When I wrote in this space last Thursday, kinda-sorta-but-not-really predicting an Obama win in the Iowa caucuses, I said that Hillary Clinton had dug herself a hole by creating "doubts about her passion and commitment," which she needed to address in order for her to make a comeback. Is it safe to say her campaign got the message, and that this had something to do with Clinton’s surprise victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday?
If you have any doubts, just take a look at her victory speech that night, where she led off by saying, "I come tonight with a very, very full heart" and told voters "I felt like we all spoke from our hearts," then went on:
I believe deeply in America, in our can-do spirit, in our ability to meet any challenge and solve any problem…. We are in it for the long run. And that is because we are in it for the American people.…
So tomorrow, we’re going to get up, roll up our sleeves and keep going…. We’re going to tap into all of the spirit, the talent and just the plain grit of this great nation again.
We are determined to tackle our toughest problems and stand up to those who most need a champion because we are determined to make America work again for all of our people.
Now, if that talk of grit and rolling up sleeves sounds familiar to you, it may be because you read it here two months ago, as I described the profile I felt the Democratic-leaning portion of the country had already developed for the next president:
Dubya has got the country stuck in the ditch in any number of painful ways. So the candidate people are likely to vote for is the one who gives the best sense of being ready to roll up their sleeves and start digging us out.
The word for that isn’t toughness or ruthlessness, it’s grit.
Now, I’m not about to sue Clinton or her pollster/strategist Mark Penn for plagiarism, any more than I did Obama or his self-proclaimed "keeper of the message" David Axelrod when they took similar advice (though a check would be appreciated, just in case!). The point is that what the American people — at least on the reality-based side of the spectrum — want from their next president is obvious, but apparently the leading candidates and their overpaid would-be Svengalis need an electoral near-death experience before they figure it out.
As Jane wrote last Saturday, Penn had clearly imposed on Clinton "an overt strategy of avoiding the controversial," to the point where to rescue herself she needed to "to do something dramatic. Take the bull by the horns, show that she’s not just an overly scripted politician who will never do anything that’s isn’t ‘safe.’" Thanks to her emotional moment on Monday (and boneheaded TV news efforts to turn it into her "Dean scream"), she managed to pull it off. But why hadn’t her designated genius Penn clued her in before she stumbled on the truth herself?
Similarly, I wrote back in September how David Axelrod had staked Obama to a campaign approach based on personality rather than policies, until persistent indifference in the polls led them to add more substance to his airy rhetoric. But having won in Iowa, Team Obama immediately reverted to a cautious strategy, leading one New Hampshire woman to explain her vote for Clinton by saying, "In the end, she was the one bringing up the real issues about the middle class like college loans. His speeches felt like pep rallies."
It’s probably not a coincidence that after an Iowa victory speech that was filled with inspiring platitudes and very light on policies, Barack’s post-primary address in New Hampshire spent a lot more time on the nuts and bolts of what his "new majority" would accomplish.
It’s so frustrating to see the American people keep making it clear to the Penns and the Axelrods what they want — a candidate who will commit specifically to what needs to be done, with a blood-signed oath to persevere against all obstacles and a convincing rationale for how they’ll succeed — and yet, even given a reprieve, the campaigns apparently can’t wait to start wandering off course again. Even worse, when one of them eventually wins, there’ll be an arrogant, overfed strategist taking credit and asking why anyone ever doubted his brilliance.
I’d suggest that Obama and Clinton fire these guys and hire the American people to advise them instead. But I guess that would make for a hellish time trying to divide up the advertising commissions.



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gritty.
OT, but kos has a post over at, you guessed it, DailyKos about having some fun in Michigan with their open primary. Sounds like a live and in living colour googlebomb to me. If you live in Michigan I think this would be a hoot. So when you finish reading this excellent post by Swopa cruise over to http://www.dailykos.com/
Is Kerry wanting to be Obama’s VP? Is Lamont looking for something?
We’re being fair in this house. We can barely stand Obama or Hillary.
Who cares what John Kerry says? We don’t, and we voted for him.
Yes talk about the issues with passion. Anything else is a waste of time. The GOP will certainly in the general election LIE about the issues passionately so why should WE wait..To talk about the truth with Passion?
Unless you want to avoid the growing fire?
That was a serious kick to the teeth, Kerry delivered to Edwards… 8-(
And Karl Rove is being a dirty little racist today in his remarks on Obama.
I don’t care what Kerry says, and I voted for him too. I agree with Jane that Lamont should have stayed out of the fray. Cutthroat stuff.
I always figure that any candidate of any party will try to go lightly on the issues if they can get away with it.
In the first place, most people don’t really care to know where they stand in any detail- in the second- every specific position they take loses some votes- LOTS of votes in many cases.
Their first choice is to cheer lead.
Their second choice is to throw shit balls at one another
And only desperation leads to actually laying out detailed policy..
I wonder if Al Gore will end up endorsing. Richardson says it’s best for him to stay loose for now.
And completely unnecessary.
Every candidate has a website where their positions are set in cyber-stone. Whoever wants to know where the candidates stand on any particular issue just has to look.
I wonder why they don’t mention this resource more often in their stump speeches, rather than relying on the MSM to get out their message.
Similarly, the blow Hill received from Lamont…
Look who else is Penn and Obama’s political People/Washington Lobbiyist working for trace the conflicts of interest and you will trace who bought whom.
The Health Care industry seems to be very well represented in the Hilary and Obama campaigns.
Bought and paid for should be our refrain.
strange bedfellows and all that….
I like discussions of issues and discussions of the candidates records on these issues.
If Jimmy Carter endorses someone, I will take note.
OK, that’s a terrible position to be in! You’re not going to be able to watch TV or read a paper for the next year — maybe for eight or nine years! ;-)
What I am obviously too ill-informed to understand is why there has to have been any big shift in NH’s votes: NH is not IA, and IA ain’t NH — they are two very different places. Why did anybody expect either of them to serve as unbiased samples of the entire populace of the country?
That said, as was written earlier here today, if all the polls in NH have been demonstrably accurate up to now, then doesn’t that mean that instead of only trying to find reason why the poll was mistaken, one should make D**N sure that the VOTE wasn’t fudged.
It could still end up Hillary/Obama or the other way around.
Therein lies the rub… 8-(
Wow….Mark Penn and Axelrod conflated.
Who wudda thunk?
To me they are two completely different styled stratagists. And I don’t see Axelrod using Rovian rhetoric or tactics like Mark Penn…..you know like Hillary’s last minute 9-11 scare tactic that probably made all Bill Clintons RetHUGlican friends proud.
I’ll be so glad when Feb. 5th. is over with.
I wouldn’t consider Kerry much of an endorsement. I could care less about him. And Ned is big disappointment to me right now.
Senators Kennedy and Feingold as well.
We need something to make the issues more important to people a terror attack or invasion of Iran would help.
The Right was arguing for this up until recently. Funny how things change in order to get a true Lefty we need the same extremes the Right was hoping for.
The only way to prevent this would be if Obama and Hilary were to push to move our troops home now otherwise G.W will be tempted to pull a November surprise.
eh-yup
Oh and just a reminder…NED LAMONT IS A PROGRESSIVE HERO.
If it wasn’t for Ned the whole narrative shift to the Iraq war in the 2004 election, that the DLC Clintonites resisted….. would have never been pushed.
They are basically the two choices left for the Democrats. Edwards is the potential kingmaker with his delegates when he bows out.
I never thought Lamont was much of a candidate-just a lot better than the alternative & great fun to challenge the establishment.
I wont be, I find the time crunch of Super Tuesday to be the biggest obstacle to refining our candidates and getting them to promise campaign pledges, or at least bouncing the people’s input off one another and getting it on record. I would much prefer a more stretched out primary, maybe drawn from the hat a couple of states a week. An elongated regional airing would help distill particular differences, finding more common ground, forcing candidates to listen while honing the message to a solid platform.
OfT – PhysioProf gets front-paged at driftglass:
http://driftglass.blogspot.com…..-mind.html
busted makes appearances in the comments too.
That fact has not been forgotten here. Don’t worry Ned can run for anything and he will have our support.
Well I for one was hanging on the edge of my seat wondering for months who Bill Bradley was going to endorse.
Nobody did. The ridiculous unrepresentative primary season that makes selection essentially over after February 5, unless something awfully unexpected happens to broker the convention is about pure ego and “me first for attention” ism.
Look at the pure mess Carl Levin has made with Michigan.
hey thanks, I love pup stuff *g*
Oh really, glad to hear that, but I would look up above and take a gander at some of the comments. Unlike what some have said Ned was a GREAT candidate, against ALL odds. And the work done by many from FDL helped him, that I know!
True! By then, 30 of the 50 states will have decided anyways… *g*
What a choice. ;0)
I am proud of a country that has the utter stupidity to make a Taser-MP3 player which also can fibrillate the victim and kill them at the same time.
What exactly did Lamont do?
this was one fun post to read swoopa, thanx, let me comment here;
we firedogs speak with the voice of the people, we are the majority, we are not fringe, we are not idiolgues, we are America and we speak with the voice of many
come here progressives, take a dip in the lake of fire and dogs, imerse in the hopes, dreams, desires, EXPECTATIONS of America
Ned Helped FDL allot so don’t worry. what does Ned want to run for next?
Is it me, or does Axelrod look like the V for Vendetta mask???
I dunno. From the Atlantic:
Not many saints in this business.
OT..from Atrios:
link
Obama needs to understand that some of these endorsements he is getting could backfire with folks like Lahoma and me. It could just throw us into the Clinton camp. In this house we do not view you, Mr. Obama, as a rock star.
I’m concerned about Bloomberg buying his way into the presidency…what exactly does he stand for other than money?
Endorsed Obama with a post at KOS.
Why I’m Supporting Barack Obama
by Ned Lamont
im sick of people Talking and SPEECHIFYING
ACTIONS speak louder than speeches
Edwards WALKS THE WALK
I think he likes power too. And the limelight. ;0)
The serial rapists of our country must be thrilled!
Re:
Dec. 9, 2003: Gore endorses Dean
Dec. 10, 2003: MSM begins assault on Dean candidacy
If I remember this, I’m sure Gore does as well.
In politics, you don’t get a chance to walk the walk until you are elected- and then it’s too late.
Has the SURGE achieved any of the benchmarks it was suppose to, I assume that lower gas prices were a Benchmark of the SURGE. WAIT KO DIDN’T EVEN MENTION THAT AS
A BENCHMARK!
Why?
I’m not sure I would travel to CT to help him again.
he has VERY little experience…imo warmonger McCain will trounce him
This guy on Olbermann says, respective to Iraq, that Churchill once said “you can always trust the Americans to do the right thing, once they have tried everything else”. Pretty good Winnie!
Lamont endorsed Obama after Edwards was the one working for him, and Hillary sent his campaign money. Far as I know, Obama did nothing for him.
I take it that ya read HoJo’s and St. McCain’s op-ed…? ;-)
” Iraq is nolonger on the front pages” KO’s guest so it might in GOP eyes be a success.
But instead of nonstop news making Americans dead to the issue a new spat of bad news will now just hit harder.
Ok just who is the head of G.W’s PR dept?
Edwards has his poverty center as isnt holding elective office NOW
No where what Paper got a link? Or are you just being Snarky?
Complete sell-out. Don’t care what Ned runs for – no money from me.
UN REAL
strange – didn’t double click.
Has this been posted..from the Chicago Tribune
link
If there is truth to this article, Donnie McClurkin, “present votes”, Tony Rezko etc are not aberrations…Obama is really a nasty piece of work.
Ok just who is the head of G.W’s PR dept?
Dana Peroxide?
Am I the only one cringing at the thought of George W. Bush banging around the mid-east all by his lonesome?
Oh well – what could possibly go wrong?
Merkins just dont want progressive gov,even though we are 19th in the world in PREVENTITIVE HEALTHCARE, dumbasses
OT/Not – but campaign strategy issue.
Did Hillary’s folks arrange for the “Iron My Shirt” interruption as a sympathy/vote getter? Makes me wonder. It seems so Rovian/Clintonian
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..80854.html
hahhaahahaha………….gulp
invasion of Iran oil and gold goes up the American Dollar goes down?
People are dying…people are tortured….people dehydrated to death during Katrina…war-mongering is still going in full force…no reason to be smiling and smug…and no, I won’t vote for you:
http://s238.photobucket.com/al…..n-bush.jpg
Why are people repeating the headlines that Kerry’s endorsement was a slap at Edwards? Harrrrrdly. Kerry and Edwards disagreed on how to handle the swiftboat attack. Edwards wanted to put it down immediatly. Kerry wanted to let it go and let it get legs and run all over creation as the monster bs it was. Edwards was the vp candidate and had to have kerry handle it. Well, we saw how well that went.
No, people, this was a BIG in your face to the Clintonistas!!! Had Edwards been the frontrunner OR a current member of the capitulation Congress, then it would have been at him, but he’s not either so it is directed at Hillary Clinton. Straight up dis of HRH Clinton. :-D I like that.
media IS controlling the message
Say it ain’t so, Joe… *g*
http://online.wsj.com/article/…..mmentaries
No way. No possibility.
On Lamont (and sorry if anyone has said this) but: Bill Clinton’s campaigning for Lieberman after the Primary (i.e. when he was running as a “CT for Lieberman candidate) is what more than any other single incident made Lamont lose. He has every reason to be bitter about it.
At this point, it looks as, despite support for Edwards (circa 12-17%), it will be a 2 person race in the end. I trust Obama more on the war than Hillary (Obama has spoken out more and earlier against the war), and this was the central issue that Lamont ran on. So, it makes sense for me that Lamont has decided to come out for Obama. And, Hillary should not be surprised. After all, she and Bill could have stayed neutral but chose not to do so during his election.
Too much McCain/Lieberman for my sensibilities.
I just don’t know. It did not occur to me until a few minutes ago when I saw that piece. But, do we know who exactly those guys were/are?
Yup!
Kin I git an ay-Mayn, bruthas and sisthus?
FunnyD
Ummm… I’m left aghast…
Also (on the Iron my shirt) this is so OVER THE TOP, who these days would do this sort of thing? Most of the “nuts” are Evangels, or anti-abortion people, or anti-gay people. This particular tactic is out of the 1910 play book when the women’s suffrage issue was a hot one. Just saying…..
KO killin Rudy re-splicing his commercial.
Okay, just for the sake of argument, suppose Lamont truly believes that Obama is the best choice and will make the best president or is most electable or whatever. Should he support someone who supported him and pay off his political debts, or should be go with what he thinks is the best choice? Is you-scratch-my-back-I’ll-scratch-yours not the essence of the kind of cynical political gamesmanship many here decry?
Leaving aside for the moment the question of his good/bad judgment in choosing Obama as the better candidate…
:-O Man, I didn’t think of thaaaaat! Absolute possibility given the tear ploy. wow! When the admin people in bill clinton’s term said she was ruthless….. well, this sure seems to support that. I believe it could be the case.
Think there were with some radio station.
Evidently, they turned out to be two local radio hosts. You know the kind. Loud obnoxious misogynists with dreams of being the next Howard Stern. Kinda ironic they may have helped her to win NH.
If Ned is a true progressive, why would he choose Obama? Don’t understand it. And yes, you do pay your dues because down the line you may need that friend. That’s the way it works – it may not be pretty.
Is it possible that Lamont, Kerry, Kucinich, and others are supporting Obama, because they know Obama is going to choose Edwards as his VP? Hey, could be. You never know about these things. ;-)
thought about this last nite
Fromm believed that freedom was an aspect of human nature that we either embrace or escape. He observed that embracing our freedom of will was healthy, whereas escaping freedom through the use of escape mechanisms was the root of psychological conflicts. Three main escape mechanisms that Fromm outlined are automaton conformity, authoritarianism, and destructiveness. Automaton conformity is changing one’s ideal self to what is perceived as the preferred type of personality of society, losing one’s true self. The use of automaton conformity displaces the burden of choice from the self to society. Authoritarianism is allowing oneself to be controlled by another. This removes the freedom of choice almost entirely by submitting that freedom to someone else. Lastly, destructiveness is any process which attempts to eliminate others or the world as a whole to escape freedom. Fromm said that “the destruction of the world is the last, almost desperate attempt to save myself from being crushed by it” (1941
feeling my fellow Merkins WANT tp be controlled!feels that way
Loo Hoo you need to read the article that I linked at 67..it’s hot!!
This makes sense to me as well.
OK then I stand corrected. Interesting anyway.
Or does he out of respect for the person he may not think is the best candidate, who took the time to support him when he was an underdog and running as an insurgent stay out of the primary endorsement sweepstakes?
On 9/11 the firefighters, Police and Volunteers got no air protection. Rudy thought that they didn’t need it. After 9/11 Mike Moore on “Sicko” took (9/11 people to Cuba to get medical treatment that Rudy had not given them YEARS LATER, I’m sure that will play well in Florida.
The Cuban vote loves people who make Fidel look good for any reason.
I as a former inmate in the system love the idea of Rudy MAKING the Cops pick up his girl friends Dog Do. That joke alone will get Rudy the convicted vote!
Oh wait Bernie already has that vote lined up.
Great photo that! The fix is in. He’s either going to be McCain’s vp or Hillary’s vp…… Liarman’s going going to be the bridge. Their theme song will be “On the Good BipartisanShip Lollipop”. Feh.
Local to Boston which is a far different perspective than NH, even with all the MA refugees living in New Hampshire now.
Nicely phrased. Agree.
OT..Loo Hoo..EPU’d
This article is really good.
Chi-Trib
Oh and DO worry that JL could even be slated as Obama’s vp, for that matter…
Sorry but the “Iron My Shirt” incident has been pretty decisively determined to by a prank by a bunch of “shock-jocks” out of Boston.
They are part of a program calledToucher and Rick who specialize in crass things like asking girls on the street for dates and if rejected discussing excretory acts…or, making fart noises over the air while interviewing serious folks like Scientists from MIT and such. IOW these guys make armadillos look intelligent. They apparently appeal to the 12-17 males with body hygiene issues demographic.
I hadn’t heard that …. Thanks for the link.
They should be fired.
The war comes home. Obit for a 20 year old from my home town.
YES, INDEEDY, SADLYYES @ 50:
I just submitted a request to Michael Moore’s news suggestion site to open a can of whoop-ass on the AARP and Divided We Fail wimpy collaborators with fake “bipartisan” types. They better get their wrinkled butts into gear and endorse John Edwards. Now. Check out Mike’s quiet takedown of Hillary Clinton — “will go all Maggie Thatcher on anyone who sneezes in our direction” and highest sucker of health industry lobbying moolah.
And now Mike is asking Obama to put on his game face and stop with the bipartisan kumbaya krap, cuz the other side is not going to bipartisan horse puckies on universal health care or when they destroy social security or medicare. Oh, Mike is also asking Kumbaya Obama why he is the 2nd highest slurper of health industry pay-off money. Next to Hillary.
Basta with the blather, folks. Edwards is the only one walking the talk.
Edwards is the only Democrat in this race.
Considering the fact Dodd has dropped out… FISA, and, all…
Certainly that would have been my preference – no need at all for him to get involved especially at this stage. He could easily have waited out of courtesy until it is clear whether Edwards candidacy is viable or not.
Possible, but I get the impression that Edwards doesn’t really want to be a Vice-Presidential candidate. And judging from the polls in the South, Obama doesn’t need Edwards’ regional pull.
If Edwards can old his 15 percent and neither Obama nor Senator Clinton can get a majority of the delegates before summer — which states are winner take all in dem primaries, by the way — then the Convention will decide, and this means that the winning candidate will have to deal with Edwards and the progressives. This is what we should all be working toward.
This piece in the Post is interesting because it sounds like Hillary Clinton was just as frustrated with her campaign as many people were. From the piece
It occurred to me when I read this article that the Clintons probably set up the campaign much like they had set up Bill’s. The only difference is that Bill had Hillary to make sure everything ran right.
Maybe all these guys are just welcoming Barack back into the Senate. *g*