Comeback kid!

Blue Texan!

Good Grief!

B/T

Let them carry on and believe all their baloney.

BT!

The “Bush Hug” is a classic! Bush’s facial expression is all like “WTF is wrong with this freak!?”

Watching the MSNBC McCain-lovers turn on him last night for reading his piss-poor speech was very gratifying. In their “world=junior high” mentality, nothing is more important than cutting down those you’ve built up.

Andrew Sullivan has based his projections regarding McCain vs Clinton from an alternate universe where all things are Republican….

Geesh….

Offhand, I think two frontpage FDL posts linking to Sully today is enough for the month, please.

McCain is too old to be elected: He’ll be 71 by then. His positions on immigration and the war are yokes he can’t get out of. Andrew Sullivan is just trying to get back into the good graces of the Repugs after he turned on Bush.

He won due to the sympathy factor: all those other losses and all.

Let’s get Ed from the Lamont campaign to create “The Hug” float to parade through each state.

Good thing the media learned their lesson after coronating Obama.

Has there been a candidate in US presidential primary history that has done less and gotten more fluffing by the chattering class?

Uh, George W. Bush comes to mind.

Well, got to fly from the lake for now…

You-all are great with that morning cup of joe….

Take care…

Yeah, that McCain victory speech was quite hysterical. The crowning achievement of discordant nonsense.

Let me put this as crassly as I can. After watching Obama’s and Clinton’s acceptance speeches this is how I feel about them: Obama I’d “do” in a heartbeat, Clinton I’d take home to meet my parents.

Regarding MCain, I find zombies repulsive.

McCain was ahead of Clinton slightly in december polls- although most of em didn’t even bother to match him up with anyone on the assumption that he’s dead.

Mac won in NH because unenrolled white males could not vote for a woman (sexist) or vote for a man of color (racist). Make no mistake about it, and the PC talking heads will not even raise the obvious…

Daddybrain told me something I didn’t know last night…McCain has formed a war room for the SC primary. Now, is this a case of him being a little late in his reaction times or will he be reminding everyone of the Bush attack (McCain has Black Love Child!)? Showing us he won’t tolerate another one of those?

I think it’s telling. It’s telling me he’s a geezer with no clue.

Inquiring minds want to know?

Just where the hell is McCain’s right hand in that photo?

That would explain the “goosed” look on Bush’s face.

McCain is eminently beatable in the general (just put that photo on billboards all over the country), but who else could the Republicans possibly nominate??? Huckabee cannot win a primary in any state not chockablock with religious nuts. There aren’t enough of them. Every other Republican is a bad joke. Willard has wilted. People have noticed that Rudy is not only a crook, but obsessive and quite possibly a murderous war-monger and 8 years of that sort of thing is enough for most people, even Republicans. He wins the nomination by default.

What other Republican is still viable and acceptable to the insider interests? Of course, the insiders may give up on Republicans; many of them seem strangely happy with Obama.

OT: When you have some time. This is a must read. Treason anyone?

http://www.chris-floyd.com/Art…..the_World/

Yeah, the voters so-o-o-o- want to stay in Iraq for 100 years and bomb Iran.
Go McCain.

Is anyone talking about turning this photo into a float (ala “the kiss” in Connecticut)?

Oh, let them have their fun. This way, they’ll be able to chatter on and on about what a big “upset” South Carolina is.

I just looked at the photo again. Bush seems to be begging for someone to throw him a life preserver.

Has Lieberman claimed credit for McCain’s victory yet? And did McCain mention RGJoe in his victory read last nite? (It wasn’t really a speech, was it?)

That picture is priceless. I’ve seen more grace at a middle school dance class. I wonder if white gloves would help. And can anyone else decipher who’s leading whom, where? yikes.

I think the MSM are all graduates of Bush’s NCLB math program!(i.e. they cannot “do” the math).

Let’s just keep talking about the “real” math in the threads. Dems and Independents are making the change.

With the PA blaring “Doin’ That Crazy Hand Jive”.

OT Froomkin up The Incredible shrinking agenda

wait. is the dubya figure a cardboard cutout? i knew McC would go to great lengths but, yeah. i do believe.

(Caption)
jm: I love you, man!
w: No, you can’t have my beer.

That’s Willie and The Hand Jive Johnny Otis Show

Bbbut, if it’s suddenly Hillary instead of Obama running against McCain, how can Lieberman still be the most popular one at the dance?

This is the year of the ”victim.” McCain was tortured. hillary was pilloried. edwards is for the victims. obama’s race was victimized.

It’s like a 12-step program is going on here!

Bush looks about 15 years younger in that picture than he did today in that press conference with Olmert…man, something is seriously up folks. Plus, Condi was literally sunken down in her chair next to Hadley with a big old frown on her face…Cheney is wielding some serious fuckery methinks.

This picture of Bush reminds me of one of those EEEvangelical speakers preaching on.. while one of the newly-saved grovels and hangs on him, offering to wash his feet with the snake oil the preacher will shortly provide…

McCain obviously has no discernment.

McCain had a T-Shirt made:

“I Bought a Rug From a Smiling Merchant While Shopping Happily and Safely at the Mall of Baghdad With Only Ten Armored Humvees, Dozens of Soldiers With Rifles, and Two Apache Attack Helicopters.”

Just read that. INCREDIBLE.

Can we arrest them all now?

I don’t think McCain’s temperment would notice the difference, but,
noted with thanks… I would love to see that float follow him around
just to watch him blow up.

One thing I’ve seen in some of today’s coverage is that McCain is referred to as “senator,” while Hillary is simply “Hillary” or “Clinton.” One article even used “senator McCain” and “former first-lady Clinton.” While these are accurate, “senator” gives a little more political credibility than “former first lady.”

“Barbara Ann” should be the official D song of the 2008 election season if McCain gets the nomination.

If so many of us – and not just “them” got ahead of ourselves with the N H thing, ain’t no way really to predict the general. Doesn’t stop me from trying. McCain would be formidible against Hillary and I don’t think she’d smack him around. Might even lose. Edwards or Obama I think would be him. I tghi k Hillary’s our worst candidate just in tyerms of winning/losing. But things change, don’t they?

Throw open the gates at the Hague!

I totally deplore McCain’s politics but NOTHING that has happened to the other candidates compares to what Charlie did to him.

Let’s put it another way:

The McCain-Lieberman ticket will be very hard to beat…

I think the oligarchs favor Romney- he’s one of them- McCain is a pain in the ass about half the time to em- so he’s probably toast- plus he doesn’t have enough MONEY to make it through to victory. The Bushes of the world want Romney and they usually get what they want.

So the Patriot Act alledged to protect America becomes the state tool to silence, discredit, destroy and make people disappear for the benefit of traitors. More than plausible, the Nazis did the same thing while consolidating power. Protect zee Hommmmmelanddddddddd!! It will take another “civil war” or defacto revolution to reinstitute the rule of law and staighten this mess created by political opportunist representing corporations who profit from war and use our military as an agent of aggression to exact their economic goals. The cluster of corruption runs so deep it has perverted our rule law and values to the point where we live in a glass house on a foundation of crumbling cards. As the selfless actions of Americans crushed the Nazis, the American People will act. Make no mistake about it!!!!!!

That is exactly why he is called St.McCain.

Look: Everyone loves the underdog…

I have a real bad feeling about this too LS. REAL BAD. It is happening under the cover of the primaries and all of the media hubbub over the candidates. Too much distraction going on. Keep your eyes open.

This picture of Bush reminds me of one of those EEEvangelical speakers preaching on.. while one of the newly-saved grovels and hangs on him, offering to wash his feet with the snake oil the preacher will shortly provide…

Sounds like you’re describing Huckeeberry…

Ubergoopers have a big problem. Their primaries so far have been won by McCain and the Huckster- both of whom they hate- even worse- whoever they nominate is likely to lose. Tough shit oligarchs.

I think it would be a big mistake to underestimate the impact of the msm’s absolute mancrush on McCain and hatred of all things Dem (especially Hillary). From TPM Election Central today:
Poll Tracker

PA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen Clinton (D) 49% Romney (R) 39%PA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen Clinton (D) 46%, Huckabee (R) 44%PA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen McCain (R) 48%, Clinton (D) 42%PA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen Obama (D) 43%, Romney (R) 38%PA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen McCain (R) 46%, Obama (D) 38%VA-SEN
Jan 8 Rasmussen Warner (D) 53%, Gilmore (R) 38%VA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen Romney (R) 44%, Clinton (D) 43%VA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen McCain (R) 49%, Clinton (D) 8%VA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen Obama (D) 47%, Romney (R) 41%VA-Pres
Jan 8 Rasmussen McCain (R) 45%, Obama (D) 43%

I think we should all get buttons that say
“Get Off My Lawn.”

Every time Hillary Clinton wins a primary (if she wins any more) the leading GOP candidate starts to look like Abraham Lincoln.

If we nominate her, by the time she makes her acceptance speech, everyone on team-troll will take on the visage of Ronald Reagan in 1980.

If the republicans choose McCain, Hillary will be like Viagra being mainlined into his foolish, senile, “I’m a warpimp too!”, lusting-for-the-oval-office, body.

It’s amazing the things she’ll do…is ALREADY doing, for the goopers.

:o)

Crazy John McCain wants the United States to occupy Iraq for the next hundred years (or ten million years).

How many years does Hillary wants us to occupy Iraq and steal their only resource, oil?

Does Hillary know that Iran has lots of oil also?

Why McCain’s not the gooper’s fave:

“But as his party moved to the right in the 1990s, he started drifting to the left. By 2001, he was criticizing the Bush administration’s tax cut as a fiscally irresponsible gift to the affluent “at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief.” As the conservatives at the Club for Growth have gleefully pointed out, he started sounding a lot like Ted Kennedy.

Then, with the 2008 Republican primaries drawing nearer, Mr. McCain tacked back. He now favors extending many tax cuts he once opposed, arguing repeal would amount to a tax increase. On the campaign trail, he sometimes sounds no different from Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney.

But Mr. McCain is still different from them. Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Romney are the rightful heirs to President Bush’s economic policy. They favor the extension of all his tax cuts, and they oppose government action to fight climate change, among other things. They’re the candidates for voters who think the Bush boom has gotten a bad rap.”

NYT

LOL…Bush is a cheap imitation of a Huckster snakeoil character…

Obama hints of Daley, and McCain rests on his three pillars:

Filed at 1:36 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama talked of introducing some Chicago smackdown to his politics of hope Wednesday, seeking a rebound after Hillary Rodham Clinton grasped victory in the New Hampshire primary. In the wide-open Republican contest, John McCain pressed to build on his New Hampshire win and named experience, knowledge and judgment as his calling cards in the races ahead.

Even Sweet Polly Purebred! There is no need to fear, Underdog is here….

Hillary only needs to add someone like Wes Clark to her ticket to level the playing field wrt military background and McCain will look like the ill-tempered Republican that he is. Didn’t he make some kind of nasty joke at Chelsea’s expense? Ohe yeah, here it is:

“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?” McCain said at a GOP fund-raiser in Washington. “Because Janet Reno is her father.”

Real classy dude, Mac is.

The reverse of “bring it on” – “mission accomplished” – and “I’m the Decider.”

Oh “woe is me” wins the day!

Hillary only needs to add someone like Wes Clark to her ticket to level the playing field wrt military background and McCain will look like the ill-tempered Republican that he is.

I, too, think Wes Clark is a big plus for HRC. And yes, Clark would eat McCain for lunch, just like everyone else does. On both sides.

WVNG, the best that Clinton (and we, if we’re brickdumb enough to nominate her) can hope for, is a close race. There is simply no way that enough americans will vote for her to give her a comfortable win.

Any poll that says so, we need to look at long and hard to see who paid for it.

E.G.: a few months ago, her campaign staff announced that an “internal poll” showed Hillary running well with republican women. That announcement was greeted with hoots of derision across the board. :o)

And about a week later, we got to SEE another “internal poll” when someone posted that clip of one of McCain’s lady supporters at a campaign lunch for him, with venom dripping from her fangs, and running down onto her nice pearls, as she asked him:

“How do we beat the bitch?”

I’d go with the second poll, for accuracy. :o)

You misunderestimate him I fear.

And this is funny–and then some:

As Mr. McCain talked, his speech writer, Mark Salter, scrambled in a side room to rework what had been a key passage in the text of what Mr. McCain intended to say to the supporters waiting for his entrance at his victory party. The passage was designed to highlight what he said was the vacuousness of Mr. Romney’s claim to be an agent of change, as opposed to what they said was Mr. McCain’s failure to bring change, and how that had made “change” a weak slogan.

At the moment, meanwhile, Barack Obama was still believed to be the Democratic winner. Mr. McCain would address that, too. “I want to congratulate Senator Obama tonight on his impressive victory and I salute his supporters who worked so hard to achieve their success and believe so passionately in the promise of their candidate,” Mr. Salter wrote. “And I want to assure them that though I do not have their support, and though we may disagree on how best to advance America’s interests and ideals, they have my genuine respect. For they have worked for a cause they believe is good for the country we all love, a cause greater than their self-interest.”

Here’s my math:

Name a state that Kerry won that Hillary wouldn’t vs. McCain.

Now – wouldn’t you think that Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, Virginia, and possibly Florida could flip?

(And all you need is Ohio, or Colorado & Iowa, or Virginia & New Mexico – well, you get the idea.)

McCain is clearly young, fresh and an agent of change from the old Washington establishment.

-G

Did you hear Barnicle say that the door man at the hotel wanted to thank John for using what he wrote in his speech?

Frank@33; good question about Hil’s “timetable”. :o)

She’s very…Bushian; doesn’t like to talk specifics about Iraq. Says she wants a “responsible” withdrawal. :o)

Sad that the big, bad, MSM seems to have no interest in bashing her over THAT. :o)

In fact, she’s getting handled with such kid gloves by her democratic rivals, that they’ve not had much to say about her…elasticity regarding Iraq. :o)

Name a state that Kerry won that Hillary wouldn’t vs. McCain.

Oh! I know this one! None!

Now – wouldn’t you think that Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, Virginia, and possibly Florida could flip?

I’m pretty sure Ohio has banned the Republican party from ever holding another office in their state so I’m going to go with Ohio.

Poodle

Yeah- it’s WAY to early to make any sense out of hypothetical matchups- and as you point out, what matters is the ELECTORAL vote.

And this explains McCain’s nonsensical victory speech:

Only minutes before Mr. McCain was to speak, he was not even looking at the text. There was no teleprompter, no real rehearsal, but after 20 years of writing his speeches, Mr. Salter knew his voice and Mr. McCain was not worried.

Not worried. He shoulda been.

(Same link as my 71.)

Yep…

Either Hillary or Obama may now be tempted to run to the left and pick off Edward’s support. It will make a general election victory more difficult- but it beats losin. At LEAST, they’ll be tempted to attack Bush daily.

McCain is going to have a really hard time with his war cheerleading if Iraq continues to do what it has done since the invasion. Calm down, heat up, calm down, heat up.

It is already back to slowly heating up again.

-G

MutantPoodle; are you serious?

With Hillary, don’t think Kerry; think Dukakis and Mondale. :o)

She will not win a single state on your little list, if she’s nominated.

It’s telling that with one very close win in New Hampshire, you guys are already practically picking her cabinet. :o)

OT Just received in the mail my California mail in ballot, now it is time to make a decision.which one shall I choose? I am leaning towards Edwards, but I may wait a bit and see how the candidates perform for a bit before I make my final decision.
I think we have one of the best crop of hopefuls In a long time! Ah decisions decisions whats a guy to do?

All Bush has to do is start a conflict…then its, you know, “bomb,bomb…….”

With Hillary, don’t think Kerry; think Dukakis and Mondale. :o)

WADR, this is not 1988 or 1984. Not even close.

Please go with Edwards…Oh, wait: No campaigning at FDL in the primaries…*g*

Now there’s a friendly reach-around…

For his victory speech, McCain entered the room to the theme from “Rocky.” Kinda fits…he does look a little squirrel-like.

Attention Hugh and Selise.
The beat goes on and the list of infractions got longer, re: double stacking of the Civil rights commission with switcharoo republicans:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar…..p#comments

and left to go johnny go

Is his hotel housekeeper on the speech payroll too?

-G

Hi Jane. Have you seen this?

New Hampshire Election Fraud
from OpEdNews – OpEdNews.Com Progressive, Tough Liberal News and Opinion

New Hampshire Election Fraud: Hillary LOST the paper ballot count but WON the optical scan ballot count. Obama WON the paper ballot count but LOST the optical scan ballot count.
_________________

i’m repeating this from the last thread. does anybody know how trustworthy this website is? if so, somebody ought to be following up on it before it becomes stale ……

i leave it to you guys. i have to crash ……

Greg

Good point- the goopers are acting as if they’ve won the fuckin war in Iraq- all that has happened is that they bought off sunnis in exchange for guns- and God knows what else. Once they have enough guns, the question is what they use em for.

The future of Iraq depends on the Sunni strategy- and I haven’t seen a coherent attempt to lay out what they are trying to do. It’s not credible to think that they suddenly decided that Al Queda is their biggest enemy and that the central govt. of Iraq is their friend- so they’re just gonna get all kissy face with the US of A. They’re fighting for their survival.

And on all the hard work to come:

While much of the focus in the 2000 race was on his openness to the press -– which he demonstrated will continue through the race, agreeing to have reporters with him last night well before his victory was assured –- they will try and change that focus to his openness with the voters.

“They just want to know you are listening,” Mr. McCain said.

That’s all?

(Same link as my 71.)

that’s kind of the horrifying part.

Bush’s people set up that picture so that to get the angle they wanted, McCain had to hug Bush with his left arm, which is almost wholly non-functioning as a result of torture.

Probably not the most disgusting thing about that picture, but pretty damn bad.

John Edwards decides 2008 on the DNC floor Hotlist
( My computer wont post links)

This diary is a different take on it all. I dont know much about super delegates. Interesting take and maybe part of the strategy of Edwards.

The current definition of winning in eyerack is less American deaths.
Clearly the way to complete victory is to get out.

I think we saw the Lazio effect in New Hampshire not the Bradley effect

Nominate McCain, Repubics! That photo with Bush will look great in campaign ads.

Caption for that pic of Bush and McCain:

Just substitute the Titanic (metaphor for the Republican party) for the crowd;

Bush: “I’m king of the world!!!”

Love love love the photo. ROFLMAO.

That said, don’t underestimate the comfort of the familiar. Low info voters will love McCain. I do not like the prospect of a Clinton v. McCain election.

If we want change, then vote for it! You too, angry GOP people!!!

The Petraeus strategy wouldn’t have mattered on whit if the Saudi strategy of re-imposing Sunni dominance hadn’t been implemented beforehand.

The US may have very dangerously allowed some of the worst elements in Iraq into their inner sanctums and even into their strategy mindsets.

So now the former Baathists, the ones who most neo-cons were upset weren’t subjected to full scale genocide are now climbing back on top of the pile.

As McLean’s magazine said: Bush has become Saddam.

We’ll see how long Al Sadr sits out.

-G

anything’s better than Mack the Knife.

breaking msnbctv: apparently giuliani’s event in florida today was moved to a new location, an airport hangar, due to an unidentified security threat.

publicity stunt?

A friend who lives in Melbourne was going to go to the rally just to ask him, “What’s it like to lose to a hick, a robot, and a corpse.” Maybe that did it. ;)

Publicity stunt? Could be. Airplane hangar…airplanes…9/11.

Sorry,

But I think the whole “I’d never vote for Hillary” line is mostly bullshit and mostly made up by the MSM. Sure there are the hard core HilHaters, but I saw both of her campaigns in NY and for one thing, her “Listening Tour” was hugely effective. I’m an Edwards supporter, but if Hillary wins the nomination in this tough campaign then she will have earned her place.

I’ll say it again, we could almost run Al Sharpton against any Goper and still win in a landslide. Frankly I think Hillary has the chance to govern like a Clinton but with the benefit of both houses of Congress being in Democratic control with clear majorities.

I could live with that. I think we all could.

Insert spooky laughing of boogieman here…

I can already see the look of puzzlement on rudy’s face when no one shows up. Who wants a scaredy cat for a president?

This is really sad. I’ve become like one of those black helicopter/new world order people – I don’t believe word one from certain people anymore. Not. Word. One.

I call bullshit.

Did you know that on 9/11, the planes that hit the WTC, where Giuliani was, were kept in hangars?

Rudy will use this in all his speeches from now on — between when he talks about 9/11 and when he talks about 9/11.

Rudy will use this in all his speeches from now on — between when he talks about 9/11 and when he talks about 9/11.

I thought that was where the periods went.

New Thread upstairs

I thought we could at least express our opinions. :):)

duh!!

He’ll have to talk fast, that’s a pretty short window :)

I have an entry on this at 279 although I may add this latest wrinkle.

Fluffernutter!

The McCain-Lieberman ticket will be very hard to beat…

Great idea. Here’s your campaign slogan: Hug / Kiss 2008

Not nearly enough, BlueTex.

There is NO republican candidate that Clinton can “smack around”…for the simple reason that the best smackhand has I-R-A-Q tatted on the knuckles.

and she, having been hand in glove with bush on the war for so long, has neither the hand nor the tatts.

Great idea for an ad, heh, heh. The “maverick” people voted for in NH is six feet under…they voted for a memory. This image ought to be broadcast everywhere, along with his statements about staying in Iraq for 100 years. I think Romney’s going to get the nomination, but don’t have anything to back it up.