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	<title>Comments on: Late Late Nite &#8211; Sweet Pea&#8217;s Still On The Vine</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/11/late-late-nite-sweet-peas-still-on-the-vine/#comment-1200602</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually Obama stated his opposition to the war long before Edwards did.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many times did Senator Obama vote to reauthorize and fund the war?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually Obama stated his opposition to the war long before Edwards did.</p>
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<p>How many times did Senator Obama vote to reauthorize and fund the war?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/11/late-late-nite-sweet-peas-still-on-the-vine/#comment-1200578</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Obama, while not exactly clean wrt war funding and aggressive rhetoric, has a built-in out, not having been in the Senate when it was voted on.&lt;br /&gt;
She has cards, but I have my doubts that she has the skills to play them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama says he didn’t vote for the AUMF, but when asked if he would have he said ‘probably yes’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama is a hypocrite, opportunistic, machine pol and a confessed cheat (he said he cheated in Iowa because Howard Dean had done it in 2004).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary is simply a triangulator extraordinaire. Nobody knows what she stands for, but she takes a lot of money from people who &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; know what she’ll do for them!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And people are worried if Edwards is a phony?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama, while not exactly clean wrt war funding and aggressive rhetoric, has a built-in out, not having been in the Senate when it was voted on.<br />
She has cards, but I have my doubts that she has the skills to play them.</p>
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<p>Obama says he didn’t vote for the AUMF, but when asked if he would have he said ‘probably yes’.</p>
<p>Obama is a hypocrite, opportunistic, machine pol and a confessed cheat (he said he cheated in Iowa because Howard Dean had done it in 2004).</p>
<p>Hillary is simply a triangulator extraordinaire. Nobody knows what she stands for, but she takes a lot of money from people who <b>do</b> know what she’ll do for them!</p>
<p>And people are worried if Edwards is a phony?</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And to think Janice Rogers Brown was the good guy! Remember how hard we fought to keep her off the Court for her RW views?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think Janice Rogers Brown was the good guy! Remember how hard we fought to keep her off the Court for her RW views?</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/11/late-late-nite-sweet-peas-still-on-the-vine/#comment-1199322</link>
		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;from the article you cite:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It appeared to be the first time that a federal appellate court has ruled on the legality of the harsh interrogation tactics that U.S. intelligence officers and military personnel have used on suspected terrorists held outside the United States since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the undeniable implication. For there exists at common law the principle that ‘no man can be held  accountable for the failure to foresee illegal conduct by another’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yup - torture is legal, and just part of the job, thank you very much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the article you cite:</p>
<p><i>It appeared to be the first time that a federal appellate court has ruled on the legality of the harsh interrogation tactics that U.S. intelligence officers and military personnel have used on suspected terrorists held outside the United States since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.</i></p>
<p>This is the undeniable implication. For there exists at common law the principle that ‘no man can be held  accountable for the failure to foresee illegal conduct by another’.</p>
<p>Yup &#8211; torture is legal, and just part of the job, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Millineryman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millineryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GooD Meaning, Good Morning again and Happy Trails. Just woke up from nap that I started at 6:45 am.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GooD Meaning, Good Morning again and Happy Trails. Just woke up from nap that I started at 6:45 am.</p>
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		<title>By: solai</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/11/late-late-nite-sweet-peas-still-on-the-vine/#comment-1199314</link>
		<dc:creator>solai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding “Put up or shut up”: If I were cynical, I’d worry that Reid’s postponing the FISA vote is all about protecting the Dem candidates. And after the election, they’ll give the telecom companies the immunity they want.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding “Put up or shut up”: If I were cynical, I’d worry that Reid’s postponing the FISA vote is all about protecting the Dem candidates. And after the election, they’ll give the telecom companies the immunity they want.</p>
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		<title>By: RevDeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevDeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not so good morning. Judge on appeals court threw out the GITMO case saying that torture was forseeable!!!! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24654.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FORSEEABLE&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Words fail.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The court rejected other claims on the grounds that then-Attorney General John Ashcroft had certified that the military officials were acting within the scope of their jobs when they authorized the tactics, and that such tactics were “foreseeable.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It was foreseeable that conduct that would ordinarily be indisputably `seriously criminal’ would be implemented by military officials responsible for detaining and interrogating suspected enemy combatants,” Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote in the court’s main opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Judge Janice Rogers Brown dissented with parts of the opinion, saying that “it leaves us with the unfortunate and quite dubious distinction of being the only court to declare those held at Guantanamo are not `person(s).’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘`This is a most regrettable holding in a case where plaintiffs have alleged high-level U.S. government officials treated them as less than human,” Brown wrote.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so good morning. Judge on appeals court threw out the GITMO case saying that torture was forseeable!!!! <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24654.html" rel="nofollow">FORSEEABLE</a>.</p>
<p>Words fail.</p>
<blockquote><p>The court rejected other claims on the grounds that then-Attorney General John Ashcroft had certified that the military officials were acting within the scope of their jobs when they authorized the tactics, and that such tactics were “foreseeable.”</p>
<p>“It was foreseeable that conduct that would ordinarily be indisputably `seriously criminal’ would be implemented by military officials responsible for detaining and interrogating suspected enemy combatants,” Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote in the court’s main opinion.</p>
<p>Judge Janice Rogers Brown dissented with parts of the opinion, saying that “it leaves us with the unfortunate and quite dubious distinction of being the only court to declare those held at Guantanamo are not `person(s).’</p>
<p>‘`This is a most regrettable holding in a case where plaintiffs have alleged high-level U.S. government officials treated them as less than human,” Brown wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning, pups.  It’s TOMC and Bob Herbert in the NYT today.  TOMC has turned her attention to the Republicans.  She says there’s something about Mitt Romney’s perfect grooming, his malleability and his gee-whiz aura that seems to irritate both the other candidates and the voters.  Well, he certainly irritates me.  Mr. Herbert says the significance of Barack Obama’s achievement is the fact that he might well be fashioning a positive change in the very character of our nation.  I think that may be a bit hyperbolic, but I haven’t had my tea yet so I may be being cranky. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are now ready, and I’ve got toasted Thomas’ English muffins with a variety of jams.  Try the pear preserves — there’s no sugar in them, just pears, concentrated grape juice, pectin and lemon juice.  Yummy!  Have a great day.  Elliott — the French toast waffles sound delicious.  I may have to try those…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, pups.  It’s TOMC and Bob Herbert in the NYT today.  TOMC has turned her attention to the Republicans.  She says there’s something about Mitt Romney’s perfect grooming, his malleability and his gee-whiz aura that seems to irritate both the other candidates and the voters.  Well, he certainly irritates me.  Mr. Herbert says the significance of Barack Obama’s achievement is the fact that he might well be fashioning a positive change in the very character of our nation.  I think that may be a bit hyperbolic, but I haven’t had my tea yet so I may be being cranky. </p>
<p><a href="http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are now ready, and I’ve got toasted Thomas’ English muffins with a variety of jams.  Try the pear preserves — there’s no sugar in them, just pears, concentrated grape juice, pectin and lemon juice.  Yummy!  Have a great day.  Elliott — the French toast waffles sound delicious.  I may have to try those…</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Inspectors are endemic of regulation.&lt;br /&gt;
And we all know that regulation hurts the economy (of the .01%)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspectors are endemic of regulation.<br />
And we all know that regulation hurts the economy (of the .01%)</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the top post video is an effective earworm cure&lt;br /&gt;
whew!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the top post video is an effective earworm cure<br />
whew!</p>
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