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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1196617</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Iowa was rigged by shipped in kids from Illinois or elsewhere around the country, then Obama isn’t the leader.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If NH was rigged by Diebold, then Hillary isn’t the leader.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, they’re all out some money and Obama &amp; Hillary received far more media attention and boost.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On we go to SC where Edwards might get some ‘favorite son’ boost.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Geez, this whole process is flawed, messy, nasty and awful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least, after Iowa we saw how Obama worked and how his ’supporters’ behave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Didya know Hillary didn’t even have a victory speech prepared for NH? She just spoke a few minutes because it was a surprise to her campaign as well as for everyone else. Diebold to the rescue!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are there &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; states where things aren’t rigged? I sure hope so, for Democracy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Iowa was rigged by shipped in kids from Illinois or elsewhere around the country, then Obama isn’t the leader.</p>
<p>If NH was rigged by Diebold, then Hillary isn’t the leader.</p>
<p>But, they’re all out some money and Obama &amp; Hillary received far more media attention and boost.</p>
<p>On we go to SC where Edwards might get some ‘favorite son’ boost.</p>
<p>Geez, this whole process is flawed, messy, nasty and awful.</p>
<p>At least, after Iowa we saw how Obama worked and how his ’supporters’ behave.</p>
<p>Didya know Hillary didn’t even have a victory speech prepared for NH? She just spoke a few minutes because it was a surprise to her campaign as well as for everyone else. Diebold to the rescue!</p>
<p>Are there <b>any</b> states where things aren’t rigged? I sure hope so, for Democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195708</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And she slapped him. She should not come close to him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for Edwards losing support I think its because NH voters do think about “electability” and with fewer stories and him being lower in the polls they bought into the main event (Obama-Edwards). I also think that Clinton got most of the Biden &amp; Dodd support. Lastly I surely think that Clinton had game on the ground and solid support in any case. I do think she likely got a point due to the idiot pundants on TV (both for mocking her, and because while electability is important there is also a strong faction in NH that wants to buck the norm [or in this case the mini-norm since its not exactly like some Huckabee 5th to 1st turn-around]). Lastly I would add a mini bounce of maybe 1 point due to 50 - 55 degree weather that without a doubt (and I am glad) helped older voters get to the polls amid 30+ inches of melting snow from DEC. Anyway thats my dime store guesses. Since I am not sure how people crossing from one primary to the other impacted the race I have dropped trying to think what impact that might have been - in this race anyone who did not want to vote for one of the many candidates in their own party (or the one they lean towards) could well be unstable!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kerry endorses Obama…and he will likly loose a point :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for political strategy I do not think anyone thinks that they are not all going to push visceral arguments of Change (when not)/Experience (when they dont have it)/ Unity (when practically/effectivly its not possible - ex more of a downside to the people voting for you) / etc. Thus of course Clinton will be anchored by her opponents with the status quo, thus Obama needs a national message of unity to show he can bring something others can’t to make up for lack of experience, thus Edwards trying to hang on as the “just right” (some experience, some change) candidate should another falter. Only thing that makes me an Edwards supporter is I believe he has been enlightened on the important issues to me… but when ignored (or even if not) he has no way to re-invent the tactics of politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And she slapped him. She should not come close to him.</p>
<p>As for Edwards losing support I think its because NH voters do think about “electability” and with fewer stories and him being lower in the polls they bought into the main event (Obama-Edwards). I also think that Clinton got most of the Biden &amp; Dodd support. Lastly I surely think that Clinton had game on the ground and solid support in any case. I do think she likely got a point due to the idiot pundants on TV (both for mocking her, and because while electability is important there is also a strong faction in NH that wants to buck the norm [or in this case the mini-norm since its not exactly like some Huckabee 5th to 1st turn-around]). Lastly I would add a mini bounce of maybe 1 point due to 50 &#8211; 55 degree weather that without a doubt (and I am glad) helped older voters get to the polls amid 30+ inches of melting snow from DEC. Anyway thats my dime store guesses. Since I am not sure how people crossing from one primary to the other impacted the race I have dropped trying to think what impact that might have been &#8211; in this race anyone who did not want to vote for one of the many candidates in their own party (or the one they lean towards) could well be unstable!</p>
<p>Kerry endorses Obama…and he will likly loose a point :)</p>
<p>As for political strategy I do not think anyone thinks that they are not all going to push visceral arguments of Change (when not)/Experience (when they dont have it)/ Unity (when practically/effectivly its not possible &#8211; ex more of a downside to the people voting for you) / etc. Thus of course Clinton will be anchored by her opponents with the status quo, thus Obama needs a national message of unity to show he can bring something others can’t to make up for lack of experience, thus Edwards trying to hang on as the “just right” (some experience, some change) candidate should another falter. Only thing that makes me an Edwards supporter is I believe he has been enlightened on the important issues to me… but when ignored (or even if not) he has no way to re-invent the tactics of politics.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisss</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195700</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Hillary put the IRON MY SHIRT guys there as a stunt to gain sympathy, just like John Kerry shot himself in order to win his Purple Heart. What does it say about the kind of insane crap that Hillary faces that this kind of bizarre ideation can be found on a supposedly liberal blog?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Hillary put the IRON MY SHIRT guys there as a stunt to gain sympathy, just like John Kerry shot himself in order to win his Purple Heart. What does it say about the kind of insane crap that Hillary faces that this kind of bizarre ideation can be found on a supposedly liberal blog?</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195673</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Umm - no he does not support Edwards. He mocks him by calling him a good looking likable guy (policy and leadership is a sign of respect, not…umm your a nice guy).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He also had Liz Edwards on and laughed at her and spent 2 minutes on the trial lawyer/ambulance chaser thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He also clearly likes Clinton far less, and acts like he’s off his meds when she is around or even brought up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm &#8211; no he does not support Edwards. He mocks him by calling him a good looking likable guy (policy and leadership is a sign of respect, not…umm your a nice guy).</p>
<p>He also had Liz Edwards on and laughed at her and spent 2 minutes on the trial lawyer/ambulance chaser thing.</p>
<p>He also clearly likes Clinton far less, and acts like he’s off his meds when she is around or even brought up.</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195642</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“what are we to do … should we stay home”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The best was….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but, but, but - some of the poll companies…they need it..but&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- I was screaming: Shut up and take Tom’s advice - drop the crack pipe. and HOW ABOUT ISSUES and POLICY.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“what are we to do … should we stay home”</p>
<p>The best was….</p>
<p>but, but, but &#8211; some of the poll companies…they need it..but</p>
<p>- I was screaming: Shut up and take Tom’s advice &#8211; drop the crack pipe. and HOW ABOUT ISSUES and POLICY.</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195635</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ahhh… KO looking for a contract.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Money talks for everyone. Damn things are gonna suck when money starts sreaming.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh… KO looking for a contract.</p>
<p>Money talks for everyone. Damn things are gonna suck when money starts sreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: wasabi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195634</link>
		<dc:creator>wasabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE: OK, I’m a stupid male. What was so bad about the Collins piece?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go read Digby.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: OK, I’m a stupid male. What was so bad about the Collins piece?</p>
<p>Go read Digby.</p>
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		<title>By: joze46</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195576</link>
		<dc:creator>joze46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If one starts to take a good look at Obama many Americans can see how this guy is in a manipulated tide of affection, praise, admiration, and fundamentally a whole bunch of power steering. Here, America hopes Obama is driving in a well designed Corvette out of American automakers, not some new fangled Chinese hybrid Americans are forced to buy from a Wal-Mart show room because the economy tracks for the powerful few. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just getting through the prologue rereading some very catching statements Obama makes that encourage me,  yet suddenly brings me to caution. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s to know that from the get go Obama is very concerned about the impact of his name in politics. I’m glad and impressed by this admission. Sitting with a friend and adviser in a restaurant his friend said “You can’t change your name, of course, Voters are suspicious of that kind of thing”. As they look over and talked about the headlines of Osama Bin Laden.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is definitely not just experience but maturity that links me to caution. Here, the basics  with American success in working through this experiment of our current formula of Democracy are so important and so distorted by Mainstream Media, I feel afraid. That so called powerful endorsement by Oprah and failed win of Obama in New Hampshire signals a time for reflection to play fair follow the money plus following the deeds. The Media hates Hillary so much they wish to jump through the logic of debates and go directly to a Republican vs. Democratic play off. To me and perhaps a great deal of others, ideals in laws, believes in the Constitution, philosophies in social structure, Public housing, affirmative action, the list goes on but the Media avoids much because of previous Republican controlled Congress abuse of power and deliberate secrecy America is dealing with now. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My caution with support to Obama starts immediately in the prologue when Obama states “ Most of us are wise to the ways of admen, pollsters, speechwriters, and pundits.” To me Obama completely dismisses the huge wave of hate black rape music industry that in it self is the economics of party time, big money, an economy based black drug society bridging the whites, sex, homicide, theft, social friction to the decadence in factories of jail time training. To me here, Obama just thinks about the power steering to a good life, and totally avoid conversations about the power brakes needed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That simple low keyed conversation Hillary is accused in acting, staged, using sexism, weeping, crying, pouting, showing emotion, like candidates are not supposed  to, show me a new side of Hillary, and a new support for her as the right choice to lead. Just by saying “She, Hillary,  see’s  where America is going and it must be reversed”. I totally agree, Hillary understands the power brakes are broken, or just a plain poor design.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one starts to take a good look at Obama many Americans can see how this guy is in a manipulated tide of affection, praise, admiration, and fundamentally a whole bunch of power steering. Here, America hopes Obama is driving in a well designed Corvette out of American automakers, not some new fangled Chinese hybrid Americans are forced to buy from a Wal-Mart show room because the economy tracks for the powerful few. </p>
<p>Just getting through the prologue rereading some very catching statements Obama makes that encourage me,  yet suddenly brings me to caution. </p>
<p>It’s to know that from the get go Obama is very concerned about the impact of his name in politics. I’m glad and impressed by this admission. Sitting with a friend and adviser in a restaurant his friend said “You can’t change your name, of course, Voters are suspicious of that kind of thing”. As they look over and talked about the headlines of Osama Bin Laden.  </p>
<p>It is definitely not just experience but maturity that links me to caution. Here, the basics  with American success in working through this experiment of our current formula of Democracy are so important and so distorted by Mainstream Media, I feel afraid. That so called powerful endorsement by Oprah and failed win of Obama in New Hampshire signals a time for reflection to play fair follow the money plus following the deeds. The Media hates Hillary so much they wish to jump through the logic of debates and go directly to a Republican vs. Democratic play off. To me and perhaps a great deal of others, ideals in laws, believes in the Constitution, philosophies in social structure, Public housing, affirmative action, the list goes on but the Media avoids much because of previous Republican controlled Congress abuse of power and deliberate secrecy America is dealing with now. </p>
<p>My caution with support to Obama starts immediately in the prologue when Obama states “ Most of us are wise to the ways of admen, pollsters, speechwriters, and pundits.” To me Obama completely dismisses the huge wave of hate black rape music industry that in it self is the economics of party time, big money, an economy based black drug society bridging the whites, sex, homicide, theft, social friction to the decadence in factories of jail time training. To me here, Obama just thinks about the power steering to a good life, and totally avoid conversations about the power brakes needed. </p>
<p>That simple low keyed conversation Hillary is accused in acting, staged, using sexism, weeping, crying, pouting, showing emotion, like candidates are not supposed  to, show me a new side of Hillary, and a new support for her as the right choice to lead. Just by saying “She, Hillary,  see’s  where America is going and it must be reversed”. I totally agree, Hillary understands the power brakes are broken, or just a plain poor design.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruffian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195550</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruffian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hahahaha&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks…&lt;br /&gt;
As if they had the power to control anything that well….just doing the best they can folks…as for the so called 527 campaign against Obama- I think that was just more wingnuttery plants..throw something into that cage and see the mammals scramble……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaha<br />
Thanks…<br />
As if they had the power to control anything that well….just doing the best they can folks…as for the so called 527 campaign against Obama- I think that was just more wingnuttery plants..throw something into that cage and see the mammals scramble……</p>
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		<title>By: Ruffian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/i-cannot-mock-him-enough/#comment-1195543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruffian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ny favorite HRC reponse to tweety~I saw in some video on C&amp;L within last few days~it was along the lines of “I never know what to say to men who are obsessed with me”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe it was in the inflection but I immediately felt that I knew what she meant. Some people who worked for me (especially men) were always scarded of me- all 5′ of nothing. It got to the point that I learned to laugh at it, finnally seeing that there was nothing I could do to change their reality. Very reminiscent of wingnuttery logic-no mater what I said or did, it was viewed as proof that “she’s scary” . I can imagine HRC shaking her head at some point and going-what IS it with these guys???? (actually at many many many points..)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ny favorite HRC reponse to tweety~I saw in some video on C&amp;L within last few days~it was along the lines of “I never know what to say to men who are obsessed with me”.</p>
<p>Maybe it was in the inflection but I immediately felt that I knew what she meant. Some people who worked for me (especially men) were always scarded of me- all 5′ of nothing. It got to the point that I learned to laugh at it, finnally seeing that there was nothing I could do to change their reality. Very reminiscent of wingnuttery logic-no mater what I said or did, it was viewed as proof that “she’s scary” . I can imagine HRC shaking her head at some point and going-what IS it with these guys???? (actually at many many many points..)</p>
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