally by accident, just like the bohdi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnNydtwOaWU
Huckabee sez, Watch This Drive!
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5538
A bit more reading, here, on the NH primary.
I think that is generally true. The thousand or so pardons maybe and the idea that having people give him things was ok, probably.