MATTHEWS: It’s great stuff. I’ll send it to you — it’s great — yeah it’s great stuff. Hillary, John Kerry. All these guys, all these democrats, and how they do. And, uh, Frank Luntz did it…

I should also add that it might be irrelevant because Luntz is a hard-core Republican whose work is suspect.

MATTHEWS: Have you seen this new focus group stuff on the candidates?

DELAY: No I haven’t

MATTHEWS: It’s great stuff. I’ll send it to you — it’s great — yeah it’s great stuff. Hillary, John Kerry. All these guys, all these democrats, and how they do. And, uh, Frank Luntz did it…

DELAY: who I like

CM: …and Hillary did not do well. Kerry did well.

DELAY: You’re kidding.

MATTHEWS: I am NOT kidding. They didn’t like Edwards — they thought he was a rich lawyer, pretending to care about poor people…

DELAY: Too slick. Too slick.

MATTHEWS: …and Hillary was a know-it-all.

DELAY: Nothing worse than a woman know-it-all

These characterizations are largely still true except we have Obama playing the role of Kerry “reporting for duty” and Obama was picked by Kerry for the role!

But, I really didn’t care for Kerry and I really don’t like Obama, so …

Was the focus group bipartisan or only Dems? Or, did it include some independents too?

What is the objective opinion on the Edwards speech?

I liked it pretty well. It didn’t have that rambling feeling some of his speech has.

It was shorter and wasn’t cut off by the press who had to move on to something more important like the local dog that got run over by a street sweeper.

It was very well constructed, perhaps his best in that sense.

It did what was needed for the occasion.

Still, after looking at the polls It seems the important thing for Edwards now is to find a way to convince people they can trust him and do it pretty quick. If Obama can sell snake-oil, then Edwards should be able to do some of that too.

I suppose I should mention that like someone else here on the lake I would like to hear more variety and off-the-cuff speaking. Edwards is quite good at that and it would sound a lot more natural — perhaps more Q&As with the public, rather than speeches.

I’m a feminist woman, and I’m starting to realize that I really don’t want to have to vote for Hillary for President.

Were you a Hillary supporter before?

Do you think other Hillary supporters might move to Edwards if Hill has to withdraw?

It would be really helpful to know their thoughts on this possibility.

No candidate who voted to authorize the war in Iraq will get my vote. For whom should I vote?

That probably leaves you with Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico since he wasn’t in Congress at that time.

But, really, you should pick among Clinton, Obama or Edwards. They’re the only ones who really have any chance of getting the nomination among Dems.

Edwards voted for the Authorization, but later apologized (saying it was a very tough call and he trusted Bush) and says we must leave Iraq within the first year of his term.

Clinton voted for the Authorization and didn’t apologize, but now says we must leave Iraq ‘responsibly’.

Obama wasn’t in the senate and therefore didn’t vote on the Authorization resolution, but he has voted to reauthorize it and provide funding. He too says we must leave Iraq.

Obama – my heavens, that man is an orator.

His folks have been saying recently that he’s almost the second coming of Lincoln, John Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.

Of course, those guys did stuff too.

I prefer Edwards, but I’m glad to see HRC kick some MSM ass.

My sentiments exactly. I could only add that it is nice to see Obamomentum slowed to bring the race back close to even, so they can continue the fight without any spectre of election fraud from either Iowa or NH.

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Would you like to see a post about Hillary voting for the flagburning amdendment, just like the rest of the peckerhead foilhats? Or, maybe you support that? Can you show us some of YOUR shit? :o)

Would you like to talk about her sucking up to FoxNews by attending their 10th anniversary birthday bash? (that would be the very same FoxNews that tore she and her family a new asshole for 8 years, and really, has nnever stopped.)

Would you like to talk about the money that AIPAC has sent her?

How about her support for the surge that packed another 30K of our troops into the meatgrinder that she helped bush gin up, and for which she’s never apologized?

Would you like me to show you my shit about Joe Lieberman, and her support for him in the Conn. primary, and then, her support for his and Kyle’s amendment to give george bush a leg up in starting clusterfuck #2?

That shit? :o)

Just let me know. I’m at your service.

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