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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s a Better Campaign Strategist Than Mark Penn or David Axelrod?  Everyone, It Turns Out.</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/whos-a-better-campaign-strategist-than-mark-penn-or-david-axelrod-everyone-it-turns-out/#comment-1197330</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Ned is a true progressive, why would he choose Obama? Don’t understand it. And yes, you do pay your dues because down the line you may need that friend. That’s the way it works - it may not be pretty.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe all these guys are just welcoming Barack back into the Senate. *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Ned is a true progressive, why would he choose Obama? Don’t understand it. And yes, you do pay your dues because down the line you may need that friend. That’s the way it works &#8211; it may not be pretty.</p>
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<p>Maybe all these guys are just welcoming Barack back into the Senate. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: BDBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>BDBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This piece in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/01/09/ST2008010903884.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Post&lt;/a&gt; is interesting because it sounds like Hillary Clinton was just as frustrated with her campaign as many people were.  From the piece&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the last few days in New Hampshire, Clinton was no longer soliciting advice from her aides so much as telling them what to do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It occurred to me when I read this article that the Clintons probably set up the campaign much like they had set up Bill’s.  The only difference is that Bill had Hillary to make sure everything ran right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece in <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/01/09/ST2008010903884.html" rel="nofollow">the Post</a> is interesting because it sounds like Hillary Clinton was just as frustrated with her campaign as many people were.  From the piece</p>
<blockquote><p>By the last few days in New Hampshire, Clinton was no longer soliciting advice from her aides so much as telling them what to do.</p>
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<p>It occurred to me when I read this article that the Clintons probably set up the campaign much like they had set up Bill’s.  The only difference is that Bill had Hillary to make sure everything ran right.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Edwards can old his 15 percent and neither Obama nor Senator Clinton can get a majority of the delegates before summer — which states are winner take all in dem primaries, by the way — then the Convention will decide, and this means that the winning candidate will have to deal with Edwards and the progressives.  This is what we should all be working toward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Edwards can old his 15 percent and neither Obama nor Senator Clinton can get a majority of the delegates before summer — which states are winner take all in dem primaries, by the way — then the Convention will decide, and this means that the winning candidate will have to deal with Edwards and the progressives.  This is what we should all be working toward.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Possible, but I get the impression that Edwards doesn’t really want to be a Vice-Presidential candidate. And judging from the polls in the South, Obama doesn’t need Edwards’ regional pull.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possible, but I get the impression that Edwards doesn’t really want to be a Vice-Presidential candidate. And judging from the polls in the South, Obama doesn’t need Edwards’ regional pull.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Certainly that would have been my preference - no need at all for him to get involved especially at this stage. He could easily have waited out of courtesy until it is clear whether Edwards candidacy is viable or not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly that would have been my preference &#8211; no need at all for him to get involved especially at this stage. He could easily have waited out of courtesy until it is clear whether Edwards candidacy is viable or not.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Basta with the blather, folks. Edwards is the only one walking the talk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Considering the fact Dodd has dropped out…  FISA, and, all…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Basta with the blather, folks. Edwards is the only one walking the talk.</p>
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<p>Considering the fact Dodd has dropped out…  FISA, and, all…</p>
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		<title>By: MyrtleJune</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyrtleJune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Edwards is the only Democrat in this race.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edwards is the only Democrat in this race.</p>
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		<title>By: MeDaVinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeDaVinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;YES, INDEEDY, SADLYYES @ 50:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;im sick of people Talking and SPEECHIFYING&lt;br /&gt;
ACTIONS speak louder than speeches&lt;br /&gt;
Edwards WALKS THE WALK&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just submitted a request to Michael Moore’s news suggestion site to open a can of whoop-ass on the AARP and Divided We Fail wimpy collaborators with fake “bipartisan” types. They better get their wrinkled butts into gear and endorse John Edwards. Now. Check out Mike’s quiet takedown of Hillary Clinton — “will go all Maggie Thatcher on anyone who sneezes in our direction” and highest sucker of health industry lobbying moolah. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now Mike is asking Obama to put on his game face and stop with the bipartisan kumbaya krap, cuz the other side is not going to bipartisan horse puckies on universal health care or when they destroy social security or medicare. Oh, Mike is also asking Kumbaya Obama why he is the 2nd highest slurper of health industry pay-off money. Next to Hillary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Basta with the blather, folks. Edwards is the only one walking the talk.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES, INDEEDY, SADLYYES @ 50:</p>
<blockquote><p>im sick of people Talking and SPEECHIFYING<br />
ACTIONS speak louder than speeches<br />
Edwards WALKS THE WALK</p>
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<p>I just submitted a request to Michael Moore’s news suggestion site to open a can of whoop-ass on the AARP and Divided We Fail wimpy collaborators with fake “bipartisan” types. They better get their wrinkled butts into gear and endorse John Edwards. Now. Check out Mike’s quiet takedown of Hillary Clinton — “will go all Maggie Thatcher on anyone who sneezes in our direction” and highest sucker of health industry lobbying moolah. </p>
<p>And now Mike is asking Obama to put on his game face and stop with the bipartisan kumbaya krap, cuz the other side is not going to bipartisan horse puckies on universal health care or when they destroy social security or medicare. Oh, Mike is also asking Kumbaya Obama why he is the 2nd highest slurper of health industry pay-off money. Next to Hillary.</p>
<p>Basta with the blather, folks. Edwards is the only one walking the talk.</p>
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		<title>By: RayDuray</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayDuray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The war comes home. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ktvz.com/global/story.asp?s=7606190&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obit for a 20 year old from my home town&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war comes home. <a href="http://www.ktvz.com/global/story.asp?s=7606190" rel="nofollow">Obit for a 20 year old from my home town</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: MyrtleJune</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyrtleJune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hadn’t heard that …. Thanks for the link. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They should be fired.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn’t heard that …. Thanks for the link. </p>
<p>They should be fired.</p>
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