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		<title>By: ProfessorFoland</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1194038</link>
		<dc:creator>ProfessorFoland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really, really dislike Melissa Bean.  And I hated this Administration’s handling of the Iranian nuclear program so much that I started my blog solely for that topic.  So believe me it pains me to say this, but: the quoted part from Bean in the post is, technically, accurate.  Iran &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; have a nuclear program (just not a nuclear weapons program), enrichment &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; in defiance of the international community (UNSC 1696;  though there is some question as to whether the resolution is legal, given the NPT protections, there’s no doubt it expresses the will of the international community), and it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a key step in building an atomic weapon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a way, it’s all the worse that it’s accurate, because you can only come up with something that technically-accurate-but-generally-misleading if you’re really, really trying to get away with something.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, really dislike Melissa Bean.  And I hated this Administration’s handling of the Iranian nuclear program so much that I started my blog solely for that topic.  So believe me it pains me to say this, but: the quoted part from Bean in the post is, technically, accurate.  Iran <em>does</em> have a nuclear program (just not a nuclear weapons program), enrichment <em>is</em> in defiance of the international community (UNSC 1696;  though there is some question as to whether the resolution is legal, given the NPT protections, there’s no doubt it expresses the will of the international community), and it <em>is</em> a key step in building an atomic weapon.</p>
<p>In a way, it’s all the worse that it’s accurate, because you can only come up with something that technically-accurate-but-generally-misleading if you’re really, really trying to get away with something.</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193942</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know it’s not an answer to your question, but I did a short blog on DU &lt;a href=&quot;http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/4961&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it’s not an answer to your question, but I did a short blog on DU <a href="http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/4961" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193930</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He was not the least bit scared to be killed in nasty ways.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you know that on 9/11…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know, I think that’s one of the things I can least forgive him for. That he turned a day of other peoples’ tragedies - tragedies he made worse - into something not much above a punchline.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was not the least bit scared to be killed in nasty ways.</p>
<p>Did you know that on 9/11…</p>
<p>You know, I think that’s one of the things I can least forgive him for. That he turned a day of other peoples’ tragedies &#8211; tragedies he made worse &#8211; into something not much above a punchline.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193927</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; In response to  rwcole @ 71&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Bush inhaled nose candy but doesn’t anymore (heh heh) but has knowledge of nose candy, we should arrest him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More life imitating art (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Minority Report&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Soon, Uncle Sam will be able to arrest you for &lt;em&gt;bad thoughts&lt;/em&gt;, and render you to a black hole in some third world county to make sure that you’re not a &lt;em&gt;terrorist&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> In response to  rwcole @ 71</p>
<p>If Bush inhaled nose candy but doesn’t anymore (heh heh) but has knowledge of nose candy, we should arrest him.</p>
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<p>More life imitating art (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)" rel="nofollow">Minority Report</a>).</p>
<p>Soon, Uncle Sam will be able to arrest you for <em>bad thoughts</em>, and render you to a black hole in some third world county to make sure that you’re not a <em>terrorist</em>.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193924</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But of course, since Rudy is a manly man, then no one can ever quesiton his manliness for running from this threat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But of course, since Rudy is a manly man, then no one can ever quesiton his manliness for running from this threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fyi, the Giuliani “threat” was “&lt;a href=&quot;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/09/565297.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;non-credible and non-specific&lt;/a&gt;“&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi, the Giuliani “threat” was “<a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/09/565297.aspx" rel="nofollow">non-credible and non-specific</a>“</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193913</link>
		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, it also looks phony when we assist India, chide Pakistan and then threaten to obliterate Iran for the same or lesser infractions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it also looks phony when we assist India, chide Pakistan and then threaten to obliterate Iran for the same or lesser infractions.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193910</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah…forget Mr. Bean’s Holiday…but Blackadder’s Christmas’s Carol is not to be missed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah…forget Mr. Bean’s Holiday…but Blackadder’s Christmas’s Carol is not to be missed.</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/09/is-there-anybody-in-there/#comment-1193911</link>
		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yahoo reports the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_soldiers_killed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Looks like a booby trapped house killed 6 today.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-G&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo reports the same.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_soldiers_killed" rel="nofollow">Looks like a booby trapped house killed 6 today.</a></p>
<p>-G</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
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		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT:&lt;br /&gt;
On finance. Also on folks like Fox and what a country is to do when mutli-nationals can do things like have Fox “test” USA security by trying to smuggle a dirty bomb in a port or Times Square.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From RGE mon:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/236463#readcomments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog.....adcomments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@ alexcanuck &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Index composition and methodology are proprietary to those who compile and publish the index.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the Wikipedia on weighting of stock indexes. All the terms are defined in the wiki through links if you click through: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“An index may also be classified according to the method used to determine its price. In a Price-weighted index such as the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the NYSE ARCA Tech 100 Index, the price of each component stock is the only consideration when determining the value of the index. Thus, price movement of even a single security will heavily influence the value of the index even though the dollar shift is less significant in a relatively highly valued issue, and moreover ignoring the relative size of the company as a whole. In contrast, a market-value weighted or capitalization-weighted index such as the Hang Seng Index factors in the size of the company. Thus, a relatively small shift in the price of a large company will heavily influence the value of the index. In a market-share weighted index, price is weighted relative to the number of shares, rather than their total value. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Traditionally, capitalization- or share-weighted indexes all had a full weighting i.e. all outstanding shares were included. Recently, many of them have changed to a float-adjusted weighting which helps indexing.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It has occurred to me, perhaps unjustly, that one reason why Murdoch might want to own the Wall Street Journal is so that he could do to the Dow Jones indexes what he has done to news at FOX - distort reality to bend perception to his masters’ political advantage. Because the methodologies are proprietary, he could massively distort public perceptions by changing the methodology. As so many derivatives are based on the indices, there may be huge amounts of money at stake, making manipulation very tempting for someone with the power and inclination to do great evil.&lt;br /&gt;
Written by London Banker on 2008-01-09 09:50:59&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;London Banker: thanks for your thoughtful comments here. You set a standard for deep and intelligent commentary on this blog. Best Nouriel&lt;br /&gt;
Written by Nouriel on 2008-01-09 10:07:31&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT:<br />
On finance. Also on folks like Fox and what a country is to do when mutli-nationals can do things like have Fox “test” USA security by trying to smuggle a dirty bomb in a port or Times Square.</p>
<p>From RGE mon:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/236463#readcomments" rel="nofollow">http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog&#8230;..adcomments</a></p>
<p>@ alexcanuck </p>
<p>Index composition and methodology are proprietary to those who compile and publish the index.  </p>
<p>From the Wikipedia on weighting of stock indexes. All the terms are defined in the wiki through links if you click through: </p>
<p>“An index may also be classified according to the method used to determine its price. In a Price-weighted index such as the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the NYSE ARCA Tech 100 Index, the price of each component stock is the only consideration when determining the value of the index. Thus, price movement of even a single security will heavily influence the value of the index even though the dollar shift is less significant in a relatively highly valued issue, and moreover ignoring the relative size of the company as a whole. In contrast, a market-value weighted or capitalization-weighted index such as the Hang Seng Index factors in the size of the company. Thus, a relatively small shift in the price of a large company will heavily influence the value of the index. In a market-share weighted index, price is weighted relative to the number of shares, rather than their total value. </p>
<p>Traditionally, capitalization- or share-weighted indexes all had a full weighting i.e. all outstanding shares were included. Recently, many of them have changed to a float-adjusted weighting which helps indexing.” </p>
<p>It has occurred to me, perhaps unjustly, that one reason why Murdoch might want to own the Wall Street Journal is so that he could do to the Dow Jones indexes what he has done to news at FOX &#8211; distort reality to bend perception to his masters’ political advantage. Because the methodologies are proprietary, he could massively distort public perceptions by changing the methodology. As so many derivatives are based on the indices, there may be huge amounts of money at stake, making manipulation very tempting for someone with the power and inclination to do great evil.<br />
Written by London Banker on 2008-01-09 09:50:59</p>
<p>London Banker: thanks for your thoughtful comments here. You set a standard for deep and intelligent commentary on this blog. Best Nouriel<br />
Written by Nouriel on 2008-01-09 10:07:31</p>
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