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		<title>By: DennisQ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1194154</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pundits have to worry about their demographics, too.  Their markets are as segmented as the political markets, and television journalism is a &lt;em&gt;business&lt;/em&gt;.  I’ve always suspected that Fox News’ appeal to misogynists is the reason for the network’s success.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because Fox News has been consistently wrong on so many issues, it’s been losing the segment of viewers who can’t own up to their own misogyny.  It’s sorta like the guys who claim to read Playboy Magazine for the articles.  If the high-quality articles weren’t there, they’d have to admit being horny guys who look at nekkid women.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many mysogynistic viewers have turned away from Fox News to preserve their own self-image as fair-minded.  It’s curious that not everyone who hates women is aware of it.  Chris Matthews is their man because he’s not fully aware of his inner Bill O’Reilly.  In his own mind, he doesn’t Hillary-bash because Hillary is a woman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the record . . . Hillary first ran for Senate against Rick Lazio.  Lazio’s Big Moment happened in a debate when he crossed over to Hillary’s podium and demanded that she sign some kind of document.  Nearly everyone watching had the same response: &lt;em&gt;Who the hell does he think he is?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pundits have to worry about their demographics, too.  Their markets are as segmented as the political markets, and television journalism is a <em>business</em>.  I’ve always suspected that Fox News’ appeal to misogynists is the reason for the network’s success.  </p>
<p>Because Fox News has been consistently wrong on so many issues, it’s been losing the segment of viewers who can’t own up to their own misogyny.  It’s sorta like the guys who claim to read Playboy Magazine for the articles.  If the high-quality articles weren’t there, they’d have to admit being horny guys who look at nekkid women.</p>
<p>Many mysogynistic viewers have turned away from Fox News to preserve their own self-image as fair-minded.  It’s curious that not everyone who hates women is aware of it.  Chris Matthews is their man because he’s not fully aware of his inner Bill O’Reilly.  In his own mind, he doesn’t Hillary-bash because Hillary is a woman.</p>
<p>For the record . . . Hillary first ran for Senate against Rick Lazio.  Lazio’s Big Moment happened in a debate when he crossed over to Hillary’s podium and demanded that she sign some kind of document.  Nearly everyone watching had the same response: <em>Who the hell does he think he is?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1193881</link>
		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That presumes Tweety was once on the rails and that’s a fact not yet in evidence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The schmuck is poor scum. I really don’t know how Olbermann can suffer sitting next to him for hours on end. Yeah, I realize he’s well paid but c’mon. He loves whoever is in front of him as long as they’re a gop. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He spent the better part of a year talkin’ up Rudy with his “big city, pol” shtick and now he’s got nowhere to go. It’s not like Huck Finished or Ron Paul is gonnna ride to his rescue. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If he got ratings he’d still be in KO’s spot. He’s Tucker - the previous generation. Abrams ought to trade him to Fox for the funeral rights for Bob Novak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That presumes Tweety was once on the rails and that’s a fact not yet in evidence.</p>
<p>The schmuck is poor scum. I really don’t know how Olbermann can suffer sitting next to him for hours on end. Yeah, I realize he’s well paid but c’mon. He loves whoever is in front of him as long as they’re a gop. </p>
<p>He spent the better part of a year talkin’ up Rudy with his “big city, pol” shtick and now he’s got nowhere to go. It’s not like Huck Finished or Ron Paul is gonnna ride to his rescue. </p>
<p>If he got ratings he’d still be in KO’s spot. He’s Tucker &#8211; the previous generation. Abrams ought to trade him to Fox for the funeral rights for Bob Novak.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The presence of Columbia U on that list, makes me think that they are interested in part in her role as a Senator in bringing back the bacon (funds for research, centers etc.). In short some of these are clearly 2-fers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agreed. Sure.  But her broad brush stroke repudiation of Big Biz interests was disingenuous carried to a new level.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The presence of Columbia U on that list, makes me think that they are interested in part in her role as a Senator in bringing back the bacon (funds for research, centers etc.). In short some of these are clearly 2-fers.</p>
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<p>Agreed. Sure.  But her broad brush stroke repudiation of Big Biz interests was disingenuous carried to a new level.</p>
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		<title>By: amilius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1193740</link>
		<dc:creator>amilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sad to say,  even Arianna looked tragically warped on Charlie Rose last night.  She and Tweety have been drinking from the same cup of biased hubris kool-aid.  She’s smarter than that, he is not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to say,  even Arianna looked tragically warped on Charlie Rose last night.  She and Tweety have been drinking from the same cup of biased hubris kool-aid.  She’s smarter than that, he is not.</p>
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		<title>By: RayDuray</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayDuray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Looking forward to your new website, Ray: BoycottTweetysAdvertisers.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You may have joined this conversation late. I’m the guy who said he stopped watching Matthews several years ago. If he’s worse now, I have my doubts about the sanity of anyone tuning in. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as activism, I’ve limited myself to local efforts for about 5 years now. It’s worked out quite well for me. I’ve accomplished quite a lot, and really P.O.ed the local Blue Dog Dems with my efforts. :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheerio!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Looking forward to your new website, Ray: BoycottTweetysAdvertisers.com</p></blockquote>
<p>You may have joined this conversation late. I’m the guy who said he stopped watching Matthews several years ago. If he’s worse now, I have my doubts about the sanity of anyone tuning in. </p>
<p>As far as activism, I’ve limited myself to local efforts for about 5 years now. It’s worked out quite well for me. I’ve accomplished quite a lot, and really P.O.ed the local Blue Dog Dems with my efforts. :) </p>
<p>Cheerio!</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1193687</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looking forward to your new website, Ray: BoycottTweetysAdvertisers.com&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or did “we organize a boycott” mean “let’s you organize a boycott” ??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to your new website, Ray: BoycottTweetysAdvertisers.com</p>
<p>Or did “we organize a boycott” mean “let’s you organize a boycott” ??</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1193686</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last sentence of my 266 was just for fun.  Things ahve been a littel.. I duno… tense(?).  Maybe it’s the election. Maybe it’s having to go back to work after the holidays.  But I don’t want that to be misconstrued.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last sentence of my 266 was just for fun.  Things ahve been a littel.. I duno… tense(?).  Maybe it’s the election. Maybe it’s having to go back to work after the holidays.  But I don’t want that to be misconstrued.</p>
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		<title>By: RayDuray</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/media-analysis-the-tweety-effect-runs-rampant/#comment-1193677</link>
		<dc:creator>RayDuray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And pushing back against unfair media narratives — of which Matthews is an extreme example — is a lot of what we do here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s a ton of really articulate people here. How about we organize a boycott and start contacting all the advertisers who display their wares on Chris Matthews Show? Perhaps they would be interested to know how little consumers think of their chosen programming. I know it’s been mentioned before. But it seems better than kibbitzing with those of us who come to the Lake for the intellectual stimulation. I like the new angles and new insights I get here. Flame wars over talking heads just doesn’t seem quite as worthwhile to me somehow. But, I defer to the hosts. Who knows, enough bitching about Chris Matthews and I might take my own advice and turn the puter off.  :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ciao!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>And pushing back against unfair media narratives — of which Matthews is an extreme example — is a lot of what we do here.</p></blockquote>
<p>There’s a ton of really articulate people here. How about we organize a boycott and start contacting all the advertisers who display their wares on Chris Matthews Show? Perhaps they would be interested to know how little consumers think of their chosen programming. I know it’s been mentioned before. But it seems better than kibbitzing with those of us who come to the Lake for the intellectual stimulation. I like the new angles and new insights I get here. Flame wars over talking heads just doesn’t seem quite as worthwhile to me somehow. But, I defer to the hosts. Who knows, enough bitching about Chris Matthews and I might take my own advice and turn the puter off.  :) </p>
<p>Ciao!</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jeebus…what in the hell is in the air today that everyone wants to nitpick shit I didn’t even say?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tell me  about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) I never said you wrote that Edwards was a misogynist.  I never attributed anything to you and not being clairvoyant, have no idea what your thoughts are.  Maybe by “thing” I have problems with,  you thought I meant your post.  I didn’t.  I meant this whole “Hillary emotional incident” (or whatever you want to call it) and the reaction to it and particularly to what Edwards had to say.  I don’t think Edwards comment is nearly the big deal that some - relax, I didn’t say you - have made of it.  But that’s just my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2)  Hard to believe but at this moment, Chris Matthews is more full of shit than he ever was.  On that I think we can agree.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;more 2)&lt;em&gt;I found it a genuine moment with a candidate who was exausted and caught by surprise by a nice question on a tough day.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(That’s an attribution.)&lt;br /&gt;
I agree with that, too.&lt;br /&gt;
And all I’ve been saying is things are gonna get harder before they get easier so she better stop having such “genuine moments.” (But since she did have one ,the male candidates are allowed one each.  Fair?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, I never said or meant to say that &lt;em&gt;you &lt;/em&gt;said Hillary was being given a pass.  I meant “You” plural, as in “you people.”  We gotta change English that way.  I simply said that in any case of “emotional incidents,” (or whatever you -you, you- want to call it) people (not just you) should look at the why for the  “incident” (let’s stick with that).  In your reply you said what you thought about that. You know what? I agreed.  Now,if she’s gonna be our nominee - or hopes to be - she better knock it off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where I am, there’s nothing unusual in the air.  I’m not one to pick nits or misrepresent what people say. Don’t do it. Period. I try to be scrupulous about quoting people word for word in italics.  I believe we had a misunderstanding, for the most part, and actually agree on some stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please relax and take a deep breath if your air is OK.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Jeebus…what in the hell is in the air today that everyone wants to nitpick shit I didn’t even say?</em></p>
<p>Tell me  about it.</p>
<p>1) I never said you wrote that Edwards was a misogynist.  I never attributed anything to you and not being clairvoyant, have no idea what your thoughts are.  Maybe by “thing” I have problems with,  you thought I meant your post.  I didn’t.  I meant this whole “Hillary emotional incident” (or whatever you want to call it) and the reaction to it and particularly to what Edwards had to say.  I don’t think Edwards comment is nearly the big deal that some &#8211; relax, I didn’t say you &#8211; have made of it.  But that’s just my opinion.</p>
<p>2)  Hard to believe but at this moment, Chris Matthews is more full of shit than he ever was.  On that I think we can agree.</p>
<p>more 2)<em>I found it a genuine moment with a candidate who was exausted and caught by surprise by a nice question on a tough day.</em><br />
(That’s an attribution.)<br />
I agree with that, too.<br />
And all I’ve been saying is things are gonna get harder before they get easier so she better stop having such “genuine moments.” (But since she did have one ,the male candidates are allowed one each.  Fair?)</p>
<p>Again, I never said or meant to say that <em>you </em>said Hillary was being given a pass.  I meant “You” plural, as in “you people.”  We gotta change English that way.  I simply said that in any case of “emotional incidents,” (or whatever you -you, you- want to call it) people (not just you) should look at the why for the  “incident” (let’s stick with that).  In your reply you said what you thought about that. You know what? I agreed.  Now,if she’s gonna be our nominee &#8211; or hopes to be &#8211; she better knock it off.</p>
<p>Where I am, there’s nothing unusual in the air.  I’m not one to pick nits or misrepresent what people say. Don’t do it. Period. I try to be scrupulous about quoting people word for word in italics.  I believe we had a misunderstanding, for the most part, and actually agree on some stuff.</p>
<p>Please relax and take a deep breath if your air is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: RayDuray</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayDuray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I’d be careful with the bonbons. How about taking the Peanut for a nice long adventure to a local pond to see what the wildlife are up to? My friend who told me to just turn the damn TV off has a herd of mule deer who come to her house every day for a “free lunch”. She’s had up to 60 bucks, does and fawns at one time. It’s pretty damn cool. They don’t know a thing about Chris Matthews, and you can see it in their angelic eyes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I’d be careful with the bonbons. How about taking the Peanut for a nice long adventure to a local pond to see what the wildlife are up to? My friend who told me to just turn the damn TV off has a herd of mule deer who come to her house every day for a “free lunch”. She’s had up to 60 bucks, does and fawns at one time. It’s pretty damn cool. They don’t know a thing about Chris Matthews, and you can see it in their angelic eyes.</p>
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