I understand everybody has their opinion and there are differences. I hope we can stick to civil discussion and remember we’re all working to find the best candidate to be president to fulfill OUR needs and desires. At least now, this far into the campaign, they have all gravitated towards certain issues which the voters have told them are important. Actually, even the Republicans are talking about those same issues too. That’s a great starting point. We agree on direction, if not details of how to get there.

Let’s work through our differences and succeed together!

My view of the candidates, as of today:

I like Edwards and support him. His people-first view is very appealing to me. His trial lawyer experience shows his commitment to fighting corporate power and abuses and it shows he’s a high achiever.

I respect Hillary, but differ on some issues and on her support from corpocracy. She is definitely working it from the inside and, like Bill, trying to make progress where it’s possible. I admire her determination and patience for the slow grind.

Obama was entirely new to me with this campaign. I’ve been thinking he’s too green, makes mistakes and is somewhat vague. But, since his win in Iowa his campaign has shown itself to be very unappealing. I also read some of Paul Street’s article and didn’t like what I saw. Now what I’m seeing is someone who is opportunistic, not creative and definitely not a leader. I think it may be a result of how he learned in school and then taught Constitutional law. He’s a book guy at best.

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html

I have worked with and have known several people who use tears as a mere tool to get what they want or to get out of taking responsibility for mistakes.

Ultimate point being that the world is too dynamic for a tiny filter like the tear or no tear model you have offered.

More respect more kindness.

Would rather have a bleeding heart than no heart at all.

with respect and kindness.

“As a result of this…Edwards is now dead to me.”

Can we get your personal signature on that? :o)

I mean, with Hillary Clinton backing the flag-burning bill and the Kyl-Lieberman amendmant, and just generally sucking up to the rightwing, and with your defending her without ever responding to the specific facts about such things as her support for Liebermen in the Connecticut primary, and her attendance at the FoxNews birthday bash, and her schmoozing with Rupert Murdoch, I doubt if any of the Edwards supporters on here are exactly shitting their pants about you pulling your “support” for him.

:o)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir1UABBe1v4

Boehner gets to blubber on the floor of the House because (1) his constituents believe his brand of bullshit and (2) he already has the job. Hillary doesn’t get to blubber because the constituency she’s addressing is 300,000,000 strong and she doesn’t already have the job.

Boehner looked and sounded drunk the time he blubbered about the 3,000 Americans killed on September 11th. I can’t imagine the reaction to Hillary showing the effects of liquor at any time or on any occasion. If it ever happened, she would be called a lush and a fallen woman, etc. Was Boehner really drunk while addressing the House of Representatives? It certainly looked that way to me.

but decisions in the white house should NOT be made emotionally. bush and the right wing have fed off emotion to justify a war on islam, so the public can feel good that “we” are getting back at the bastards who attacked us, whether or not it’s actually true or not.

there is a double standard because of the subtext of the stereotype that the media perpetuates about a woman being emotional, but that doesn’t mean that everyone who says something about hillary is sexist.

if guliani or romney or anyone else teared up about the grueling campaign, boo fucking hoo, who the fuck cares? hillary tears up about the campaign, boo fucking hoo again, who cares? they can cry about whatever they feel like. but does is affect my opinion of them? let them shed some of their alligator tears on the dead from this war, or the uninsured, or the uneducated, or katrina… or any of the multiple things that they perpetuated or stood idly by (that’s a general statement, i’m not saying that hillary had anything to do with katrina debacle etc)