Christy!

ZED!!!

Damn! Hi, Christy!

I want to soak in luxury, too.

Don’t kill the massager.

Don’t take it too hard, Prof. I almost never even get here early, never mind a Zed.

You said:

I want to soak in luxury, too.

Don’t we all? I’m thinking that the writers would settle for some pennies on the show residuals, though. But I guess a seaweed wrap is more important.

Stewart & Colbert did right by the writers last night, given the circumstances…

Thank you for not posting a photo of Sumner Redstone on a massage table. *g*

It’s a wrap.

Indeed – they were both on their game and worth watching if other firepups missed both shows.

They seem to be doing their best.

Carefree is only barely a town, really.

I’m surprised Jane didn’t write this, Redd…! *g*

Reminds me of the “Madge, you’re soaking in it” commercial.

Good one!

So here’s a question… I would not cross a picket line. So, should I watch TDS and TCR or should I boycott the shows in support of the striking writers? Any opinions?

Hmmmm…nothing like bad Kharma..you know she’s a biatch.

Moral giant Sumner Redstone

Yesterday, the chairman of CBS’s parent company chose Hong Kong as a place to drop a little bomb. Sumner Redstone, who calls himself a “liberal Democrat,” said he’s supporting President Bush.

The chairman of the entertainment giant Viacom said the reason was simple: Republican values are what U.S. companies need. Speaking to some of America’s and Asia’s top executives gathered for Forbes magazine’s annual Global CEO Conference, Mr. Redstone declared: “I look at the election from what’s good for Viacom. I vote for what’s good for Viacom. I vote, today, Viacom.

“I don’t want to denigrate Kerry,” he went on, “but from a Viacom standpoint, the election of a Republican administration is a better deal. Because the Republican administration has stood for many things we believe in, deregulation and so on. The Democrats are not bad people. . . . But from a Viacom standpoint, we believe the election of a Republican administration is better for our company.

I have not turned on the Daily Show or Colbert yet.

At The Boulders, the writers could get a two bedroom villa there for their picketers for $999 a night. That’s the best available rate for next Sunday and Monday nights.

That’s not a typo. But it is apparently a very nice villa.

Based on last night, I’d watch because they are getting the writers’ message out…Colbert was hilarious on the teleprompter thing. oops, don’t want to spoil.

the studios are really taking a bath on this one…

a mud bath.

Jeez, that’s a awesome quote to wave around right now! Good job! Do it again!

So do you think they threatened to fire, harrass, eliminate, …Stewart, Colbert, Leno, Conan, etal., since they are non-union (non writers’ union), for breach of contract or something like that, to force them to “perform” without their writers?? I mean, I don’t really understand why they went back on, unless it was something like that. Maybe I’m just making a silly assumption.

They’re probably teed off at the writers.

Or at the writer’s expense, they’re teeing off.

One of those, anyway.

ok, good one punaise. no one liked my massager joke…(sticks bottom lip way out).

I rationized watching both Stewart & Colbert last night hoping they would both signal support of their writers. Happily they did – nonetheless this old Alinskyite clearly understood it was an uneasy decision to tune in last evening, if not hypocritical.

Oooo, there’s a shocker, a corporate CEO voting for his company’s best interest… Who’da thunk?

I think it would be nice if Stewart did a “field trip” or whatever the unscripted faux interview with someone outside the studio is called (which doesn’t violate the strike provisions), and went down to talk to the people at The Boulders. You know, just to give some fair treatment and publicity to the Studio Heads.

no one liked my massager joke…(sticks bottom lip way out).

not so: I thought your massage was teh medium.

Is it hypocritical to call your mother if you don’t like the phone company or the phone workers are on strike?

Is this a good analogy? I don’t know. Just trying to rationalize my own weakness maybe.

Over the shoulder Boulders scolders.

Stewart and Colbert have contracts which are currently in force, and they have production obligations as well. If they didn’t go back on, they could (a) be fired, (b) have their shows cancelled meaning everyone else would lose their jobs, (c) get sued, and (d) get blackballed by the studio system meaning they couldn’t get more jobs for others working for their shows in the future. The writers currently do not have active contracts — they expired, and the studios didn’t re-up with the writers under the terms proposed, which is why there is a strike.

Talent and writers are two separate categories in terms of contracts here. As are producers and directors.

The moguls have to put on their best facial.

*g*

Yeah, well, it’s a hell of a reason to vote for the Patriot party – because they may be bad for the country, but the balance sheet…

Thaats bad:):)

Ugh! Err and go braless.

They’ll never be able to mask their true intentions.

owwwwwwwwwwwww.

I want them to invite their own writers on as guests. But maybe the writers don’t think that’s a good idea…

Oh Oh the bottom is dropping out

actually, I was kind of expecting that. Letterman had writers from various shows do the Top Ten List on his first night back…

No no, I think a good case can be made either way, I’m just curious what others here think. On the one hand they have a very large megaphone to use Sumner Redstone’s network to promote the writers’ cause. On the other, watching the show will bring ad revenues back to the corporate coffers.

On top of that, I did catch the bit with John Oliver last night who was both striking and doing a report to prevent being deported, since work visas do not allow foreigners to strike. Now there’s a lovely little Catch-22, eh? Perhaps by going back on the air, Stewart was helping out some folks who could have gotten in trouble with INS.

It’s all a bit of a quandary…

adding insult to injury, axium international, the town’s largest payroll services company, declared bankruptcy yesterday. shut the doors with no notice, leaving productions with payroll they can’t meet, timecards locked behind closed doors, money frozen.

not a good way to start the year.

KO Obama and Hillary insome sort of a love triangle with Darth Vader!!

Wait til Lou Dobbs hears about that!

ok – Richardson is out again…

the guy would make a good politician – maybe an advisor to Willard…

Flip? Well, then -> flop. No problem.

Hah, Now, Richardson’s camp is saying that he’s dropping out… Dayam…!!!

Sorry, Julia, I utterly failed to convey the contempt in my voice that you would have heard had I spoken those words, rather than typed them. Curse, these pitiful fingers of mine ; )

the moguls are showing a lot of chut-spa

Aargh, now I owe you a coke… ;-)

The first night back was all about the strike and Jon did it very well. The guest was a labor relations law prof. from Cornell. Last night he had Bob Shrum. I think I need to strike until the WGA strike is over, much as I miss Jon. Had he kept focusing on the strike then it would be worth supporting him and the show. But Bob Shrum?????

Hoes spa?

So here’s a question… I would not cross a picket line. So, should I watch TDS and TCR or should I boycott the shows in support of the striking writers? Any opinions?

Last night I caught a few minutes of Jon Stewart. Turned the tv off when the “guest” — a right-wing writer — came on.

Question: are other book writers — like “liberal” ones — boycotting The Daily Show & Colbert?

I stayed in Carefree, Arizona for a while, in company with lots of coyotes, piglets, and rattlesnakes.

Aargh, now I owe you a coke… ;-)

I’ll just put it on the bill. *g*

Knock it off CTuttle, how many Twinkies do you think I can afford??? ; ) Ok, I’ll bring an extra pack for jayt, but that’s it!

I stayed in Carefree, Arizona for a while, in company with lots of coyotes, piglets, and rattlesnakes.

Republican convention?

Well, if not “boycotting”, perhaps just refusing to cross the picket line, which amounts to the same thing I suppose.

Heh, I’m stuck behind the eight-ball… ;-)

Hmmmm. I’m thinkin’ Freeway Blogger needs a little getaway weekend in the company of like minded Carefree types for a little stroll along the stretch o’road between the spa and the corporate jetport?

I wouldn’t know, I didn’t cross the picket line to watch them.

707!

Rachel should be coming up on KO shortly. WPITW: Guy from Fixed Noise gets the silver for not believing Begala when he said he wasn’t joining the campaign.

Laura Ingraham and Dick Morris get the gold.

Carefree, The last resort.

Would be nice to crash their party.

or trash it. take your pick.

Will Chris Mathews be there to fluff their, ummm, pillows?

At The Boulders, the writers could get a two bedroom villa there for their picketers for $999 $666 a night.

I have an idea for those network types.

They need some sort of programming that a) doesn’t require sophisticated scripts, b) isn’t as expensive as sports (plus most of the top sports are already on cable), c) doesn’t compete with the reality shows already on the air, and d) actually gets people to watch.

The only solution I can see is…

PORN!

All they have to do is bribe the FCC commissioners the same way they did to get the Market-Ownership restrictions voided. plus it’s an ideal time…people are desperate to watc something on TV rather than those stale old political campaigns and the “Anal-ysis” of Timmeee and Tweeety. So who’s gonna complain?

What with the studios having to fall back on reality shows, game shows, and special events, perhaps Stewart and Colbert could provide commentary for one of those rounds of “championship quality” golf.

(whispering)
Here’s the Big Mogul, looking out over the green . . . he’s lining up his putt . . . there it goes . . .

(shouting)
and it’s in!

(turning to the color commentator)
Bud, what did you think of that putt?

(color commentator)
It was a great save to preserve his quadruple bogey.

(lead commentator)
Absolutely. Now, on to hole number two. . .

Do I think the “upper ranks” generally vote GOP?

sorry, didn’t mean to be humorless, but I am a liberal, you know ;)

Thanks. That is what I thought, but I didn’t know the details. Oy vey. It is really a sticky situation to go back on and suck enough to need (help) your writers, but be good enough to keep your own jobs; especially since most of them were writers to the greats before they even got their own shows…It is so not fair.

HI Deb!
Do we know anyone near by?

Obama got screwed last night.

And so did Ron Paul.

George W. Bush is the most hateful anti-worker president I’ve had the disgusting experience to witness.

*swoon* Rachel…

add to that the color commentary of a seaweed wrap as it dries and contracts. A sure fire hit!

Too bad all of this is happening when everybody is between Iraq and a hardspot.

Hey RG.

Alas, no. I don’t travel in those kinds of circles. or squares, or whatever.

Oooo, there’s a shocker, a corporate CEO voting for his company’s best interest… Who’da thunk?

I don’t give a f**k who he votes for, but when he says he’s gonna “support” a candidate…because it’s best for Viacom…that implies that CBS is going to act in a political manner. After all, doesn’t it send the message to employees that supporting anyone but Bush was actually acting against the interest of the corporation. And that even acting in fairness with candidates was harmful.

So much for the primary duty of broadcast licensees to “act in the PUBLIC INTEREST”!

I figured — I’m also guessing you blog in your jammies and live in your Mom’s basement ; )

Well, I only watched the Support the Writers part…um, yeah. that’s it.

I hate it too, but I don’t want TDS and TCR to lose their mike. It is a dilemma.

I’ll listen to any and all positions either way. See Phred at 43.

“…it’s great when the system goes of the tracks!” Go, Girl…!

Can you just imagine what FDR would be saying and doing about the anti-labor Republican sentiment which is going on now? Whatever happened to the Sherman Anti-Trust Act?

Yes, they are really on the razor’s edge.

jammies?

Hardballs special edition to go live at 11 (EST). A great opportunity to turn off the teevee.

Never been to Carefree, AZ far as I know.

But I did stand on a corner in Winslow, AZ one time.

Not a damned thing happened.

but how many women did you have on your mind?

I understand that’s determinative.

Now now cinnamonape, you are forgetting that corporations are people, just ask the Supreme Court about their protected free speech rights and the 14th amendment and all that. See? Feel better now? The corporate interest is the public interest.

And after you eat this cookie, you’ll feel right as rain…

(Note, heavy heavy sarcasm in all of the above, with appropriate h/t to The Matrix writers : )

Now Abrams trying to cast himself as the sage who tried to dial down Obama on Mon. night.

The biggest problem with all of this—Abrams, Tweety et all is that THEY are not supposed to be the story. The story should be about what the candidates are doing and saying, not what the pundits have to say. SO tired of this.

Waiting for Rachel to sprint to the other studio then after her, it’s over.

or not ; ) me, I get chilly ; )

I dunno, seems to me he is takiing a constructive path here.

But I did stand on a corner in Winslow, AZ one time.

Not a damned thing happened.

No girl, my lord, in a flatbed ford, slowin’ down to take a look at …thee?

Abrams is going to have a firefighter that will blast Ghouliani’s choice of…er..lovenest...Command Center on 9/11….Heh, heh, heh.

I’m already gone.

I guess that’s the trouble. I was just looking for a girl in a flat bed Ford to slow down and take a look at me.

Abrams, is rocking, and, Rachel completed a mad dash between studios…!

I come from a solid blue collar union family background and a commensurate viewpoint. And I ain’t got no intentions of changin’.

Now Abrams trying to cast himself as the sage who tried to dial down Obama on Mon. night.

sickening monday a.m. quarterbacking for sure!

The biggest problem with all of this—Abrams, Tweety et all is that THEY are not supposed to be the story. The story should be about what the candidates are doing and saying, not what the pundits have to say. SO tired of this.

Yes, me too!!

Press criticizing the press like they are not the press. Feh.

If he had said, OK we all need to dial it down, then I agree. But he was shining his own star.

Hey…take it easy…

Pat Buchanan never sleeps…

we may lose we may win
but we will never be here again

crossing Winslow, Arizona, off my “bucket list”….

he’s a vampire.

Even Pat is joining the WTF bandwagon on NH’s results…

My SO is coaxing me into playing a board game up stairs. Workers unite.

lahoma and me.

I wonder what they are talking about on ESPN?

Rachel is one of the sanest voices in the wilderness. “you could explain the results using astrology if you want to.” ha ha!

Winslow is truly a god-forsaken place.

Off Topic…

But I wonder if anyone actually looked at some interesting stuff in those New Hampshire exit polls. [Sorry Perris ,not what you think, they actually do show Edwards did poll about 16-17%].

What interested me was that they actually asked the folks what their religious affiliation and attendance was. And what was a bit of surprise to me was that between 35-40% of those that voted in the Democratic Primary said that they a) didn’t attend church in the last year, and b) had no religious affiliation (the choices were Protestant, Catholic, Muslim or other, or none).

Now that’s really amazing! That means this big push to religiosity is actually likely to backfire for about 1/3rd of the electorate who may be atheist, agnostic, pantheist, or simply some other belief system like Wiccan. But it also means that Non-Believers are actually a Democratic bloc far larger than Jews, Moslems, Mormons, and most Protestant denominations. Turns out that none of the candidates particularly did better amongst these groups, however.

Notice how none of them are talking about the “Tweety Affect?”

We may lose, we may win, but we’ll never be here again… got a world of trouble on my mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9WBhum_oc

Lawrence (Mormons are racist) O’Donnell is trying to convince us that Hillary is unlikable.

Abrams is trying to convince us how smart he is.

OK, I surrender.

Winslow is truly a god-forsaken place.

And THAT is my primary memory of the place. We were on the proverbial college road trip and stopped there and had dinner. Desolate is another good descriptor.

Notice how none of them are talking about the “Tweety Affect?”

is there any logical reason that man has a job?

Can’t wait. A Rudy take down coming up.

Rudy “Mr. National Security” Giuliani can’t even keep his own campaign in secure venues. duh. The A Team he isn’t.

I still say that citizenshit for corporations need sot be revoked, they don’t need health care, they don’t eatfood, they sit at the bar with you and have a beer! What fucking kind of a citizen is that?? Whose their moma? For that matter when did the get birthed? Did they slap it on the ass to make it cry! And on and on.
Revoke their citizenship! Corporation need to get back to paying more taxes for having access to OUR market place, maybe back to the rates as in the 1940’s when they paid more than forty % of total revenue nad not the current amount of less than 7%, shifting all that burden on the middle class. No wonder the middle class is going to pot!!

Abrams is trying to convince us how smart he is.

That would be quite a sales job. He’s Tweety’s boss, after all.

Good Eagles song heard them perform that on their Hells freezes over tour.

Now that’s really amazing! That means this big push to religiosity is actually likely to backfire for about 1/3rd of the electorate who may be atheist, agnostic, pantheist, or simply some other belief system like Wiccan.

How about those that embrace most the faiths, such as the Baha’is’… *g*

He hasn’t called Hillary a nappy headed ho. yet.

I love places like that.

For a short period. ;)

Now now cinnamonape, you are forgetting that corporations are people, just ask the Supreme Court about their protected free speech rights and the 14th amendment and all that. See? Feel better now? The corporate interest is the public interest.

No corporations are a “person” according to the Supremes…but I guess because they are a lot of persons then they do sort of form a group of people. But they better start creating millions of little corporations to catch up with those other persons out there.

BTW I want to create a corporation and actually run it for political office. Maybe even register it to vote. Lets see how the Supreme Court deals with THAT!

Switching over to one of the HBO’s with Paul Newman in Nobody’s Fool. Far more relevant than the talking heads.

He hasn’t called Hillary a nappy headed ho. yet.

Oh, he adds up to worse than that.

I like that idea. A lot.

How about Christians who are seriously contemplating never going to church again until these people stop cramming it down our throats?

Yep, watching it myself. I think he has to be one of the greatest actors ever.

Rachel is one of the sanest voices in the wilderness. “you could explain the results using astrology if you want to.” ha ha!

Bring in the bonobos!

According to stare decisis, a corporation is ineligible for elective office, an individual is… ;-)

In another comment sure to increase my popularity, the Eagles sucked. Actually I liked their music but the were a made-up band. Their manager, Iriving Assoff moved from Champaign to Horrywood he is known as the most hated man in Hollywood. Now, Commander Cody, Asleep at the Wheel now we’re talkin. Fire away.

AND he’s a liberal. Imagine that!

Switching over to one of the HBO’s with Paul Newman in Nobody’s Fool. Far more relevant than the talking heads.

No HBO here.

I suppose live-blogging is out of the question?

Ever been to Jerome?

next time anyone is close to Winslow don’t stop on I-40 until you see the signs for the Crater.

By all means, Margot! Freedom to choose… 8-)

Rachel agrees with you. Listened to her podcast from a night or two ago in the wee hours this morning. She hates the Eagles. Me, I listen to jazz and classical. What do I know?

So how to we get Cheney declared a corporation? At this point, given Pelosi’s views, that might be easier than getting Cheney impeached.

They will need to produce a birth certificate first from city hall. Ya know that one with the cute little foot print up in the corner. Did they collect the umbilical cord blood in case they get some sort of cancer?

OT-The email smearing Obama has now reached my family. My brother-in-law just called me about it. Vicious stuff. Here’s Obama’s first challenge. How will he handle it? Especially since the email says not to believe him, “he will lie.”

yep. pretty much.

Lots of back and forth over a snow blower.

I think corporations have a kind of Android citizenship…they don’t have to be born, don’t actually age, only need lubricants and replacement parts, but they have “Freedom of Beep-Beep” as long as they were manufactured in the US of A.

next time anyone is close to Winslow don’t stop on I-40 until you see the signs for the Crater.

it’s awesome

I wish guiliani chasers would bring up the fact that the police had the new radios, when the firemen didn’t. I didn’t hear that on Abrams show. did anyone else? I may have missed it.

any hint of where it’s coming from?

They got any of dose Loofah-thingys there?

It’s called Halliburton, now HQ’ed in Dubai! *g*

Speaking of religion in government…how about we investigate HR 888 before it passes…?????

Actually, they weren’t even the most made up of the Hollywood bands. Clive Davis made an attempt to re-create Crosby Stills & Nash that made a couple of records.

And I will admit that I kinda liked the first two Eagles albums. But that was before they became THE EAGLES!

And I agree with about the Commander and Asleep at the Wheel.

Do you remember Blytham Lighting? It was on Green Street next to the DeLuxe, the place that had huge fried fish sammies and pool table. Irving owned Blytham.

They have hardly begun. It will be sick and awful. I think the racism in this country is wide and deep and nobody admits it. I fear for him and for his family.

Hey I don’t care I like their music. So they are assholes so is Neil Young but I still like his music! My lady hooked me when she sang Desperado just for me alone!

LOL What’s its citizenship status? Immigrant? Naturalized citizen? work visa, residency?

So how to we get Cheney declared a corporation?

“Go offshore yourself, Dick.”

I agree, but it gets complicated. We talked about this awhile back at EW’s place and the lawyers over there explained to me that if we wave a magic wand and revoke corporate personhood it will mess up the courts in a big way. For example, I actually suggested that maybe ACLU could pursue this somehow, but then the unintended consequence would be that if the ACLU is no longer a person it would no longer have standing to bring cases to court. So somehow we need to find some creative ways to restore a balance to our political system where Viacom’s political voice isn’t louder than yours or mine simply by virtue of the cash they have laying around to pay lobbyists and contribute to campaigns.

As I pointed out in my comment at 49, my original comment was supposed to be sarcastic. My apologies for any confusion. I absolutely hate the fact that the Supreme Court makes corporations super-citizens, but as they won’t be overturning that any time soon, we need to really think hard about how else we can level the political playing field.

Ever read “Star Making Machinery” by Geoff Stokes? Great book about the Commander.

So here’s a question… I would not cross a picket line. So, should I watch TDS and TCR or should I boycott the shows in support of the striking writers? Any opinions?

A Daily Show (as opposed to “The Daily Show” which will not be back until the writers return per Jon Stewart) has used the vast majority of their time as a soap box to bash the other side of the writers strike. It’s like watching a very entertaining picket line and supporting the writers. OTOH, who knows if the other side will respond as long as we’re watching anyway, but I wonder if they can last with the obvious support of the stars. Without talent, I don’t know how they can. After all, it’s always been a symbiotic relationship. Talent needs money to support them, but the money wouldn’t do a thing without the talent, but the demand would still be there for the shows, so someone would surely fill in the blanks.

nope. Not on my regular route.

Heh, the Fourth Branch has Diplomatic Immunity… *g*

Actually that Eagle tribute album is good. And then there is Gram Parsons.

No. And from the looks of it, I don’t want to. Looks kinda like Grants, NM. Just ugly. (Sorry, any Grants natives. Ugliest town I’ve ever seen.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..895/430331

No. Has anyone else seen it?

How bout Figaro’s, the classical music store next to the Record Service?

Heh, the Fourth Branch has Undiplomatic Immunity… *g*

Fixed for you.

And I will admit that I kinda liked the first two Eagles albums. But that was before they became THE EAGLES!

‘zackly. Isn’t that when they traded Bernie Leadon for Joe Walsh?

Here is what I recieved this am.
Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born

in Honolulu, Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM

from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white Athiest from

Wichita, Kansas .

Obama’s parents met at the Uni versity of Hawaii . When Obama was
two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Ken ya. His

mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Oba ma was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.
Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a

Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He
is
quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that he also

attended Catholic school.”

Obama’s political handlers are attempting to make it appear

that he is not a radical .

Obama’s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this

influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama
returned
to Ken ya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct

influence over his son’s education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham,

introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi
school
in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL ISLAMIC teaching that is followed by the
Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since

it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major

public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined

the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim

background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he

DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience nor

will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their
hands

over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches .

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama’s expected presidential

candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the
inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level – through the

President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading

our country?…… NOT ME!!!

Be Kool !!!!!

TONA
And here is what
I wrote back: Bob this is just stupid white racist propaganda If you think it is true then you need to do a little research. I would recommend starting with Wiikipediad and then maybe snopes or one of the other web hoax web sites.
Here is a link to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama.
This just so much bullshit.

It’s really cool, you go straight up this mountain. Great view, couple of little eateries, buddhist prayer flags. . .

I can’t tell you why.

Then I suppose you have not been to Barstow, Ca. What a dump !

The author takes us inside the music business, up close, giving us a blow-by-blow, true-life account of a year in the life of the band Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen, a mid-tier rock band poised on the brink of greatness. It’s a story of drama, comedy, pathos and heartbreak as we see the band members work their way through (and be worked by) the “star-making machinery” of the record business.

vaguely. Back then it was mostly jazz and BS&T kind of stuff.

Never read it. But I think you and I have had this conversation before about the Commander. Never saw him with the Lost Planet Airmen but saw the Commander Cody Band at the Blaisdell Exhibition Hall in downtown Honolulu in late ‘81 or early ‘82.

BTW, the other made up band was the Souther/Hillman/Furay Band with JD Souther (singer/songwriter role), Chris Hillman (Former Byrd’s member role) and Richie Furay (former Buffalo Springfield member role)

My mom got a version of that, with “We checked this out on “snopes.com”. It is factual. Check for yourself.” at the top.

Snopes, of course, debunks it, not confirms it.

Well I don’t know if it’s actually ever been attempted? It might be worth an effort. If a corporation is a person, and resident in a particular place….then…

And reading the case law it seems that the whole basis for granting corporations “Political Speech” rights (rather than more limited commercial speech rights] was obiter dicta rather than “stare decisis et non quieta movere” ( “quieta non movere” is itself a famous maxim akin to “let sleeping dogs lie”).

But the courts might object Corporations are not “citizens”…but that would allow the door to open for legislation that restricts political campaign contributions to citizens (and actually there are restrictions against FOREIGN campaign contributions so that it seems plausible that citizenship CAN BE a criteria for restriction).

Hmmm!

Definitely pre-Joe Walsh and Timothy Schmidt days. and it was Bernie Leadon days

I had forgotten this until someone, was it you, mentioned it the other day, I downloaded it and I am blown down

Muleskinner
An amazing cd. Featuring Clarence White of the Byrds on lead guitar, Richard Green on fiddle, the legendary David Grisman in his youth on mandolin, and Bluegrass Boys Bill Keith and Peter Rowan on banjo and rhythm guitar & vocals respectively.

I was snarking, I know ther would be ramifications, but I am just pissed they get welfare and special treatment and do not help to keep this country safe by contributing a fair amount of taxes, Again it’s the rethuglian thing! We get all the money and fuck the real living beings of this country. Support education fuck no help pay for health care… fuck no and on and on !!

oh, hey, they were Linda Ronstadt’s backup band, so it’s not as if they were found in an open audition of people who had parts in Oliver before their pubic hair sprouted while their mothers invented witeout.

Godess Bless America!!! I hope he increases his security 10 fold. This is horrifying, and whoever sent it should immediately be arrested.

We have an awesome Buddhist tradition, here, the Dalai Lama has frequented it often, and, Tibetan Monks are always in attendance, Wood Valley is its name, appropriately so…! 8-)

Is it!? I really like Buddhist prayer flags. And desert, and mountains.

Ain’t that the truth! At the head of Death Valley…!

http://www.azjerome.com/pages/jerome/history.htm

Here where CT? Hello Dali!

No, I have only been as far west as Arizona (but I’m from NM originally).

can’t get all that much further west

Hey I thought that was the Stone Ponies (ronstadt’s back up). No one has even mentioned Jackson Browne’s songwriting for the eagles. man, he wrote the song y’all were quoting. what’s up with that? ;)

But willing patsy for bullshit… probally believes it deep down and I have never seen that in him in over 26 years of friendship… Go figure some people are just gullible!

it’s the mysoginist thing

Haven’t heard that one but it sounds like a good listen. I have an album that I’d like to get digitized sometime with Grisman, Rowan, Vasser Clements, and a bunch of others called Hillbilly Jazz that’s pretty good. Take Me Back To Tulsa is on it and really does swing.

Oh that’s a much nicer set of photos than I found. Looks like a great place for a retreat.

Damn right, double album, big Train on the cover. Gravy Watz if memory serves. Vassar used to “blow” through Athens quite a bit if ya know what I mean. That album is on iTunes, in fact I could sent it to ya. markann at hotmail dot com

I read that book in the 70s.

Sorry I missed the snark the first time. FWIW, I’m as frustrated as you about this stuff, there has to be a way to fix things, if we could just find people to elect who will care enough to do so…

But Jane, I didn’t think you were bornded yet!

What I like in the re-read is how political they were. Ann Arbor was much more radical than Champaign but we had our tribe and the book really brought it back.

nighty night pups

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Surprised Viacom management could take time off from dumping stock.

Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne campaigning for John Edwards in Portsmouth, NH Dec ‘07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

OT-The email smearing Obama has now reached my family. My brother-in-law just called me about it. Vicious stuff. Here’s Obama’s first challenge. How will he handle it? Especially since the email says not to believe him, “he will lie.”

I think this is timed for the South Carolina primary. It’s very similar to the “McCain has an out-of-wedlock child of mixed race” stuff that happened four years back. Some people very afraid of Obama, methinks. But he needs to push back carefully, and not disparage Muslims. I think if he gets overly religious it will actually backfire. Here’s his opportunity to make the “John F. Kennedy” speech that Mitt Romney could have made. He can do this by actually stating that a Muslim, Hindu, or nonbeliever should be considered for public office just as much as a Baptist or Lutheran or Methodist.

He should simply state that he is a member of the United Church of Christ, and that what religion he belongs to shouldn’t make a difference to seeking public office in the United States. It shouldn’t matter if he were a Catholic (as was John F. Kennedy), a Jew (as was Chief Justice Felix Frankfurter), or a Mormon, or Buddhist, or Hindu or Moslem. What really should matter is the ideas and policies that will make us a better and more noble nation. He should point out that the founders actually enshrined these ideals 250 years ago in the Constitution. Some people still seem to fall short of those ideals and try to use our baser emotions to divide us, rather than unify us.

And what would really kick butt would be to have well-known members of each of these groups standing on stage with him when he makes this speech.

this email seems to possibly be a perfect Rovian stunt… how much fun would KKKarl have setting up a trail of bread crumbs back to one of the other Dem candidates to try to set us tearing each other apart….

Obama has been black all his life, he could not have gotten to where he is now if he did not know how to handle this trash. I say that as an Edwards supporter.

Tons of made up bands. The Monkees were called the “Pre-Fab Four” (after the Beatle’s “Fab Four” monicker)…Steven Still’s almost was in the Monkees but they went for actors and had studio musicians do most of their music. Still’s had been in Buffalo Springfield, which the studios broke up…and then ended up in the fabricated CSN (formed with David Crosby of the Byrds and Graham Nash of the Hollies…later joined with former Buffalo Springfield member Neil Young).

The Monkee guys eventually learned how to play instruments (essential as the demand for live performances occurred when the show became a hit) and it turned out that one, Michael Nesmith, actually had some formidable talent. They increasingly wanted to perform their own compositions, and asked for more $$$, which eventually led to the shut down of the program. The same producers then decided to create a Cartoon show to avoid using real persons. The studio musicians who did many of the compositions eventually went out and created their own live group.

I believe that the “Partridge Family” were based upon the Cowsills.

Bands head to Hollywood and the record producers take ‘em apart. I knew one group that went down and the producers took two of them aside and said…”You guys have the looks and licks, but those other two have to go.” Then they split up those two by the same method…and tried to put them into other groups that they had done the same thing to.

Joni Mitchell refers to it as the “star-making machinery”. It treats performers as interchangeable parts in the effort to create a commercial “sound” imagined by the producers. Neil Young became known as an a**hole because he essentially refused to play this game. Geffen pressured him to produce an album a year…so some were done mainly to fulfill contractual obligations. Others he presented under protest, refusing to change them to the demands of David Geffen that they weren’t commercially acceptable (e.g. TRON…which is now considered something of a classic). He didn’t like to tour after he got married (having a handicapped kid restricted this) and he actually preferred playing in smaller local clubs with his own band.

I know all that about the Monkees and Partridge Family. I’m not so sure that’s so about the founding of CSNY however. Source?

Hey I thought that was the Stone Ponies (ronstadt’s back up). No one has even mentioned Jackson Browne’s songwriting for the eagles. man, he wrote the song y’all were quoting. what’s up with that? ;)

The Stone Poney’s were Linda Ronstadt’s TOURING Band. The studios wanted to change her sound and sacked the Poney’s. And you know how it is for musicians…you sell your songs to others to cover, and hop that they get a hit and you get some residuals.

Honestly, I think Obama is a skilled orator and could knock the pitch right out of the ballpark with a “respect for all religions” theme. I hope people of all religious backgrounds are sick of the religiosity of the fundies. One NH lady said it for me: I’m voting for a President, not a Preacher.

I would add I’m voting for a president who knows how to show some respect for people from different backgrounds (that’s some change for ya). I’m an Edwards supporter, but I see this as a “Kennedy moment” opportunity for Obama.

And yeah, that smear email is just sick.

Keep in mind that the McCain smear (and although I have issues with McCain out the yinyang, it takes a special kind of Values Voter to smear the bangladeshi daughter he adopted from Mother Theresa’s orphanage) emanated from Bob Jones University, where both Bob Jones 2 and the Dean have endorsed Romney in this cycle.

I don’t fault Stewart and Colbert for going back to work. I’m just not watching them.

Hi Christy -

Thanks for posting about this strike. It is the most important strike that I have seen in my 35 years working in the motion picture industry. We are literally fighting for our future here and I, for one, am grateful for the support that FDL is giving this struggle.